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Twilight is being stupid she is not winning any favors by denying that the ponies reacted by attacking civilians and police for no reason.
the ponies have a very racist mind set. twilight isnt really a princess of friendship. All the relationships with other species were started by others.
Spike has done more for frienship than her.
And someone is already pregnant. I'm not surprised at all. Will we get... a siren? A mermaid? So many questions
ok what Cadance just did that PONY NEED TO DIE THAT IF FUCKING mind control NUKE THE FUCKERS NUKE Cadance IS A FUCKING MONSTER KILL HER WITH FIRE
killing someone is one thing but taking there free will away is a crime i can not permit SHE HAS TO DIE
FUCKING PRINCESS OF LOVE MY ASS PRINCESS OF FUCKING MIND CONTROLLING MONSTERS
I had a hard time figuring out what was going on in the last part, who was pregnant human, hippogriff or seapony
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Did you forget Mobile Coral, the first seapony to meet the humans?
Communication and "Communication".
wink wink nudge nudge
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Yes
That last bit at the end....didn't see it coming! Xd what a twist! Lol
Diplomacy seems to be in progress, but I cant help but recall that twilight doesint know about the airstrike that killed nearly 2000 ponies, I wonder how she'll react to that.
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WHOA! WHOA! CALM DOWN DUDE!
I dont agree with what she did either but it was stated by her that that love spell was only temporary. True that remark she said about him not leaving the same is concerning at first, but it could be for a different reason. Perhaps during the love induced spell, the soldier had a chance to interact with the mare, getting to kinda knowing her. So when the love spell wore off he wouldnt be able to bring himself to harm her?
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Is anyone the same after kissing a horse?
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...........or it could be that.
Xp
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regardless of reasons taking someones free will away is a fucking monstrous act. free will is the only thing we have a humans the right to choose how we live how we die free will is fucking sacred to take that away for any reason is a act of a monster i'm the person and said destroying the crystal city is a valid tactical decision because it will stop there advance north by destroying supply lines but when you take free will from someone it's worse that killing them is taking who they are away is a act of a monster and MONSTERS NEED TO DIE that bitch stole that humans free will no mater have temporary or beneficial it may be, free will and them mind are not for other to act upon Taking away what makes us human our mind and our free will is irredeemable a crime so abhorrent that nuking that bitch is a valid option in my mind
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You have a point, and I agree with some of it. taking away someones free will is the second worst thing I can imagine. The only thing worse is destroying someones very soul, denying good people from ever reaching heaven or a chance at new life, thier very being...gone, forever. just thinking about it sends me into a loathing rage.
Didn't the Alicorn of Love have any other way to reduce a single human soldier and save his would-be-victim, than to force them to rape eachother?
Sure, Cadence may have no reason to care for the dignity of an enemy, but to abuse her own subject in such a way...
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I think she would stop them if it came close to that point. If not....then cadance will have really pissed me off.
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Yeah, I get it, you have a religious objection to mind control. Murdering someone for your religious beliefs is generally frowned upon nowadays though.
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i'm a atheist so to me the mind and free will is the most important in my mind. now the only option left for cadence is death she must die that the only way to stop her from doing this again and the only way to see justice done. as i said death is preferable to taking away free will so in my mind even that will not absolve her but is a fucking good start that bitch must die !
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i'm not religious fucking with peoples mind is WRONG killing people for religious is wrong to, but fucking with there minds is far worse that killing them
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I'll respect your beliefs dude if you'll respect mine.
What she did was wrong, I'll leave it at that.
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agreed what she did was wrong
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Also, when she says "we forgive you", does she speak for the yaks too?
Ah, the classic blind eye reading the newest counteracting orders trick.
Pity Mobile wasnt a full seapony. It would be easy then to find the father. He would be the pregnant one.
Hippogriff/Seapony/Human cross. Depends which bit? Equine, Feline, or Equine Avian, could give a centaur or Abyssinian or Sphinx?
