“General Onyx!” One of the soldiers knocked on the door and entered his makeshift office once he gave the go ahead. General Onyx was the overseer of the scouting operation, tasked with locating the First Humans. He was the only soldier who had known who they were truly after, and what their capabilities were; he had been informed by Celestia herself when he was tasked with overseeing this operation.
“Ahh… have a seat, have a seat. Mr…” He trailed off, indirectly asking the one who had entered for his name.
“Colonel Sweeper, sir,” he answered, before taking a seat.
“Alright colonel, how may I help you?” General Onyx asked.
“I have been sent to inform you that the scouts should be returning soon sir,” he replied.
“Soon? How soon?” Onyx inquired.
“In about five to ten minutes,” the colonel answered.
“Excellent! I’ll be out in just a moment, just have to finish writing my letter to the princess,” said Onyx.
“Would you like me to wait for you sir?” Colonel Sweeper asked.
“No, that will not be necessary, you go on ahead. Dismissed,” the general replied. The colonel then gave a salute and exited the room.
“Agent Sweetie Drops!” General Onyx walked up to her.
“General Onyx,” Sweetie Drops greeted.
“I decided to head on out of my office to come check up on how the operation went, and you’re the first one I spotted. So, tell me, which party are you waiting for?” Onyx asked.
“I’m waiting for group eight. It’s being led by Lieutenant Sharp,” Sweetie Drops informed.
It was at this point that the other scouting parties began returning to Ponyville. It was a good thing they were all in one piece as well.
It had been around ten minutes, and most of the other groups had already landed. A few of them were late, however, and group eight was one of them. Neither the general nor Agent Sweetie Drops had thought that anything had gone wrong yet. It had been only ten minutes after all. But then, they spotted something moving in the distance, coming out of the everfree forest.
“What is that?” Agent Sweetie Drops asked.
“What’s what?” General Onyx asked, still not noticing the figure moving in the distance.
“T- thats a pony!” Agent Sweetie Drops observed.
“What’s a pony doing in the Everfree Forest?” The general asked, sounding quite surprised.
“Not just a pony. It’s one of the guards, from the direction she’s heading from, it looks like she’s from Lieutenant Sharp’s group. But what’s she doing alone?” Sweetie Drops asked, as the both of them began to make their way towards the guard.
“Excuse me, soldier?” The general addressed her while the duo walked towards her. “What were you doing in the forest? And where is the rest of your squad?”
The unicorn soldier looked towards the general. She was now out of danger, she had managed to lose the drones the humans sent after her by giving them the slip. She had even managed to destroy one of them when she levitated a large log and rammed it into one of the rotating fans that functioned as its propellers. She had managed to down another one by throwing a boulder at it, though the large rock only managed to slow it down, the damage was clearly visible.
She knew who he was, and knew she shouldn’t have made such a display in front of such a superior officer. But now that she was safe, she had time to think of all that had occurred. She could no longer stay strong, and she just broke down into tears.
“Hello? Excuse me, are you alright?” The general asked with concern. “What happened? Where’s the rest of your squad?”
“T- they’re all… all… “ She couldn’t finish her sentence as she once again started sobbing uncontrollably.
“Hey, hey,” Sweetie Drops tried comforting her by putting a hoof on her back. “It’s okay, you’re safe now. But we have to know what happened. Where’s the rest of your squad?” Sweetie Drops asked.
“They’re… they’re dead. They’re all dead! Every single one of them!” She said in between sobs.
“All ninety nine of your squad members are dead?” The general asked in disbelief.
“How?!" Sweetie Drops asked. She doubted a human rebellion could accomplish this.
"W- we were slaughtered. B- by two metal dragons!" She said, still crying her eyes out.
"Metal dragons?" The general asked, now worried.
"I know what I saw! They had weapons the likes of which I've never seen!" She then began to take on a tone of regret. "Th- they warned us. They warned us twice! They showed us mercy! We should've listened."
"Now soldier, I need you to listen to me very carefully. I don't know your name, nor your rank, and I don't know what happened at all. But I really, really need to know what happened, very urgently. We might come under attack very soon, and I need to assess the situation," he then took on a more understanding tone. "I know all this is a lot for you. I can't imagine how you must feel, losing your friends like that. But we can't afford another minute of wasted time. I do understand your plight, however, and I'll give you ten minutes to mourn, although I shouldn't. And after that you better be ready to tell me exactly what happened, detail for detail. Understand?"
The unicorn soldier just nodded her head as she continued crying, with Sweetie Drops still comforting her.
