Sombra, at least according to the recent comic, never wanted to be a monster. Truly he just wanted to live a normal life, but because he was a Umbrean in a crystal pony world he was mocked and was literally dying. If you think about it, he really isn't a villain. What would you do if you knew that you, your family, and your entire race was slowly dying because of a celebration. This will be very interesting seeing your take on Silhouette.
I would imagine that Dusk snaps in the end and forcefully claims them or rapes them back. There is only so much a being can take of one thing before they get different thoughts. And with his magical reserves it wouldn't be to far fetched.
Don't worry, Dusk. As long as you say nothing about Brilliant Faith and how Silhouette screwed him over, there's little to no possibility of her killing you.
5851737 Heh, yeah. Imagine if this is slightly before Tirek (Lord, Lady, it's your interpretation) returns, and then the princesses give Dusk their powers. Then he'd be all like "Yes, I know exactly what I'm going to do." Then, using the OP powers of the other 3 princesses, he finds each villain that's given him hell, and gives them DIVINE RETRIBUTION... whether it be through imprisonment, claiming, or anything else. Kind of like Corruption of Champions, where YOU get to choose what you want to do.
5852732 You say that like the comics have value. I admit, they do bring up some interesting points of potential lore that are fun to talk about... but the actual stories themselves are... poorly executed. Hence why I read fanfiction.
5853865 I dunno. Sure, Tirek's backstory wasn't TOO interesting... except for that one thing, but Sombra's backstory s quite possibly the best I could've hoped for.
5853446 I DIDN"T!!!! >< DarthVendar SPOILED IT FOR ME IN THE COMMENTS! YOU SON OF A MULE!
5853865 To me the comics do hold value and they were the only pony things to focus on during the near year long hiatus. I love the comics and it sort of expands the world of MLP, even if its not cannon. I also do fanfiction but I prefer directly from the artists and the creators themselves than fanfic if I want source material.
5854465 I have both and you are right. Don't like Tirek's but liked Sombra's... it was sad and sorta reminded me of Star Wars Revenge of the Sith you know?............ Except without all the bad acting ()
5854812 You know, whenever this story ends, I can already think of a title name for a sequel: 4(+) TERTIARY Villainesses vs. Dusk Shine. It would involve characters that are villains, but not TOO much of a threat, like Trixie, Gilda, Shim and Sham, the list goes on.
5855142 Too many, this was or is a one time deal with Dusk and villainesses. Next book might have him settle and move onto become Prince or something haven't planned to far ahead.
5854465 Except it contains an enormous logical fallacy: if Sombra was "born evil," then he should have been incapable of forming a friendship with the filly whose name I forget. See, that friendship, and his desire to not be consumed by darkness? That is Innocence, and Empathy, things an evil being would be unable to comprehend, much less practice. And this is assuming "evil" is a state of being applied from birth, rather than the result of your own choices and mindset. Also, he's a pony version of a race of sentient talking rocks. Not even golems, but literal crystaline formations. How that's supposed to work, I don't even know.
However, part of this could be attributed to narrator bias; the tale's being told from Sombra's diary, after all. If those red crystals were similar to red lyrium, thus driving people using their power more and more deranged, then the story makes more sense as the rambling of someone who is not of sound mind. And would also explain a lot if this type of crystal was used in the creation of the alicorn amulet...
5854812 Ah. As non-canon source material, then yes, they have some worldbuilding value. Still doesn't excuse plots so cliche it hurts, wasted potential, and the ludicrous number of idiot balls handed out to force the chosen plot, but it's something. The early comics were actually really good. It's just that the quality of more recent ones have nose-dived.
5858400 ... Tell me: Have you ever looked at a COIN before? Yes, I realize it may look rather simple, but trust me, there's more to it than meets the eye. If you look at a coin one way, you can see one side of it. If you flip it over, then a second side becomes apparent. However, what some people forget that there's another side to the coin itself. If you turn it just so, perpendicular to a surface of 0 inclination, then you will find that a coin has not one, not too, not three, but infinity sides. It may seem laughable at first, but once you take the time to truly understand it, the coin is not as simple as you once thought it was. The same can be said of the huma- sentient condition. if one merely glimpses at a figure, they assume the worst at a first impression. However,the truth of the matter is that people do things for complex reasons, reasons we are unable to understand. A highschooler with a 4.0 gpa may flunk college because they are generally a lazy person. A thief may take his victim to a hospital if they happen to have a heart-attack. A Giant Lizard may fight down a Giant Moth simply because it s threatening its territory. In short, no matter how basic someone may appear to be, there may be a deeper meaning to the things that they do, because any sentient is three-dimensional, no matter how two-dimensional... TL;DR Just because Sombra had Innocence and Empathy, doesn't mean it still can't be evil!
