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Dec
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2013

What Is Intelligence? · 9:22pm Dec 5th, 2013

Simple question, but a lot of different answers. See, I'm trying out a story about a robot with artificial intelligence. One of the most crucial parts of the story is what can be described as true intelligence and what isn't. Does not having a conscience make you more intelligent or less? Can you even be considered sentient when your basic thought process can be summed up in 1's and 0's? The most important question, however, is when is that spark of intelligence lit? When exactly does a human become self aware? When is it that we first begin thinking, and how? What starts us off in our brains for us to be considered sapient? And if we know the answer to that, then when is a robot considered truly intelligent? When their artificial intelligence program is turned on, or would there be something more? This blog is open to interpretation and comments since I'd like to get various different opinions on the topic at hand.

And yes, before you ask, the story will be about a killer robot ending up in Equestria. Hijinks and blood spattering ensue!

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Copycat.

I think Sapience is just that we can build stuff.

intelligence means you get good grades in school so you can show your mommy and daddy and they will be proud of you

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His name is Nixon and he likes using laser vision to fry dirty meat bags, okay! :rarity despair:
AND NIXON SPEAKS IN THE THIRD PERSON ALL THE TIME EVERY TIME! :flutterrage:

If you ask me, intellect is the standard of solving a problem. If you see a wall in front of you, if you're of a lower intelligence, you might just try and run through it. However, someone of a mild sense would think to go over or around it. Further still, a highly intelligent person would have already conceived the wall would be in their way and had devised several ways to get past it beforehand.

To me, that is intelligence.

While it doesn't really elaborate on the limits of the robot's intelligence, I'm sure this story will help somewhat in showing what things are like through a robot's perspective, especially one that's gone berserk and is shooting down ponies (lethally or not).

Intelligence is knowing how things work, and basic knowledge. Pretty much stuff you learn in school and textbooks, etc
Things you learn from life experience, stuff that can't simply be learned through teaching, is more along the lines of wisdom.
As for the difference between being able to carry out commands and relay information (such as what artificial intelligence does) and being a sentient lifeform, I think that once something is able to feel an opinion or bias towards something is when it distinguishes itself.
But, y'know, I'm just making this up as I go :twilightoops:

+-My friends and I had this disscussion a while back. We figured that self awareness and intelligence comes when you have the ability to question your existance. We become self aware to life when we're young and begin to remember. Over time and based on what we do and have in our surroundings makes our personality. With AI, a lot of knowleage is programed into it from the start but there is still room to learn. After a while, the AI starts to devolop a personality and when it begins to ask why is it alive and is there more to life is when it is declared self aware.

That's my friends and I concluded anyway.:pinkiehappy:

1)There is factual knowledge
a)If X happens then y is likely to happen
b) If you do X, Y will happen
c)X contains Y, and therefore can be used for Z
2)Learning/adaptability
a)handling being incorrect on something
b)Learning new stuff in a way that doesn't harm you
3)Imagination/prediction
a)predicting other "intelligent" beings actions
b)predicting dangers/exc
4)ability to connect facts together.
5) ability to recognize art/exc pretty tings (might not be intelligence related tho idk)

That's all the tings I could think off on top of my head , google types of intelligence for more information.

Well, I personally am of the opinion that we will never truly have Artificial Intelligence in the full sense of the word.

What I mean by that is machines are only capable of doing what we program them to do. So in theory we could program a machine to "act" intelligent but is it true intelligence when we've just programmed it to do x when y is present. I doubt we'll ever be able to get machines to 'reason' or really think and draw conclusions that aren't previously coded into them.

I guess I would consider true intelligence to be where someone can reason and think or draw from experiences and events that happen to them. Or think for themselves :rainbowhuh:

That's just me though :derpytongue2:

I think intelligence can be summed up as simply being able to see and comprehend complex examples of cause and effect.

Like, more deep than understanding that you dropped your phone because you ate some popcorn before you picked it up. More like understanding other view points and why people have them.