"Thank you. Agent Sweetie Drops, I trust you will take her directly to my office?" General Onyx asked.
"Yes, of course," Sweetie Drops replied. The general then headed back, about to write to Celestia about how they had found the First Humans, and how the scouting party they had sent had been attacked, with only one survivor remaining.
"Celestia, we just had a meeting less than a day ago," King Talon said, "Why have you called us back?"
"Well, we've located the First Humans. They're set up nearby Tartarus, and I think they've destroyed it," Celestia explained.
"What? What do you mean destroyed?" King Steel Horn asked, confused.
"I mean they've demolished it, and for that reason, we believe that the First Humans are currently working alongside Tirek and Cozy Glow," Celestia explained.
"What? How do you know this?" King Rutherford asked.
"Well, the only reason they would have for destroying Tartarus would be to break Tirek and Cozy Glow out of prison. And I believe they could've easily dealt with Cerberus," Luna replied.
"Right, then when are we attacking?" Ember asked, "The longer we leave them to fester, the more powerful they get. And God help us if they are able to once again rally the slaves to their cause."
"That's exactly why I've called all of you. We wish to assault them as soon as possible, however, I think they've gotten more powerful over the years," Celstia stated.Ember asked.
“Well, Tartarus is a rather large landmark. I think it would be rather obvious if it just randomly disappeared. But if you want to know the more intricate details, we tried to spot it in the distance, but we couldn’t,” Luna stated, “So it’s either the first humans, or Tartarus just vanished with no discernible cause, and I highly doubt the latter is the case.”
“And how exactly would the First Humans have been able to accomplish such a thing in the first place?” Ember asked, still skeptical.
“We believe there are two possibilities. The first, is that in the last thousand years, the surviving Vega Corporation employees have been biding their time and getting stronger, and that they are now either back to take over the world and attempt to gain immortality once again, or that they are back just for revenge. Knowing the First Humans however, they are both intelligent and efficient, so the most likely scenario is that they have reemerged once again to do both,” Celestia explained, before Luna took over.
“The next possible scenario, and the least likely, is that these are First Humans, but they’re not from the Vega Corporation. As we’ve already discussed, the First Humans’ society was very much like ours, with their extremely advanced technology replacing the need for magic in their daily lives. As such, we can assume that this Vega Corporation was not the only one to try to build an underground fortress to try and escape the radiation that was brought upon them during the second flood, and we can assume that among all the billions of First Humans that there were, the Vega Corporation was not the only faction that had the required resources to build their ‘doomsday bunker’. They had other corporations as well, bigger corporations. And that's not even taking into account the fact that, before their betrayal, the First Humans told us that they used to nearly two hundred independent nations, all of which we can assume were probably capable of much more than what the Vega Corporation was capable of," said Luna.
"I think the second option seems more likely. Why do you think it's probably the first?" High Priestess Ada asked.
"The explosion that killed them was as big as the badlands itself. I don't think they survived," Prince Rutherford stated.
"If a mere company was capable of creating a bunker, obtaining the technology required for a million year slumber, and nearly ending the world, I shudder to think of what actual First Human nations would be capable of," said Queen Novo.
"But if these really are just surviving Vega Corporation members, we must prepare to both launch an assault against them and defend our countries!" Said King Steel Horn, "Now that they know that we know of their whereabouts, there's no doubt they would try to attack us before we attack them! So we must attack them before they try to attack us before we attack them!"
"Yeah, what he said," Ember agreed.
"Umm, Celestia?" Thorax got her attention. "Why exactly did you say that the First Humans got more powerful? What exactly led you to believe that?"
"You mean other than the fact that they were able to demolish Tartarus? Well…" Luna then explained what happened with the scouting party that they sent. She retold the story of how they used missiles, both large and small, to utterly decimate the scouting party, and the fact that their magic was completely useless against their aircraft.
"That… does not sound like the Vega Corporation," King Talon stated.
"The Vega Corporation did have those metal dragons which you said they used, and although they had extremely powerful guns mounted on these vehicles… they didn't shoot our large, metal arrows that follow you around and then explode upon making contact with you," King Steel Horn added.
"The Vega Corporation never had weapons like these! They had guns, bigger guns, throwable bombs, and bigger guns that shoot out explosive arrows. But they never had aircrafts that shot out explosive arrows, let alone explosive arrows that follow you!" Prince Rutherford raised his voice.
"The Vega Corporation has grown in strength. Either that or we are facing an entirely new threat altogether," said High Priestess Ada, stating the obvious.