Id have thought that mind control is hated the same reason that raising the dead is. Intense dislike of the enemy making use of the resources and equipment youve spent your whole life taking care of. Why should they have it if you cant. If you cant be immortal, noone else gets to live, and so on.
Good thing the militery dont like actually working on stuff. theyre 20 years behind where they could be due to the psychology of computer use and coding. We should have Watson on a phone by now, given the recent Pi trick, but that would mean your phone would be smarter than you, there would be ten times the smart AI than global human population, and because they would be able to explain why they were suggesting the solutions needed due to having to do so by law, everyone would absolutely dispise them, demanding the right to stick their own head in the blender.
If Im right, AI can be optimised at least another thousand fold, which means a simple software update to existing phones would make them smarter than Da Vinci.
Now, if you excuse me, I want to try and find out what the last 20 years advances have given me as an increase in extending the range of mind reading robots, given advertisers have already announced they want to use focused ultrasonic beams to inject memetic manipulating adverts directly into your ears as you pass by, and magnetic induction headsets used to change how you feel and think in games.
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Remember that Equestria has a very different view on mind magic than most humans would have. The incidents with Twilight and Starlight in Lesson Zero and Every Little Thing She Does, while considered wrong, were brushed off with nothing more than an apology, and Cadance reinforcing the love of the arguing couple in Canterlot Wedding or Luna poking into people's dreams are skills considered admirable.
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dose not change the fact that to me as a human its the worse thing you can do to a human and if anyone learns of this back in the U.S that outrage will be so grate that equestria will be destroyed out right I'm not a religious man and that my opinion on the topic think about the religious people will do cadence has committed a crime again humanity and need to be punished for it she NEEDS TO DIE FOR HER ACT what she did if fundamentally wrong to me and i think a lot of humans would agree
btw as far i can tell luna dose not change anything in the mind or remove free will
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Yet by that logic, the human was about to murder a mare. Does that mean that he deserves death? And are you going to kill Twilight, Starlight and Luna too? Because if you do, congratulations for destroying the world.
You keep applying your interpretation as the law, and ignoring for a moment that you don't speak for all humans... remember that the human in question was in Equestria.
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i can not judge what ponys do to ponys that celestia and luna and job but. when a ponys dose it to a human yes i have a an opinion. Twilight, Starlight and Luna did nothing to human minds and yes he's a soldier on foreign soil inside a weapons plant yes kill him would be fine fucking with his mind nope that is to fucking far
bwt is i dont know why i have to say this but this is all my Opinion not all humans the fact i have to say this seams strange given I'm saying this not all humans but o well
I hate to say it, but from a human standpoint... Cadence just... roofied someone. That's sexual assault right there.
Wow. Forcing rape on an enemy AND your own subject? Cadance just went from the most sympathetic and relatable princess to the lowest of the scum. I hope she gets punished for what she did, preferably in a factory explosion.
On a bright note, I really liked the trader pony and would want to see more of her. While "peaceful" princesses are busy stealing weapons and killing innocents, someone actually tries to start relationships between the two nations. Twilight is the worst negotiator ever, so it doesn't count.
Cadences actions is nothing short of manipulative,
Mind controll such as this should be given the highest offense.
As such, with morals such as mine.
Cadence should be sentenced..
With the death penalty for the invasion of ones mind.
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And again, this human was in Equestria. You can't put species barriers on customs and laws, nor can you expect an entire culture to bend over backwards to satisfy your opinions on their culture, so if you're in Equestria you really just have to deal with the reality that mind magic is an accepted thing there.
And let's not forget: This guy was about to murder that mare, who in no way was confirmed military personnel, just because she spotted him. Are we going to just sweep that under the carpet? After giving Equestria so much flak for killing civilians?
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replying to my own comment. Given the amount of people this particular plot point has gotten, I have to commend the author on their work, and the emotion they were able to evoke in all of us. Even if that emotion comes out to "get the noose ready"
Keep up the good work.
