174 - First Day of Class
Silver strode through the streets of Canterlot with a smile. Perhaps everything would work out just fine. To have Fast returned, to break no hearts managing it... They were both at royal tier, so that shouldn't be an issue. No obvious issues stood in the way of a happy ending there, save for Samantha finding her to be 'compatible', but Silver doubted Fast's charm would fail on Samantha.
Everything was looking up.
He stepped up to his flight school and glanced up at the sign before he reached for the door with his magic only to let it fizzle. He was a pegasus here. He reached with a hoof instead and nudged it open, slipping inside. "Good morning."
The pegasus mare was at the counter, Dawn, not his instructor. "I was hoping you'd either show up early or not at all. Have a moment?"
"Sure, where's Air?" Silver tilted his head a little.
"With another class." She rose to her hooves, then launched herself at him like a rocket, landing hooves-first into his chest and knocking him to the ground. "Let's make this quick and easy. You're too big."
Silver rolled upright, frowning at the sudden attack. "Too big to fly? I respectfully disagree."
"Not that." Dawn rolled her eyes. "This school specializes in young ponies and country ponies that know how to fly right but need refreshers on city etiquette. You are neither of those." She pointed at his wings. "When did you get those?"
Such a pointed question. "Recently."
"But you can fly with them, but your form is entirely wrong. You're a mess." She scowled. "Trying to work that out of you would be a full-time position, but here's the thing, we teach entire classes. Do you think it's fair that Air's focusing on you while the other students watch and do nothing, or would you rather not get what you want while the rest of the class progresses?" She rolled a hoof. "It's one or the other."
"But..."
"And don't give me lip about your royal status. I don't care how rich or poor you are, you're just not a good fit for this class. You need a private tutor, period." Dawn tapped at the ground as her wings fitfully twitched. "Look, I can see you're serious, but so am I. Go and get a private teacher. You'll learn faster and you won't be messing up a class in the process."
Mares of Equestria had a habit of setting him right in his place. Silver let out a slow breath. "Do you have any teachers in mind?"
Dawn smiled. "You're listening then? Good. I thought you were really a noble and you'd insist on it no matter how loudly I complained." She walked back to the counter. "As it turns, yes. We keep contact with a few really good instructors for just such emergencies. It's beyond me why Air thought he could just squeeze you in." She settled behind the counter and drew out a book. "I'll send him up to you. You just go home."
Silver blinked. "But you don't know where I live?"
Dawn raised a brow. "Silver Lining, ambassador to the humans?"
"Watch, Silver Watch, but yes, that's me."
She waved it off. "Look... You don't remember me, but I remember you. You helped out during the Tirek attack... Congratulations on the wings, but this isn't the right place." Dawn gave a bittersweet smile as she sat up. "I'll send him over. He's a good flyer and a good pony in general. He'll get you soaring like a natural, promise. Come back when you're flying straight and I'll be happy to see it, just not right now, alright?"
Silver gave a single firm nod. "Alright. I'll wait for him." He turned for the door. "Sorry for all the trouble. Tell Air I said thank you for trying."
She waved him off, and soon he was outside.
"I say, are you planning for your foals?" It was a familiar stallion, Fancy Pants. "Hmm, but they aren't pegasi, are they? I admit, I've gone and forgotten, quite poor of me."
Silver smiled at him. "Fancy, it's great to see you. How have things been?"
"Quite good, ole chap. Nice to see you as well." He offered a hoof and they touched and shook up and down rather than the straight forward clop that other ponies might do. "What brings you here?"
Silver flicked his horn back at the school. "I was going to get lessons, but they're not suited for me here. They're sending a teacher over for me."
Fancy raised a brow at the school, then at Silver's wings. "I do say... It's about time we had a prince that took the title as seriously as our princesses."
Silver darkened with a fierce blush. "I'll do my best." He glanced left and right. "Does it bother you that I'm not, you know, born a pony?"