"Well, it's clear what we should do. We should strike now! Before they attack us first! Even with their upgraded weapons, I highly doubt they would be able to contend with us if we overwhelm them with our numbers. Seeing as they've just emerged, they probably haven't indoctrinated the other slaves yet, and I still stand by my opinion that we should strike them before they are able to grow their numbers by indoctrinating the human slaves," King Steel Horn proposed.
"Well, that could work, but what if they really are a different faction of First Humans? What if they're not Vega Corporation?" King Talon asked.
"Then we'll be able to catch them by surprise! They won't know much about our capabilities, nor our numbers. If we let them fester, they'll become a much larger threat, but if we strike now, en masse, we should be able to take them by surprise, and overwhelm them with our numbers," King Steel Horn suggested.
"Yes, well, there's a small problem with that," said King Talon, "We don't know anything about their capabilities and their numbers as well. For all we know, the moment we show up, we will be the ones getting taken by surprise by their weapons and their numbers. As Celestia had told us, they only sent out two metal dragons to deal with the scouting party, which I remind you, was a force of a hundred ponies strong. Yet, the metal dragons utterly decimated them, although they outnumbered the metal dragons by fifty to one. And not only that, but they took no damage whatsoever, not even a scratch. These metal dragons were similar to the ones the Vega Corporation had, but much more powerful. So we can assume that whoever they are, they are much more powerful than the Vega Corporation when we fought them a thousand years ago."
"Well, even if they are more powerful, how many First Humans can really fit in one of their doomsday bunkers anyway? From the knowledge we have gained from the Vega Corporation members themselves, we know that these bunkers were extremely difficult and expensive to make. Even the corporation's bunker apparently costed over three hundred billion bits to build, just put that into perspective. The construction costed more than all of the money in Equestria's royal vault combined. And even with their construction machines, it apparently took them nearly ten thousand humans to construct the bunker. They definitely couldn't have built one big enough to house too many humans, and they probably wouldn't have been able to fit too many metal dragons either," King Steel Horn countered.
"King Steel is right," Luna agreed, "Considering the cost and effort that was required to build a bunker that housed just three thousand individuals was already so high, I doubt they could build a bunker to house much more than that, and have enough space for their metal dragons and other weapons."
"But all of you are forgetting one factor. The most important factor," Cadence finally spoke up, "The world ender."
"She's right. What if they use the world ender on one of our kingdoms?" Thorax asked worriedly.
“The world ender? They won’t use it,” King Steel Horn said confidently.
“How do you know that?” Thorax asked. “I think the only reason that they didn’t use it a thousand years ago is because they only had one of these devastating weapons. If this is the Vega Corporation, how do we know that they haven’t made more of these weapons over the past thousand years that we have left them to their own devices? And if the threat we are currently facing is not the Vega Corporation, how do we know that they don’t have any world enders at their disposal?”
“Because through the information that we have gained through Discord infiltrating their ranks, we know that their world enders are extremely hard to make and obtain. Only a select few of the strongest First Human nations out of the hundreds they used to have had world enders at their disposal. So I highly doubt that whoever we are up against have more of these weapons,” Cadence replied.
“That is the reason that they probably don’t have any, but let me tell you the reason that they won’t even use them if they do have them,” King Steel Horn took center stage. “Firstly, even if they do have these weapons, if they use them, they would be killing their own people as well. All of our nations use humans as slaves, so they would be killing a lot of humans alongside us,” he said with a confident tone, “The second is that even if they do have let’s say three of these weapons, the moment they use them, we will have nothing left to lose. If they use all of their world enders, we will be able to launch a full scale assault against them without fear of any possible repercussions. Basically, they won’t have anything left to blackmail us into leaving them alone.”
"I think you're missing another important detail, King Steel," Cadence spoke up?
"What?" He said, annoyed, "What is it this time?"
"The Crystal Empire doesn't condone slavery. In fact, it's illegal there, although we immediately deport any humans that we find within our territory," Cadence answered.
"Yeah, so?" He asked, still not understanding what she was getting at.
"So, the Empire would be the perfect target for the First Humans to use their world ender on," Cadence explained.
"Well, the Empire doesn't have to worry as well. You're probably even safer than the rest of us," King Steel Horn replied.
"What? And why is that?" Cadence asked, now confused.
"Because you don't enslave the humans," King Steel Horn replied.
"What? But, according to what you literally just said, slavery is the only thing that can - " she was cut off as King Steel began to explain his reasoning.