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a civilians fueling the war effort in factory are valid targets in war im the guy who said burning a city is an ok strategy do you rly think one civ is WORKING ON GUNS TO KILL PEOPLE is not a valid target?
and yes he may be in equestria but that dose not change the fact of what they did to remove free will is the worse action one can take against a human in my opinion i dont care who what or where they are doing so is asking TO DIE as i have said like 6 time killing in war/confict if fine but mind fucking NO THAT GOES TO FAR
this is a very circular argument i think mind fucking a human is wrong
you say that have different rules
i say i dont care they need to die
you say that i need to think about different rules
i still dont care she needs to fucking die
repeat
this is going know-were
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agreed i just hope he dose something to address this point or this will not go well
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No, I don't consider a factory worker to be a military target. By the same logic that cops aren't valid military targets either. And it's not just me, the geneva convention doesn't consider factory personnel to be direct military targets either, to the point where trying to abuse this by keeping your factories staffed for the explicit purpose of trying to avoid getting said factories bombarded is considered a war crime instead. This is one of the reasons why a lot of strikes against facilities in modern conflicts tend to take place at night, to minimize the chance of civilian casualties.
You say Cadance should die. Does that mean your word is the law? If not, saying she should die... is rather pointless, since what she did is not a crime by Equestrian standards. Where it took place. To prevent this guy from murdering a civilian.
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factory are valid targets with or without people in them there is such a thing a accessible civilian loses look it up and IV SAID THIS LIKE 8 TIMES THIS IS MY OPINION IN MY OPINION SHE NEED TO DIE FOR HER CRIME WHEN ON Earth did i say my work is the LAW story putting words in my mouth a just accepts your favorite princess is a monster that need to be kill for the crime of MIND RAPE
last thing people can be held accountable for action not illegal in there nation how do you think we prosecuted the Nazi after ww2 they had committed no crimes in there nation we still hung them like the monsters they where
look up the nuremberg trials
How did some random trooper get clear to the crystal empire? That's not a short walk, and I can't imagine he got a vehicle through wilderness and ponish lines. With a sack full of explosives no less? They don't just hand those out, much less ignore someone going AWOL with them. I'm fairly sure that there is a lot of shouting going on somewhere back in Alaska.
Come to think of it, considering that they've never actually talked to any humans, there's a fundamental language barrier here... Though of course, lust finds a way.
Well in any case, here's an accusation of sexual assault coming at Candace, just to muddy the diplomatic waters... Doesn't she know anything about handling yourself in foreign matters? The quickest way to get yourself in killing trouble is over religion, or women. Alright, in this case men, but the point remains.
Well as it turns out, humanity seems to have picked up the Omni-fertility perk, so Candace had better not let this get too far (though she's gone quite far enough already) or else that couple is going to end up with a child. One wonders what that results in, a human or a pony? Some form of demi-human, like a satyr? Or just the usual "anthro" or pony-colored human à la EQG?
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Factories, yes. The people in them, less so. Cops are more valid targets than factory personnel by geneva standards (providing they're actively participating in the conflict).
You're still saying it's a crime though. When it... really isn't. Especially not if you want to get technical with the law, given that we have no laws regarding magically making two people fall in love.
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I think that's less humanity with the omni-fertility perk and more Equestria. "Everyone is compatible with everyone" is the kind of super harmony thing you'd expect from Equestria. Hippogrifs and griffons had to start somewhere, after all.
Biologists are going to be running and screaming in frustration over this for years.
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we did not have laws regarding genocide ether before the nuremberg trials yet people still got hung for it there was International Criminal Law untill affter ww2 people still got hung
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Ah, but the thing is, she didn't expect anything of the sort to happen.
Wait... no, that disproves my own point. Sod it...
Well alright then,
Magic
"who even knows anymore"?
Well we will now!
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The laws regarding such things were agreed by almost every nation though, including Germany. This... isn't going to be as likely in Equestria, unless America conquers the world and starts rewriting laws everywhere and force every nation to agree.