He hiked a brow at Silver. "Not a pony? You were a foal when I met you, not even able to use that horn on your head yet, but you studied hard. Not to say you didn't have your stumbles, but who doesn't really?" He adjusted his monocle lightly. "You take life seriously, and those around you, under and above you. Is somepony giving you trouble? They shan't be invited to my next social, hmmph." He produced a card in his magic and floated it over to Silver, an invitation to a fancy gathering at the races.
Silver smiled at the confidence and support. "I... guess it was just me..."
Fancy pointed at Silver. "There you go again, worried about what others think about you. You really should focus more on being who you are, and less about what others think of it. Be that as it may, welcome to royalty, good chap. I imagine they haven't assigned you a domain yet. It took many years for Cadance, though significantly less for Princess Twilight. Hmm... Is it true, did you start creating spells? I hear that's a rare talent."
Right up there with his escort into princedom, Star Swirl. Silver smirked a little, thinking of his awkward ascension. "I have, and still do, when the inspiration strikes. I like magic."
"But it doesn't define you, just like Princess Twilight. She likes magic quite a bit, I'm told, but here she is, Princess of Friendship of all things." He leaned closer. "I understand if this a personal question, but the grapevine says you're busy trying to bring back the herd. Bold move, I dare say. I can barely keep up with one."
Silver colored at that. "They keep me busy, for sure." His ears perked with a thought. "What do you think of a noble family trying to squeeze into things?"
A frown creased his face. "That does sound unfortunately likely. Have you met a few gold-diggers hoping to score quick prestige and influence in such a distasteful way?"
"Well, yes." Silver rolled a hoof. "But the one that did it, I don't blame her. She's being pressured by her parents and it's a bit of a mess." He snorted softly. "I want to get her off the hook without getting her in trouble with her relations. Any advice?"
"That's quite a tricky situation you have there." Fancy tapped his chin with a hoof slowly. "This may be beyond your reach, old boy. So long as you and she understand the situation, it's done. Simply back away. Let's put such heavy topics aside. You've grown into a fine stallion and we really haven't had the chance to catch up." He pointed at the card floating in air. "Please, come. I feel like you're practically an adopted foal of mine, and I'd love to spend some time. You can meet some friends of mine, and I get the impression you'd like to put a good hoof forward with the movers and shakers of Canterlot."
Silver tucked the card away in a pocket. "I'll be there, promise." He felt happy to run into Fancy. "You were one of the first nice ponies we ran into after coming to Canterlot."
"I do recall that. You and your mother, Missus Lulamoon." He raised a brow. "Still beyond me why she refuses to accept that. She's raised a fine young colt into a great stallion. She should be proud. Does she fear she'll be looked down on for taking an earth pony for a husband? Nothing wrong with that, I say. We have to follow our hearts in the end, so long as we're proper about it."
They shared a final parting hoof-shake and went their separate ways. What lingering funk there was about not getting his first flying lesson that day was blunted with positive tidings. "Maybe I am worrying about nothing..." He stepped up towards the castle and the guards saluted at him. "Good day both of you. Any messages for me?"
"None that we've seen, Your-- sir."
Silver perked an ear, figuring what was almost said, if aborted. "Allow me to ask, what do you think? Would I make a good prince?"
The guards shared a glance and looked back at Silver, seeming nervous. "Permission to speak freely?"
"Please." Silver nodded. "Anything you say won't be held against you, I swear."
The first guard cleared his throat. "It's a bit odd that a convert would rise as far as you have, but I don't think anyone in the guard doubts your intentions, sir."
Silver smiled slowly. "Good, and I hope you will tell me if I err from the right path. I'm not looking for mindless servants."
The other guard pointed at Silver. "We'll do what we can, sir, but you're the one that has to make decisions, in the end."
Silver mulled over that a moment. "I'll do my best to make good ones. I like Equestria. I want to see it, and everyone in it, do well."
The first guard cracked a little smile. "That's all we ask, sir."