"They wouldn't even attack you with such ferocity in the first place. The knowledge of the First Humans had been passed down through generations of monarchs, and despite their extremely violent nature, my forefathers passed down a very specific detail. The First Humans are a fair and just society, which, although hypocritical, always punishes crime, and the severity of the punishment always match the severity of the crime, they have an 'eye for an eye' policy. Sometimes even 'two eyes for an eye'. Once they learn of the fate of their species, they will most definitely want vengeance against the rest of us. In fact, they will probably try their very best to leave you out of the war as a form of 'reward' for what they consider proper conduct," King Steel Horn explained.
"I… never thought of it that way," Cadence replied.
"Of course. You ponies hippogriffs, and changelings value peace and harmony above all else. The rest of us value strength. I'm not trying to offend you, but a pony would never match a minotaur in terms of military tactics and analysis," said King Steel Horn.
"Well, that I can agree with," Cadence replied.
"Well everycreature, I believe this meeting has gone on long enough and we have already gone through every possible scenario," King Talon said, "Now, since the First Humans have been found on Equestrian soil, I believe our course of action should be decided upon by Princess Celestial and Princess Luna since they have the final say on what we should do. So, princesses, could you come to a decision?"
"We already have," Luna replied. "We shall take King Steel Horn's advice on the matter. We will launch a surprise attack, and overwhelm them with our numbers."
"But Equestria cannot do this alone," Celestia took over, "This is a threat to all of us, and as such, I believe we need to make this a combined effort. So, who will join us, and put an end to the First Human menace once and for all?"
"Well, of course, the minotaurs will join you in your crusade. Frankly, we would've been offended if we weren't invited," King Steel Horn said with a chuckle.
"The Crystal Empire shall assist Equestria in this time of need, to put a stop to the First Humans once and for all," Cadence answered the call.
"The Dragons answer the call to action," Ember said simply.
"The changelings will not help in direct combat, but we will join the war and assist the Equestrian forces in terms of infiltration and information gathering," said Thorax.
"The yaks will not assist in the first assault, but we will assist if things escalate into a war," Prince Rutherford answered.
Then, there were a few more moments of silence, before Celestia finally broke it. "So, I assume the zebras, griffons, and hippogriffs will not be joining Equestria in the upcoming battle?" Celestia asked, and received confirmations from their respective leaders.
"Very well then, for the rest of you, ready your forces. We attack under the cover of the night!" Said Luna.
"Umm, how exactly are all of our forces gonna get here by tonight?" Ember asked.
"Well, I'm glad you asked," Celestia replied, "With the help… of… Discord..? Where is Discord?"
Well, unless things evolve into 'talking stuff out', we'll get right into the next set of awards: Graveyard postings! Because holy hell the rain of guts that is coming if no one stops this crap from escalating even more.
Would be fun to read, tho. I'll bring popcorn.
This is going to end poorly for Equestria and its allies. Also, this meeting is taking place in/near ponyville right?
I know utopia has an insurmountable edge in technology and humanity's innate sense of warfare but how is a single bunker going to triumph against the military forces of all of the planets armies without taking the planet with them?
Cant wait to see Equestria and its allies get utterly decimated. I'll get the snacks!
In the CIS there is a meme "CARRIAGE". So, I'm waiting for the CARVING IN THE NAME OF KHORN. And I'll bring with me Belarusian fried potatoes.
I've got popcorn in the microwave.
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The bunker is more of an underground city. As for the numbers game, keep in mind that every single species has no protection against small arms fire much less the bigger stuff. Plus, I don't think they have any real way of dealing with tanks, chemical weapons, and high altitude bombardment. Assuming that they make it that far since artillery is a thing.
Будет весело, если у людей будет царь бомба)))
Well there goes the "drums of war" because of bad experience with one group. They should just carefully approach peacefully/diplomatically first, but that does not seem to happen. Who knows after potential curb-stomp on humanitys favour.
And Discord is most likely posing as a goat to try and set up his "mAsTeR pLaN" for something IMO.
Ah, that's where you're wrong Cadance. Sure, only a few of the countries have nukes, but you fail to push a thought that those few countries may have more than a thousand nukes in their arsenal.
Don't be so sure minotaur, we might have to use those buggers like the Americans did to end a war. Not once but twice(sure, it's not thermonukes, but they're still nukes).
If you decided to go all-out war, your capital or biggest city can possibly be a target to end a war quickly. We've used it twice on our own kind, so I don't doubt that we'll use it on other kinds if we're pushed far enough to do so.