5858452 Ah, I apologize. I wasn't clear. Yes, Sombra would still have the potential for evil... But so does anyone. My point was that, if he was born purely evil, then such things as friendship would not interest him. The fact that he was would imply that there was potential for good in him as well. Which would make the crystal heart deeming him a threat and hurting him rather unjustified. There is a possibility that the CH was devised as a weapon against his kind... In which case the princess would be an unbelievably oblivious idiot for thinking that keeping him near the thing constantly trying to kill him, rather than send him down to the two princesses who beat Discord for tutelage in a place he could be happy.
My point is, the catalyst for his turning evil came from the CH trying to kill him. If the CH had not been trying to kill him, he likely would not have turned evil. So why was the CH trying to kill him? Because he's 'evil.' ...can you see the issue said logic creates?
5858491 Well... it seemed to me like the CH went after him merely because he was a shadow pony. And he wasn't evil in the beginning because he was "amnesiac", for lack of a better term... well, that's my theory, anyway. As for Princess Amore... she just fcked up.
5858513 Perhaps that was part of it. Personally, I think the personality change after meeting the Red-Lyrium-Cameo was too sudden to be natural. Take the comparison to Revenge of the Sith here 5854812 and compare Anakin to Sombra. Anakin has a history of giving in to his own desires in spite of the consequences, and a nasty temper. Every time he encounters a conflict between doing what he wants and doing what's best, he always chose what he wanted. His bursts of anger, the aforementioned tendecies... They are not evil, but they made it easy for him to be manipulated into going to the dark side. Sombra has no such conflicts; young sombra doesn't show a temper, or any selfish desires other than wanting to be part of the group. The way he jumps to murdering the princess, trying to force his friend to be his wife, a sudden desire to rule... They are two completely different characters. I believe this lends credence to the idea that the red crystal was screwing with his mind.
“Hmm… you smell of fresh lilacs and…” she grinned. “A bit of a chaotic and nightly blend.”
She jelly.
The cave filled with laughter as Spike and four changeling Nymphs continued to fool around with different disguises. Spike was crying tears while the other changelings were laughing hysterically.
I was expecting Spike to be forced into Changeling V too, but it's not the case. Poor bastard.
“You know, I never knew that unicorns could fly
I've seen Littlepip levitate herself.
Changeling anatomy was almost similar to ponies with subtle differences.
I think Changelings ARE a breed of pony.
They were like any mare lips but had a Aqua blue color and her fluid that were dripping from her were greenish white.
The only lips he's seen up close though have been in the last day, right?
Dusk was utterly horrified and utterly turned on… he didn’t know what was worst.
What's to be scared of? He's been raped twice lately, and no harm done.
Almost as if to make the situation weirder, two almost black, inner mandibles from within her vagina had appeared from the side of her walls.
This is going to get interesting.
For a changeling, she smelled of ponds by the woods and a sweet flower that he couldn’t put his hoof on.
... ... ...That sounds quiet lovely.
his muzzle trying to let his tongue out more but was almost impossible with it being almost completely in the queen’s tight walls.
Is...she a virgin? Goodness, and I was hoping she would compare him to Shining.
There wasn’t an inch of his body missed and the room reeked of smelled of a forest that contained the smell of animals having sex.
Oh, he's gonna get Fluttershy when she smells this.
“Nope! No way, no how am I cleaning this up! I have already mopped the floor four times this week and dealt with your sex stuff long enough. You clean this up.”
Sounds reasonable.
From a window, a dark shadow watched as Dusk solemnly clean the floor with such sadness.
I'm hoping she has real sex with him, and ends up being clingy and jealous of the other; villainesses and Main 6.
From a window, a dark shadow watched as Dusk solemnly clean the floor with such sadness. The shadow watched as the one pony who might have cared for it, was saddened by this situation. A tug at its heart, suggested that maybe seeing him miserable wasn’t something worth watching over and over again.