I believe intelligence, at its most basic level, is empathy

I mean problem solving is all well and good but there is typically an easy solution that most examples of AI take being destroy the root cause of the problem. (I'm speaking mostly from movies and some literature of course)

Being able to have empathy and look a bit deeper into solving problems correctly and solving problems with a bit of compassion would be what I consider true intelligence.

and you simply cannot do that with out empathy.

I think I remember seeing that picture on The Robot Survival Guide

There's this one guy who might just be the most intelligent person I know... he's a code monkey and he does crazy shit with computers that I can't even begin to understand. Caught the dumbass kicking the bottom of a leaning, rotting tree in his back yard that promptly fell over and nearly killed him.

All I know for sure is this: Intelligence =/= being smart... or even paying attention, :facehoof:

Also:
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Intelligence, conscience and self-awareness are completely different things.

Intelligence is one's ability to come up with appropriate solutions to a problem never encountered before, with understanding of cause/effect phenomenons.
Self awareness is one's ability to know that they are different from their environment.
Conscience is the knowledge that we are too complex to understand completely.

In my opinion, the deciding factor that yields true intelligence — true sapience — is metacognition, the ability to think about your own thoughts. Recognizing and adjusting your own thought process means taking the reins from rote directives, whether they be evolved or programmed. The metacognitive can reshape itself into something beyond what it was made to be, the essence of self-awareness and self-determination.

In the case of an AI, this boils down to "Can it rewrite itself?"

As my psychology class just discussed this recently, I can put in my two cents. There is no absolute, grand definition for intelligence, as there are many types, from analytical, creative, and practical, which helps in fields like math, art and street smarts, respectively. For something like an AI, I believe it can simply be having a conscious and gradually gaining knowledge from your experience and day to day activities. It doesn't require high IQ as one might believe, but it simply is the ability to learn.

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It is one of the base questions of AI theory whether structure or behaviour defines an intelligence. So far, no consensus (not surprising, considering it is a philosophical problem).

This might help you.:

I figure intelligence can be measured in how much you know. When I say this, I don't mean know the answers to questions like: 'What is the meaning of life' because that is a philosophical question. Being intelligent doesn't mean you're wise, and being wise doesn't make you intelligent. If we're talking about a robot with intelligence then it won't be wise because you need emotion to answer to be wise. In all honesty, I can only see a robot with artificial intelligence being just really smart, like being able to recite the full number for Pi smart. Probably view all things with pure logic and act accordingly. Like seeing someone in danger and could be rescued by you but won't because doing so would put yourself in danger, so it's logical to not help.

Intelligence is bananas.

Two robots that I know about that got intelligence, not preprogrammed or changed somehow, are R2-D2 and WALL-E.
Both started out the same as all the others, but due to an extremely long memory, became able to act differently than what their programs may appear to allow.
I don't know what to do with this, but its something.

What's intelligence?

there are (IMO) two types of A.I.s: 'dumb' A.I.s and 'smart' A.I.s

the 'dumb' A.I. is limited to its role in terms of what it can and can't learn, i.e. a nav. A.I. on board a star ship would know or can learn all about astrophysics but if you ask it about anything other then navigation its ether clueless or a parrot

the 'smart' A.I. is ownly limited in its ability to learn by its own desire

Well, it was once said that intelligence is like pornography; difficult to define, but I like it when I see it.

More seriously, though, intelligence is the ability to understand and simulate reality and solve problems. Because of the broad nature of these two things, really intelligent things can communicate, learn, plan, create, engage in abstract thought, ect.

Does not having a conscience make you more intelligent or less?

All a conscience is is the capacity to differentiate right from wrong; however, as right and wrong are, ultimately, arbitrary, conscience is, ultimately, arbitrary as well. Given that human beings have lacked consciences and been fully intelligent, it obviously isn't a necessary component of intelligence; that being said, being able to simulate a conscience to behave in a manner that doesn't get you in trouble socially is a valuable skill. It isn't, however, a prerequisite for intelligence, merely something that most intelligent things which have to deal with other intelligent things would develop.

Can you even be considered sentient when your basic thought process can be summed up in 1's and 0's?