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do you really thing the rest of equis is ok with mind-controlled ...
you seam this think that equestria is the only nation on that planet and if the pony of equestria learn of this they might also have a problem with it
lets w8 and see what happens
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i also thing there are Most likely laws in equestria about this due to king sombra and chrysalis both using mind control fucking hell cadence is acting like fucking sombra and chrysalis here
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That is something which bothers me too. Did they pick Solid Snake's clone for the job?
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Have we seen any indication that the other nations are dead-set against mind magic? The judgement of use of magic in general seems to be very much themed towards what was intended with it rather than what it did. And Equestrian argument for Cadance's use of magic is that instead of blindly killing an attacker, she saved a mare from being killed and prevented an unknown number of further deaths in the destruction of the factory by taking the attacker's aggression and letting love in his heart instead.
And this is a common theme for many of the events we've seen. Let's take the very first episode of MLP, where Twilight and the girls purged Nightmare Moon from her jealousy and hatred, returning her to Princess Luna. That's the same kind of 'brainwashing.' Do we kill the mane 6 as well? Or when Twilight and the humane 5 used their powers on Sunset Shimmer for much the same reason. Do we kill Twilight twice now? Heck, we could even argue that Starlight convincing the changelings to share love instead of keeping it, which radically altered both their bodies and mindsets, is some sort of mind control. Every event where magic 'redeemed' someone can, superficially, be argued to be mind control. And yet these events are considered heroic instead, because intent matters.
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back to the start go look when i said that the laws in equestria and not anything to do with me and to be honest no the main 6 how no idea what they would do Celestia is at fault for that one
and sunset again they had know idea what they were doing again
and look at that was said SHE FORCED HIM TO HAVE ROMANTIC FELLING FOR SOMEONE FORCED
INVADED THE MIND OF A HUMAN AND MADE THEM FEEL LOVE THAT IS nothing like anything you have said you dont go from killing someone to loving them in less then a second without magic fuckery
she this fucking bitch is worse theb sombra at least he knew he was evil this bitch thinks its for the "GRATER GOOD"
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And the mane 6 forced Luna and Sunset to lose their hatred and jealousy, and act that changed them into rather drastically different ponies. I'm not arguing that manipulation of the mind didn't take place, I'm arguing going "rawr! evul! must kill!" is short sighted, will result in the deaths of almost every -if not all- the primary characters of MLP (including the CMC, remember the love potion?) and ignores the context and intent of the act.
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you look at this will all that knowledge of that this is normal in equestrian but to humans with know knowledge of this its going to be hell to pay
and yes fucking with the mind of anyone with wrong in my eye every time its used in the show i hate it more and more but i cant change that but to use it on a human and to fucking rape a human yes rape! is wrong kill that bitch with fire she is a monster here her power normal is not used like this in the show the only time it was used that iv seen was on 2 pony that where is love and having an argument i dont know it she brainwashed them never to fight again is if so kill the bitch for that one 2 but i dont think that is the case mind control for me is wrong regrades of who uses it for what can we at least agree what making someone rape another is wrong here can we go back to how this started and say what she did was wrong all she really had to do was knock him out problem solved nope rape is the answer and yes this is rape she fucking ruffied him
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Now see, stuff like this is why xenology is such a nuanced field. One species' cheerful greeting is another's deadly insult. One should never assume, and now, because Candace has, there will be consequences. Certainly, the reaction to this is going to be far more volatile than she expects. We can at least agree that she did not intend such a fundamental trespass, culturally speaking? I believe that when his perspective is finally communicated to her, she will be as appalled as we are.
Though we must remember that there were two parties involved here, that poor mare has just as much of a say in this as trooper What's-His-Name.
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I don't think they're going to listen.
Honestly I'm reminded too much of an old pony author who wrote a lot of TCB fics. She was on record for out and out saying "Celestia and Luna are gods, and ponies are a higher form of life than humans, therefore anything done to humans is perfectly acceptable". This argument seems, honestly, comparable to that.
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"They may not think like us."
"They are gods beyond all reproach."
These two statements are the same to you?