The shadow thing must be stupid or something, it's most definitely worth watching him be miserable
i like the idea of Chrysalis having dusks babies
IT'S ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sombra, at least according to the recent comic, never wanted to be a monster. Truly he just wanted to live a normal life, but because he was a Umbrean in a crystal pony world he was mocked and was literally dying. If you think about it, he really isn't a villain. What would you do if you knew that you, your family, and your entire race was slowly dying because of a celebration. This will be very interesting seeing your take on Silhouette.
I would imagine that Dusk snaps in the end and forcefully claims them or rapes them back. There is only so much a being can take of one thing before they get different thoughts. And with his magical reserves it wouldn't be to far fetched.
Poor Dusk. Any second now, he's going to snap. And four villanesses aren't going to be able to stop him.
She got that blue waffle!
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Don't worry, Dusk. As long as you say nothing about Brilliant Faith and how Silhouette screwed him over, there's little to no possibility of her killing you.
5851737 Heh, yeah. Imagine if this is slightly before Tirek (Lord, Lady, it's your interpretation) returns, and then the princesses give Dusk their powers. Then he'd be all like "Yes, I know exactly what I'm going to do." Then, using the OP powers of the other 3 princesses, he finds each villain that's given him hell, and gives them DIVINE RETRIBUTION... whether it be through imprisonment, claiming, or anything else. Kind of like Corruption of Champions, where YOU get to choose what you want to do.
OMG! Thats should have scared dusk about sicovering THAT of the queen
An update? What is this a fake video?
Make sure not to end it too soon. I like long stories... gives me Nightmare(s)
(Badum Tiss) Yeah.... no I get it very bad joke. I will go to the closet of shame now.
5851737
5852224
You are right. Dusk is going to snap, and then, HELL will rise in Equestria and They will not be able to stop him.
5851629 YOU SIR JUST RUINED THE COMICS FOR ME!!!!!!!!!
5852732
oops....
5852732
if you want i can link you to a video off the entire comic
5852732
THEN WHY DID YOU READ WHAT WAS COVERED IN SPOILERS...DUMBARSE
5852732
You say that like the comics have value.
I admit, they do bring up some interesting points of potential lore that are fun to talk about... but the actual stories themselves are... poorly executed.
Hence why I read fanfiction.
5853865 I dunno. Sure, Tirek's backstory wasn't TOO interesting... except for that one thing, but Sombra's backstory s quite possibly the best I could've hoped for.
5853446 I DIDN"T!!!! >< DarthVendar SPOILED IT FOR ME IN THE COMMENTS! YOU SON OF A MULE!
5853865 To me the comics do hold value and they were the only pony things to focus on during the near year long hiatus. I love the comics and it sort of expands the world of MLP, even if its not cannon. I also do fanfiction but I prefer directly from the artists and the creators themselves than fanfic if I want source material.
5854465 I have both and you are right. Don't like Tirek's but liked Sombra's... it was sad and sorta reminded me of Star Wars Revenge of the Sith you know?............ Except without all the bad acting ()
5854812 You know, whenever this story ends, I can already think of a title name for a sequel: 4(+) TERTIARY Villainesses vs. Dusk Shine. It would involve characters that are villains, but not TOO much of a threat, like Trixie, Gilda, Shim and Sham, the list goes on.
That scene with Spike had me laughing.
5855142 Too many, this was or is a one time deal with Dusk and villainesses. Next book might have him settle and move onto become Prince or something haven't planned to far ahead.
oh my such a messy colt he is
cant wait to see him make his herd out of all the villains! XD
you know thats how its going to end! XD
5854812
YES YOU DID
5855475 It's cool, it's cool, just goofing around.
5854465
Except it contains an enormous logical fallacy: if Sombra was "born evil," then he should have been incapable of forming a friendship with the filly whose name I forget. See, that friendship, and his desire to not be consumed by darkness? That is Innocence, and Empathy, things an evil being would be unable to comprehend, much less practice.
And this is assuming "evil" is a state of being applied from birth, rather than the result of your own choices and mindset.
Also, he's a pony version of a race of sentient talking rocks. Not even golems, but literal crystaline formations. How that's supposed to work, I don't even know.
However, part of this could be attributed to narrator bias; the tale's being told from Sombra's diary, after all. If those red crystals were similar to red lyrium, thus driving people using their power more and more deranged, then the story makes more sense as the rambling of someone who is not of sound mind. And would also explain a lot if this type of crystal was used in the creation of the alicorn amulet...