There's nothing preventing a human brain from being summed up in 1s and 0s, so obviously, yes. Also, I think you meant sapient here, not sentient - Roombas are sentient, but are not sapient; so are all animals.

In the end, humans - and indeed, all living things - are merely very sophisticated machines made out of meat.

The most important question, however, is when is that spark of intelligence lit? When exactly does a human become self aware? When is it that we first begin thinking, and how? What starts us off in our brains for us to be considered sapient?

It is important to realize that there is no actual demarcation here; intelligence is a sliding scale, not an absolute on-off switch. It is hard to define when, exactly, something is a person, not in the least because, on Earth at least, humans are vastly more intelligent than the next most intelligent living creatures - dolphins, a few breeds of parrot, elephants, chimpanzees, gorrillas, and possibly some corvids. The gulf between us and them is vast, far greater than the gap between them and other things, and as such, the only time we really have to deal with this question is with severely retarded human beings, who, in some cases, may not constitute being "people".

I think the most useful definition of personhood is a creature which is intellectually capable of behaving in what might be defined as a moral manner. This is not to say that they MUST behave in a moral manner, merely that they have the capability to understand what morality is. Merely following rules is insufficient; they must be capable of formulating them for themselves. The reason that this is the most useful definition is that people obey different rules from animals; animals need obey no laws, and indeed, are incapable of really understanding them in the way that humans do. On the other hand, it means that equally, they are not people, and ergo lack any protection save from needless torture or inhumane treatment. Ultimately, animals are "things", whereas people are not. A person must be capable of operating as an individual in society on an intellectual level.

There's no spark of intelligence. Humans are vastly more intelligent than anything else, but nothing magical happened - we just gradually got smarter and smarter over time compared to anything else. There was no magical line in the sand, we just hit the point where our intelligence became ridiculous.

1575710 What you just asked. Seeking answers to things you don't know and realizing other beings might possess that knowledge. The theory of mind.

being really smart.

If it can think past base instincts.

Brillient topic. counciousness is one of the hardest things to define and sapience is even more difficult, lte's look at it this way. It has beem talked about that it could be possible to scan a humans brain, memories and all, take the complete scan, and transfer it into either a super computer or a robot, now what is often asked here is, is this being still human after transending the physical body even though his/her/its brain now works the same way a computer works? The opinions on this are many and varied and that's not even artificial intelligence. Lets try a popular example of this scenario, Commander Data from Star Trek repeatedly said he 'missed' people when tehy were gone and that he 'worried' for those he considered his 'friends' this shows that he can understand emotions that a non senteint could not. Creating a counciousness is a difficult but not impossible task, a good way to do this is to base the robot/android's counciousness off of a human brain scan. The most famous example of this is in the Marvel superhero The Vision, when in the universes where he is in fact an android, his brain is sometimes copied from a scan of the hero Wonderman's this makes him so human that he even falls in love with, and marries The Scarlet Witch. These are just a few scenarios and ways to do this, since it's never been successful in real life (as far as we know) anyway you choose to design the robot will likley work.

Illusions are experiences in the mind, but they are not out there in nature. Rather, they are events generated by the brain. Most of us have an experience of a self. I certainly have one, and I do not doubt that others do as well – an autonomous individual with a coherent identity and sense of free will. But that experience is an illusion – it does not exist independently of the person having the experience, and it is certainly not what it seems. That’s not to say that the illusion is pointless. Experiencing a self illusion may have tangible functional benefits in the way we think and act, but that does not mean that it exists as an entity. [source]

If an illusion of self is good enough for us, would not the illusion of self be good enough for an Synthetic Intelligence? I don't think there is overly that much of a difference.

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Wow, I never looked at it like that before. Life itself could just be an illusion that we live. I wonder if that illusion still applies to robots, or will their illusion be different? Or maybe they don't have an illusion at all and see life for what it is. Ooh, new ideas to brainstorm with! :pinkiehappy:

To me, intelligence has always been the ability to choose.

Intelligence? I'm pretty sure that is illegal in this country.

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