Silver trotted past the guards to see the flash of a pony going around the corner with a flick of the tail that felt oddly inviting. It was the wrong color for Carrot Plate. Who was giving him come hither motions in such a subtle, yet bold, way? He took slow steps towards the mystery even as he ran through defensive spells, just in case.
He turned the corner just to see the back end of the pony slipping into a room. She must have been guiding him along. There was no way she took exactly the right amount of time for him to follow her. With a frown, he let his magic loose, feeling at the walls and art as he primed his telekinetic senses. He would uncover that mystery...
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My, what a 'high class' joke.
Watch out Silver, it's a spy leading you on! Either that or another ham-fisted attempt at an up and coming family trying to sneak into his herd.
I wonder if he'll be the Prince of Fertility? Heh heh. Got a herd already, just need to start making foals.
7229750
For that matter, he's already started making foals.
Silver really needs to work on those mass spectograph, molecular translation, and slow glass spells, so he can detect, slow and deal with materials that are not healthy for his constitution. An easy way to tell if they were working would be Samantha having a much harder time treating him to a good time. Just hope he never tells her about Ebeneezer Goode.
Lets see, who can we get in to train Silver, an Alicorn, about flying, and needs spell traing and defence as well?
Amy uses Ariel Ace, its Super Effective.
Okay, let's give it another go...
So Silver has a bit of the riot act read to him about attending a flying class for pegasus foals. Quite frankly, I think he had this coming; Dawn raised a lot of good points that her colleague seemed to overlook. While Air was portrayed as having nothing but noble intentions, I have to wonder just how much he was driven by wanting to be the one to teach Silver to fly. After all, giving instructions to an alicorn about anything is sure to be a feather in one's cap, to say nothing of bringing in good business. I don't think Air was malicious, but I do suspect that he got a bit carried away.
Of course, Dawn doesn't seem to be all there either. Why the heck did she knock Silver to the ground? That strikes me as being very unnecessary, particularly since she then proceeded to calmly lay out her very good points with words. Honestly, that part didn't make much sense to me at all.
I'm also glad that Silver is rethinking the whole "Prince" thing. Honestly, I can understand him wanting to feel like he's "earned" it; one of my favorite quotes is "what we attain too easily, we esteem too lightly," by Thomas Paine. The thing is, I'm not sure that Silver did earn this "easily." He might not have faced down quite the level of danger that Twilight and company have, but he's not exactly lived a quiet life either, even if we write off everything from his dream. Even if we put aside the issue of what he'd be a prince of - which, as Fancy Pants cogently noted - could take years to figure out anyway, that's no reason to necessarily avoid the title.
In fact, I think that Silver's mindset here was telegraphed when he clamped down on adding anyone else to the herd during this entire process. That is, it's understandable to try and shut down everything that's going on when it seems like changes, particularly big changes, are happening...but that doesn't mean that it's necessarily the correct thing to do. This is driven home by the issue of Fast suddenly re-entering their lives; it puts the downside to Silver's trying to force everything to come to a halt into focus. You can't just call a time-out on the entire world when you've been thrown for a loop.
That wasn't the end of Fancy Pants' good advice, either. He also made it clear that Silver couldn't necessarily fix the issue with Carrot Plate. In fact, that goes towards the general theme of what Silver seems to be running into lately: that he can't just fix everything...or that there's even a clear way to try and resolve the issues that he's facing. Even if we overlook that the criteria for what would constitute "earning" being royalty is likely unclear even to Silver, he can't keep pretending that he's the same as every other pony, nor worrying that this somehow makes him less-than (as his question about not being a "real" pony spotlit).
Now, who's that shaking her flank at him? I'm sure everyone has guesses, and mine is...Fleur. After all, would she be that far behind her husband? (That and she always struck me as being a bit too affectionate when we met her all those chapters ago; if this story had her as carrying on affairs under Fancy's nose, it wouldn't surprise me.)
Me think word missing.
Fancy Pants is the hero of this chapter as he is helping Silver find the right path.
a super good chapter.