Think again, King Steel Horn
Excuse me?
First, she would need to lift these objects in the air in place, with is a lot of force, then launch them at high speed, with is also a lot of force.
Also while sprinting away for her life?
Do you see the problem here?
She is not a Twilight or Starlight
Hell even alicorn would need to focus on one thing or it would be shot down
Why the plot shield?
Also, the drones would need to fly slow and not maneuver at all to get hit like that.
Especially by big projectiles like that.
They would have sent a bunch of drones at the same time just to kill her at that point
Consider also that if she was able to throw something at drones,she would need to be somewhat close then that's mean's that the drones would have been able to shoot her.
At this point, it would have been better if you NoobMaster69 made it that she somehow fell into a cave and found an exit far way and then ran to Ponyivlle.
That would have made much more sense why she still lives.
And in the end that just justifies a nuke back.
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You got to give 'em some victories. The entire thing can't just be them spitting in the wind.
Besides, slamming a stout piece of lumber up a fan rotor is smart thinking for a primitive screw head.
Monk
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It's not that it's not possible to damage the drones.
The problem is who did it and when.
Also, she was also sprinting when doing so.
Consider also that if she was able to throw something at drones,she would need to be somewhat close then that's mean's that the drones would have been able to shoot her.
It's obvious plot shield
Running away from them is one thing, but shooting one down when she clearly doesn't have the capabilities to do so is another.
Since when has that ever worked historically against a stronger power
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https://m.Agreed, though don’t get a me wrong, a crushing defeat like “The Gate” would be entertaining. I do hope they manage to take down at least a few of the jets, if only as a last ditch effort to spit in the face of death.
While I enjoy a curbstomp, I’m really hoping we will see some politics. Maybe the Yaks are setting themselves up for a little leveraged negotiation. If the other races lose their forces in battle, it would leave them disadvantaged. I’m glad Rutherford isn’t the moron a lot of writers make him out to be in this story. Hopefully he’ll take advantage of this coming disaster.
I do hope Utopia tells them their terms, though purhaps they are waiting until after the bottle to talk. Destroying those army’s would send a powerful message.
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And that's why the Gryphons and Zebra said, "You first."
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This story has so many possibilities, that you have to be a master writer to weave them all into a single narrative. While I wouldn't trust the CIA to find its ass with both hands, they have the Russian, German, and Israeli spy agencies. They have also had plenty of time with several pony prisoners to gain info on other races and geopolitics in general. Besides, there is a major library in the center of the town. A town swarming with drones and bots of all types. Hell, the KGB has probably been reading / digitizing books there, since day 1.
It's more than reasonable to assume they could get a guy or micro drone to the changelings or to Cadence for talks.
Monk
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Answering the call of an ally doesn't justify a nuke, the fact that they are doing it to wipe out a civilization does. At this point, every single nation that answered the call is a hypocrite.
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From your perspective, they were hunting her down and she was running away. But in my head, it was more of her ambushing the drones that were in that area. I didn't write more on it because I didn't want to go too much into detail and make it like a full on battle scene. I left it mostly to the readers to figure out how she did that. But yeah, I can see where ur coming from, my take on it was just different.
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But drones still wouldn't need to fly close to the ground and slow to try to find her.
Drones can just fly high in the sky at high speeds and be fine with detecting things that way.
If they couldn't do that then they would be very bad military drones that no military would want to develop and use. They would just be easily shoot down by other nation's military.
Even outside the forest, why would they fly inside the forest or close to trees' crowns?
They would have just sent mini scout drones like before in Ponyville,find her and then the big drones would just shoot the spot where she is
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But they are still responsible for the enslavement of humans.
They just catch them and send them to others to enslave.
They just try to wash their hands/hooves from responsibility and consequences.
If humans will launch the nukes there won't be a counter-attack.
They have much more nukes
They have much stronger nukes
Because they never studied the effects of the explosion of the nuke they don't know about the radiation and its implications.
There are also ones that can destroy half of the planet.
Humans can choose between a normal nuke with radiation or a cold fusion one without radiation
And probably other types.
I mean I remember that there are drones equipped with nukes that can submerge in water so low that they can potentially drown islands, continents by shooting at their roots, tectonic plates
https://www.the-sun.com/news/1355149/putin-underwater-nuclear-poseidon-drone-testing/
Very Nice work with your stories and character designs with how they would act and the balance of the al the faction involved.