5854812
Ah. As non-canon source material, then yes, they have some worldbuilding value. Still doesn't excuse plots so cliche it hurts, wasted potential, and the ludicrous number of idiot balls handed out to force the chosen plot, but it's something.
The early comics were actually really good. It's just that the quality of more recent ones have nose-dived.
5858400 ... Tell me: Have you ever looked at a COIN before? Yes, I realize it may look rather simple, but trust me, there's more to it than meets the eye. If you look at a coin one way, you can see one side of it. If you flip it over, then a second side becomes apparent. However, what some people forget that there's another side to the coin itself. If you turn it just so, perpendicular to a surface of 0 inclination, then you will find that a coin has not one, not too, not three, but infinity sides. It may seem laughable at first, but once you take the time to truly understand it, the coin is not as simple as you once thought it was.
The same can be said of the huma- sentient condition. if one merely glimpses at a figure, they assume the worst at a first impression. However,the truth of the matter is that people do things for complex reasons, reasons we are unable to understand. A highschooler with a 4.0 gpa may flunk college because they are generally a lazy person. A thief may take his victim to a hospital if they happen to have a heart-attack. A Giant Lizard may fight down a Giant Moth simply because it s threatening its territory. In short, no matter how basic someone may appear to be, there may be a deeper meaning to the things that they do, because any sentient is three-dimensional, no matter how two-dimensional...
TL;DR Just because Sombra had Innocence and Empathy, doesn't mean it still can't be evil!
5858452
Ah, I apologize. I wasn't clear. Yes, Sombra would still have the potential for evil... But so does anyone. My point was that, if he was born purely evil, then such things as friendship would not interest him. The fact that he was would imply that there was potential for good in him as well. Which would make the crystal heart deeming him a threat and hurting him rather unjustified.
There is a possibility that the CH was devised as a weapon against his kind... In which case the princess would be an unbelievably oblivious idiot for thinking that keeping him near the thing constantly trying to kill him, rather than send him down to the two princesses who beat Discord for tutelage in a place he could be happy.
My point is, the catalyst for his turning evil came from the CH trying to kill him. If the CH had not been trying to kill him, he likely would not have turned evil. So why was the CH trying to kill him? Because he's 'evil.'
...can you see the issue said logic creates?
5858491 Well... it seemed to me like the CH went after him merely because he was a shadow pony. And he wasn't evil in the beginning because he was "amnesiac", for lack of a better term... well, that's my theory, anyway.
As for Princess Amore... she just fcked up.
5858513
Perhaps that was part of it. Personally, I think the personality change after meeting the Red-Lyrium-Cameo was too sudden to be natural.
Take the comparison to Revenge of the Sith here 5854812 and compare Anakin to Sombra. Anakin has a history of giving in to his own desires in spite of the consequences, and a nasty temper. Every time he encounters a conflict between doing what he wants and doing what's best, he always chose what he wanted. His bursts of anger, the aforementioned tendecies... They are not evil, but they made it easy for him to be manipulated into going to the dark side.
Sombra has no such conflicts; young sombra doesn't show a temper, or any selfish desires other than wanting to be part of the group. The way he jumps to murdering the princess, trying to force his friend to be his wife, a sudden desire to rule... They are two completely different characters. I believe this lends credence to the idea that the red crystal was screwing with his mind.
I ship dusk x nightmare moon FOREVA!
She jelly.
I was expecting Spike to be forced into Changeling V too, but it's not the case. Poor bastard.
I've seen Littlepip levitate herself.
I think Changelings ARE a breed of pony.
The only lips he's seen up close though have been in the last day, right?
What's to be scared of? He's been raped twice lately, and no harm done.
This is going to get interesting.
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...That sounds quiet lovely.
Is...she a virgin? Goodness, and I was hoping she would compare him to Shining.
Oh, he's gonna get Fluttershy when she smells this.
Sounds reasonable.
I'm hoping she has real sex with him, and ends up being clingy and jealous of the other; villainesses and Main 6.
5893866 I am glad somepony notices the small aspects of the story instead of the whole.
*stomps "hooves" for more* MORE!!!! :D
Whooop! Update! Can't wait for the next chapter.
Well now we know Changelings are related to xenomorphs (aliens)
4642241 Yea, he's definitely screwed, but that might not be such a bad thing...
Cuntdibles!
Not bad, but there are some mistakes here and there.
If you want, I could edit this chapter.
The shadow thing must be stupid or something, it's most definitely worth watching him be miserable