7229852 Fixing!
7229819 Dawn said, she expected an insufferably snooty noble who would take the knocking over as a grave insult and leave, never to be seen again. Mission accomplished! Silver did not flee, he talked, and listened, and accepted her logic, making her first action entirely unrequired, but you can't undo what you already did.
7230227 Hm, I must have misunderstood; I thought she was referring to her telling him not to attend class, insofar as the "you passed my 'are you a good pony' test" went. That said, judging someone's character by being a jerk to them to see whether or not they act like a jerk back doesn't strike me as a very good way to encourage harmony.
It might be expedient, but slapping someone to find out if they'll turn the other cheek tends to be a poor way to ascertain their personality. (Of course, it's perfect for Silver, given that he keeps pushing himself to act worthwhile because of how deeply his insecurities are ingrained.)
Capitalize.
And here I was expecting Silver to end up in an awkward classroom environment and think how funny it was considering it was Twilight's fear of being sent back to kindergarten.
7230336 Not all ponies are Celestia or Twilight levels of nice. Also she was trying to scare Silver off, not judge him. If he had left, she would have told her boss he never showed up and promptly forgot the whole thing with a snort.
She was a pegasus protecting what was hers, the school in this case.
As it turned out, Silver didn't flee or get pissy. It was a happy ending.
7230349 Not that Silver lacks for awkward, right?
7230350 umm. what she did would be considered assault and the fact that it was that alicorn royalty could banish her.
7230336 i think if it happened to celesita... thy would get thrown in a prison. she has been shown to be nice but no one has ever hit her
I'd forgotten all about Fancy Pants. Honestly he would have been a better choice to go to for advice on how to deal with the noble families than Princess Celestia. He knows how it all works and has a good heart to boot. Not to say that Celestia doesn't possess those qualities as well, but she has a perspective that is so different that a mortal pony, that it is understandably alien in its scope. Silver needs a plan of action that pays off in the short term, not in another thousand years.
7231034 Sorry if i sounded or was rude to you in any post!
7230336 im going to hate my self for this... but thinking unto davids story The true origin of Earth ponys... he is right which makes a few comments i said earlier were right, earth ponys are not inherently stronger the Pegasus are known for flying because all of them fly, unicorns for magic because all of them do magic but earth ponys? only a handful are shown to be strong and only a few of them farmers if i had to say it would be that less than half are strong and a third of that half are farmers because it has been shown that there are not many farmers besides the family which at max are 100 farmers in all of eques, i can make that assumption because apple jack has a monopoly on apples so we can assume that she and her family are the largest and the main source of the produce. we can also say that everyone else that has been shown to have a farm in other things are also in the same boat. going along with that we only see a hand full of these ponys and over, in fact way over half of the pony population live in the city's but evening the ones in the suburbs have been shown to have jobs that do not include farming or construction which can lead to the conclusion that any pony can get strong and earth ponys are not special for it, at most there ability makes it easier to grow crops but that can be done with magic considering that canterlot is largely self sufficient, at least with the weather,
that being said, unicorn is master race because as starlight says, your cuti mark does not define you or something like that, point is, with enough training, any unicorn can become as good as starlight, after all twilight has ocd, is super smart and a librarian and non of those are her cuti mark because it is literally the mark of magic, it also that she is bound to 5 others because of the 6 stars on the mark. after that the only thing that Pegasus win in is flying but a unicorn can use a spell to do that, thy can control the weather, move the sun and moon threw a wired ritual, make lighting and walk on the clouds, yes thy at least most will not be able to fly as well as others but it is the same with the pegasis that all being said, unicorn really is the master race, yes we do not know all of their magic but from some of the spells, it would not be hard to guess that thy can make magic swords
Big question to every one! any anyone ever and i mean ever seen a sword i the show? as far as i can tell, luna was the equivalent to a war priest because when she has been shown to not be as pacifistic and quick to anger, that being said if thy did have an army she was the one that lead it and if not than she has a large interest in it, after all if it was not for any of this, she would have never became night mare moon and the answer for it being a creature of its own will not be accepted because there is no evedance of this, no matter how much i want it to be. back to the sword, the reason there is only spears and bows is because those have rang and that protects the ponys but also stands as a more peace full weapon than a sword, with a spear or bow you could spare a foe but one swing with the sword and thy are dead, that being said. an army with only spears and bows are bad because once the foes get close, the spears and bows will be effective, you cant just have LBM and spear men because those are ranged weapons and not effective at close, after all, what is the point to a sniper rifle at close blank and it is useless agenst zombies and it goes to show that celestia doe not know the art of war, it was probably one of the factors giving to why thy lost when the changlings invaded, also note how pinkie has her party canon but yet there is never a real canon to be seen...