How are you going to manage the Plant of the Apes style humans will they join the other, know what is going on or seek the company of what they have known for 1000 years
I take it that when all the army's attack the First Humans, their will be a single super attack by the First Humans to destroy a small number of the attackers after a warning to stop and call for terms & then they will call for a meeting held in the Crystal Empire?
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I was responding to your comment. You are correct though, they may not actually allow it within their borders, but they are just as guilty if not even more so. The crystal ponies know what is like, yet they advocate for it when it isn't them.
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This is why Celestia/Luna, and the others are f******* morons!!!!!!!! They will shit themselves over the many nukes DESTROYING their own civilizations.
Humans: Is that a pitiful large army on the horizon? Hah! Now now, decisions are the be made. Do the bullets, missiles, ammunition, and fuel outweigh the price of one nuke? Or would it be more efficient to nuke them... Hmmm.
At this point, the humans would be like, "Oh no! An army! Annnnyways, what's the most efficient way of wiping them off the face of the planet? Pure artillery could work without the need for any combat vehicles or ammunition, but we'd be hard-pressed to get any sizeable force of artillery in position and ready with them moving in fast. Decisions decisions..."
Humans wouldn't even care about their incoming army with hostile intent, they would probably be more worried about the most efficient war to destroy the army because at that point it's just a declaration of war.
I mean, they could try and match an equally large force of aircraft, motorized, and infantry units to scare them away from forcing them to the negotiation tables, but with the assumption that the ponies have primitive knowledge of tech, they might not see a small force of vehicles and aircraft being as equal to, more than or greater to the power of their army and vast numbers.
I mean, they could mount a large amount of weaker units to try and scare the equestrians away, but then they'd have even more work to do moving all their units out and deploying them all that it'd be more efficient to do something else, not to mention if the equestrians attacked regardless, having their forces spread into smaller units, it allows them to be defeated in detail(aka divide and conquor), despite having greater overall power.
Also, does anyone find it sad at this point I'm just looking at the most efficient war of destroying the army without a hint of caring that there is a hostile army there?
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Yeah! The ponies and any other races are just pathetic!
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That makes them the most hypocritical a-holes in human history. If the union of humanity finds out about the Crystal Empire's history of King Sombra enslaving them in the past. And despite that, they still allow slavery to happened everywhere, with human slaves no less??!!
Yep, that will just piss off everybody in here, and we will just say "F*** it", and NUKED the Crystal Empire to the ground, and then Equestria. Their is NO HOPE to try to convince these hypocritical morons of the century.
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tbh, The humans might see it as not murdering their own kind... But... Putting them out of their misery. So the only areas I see getting nuked are those with bad human care because, at some point, it might be better to end them than let the humans continue to suffer.
Sad? Yes. Necessary? Debatable. Moral? Also debated able when you take into the full scope of the war, as you then have to weigh the value of lives, the cost of using nuclear weapons, and the full scope of causing a world war. With Utopia made up of many nations, it might as well be WW3, with... uhh... Well... You already know what's going to happen.
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Gotta add, today, airlines can fly even when an engine is gone, so the drones themselves probably have the same redundancy.
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Well, answering the calls of their allies is how WW1 started. And in WW2, one illegal declaration of war and surprise attack, four US carriers down, and invasion of the US's allies was enough for the US to use nukes.
Two bombs later
WW2 ended. But yes, I'll have to agree with you in the way that that it deserves punishment, but I'm hoping leniency is shown to the Crystal Empire at least.
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I don't have high hopes for that. Shining Armor is usually written as a massive Pony Elitist who has no trust or respect for other races or species. An equestrian supremacist. His most common depiction is to the point of rivaling the Nazis.
While Cadence would be fine, I doubt humans would be fine with him constantly giving them the evil eye.
Of course, this Author might portray Shiny Heiny differently.
Monk
Well, Cadance should have stayed neutral. The Crystal Empire was gone for a while, they can disappear again while this shitshow happens.
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Huh, I never thought of it that way. But, that depends on the treatment of slaves which varies for each slave owner. One can be cruel and the other can be sympathetic, I'm sure if the news can be twisted into making the Utopian populace think that ALL slaves have been treated horribly and to launch a nuclear strike on them to end their misery, that is a somewhat justifiable decision but I don't think that the Utopian govt. will use it as a first choice strategy instead as a last resort if all else fails to talk the non-humans down to engage in a war with them.