7231683 Cannons were displayed, and used, in the hatfield vs mccoy episode. They were earth ponies using them, go figure.
As for 1000 years dungeon and banishing and being imprisoned where you are banished, both of these are, so far, unsubstantiated fears held by Twilight and Fluttershy. The show has given us close to zero proof that anyone who isn't unrepentantly evil can't be dealt with in a civil manner. If the pegasus was hauled into court for knocking over a pony, who wasn't actually injured, she may face a fine, censure, some duty to perform, or some similar level of punishment. Imprisonment? Not terribly likely.
If the noble she gravely offended pulled the right strings, she may get tossed in, for a little while. Maybe a few weeks to cool off might teach her a lesson. In Canterlot, the chances are much lower, with Celestia heading the justice system there. In a town like Manehattan or other place with another justice provider, the odds go up. Mayor Mare may be talked into things a bit easier.
7231790 well he is more than a royal(, he is a prince/ king because only male?) with alicorn status and on the same lvl as celsestia and the others. in most places it would be treason and she basicaly attacked him, in such a peace bearing nation thy would go to jail
7231683 I haven't read that story, but your basic point in that first paragraph can be boiled down to "the show says that earth ponies have magic that gives them the strength to work the land, but there's very little that's actually shown to back that up." That's pretty much correct; the show has done a very bad job of actually demonstrating what magic earth ponies have that makes them special. That's because passive abilities, particularly ones that aren't inherently visual, are hard to demonstrate.
Nevertheless, there's nothing suggesting that Celestia's statement is wrong, per se. A lot of earth ponies aren't farmers; true enough, but leaving aside that virtually all of the farmers we've seen are earth ponies, having earth ponies who don't work on farms doesn't necessarily disprove anything. You can have pegasi who don't fly very much or unicorns who don't cast many spells, and that doesn't mean that their magic isn't there.
There is, however, nothing suggesting that most ponies live in cities, as you've posited. The show has been terrible about offering any demographics whatsoever, so we're left with passive judgments and inferences to try and solve issues of demography in Equestria. That said, I'm aware of at least one excellent essay that makes some very cogent postulations regarding why cities in Equestria really wouldn't be that large, in terms of population.
Insofar as unicorns go...once again, you're making stuff up without citing any sources for them, and I suspect that most of your reasoning can be boiled down to "but there's no reason it couldn't be this way!" which as I've explained before is insufficient - if you want to make an affirmative postulation, you need to supply evidence for why it is that way. You say that "any unicorn" that studies hard could become like Starlight or Twilight, but you show no evidence of that being so; quite the contrary, we've seen unicorns do just that and not achieve the same results, namely Moon Dancer (Amending Fences) and Sunburst (The Crystalling - Part 1 & 2). You suggest that Twilight's intelligence has nothing to do with her cutie mark, but that's clearly not true because we've that studying magic is shown to be a scholastic discipline, so it makes sense that having a special talent for magic would necessarily give her "book-smarts" in order to do that.
That's why your so-called "master race" could very well be called the weakest of the three pony tribes. The vast majority of unicorns don't have cutie marks related to magic, and so will NEVER be able to do anything approaching the level of Twilight and Starlight. There's a reason why only Starlight can use telekinetic flight (which is shown to be less maneuverable than that of a pegasus, as seen at the end of The Cutie Re-Mark - Part 2 when Starlight is moving through hoops with Rainbow Dash), why only Twilight can cast the spell to walk on clouds, and why when Rarity tries to use her telekinesis to control the weather (Magical Mystery Cure) she fouls it up badly.
7231829 Sure, with Earth justice, which this isn't. Saying it 'has' to be like human justice is just a plain lie when it's been shown, proven, to be very much not like any justice system that currently exists on our planet.
Even with Earth justice, if you knock over someone important, and they don't care, you don't get jailed. Push the fricken pope over, if he smiles and says it's alright, you don't go to jail, at least not for that, especially if only the pope is around to provide evidence that you knocked him over. She tipped over Silver, but who else was around? No one. Is Silver going to bring down the law on her? Not likely, she walks, even with Earth logic.
This isn't Earth.
These aren't humans.
This isn't the justice system you're looking for.
7231830 you bring up some fair points with the earth pony rationing, thy have done a terrible job at showing things like that off and i never said thy were useless, just that others could take place in terms of strength, if you look a the shear height of the buildings you can infer that lots of ponys live there because thy would not carelessly use that much resorses and yet such a low population lives in that area, what i can take from the essay, only a few ponys in ponyvill are shown and i have a strange feeling that its actually larger with a pop of min 150 and a max of 500, after all its close to the river and thus has a high amount of vegetation. one example on this working is the shear number of uncountable apple trees that apple jack has, now im no apple expert or magic expert but i do understand that she is always apple bucking but duning once a year there is a big buck, now with this steady stream of apples there are only so many brought to the market place so either she is selling alot all the time or she is shipping out for her monopoly. that being said, most of the settlements we have seen have had some sort of farm so its not hard to say that most are self sustaining, with the idea of that, many of the farms are huge. going along that thy don't just eat apples and that there main thing is hay (were the hell are all those hay farms?) its adequit to say that she does sell it to alot of people, weather sub or eurben but the majority probably goes to the city's, now aside from pop, it can be said that one farm can feed at least 500 people for a month, also apples are not her only poduce, http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Sweet_Apple_Acres
now the pop in that area is a gestamint but i live in a wooded area from which i inference it. i admit it is not an exact science but since people have lived there 5 generations, (smiths mom and dad, grany smith since she is like 5, apple jacks parents (unknown if deceased) , apple jack into adult hood and sweety bell) with people joining the community so it was just an guess, after all it is a perfect place to live in.
with the pegasis and unicorns, you never see any that don't fly for use magic, all unicorns at least use telekinesis, and there is that butterfly wing spell but who is not to say that there is not a real wings spell but it is more complex, after that im this article it says that usually unicorns use spells based on there mark but that thy can learn other things and succeed, in that other unicorns case that he was good at books, i would assume that as he talks he kind of tells us that he does not have as much magic as others. this all being said, if a unicorn can build and maintain a shield, why can there not be a spell that uses the same idea but forms it into a sharp sword?the shields look thin enough that if a piece hits you it could damage you like if we found a supper metal and made it paper thin and it his some one but not as well
lastly, it was never told that rarity was using telekinesis for the clouds, only thing we know is she was using magic, we do know that she makes some of the patches very hot and others very cold but she had no experience, we really dont know what a cutie mark is. before it was explaned that it is just an explanation of a speicel talent but starlight can steal them. what i do not understand is why it leaves them uslese and unable to do anything, that is why i think that the spell she uses has been made and tweeked as an enslavement spell, after all the spell makes ponys act a way and it forces them to forget things which is strang
Random questionm how long do you think till a people can be considered native to a country, genorations that is
7231856 umm, tripped?
she propelled herself at a speed fast enough to fly, flew straight at him hooves first and a human would have fractured rips among other things, at the least for a human, a small fracture if its a female into the chest and majer bruising, that being said, she still hurt him. because it was more than jumping and less than flying
7232005 If you want to engage in a debate, then I'm going to have to insist that you use better grammar. Your long walls of text are so marred by poor punctuation and misspellings that they're honestly difficult to read. You need to hold yourself to a higher standard.