Maybe the better choice is to map all the institutions and establishments that have slaves and send Apaches or F-35s to destroy it and try to free the human slaves. After all, it's a lot better to try than to jump straight into nukes and it makes the use of a nuclear strike much more justifiable if the plan fails, like "hey, uh since we can't free them, I guess we can put them out of their misery by launching a nuclear strike.".
Though I kinda feel bad if Crystal Empire becomes a target of a massive strategic bombing campaign like what the US did to Nazi Germany but with napalm and phosphorus or worse, a nuclear strike. Then again, they did brought this upon them selves by joining the Equestrians and they weren't against slavery practiced in other countries since Cadance was raised by Celestia who sees nothing wrong with slavery and she abolishes slavery in the Crystal Empires just because the whole population is traumatised by it. I just don't want the humans to assume that all the nations in Equus practiced slavery.
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Finally someone else sees the fucking point. I've been saying that the ponies especially the Sparkle siblings are like Nazi enforcers of Equestria while Celestia & Luna are the Stalin, Kim Jung un, & Hitler.
GENOCIDEEEEEE
When Utopia will decide to be more mobile I hope that they will build something like Helicarrier (Marvel )or Avenger (XCOM 2)
But heavily armed
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Thought Avenger looks like is smaller than Helicarier so building something like it can work as an additional vessel
But good ideas are here in this video
Invent anty gravity engines or something like that to make it much easier to defeat gravity and you have it
Well, it's official. Equestria is srewed. Badly.
In the upcoming battle, Utopians don't even need to use really powerful weapons. The main thing is to break the fighting spirit of the Equestrians and make them run. Considering that ponies have something similar to the army of the early Middle Ages, with numbers, with technological superiority (weapons, machine guns, tanks, etc.) and air support, this will be very easy to do.
Plus, people have time to prepare for battle: to place antipersonnel mines, prepare equipment, make up different tactics, etc.
Although I hope that there will be no order "not to take prisoners", as they can be shown the better way and re-educated. And if you're lucky, then make them agents. No matter how saturated with slavery Equestria, there will always be opponents of the system inside. You just need to send possible agents, coordinate their actions, give supplies and this can become a good ground for an rebellion or even a revolution, which in a future war can create a second front and accelerate the fall of Equestria.
And like always:
Princesses underestimate the power and numbers of humans
King Steel Horn is just a fool who wants a battle
King Talon is actually the only competent here. The only one who inspires sympathy/respect.
And with this one decision, you have doomed your entire nation. Had you offered the olive branch, even once, you could've coexisted, but noooo, you just HAD to try enslaving them. An action that is just about the least harmonious thing anyone could do. Such is the way moral nations fall: by turning their backs on said morality for any reason.
Now, let's see who else you're dragging into oblivion with you...
Minotaur, no big surprise.
Crystal Empire, you just threw away your moral protection.
Dragons, you're about to discover that no amount of scales and fire can touch our weaponry.
Changelings, don't think you're protecting yourselves by sticking to subterfuge.
Yaks, you still have a chance.
Everyone else, you're safe as long as you don't change your current decision.
And don't expect Discord to be able to assist this time... Not only are these humans innocent, unlike the previous battle, but providence has deigned to grant us our own Chaos noodle this time.
Binging this story is like junk food, or opening a time-capsule from the early days of FiMfic. It's so overly gratuitous and indulgent in glorifying humans, it's almost half as good as The Room
XD
Oh yes
A soldier with no equipment, armor, weapons, ID, rank, and no knowledge of procedures and even temporary multiple access codes that change after some time, either after some minutes or hours, or days.With also no knowledge of earth before the flood.
Probably also with the cheap, wrong material and color, and inaccurate uniforms and equipment, thanks to their changeling illusion, disguise
Especially if they will want to do a fast blood id security check(where for example you put your thumb to a panel and it takes your blood to check you), or eyes security check or face recognition, etc
Changelings will be the most useless.
You cant infiltrate someone whose species has that long and forgotten history
Discord could only do that thanks to plot armor and that it was just a company not a professional army of nations
Are these guys idiots? No, really. Do they not read read after action reports, are there no battlefield analytics, do they not review battlefield communications?
How can they be this stupid? The only excuse is that they get the reports and react like a pissed off Tony Stark.
"Wait, Celestia! We need a plan of attack!"
Celestia: "I have a plan: attack!"
I have a question, why is everyone so motivated to keep slavery? And don't bring up the CSA because Equestrians tend to behave more differently
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There are numerous reasons.