To address what seem like the more salient points from your post:
Sweet Apple Acres, and other farms, can't really be compared to how farms operate in the real world. This is for several reasons, primarily among which are that the weather can be controlled to promote the best growing conditions, that earth ponies are stated to have the strength necessary to work the land (and so don't need to raise and maintain beasts of burden to do so for them), and that ponies with farming-related cutie marks will have magic that helps them farm. We've seen several times that Applejack can lay down soil and immediately cause plants to sprout (e.g. during the musical sequence in Castle Sweet Castle). That's without getting into her ability to harvest the apples from a tree in a single buck, etc. So it's not unreasonable to presume that her ability to harvest apples far exceed what a similar orchard on Earth could produce.
Likewise, the population of Ponyville is unknown, but there are several excellent essays among the fandom that place is as likely being several thousand ponies.
Moving on, I notice you say this:
If you've said "who is to say there is not," then you've already admitted that you're making stuff up. I've told you time and again, you need to rely on affirmative evidence for something, rather than a lack of evidence against.
Insofar as unicorns and learning other magic goes, the wiki article you linked to says "The ability to cast other spells varies widely and sometimes depends on the unicorn's special talent." Leaving aside that it blatantly references special talent - e.g. cutie mark - the issue isn't whether or not they can learn other magic at all, but to what extent and how strong/complex that magic is. We see unicorns in the crowd in The Mane Attraction create lights from their horns, so there's clearly some ability to learn new spells. But that's far and away different from suggesting that they could all learn to cast lightning bolts or teleport all over the place. Shining Armor could form and maintain a shield, but that's quite clearly his special talent, as his cutie mark shows. Starlight could as well, but her cutie mark is about magic in general.
Finally, it's difficult to use what happened with Starlight as any sort of metric for judging what cutie marks are. That's because her spell didn't just remove them, but replaced them as well, which (given it's nature as an equals sign, representing not having any talent above and beyond anypony else) seemed to act like a suppressant. I say that, because when five of the Mane Six swapped cutie marks in Magical Mystery Cure, they all still had their original special talents. (You say that Rarity didn't expressly say/show that she used telekinesis on cloud; I could check, but even if that's the case, it seems like a reasonable assumption, as she has no other way of reaching clouds in the sky.)
7232110 ok so first things first, refer to this
unicorns, now since we have decided that thy use telekinesis powers to move the sun and more, that being said only a few are needed which shows that unicorns with the one power are stronger than the others, rarity who had no desires to learn combat magic or anything pass gem finding and the obvious is able to create a storm by herself, after that the sun and moon which are very far away no mater what there true size is can be used as a hammer agenst their foes which i have thought of before that being said, trixy with the unicorn amulet was able to beat an entire town plus one twilight sparkle. the sun alone stumps both pegisi and earth pony magics because the sun can scorch the earth and evaporate clouds and than be used as a weapon.
7232165 I've looked at that article you've linked to, and I think that it's very poorly constructed. Or rather, I think that the points it raised can all be countered if we examine them more closely.
Even if we leave aside that A Hearth's Warming Tail introduced an element of uncertainty as to the historical accuracy of the events of the play in Hearth's Warming Eve (Starlight protests that the play is "just a story" to Twilight, who doesn't soundly refute that assertion), the idea that the unicorns are more powerful than the pegasi because they controlled the movement of the sun and moon is based on the presumption that the sun and moon - and all aspects of astronomy and cosmology - function in that universe as they do in our own. As we've seen in numerous episodes, that's not true - Discord causes the sun and the moon to move in very chaotic patterns in Return of Harmony - Part 1 & 2, and Twilight does the same in Twilight's Kingdom - Part 2, with no tidal problems forming. Likewise, Nightmare Moon is able to form a kingdom of eternal night in The Cutie Re-Mark - Part 2, and yet we never see the resultant drop in temperatures that should kill almost everything as a result of this.
Moreover, the idea that the unicorns could use this as a "tool of war" is patently ridiculous. The motion of the heavens affects everything under them; the only way to use this as a threat would be to threaten everything, including themselves. If you want to affect temperatures, then you should be prepared to watch your friends and family freeze alongside your enemies. Even more germane is that this ability is entirely collective in nature; it's not something unicorns could do on their own, which is exactly the opposite of earth ponies and pegasi. There's certainly nothing to suggest that unicorns could likewise "throw a mountain" with collective action the way they could move the sun and the moon.
I also find fault with the idea that unicorns could use the sun to evaporate clouds or cause a drought; we've seen how clouds are "destroyed" in Equestria, and it's always been by being physically demolished. Likewise, even discounting the using heavy cloud cover to cut off the sun and water the earth, those earth ponies that have farming cutie marks can cause plants to instantaneously grow, as I mentioned we saw Applejack do.
(EDIT: Consider also that Cloudsdale receives the water to make more rainclouds in Hurricane Fluttershy via having liquid water delivered to them, rather than collecting moisture in the air.)
Secondly, unicorns do not possess "far greater utility" than pegasi or earth ponies. They possess, at most, slightly more, excepting only rare individuals. After all, as I noted, Rarity's moving clouds in Magical Mystery Cure only served to highlight how inept she was at it, to the point where she was a danger to herself and others. Likewise, baby unicorns don't have control over their magic, instead having dangerous and unpredictable magical surges that are, again, to everypony's detriment. Similarly, the ability to walk on clouds or create flight spells is, as I've mentioned before, something limited to the realm of exceptional unicorns such as Twilight or Starlight. Hence why Rarity didn't cast that spell on herself (even when she fell from the sky).
Thirdly, the unicorns do produce the most powerful specimens, but so what? Exceptional individuals are the exception, not the rule. Earth ponies and pegasi have their own exceptions (e.g. Maud and Rainbow Dash, respectively), and while they might not have the versatility of an exceptional unicorn, that's far and away different from suggesting that unicorns as a whole are some sort of "master race." I'm not sure why that article references Trixie with the Alicorn Amulet to push forward the idea of unicorns as being more powerful, since the entire point of that episode was that Trixie wasn't anything special without a major magical item that couldn't be separated from her unless she removed it herself. Otherwise, a few notable individuals do not make the entire race overpowered.
7232206 im going to start from the bottom, going from what you said
just as you said it, we see the elite that are apple jacks family and rainbow dash as we know are the elites of the race. might not be the graceful but thy are the strongest. going up, yes discord moved the sun but he is as strong as celestia or much stronger than the average pony and maybe celestia because the only way thy beat them was because of the elements of harmony, that being said he is chaos and has shown more magical skill than anyone ever shown in the show, he turned rods into soap, changed the entire landscapes into different colors and moved the sun and moon with everything else going on at the same time so its not hard to say that he made sure that nothing got hurt, after words we are never told that no tide effects happen because thy were in the center of the contenent so would not see the effects. will continue this in an hour because i now need to take the bus
7232237 Again, you can't cite a lack of something as postulating that it might have occurred. We're not told, nor shown, that tidal changes happened when the moon was moved erratically, so - given the various other areas of cosmology where the show breaks from reality - it's more proper (in terms of critical thinking) to suggest that none happened, and that ergo such issues are consistent with the rest of the show's depiction of how cosmology works in terms of breaking with what we know to be true in the real world.
Dawn. You attacked royalty (even if he denies it). Hopefully that chip on her a shoulder has been lessened?
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Hmmm. It seems like you might enjoy Admiral Biscuit's one-shot story about Silver Spanner, the unicorn who wanted to be a plumber, if you haven't already read it. She faces an uphill battle because that's "not a unicorn profession." It has a neat and somewhat subtle approach to some of the ingrain societal beliefs for his version of Equestria.
its a trap