- The population at large has been taught that humans are bad. Over the centuries since the War with the Vega Corporation (in which over a hundred thousand surface humans joined forces with the 3,000 company men), racism was allowed to fester, with humans being thought of as savages who would return to their savage ways if they were ever let go. It also seems clear that the national leadership, while retaining the true history of the Vega War, has hidden or downplayed certain elements of it to the public at large, so the idea of humans being equal, and indeed having a society to surpass their own, is extremely offensive. This hiding of the true history, in addition to the built-up racism, is why they couldn't accept the idea of an independent human state, or of that state having the right to send a diplomat.
- The recent uprising in Manehatten, in which hundreds of ponies died, is considered proof of human barbarity. I also get the idea that this kind of slave revolt was not the first, even if it hasn't been mentioned. As such, they're seen as barbarians; freedom, in the eyes of the slaveholders, would mean letting savages go to to kill more people. The idea that humans are rebelling for their freedom either doesn't enter their minds, or is considered rebelling against what the other species consider a just punishment for the Vega War and slave rebellions since that conflict.
- Getting rid of slavery would upset the economic system. With an entire species enslaved globally, letting them go would mean that employers used to slave labor would have to pay members of a previous enslaved species who they'd be needing to treat as equals after centuries of believing in human barbarism and that humans are naturally inferior to other species.
- The cultural impact of just freeing all slaves, even if it was just one country (say, Equestria), would be enormous. Millions of ponies would be forced to deal with their former slaves as equals, as people having rights, all of which they're used to denying them. The constant racial conflict would jeopardize the stability of any nation that set its slaves free. In the eyes of many, even those who otherwise despise slavery, its better to keep humans enslaved than to upset the social, economic, and political balance.
- Letting their slaves go after a recent attack by another group of "First Humans" would be seen as weakness by the national leadership, nobility, common folk, and, most importantly, the slaves themselves. It's easier to try to wipe out Utopia (with the ignorance of how powerful the latter is) than let Utopia, and humans in general, get "uppity."
- The Vega Corporation experience, and the deaths of the Guards in Ponyville and elsewhere, only reinforced the idea that the "First Humans" are all evil. As such, for them negotiation is out of the question, because (from the other species point of view) these new humans are simply copies of the Vega Corporation, and would try to steal magic or pull off some kind of treachery. In addition, they made it clear in the Ponyville incident that they don't take kindly to humans being slaves, and as such they'd likely try and free them for a second round of the Vega War. Even if these new humans are willing to be peaceful, the fact that humans are slaves on the surface means that this would color every negotiation that the two sides tried, with racial views coming into it. Conflict would be extremely likely anyway, if not inevitable, which I almost think it would be even if the leaders had chosen a peaceful rather than military solution. For the leaders, who are smart enough to see that their humans slaves could be indoctrinated (not that they'd need it to want their freedom), negotiations would just be putting the war off, and that putting off would be to the humans' advantage.
- Misconception of Utopian power. Despite the advanced tech the Utopians have, the various national leaders think that this is just a bunker similar to the one they faced before; they believe it could be rough, but that they'll win in the end. They have no idea that the society they're facing has 400,000 people, with a massive percentage of those (160,000, was it?) being military.
- As I've mentioned before, though I do so one more time to illustrate the point, keeping things the way they are is just easier than making changes.
These might be some, though probably not all, of the reasons why the other species are determined to keep slavery.
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Jesus Christ dude that filled my entire phone screen
Should be changed to
Just sounds more like him, referring to himself in the third person and using terrible grammar
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i prefer that he doesnt sound dumb as hell
Its funny back in May I posted a form throwing out a story idea I had that's vaguely similar to this one. Happy coincidence indeed. Can't wait to see where the story goes.
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After having read through this story it reminds me a lot of this video on the Necrons
this whole speech could fit rather well into this story with some (large) tweaks actually.
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The hunting drones they sent were the helicopter type drones, not the big ones. And they weren't trying to kill her, they were trying to tranquilize her and capture her, it'll all be mentioned tomorrow. And assuming it was a moderately thick forest, it would be extremely difficult to spot her among the trees if they were to do aerial reconnaissance.
Now, I know your counterargument is gonna be thermal imaging, but thermal imaging can't see through forest canopies. Well, it can, but it's very hard to pick out a distinct heat signature, so she could easily be missed. And AI's are programmed to detect the shapes of human heat signatures, not horse.
Finally found this the moment I read A call to action chapter I thought of this
Celestia: Our military completely equipped to handle the First Humans
Later Celestia: We attacked one diplomat they dropped the sun on us more times than we have cities