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PSA: Don't Write Clopfics for This Guy · 4:20am Sep 26th, 2016

There's a guy going around asking for people to write him clop, and here's why you should not do that.


A few days ago, I was contacted by a user asking for me to write him a clopfic of his OC having sex with his girlfriend's OC. I was fine with that, up until the point where he said he had no money but he would pay me double if he could. :ajbemused: (Screenshot below) Furthermore, the horrible grammar made me think that he was pretty young, so I asked if he was under 18, the legal age to have sex in the US, aaaaaand he admitted that he, bronypony880, is in fact, only 15 years old, and he's going around asking as many people as he can to write him clopfics or draw him art for free.

Don't do this. (I'm referring to two things: Don't go around asking for free stuff from a lot of people at once, AND don't ever write porn for a minor, which should be common sense.)

If the authorities found out, anyone who wrote a clopfic for this guy could most likely be charged with "Corrupting a Minor", so I obviously said no. Having a charge like that could really fuck up your life, especially if you're just finishing high school or college. I made this blog so others do not make that mistake, because it is a hell of a lot better to be safe than sorry.

In this screenshot, you can see that he admits that he's underage:


Proof he's asking for me to write erotica for himself, a minor:


And when I told him to fuck off after he insulted me, he sent me another message threatening to get a picture of Nightshine, my adorable and favorite bat pony OC, being "brutally tortured to death," all because he didn't get his way.


Naturally, I cannot stop minors from reading the clopfics that I write. I know I can't get in legal trouble for that, but intentionally writing porn for a minor while knowing their age is completely different. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to write porn for a minor, and I pray that this kid will come to his senses and stop trying to get as many people as he can to write and draw him free stuff.

With the way he treated me, I don't see any reason for you to do anything for this guy.:moustache:

EDIT: Well, the guy has been banned.

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Comments ( 133 )

For fuck's sake.:facehoof: People like this are one of the reasons the internet can be terrifying, and the only reason he's this bold is because everything is anonymous. I can practically guarantee he wouldn't pull this shit with whoever his guardian is.

Sigh... Kids on the Internet these days. :ajbemused:

Okay, it's immature, self-absorbed twits like this that made high school a waking nightmare.

And I apologize for using such obscene language.

I just ignored him. I'm rude, but now I have no regrets. :rainbowwild:

4227273 I was nice at first, but when he realized that I wasn't going to do anything for him, he became a little... unsettled.

Is it sad that when I saw the title I thought you were gonna talk about me

Yeah, I got hit up by the guys as well. Didn't even consider it as I don't really do commissions anyways. Good thing too, apparently.

Wait, this was also the guy who threatened your OC? That's awesome!

4227279 Lol, you're fine. You messaged me over half a year ago, so why would I ever bring it up now? :P

Besides, you didn't threaten me to get a pic of my OC being tortured to death. XP

4227283 Yeah, it's the same guy.

4227284 still I honestly started to feel a bit Suicidal after asking so many people tp write that kind of story and getting made fun of as a response.

4227286 I went to the guys page and he has a blog asking for requests so I commented saying and I quote
"NOBODY DO THIS HE IS UNDERAGE"

4227289 Well, it's kinda like begging for change on the street. Sometimes you might get someone to give you a little bit of change, while others might give you a lot of money. Asking random people to write you a story will most likely lead to getting a negative response, and there's nothing wrong in asking people to write you something. It's how you ask, you know?

Also, why not try writing something for yourself? All it takes is 1k words, and that's not that much if you think about it, especially if you write 100 words a day for 10 days. Fimfiction has a great writing guide, found here: http://www.fimfiction.net/writing-guide, and if you read some books and see how they structure their stuff, you can easily get some cool stuff published here.

And who knows? You could make it to the New York Times bestseller's list in time. All it takes is practice. :pinkiehappy:

4227299 I have started to write a story also read my previous comment
4227297

I actually never thought of the idea that writing clop fics for minors was illegal.

I am 26... I don't look like it, but i could get in a lot of trouble should I do this. Reading it and writing it are two different things. I still find shit like this funny.... (I notice you are the cause of this Schadenfreude with these blogs you do.... Why are you doing this to me :rainbowlaugh:)

I have gotten into Bat Ponies recently and now I am worried over seeing her tortured... That's also blackmail if you think about it...

But yeah, I don't have the skill to write anyone a clop story (nor the sanity) but this is just funny... Why is it that this shit always happens to you... and I find half of it entertaining!

He...threatened your OC? I'm not really sure what to say to that. Huh. Well, I suppose it's not the most bizarre attempt to threaten someone that I've ever heard.

4227306 It's totally blackmail.

4227302

Pornographic literature is still pornography. And giving pornography to minors doesn't tend to go over well.

While I wasn't personally hit up by this guy, probably in part to me never writing anything above a 'teen' rating (at least currently) and I'm not popular anyway, it makes me kinda glad I don't do 'mature' requests, and I'm not open to commissions at least for the time being.

On a sidenote, did this guy ever mention if he has any account on any art-based site? I'm curious since, I did open myself to doing art requests more than a year ago (and admittingly, I still have two that needs to get done) and I had an individual ask for a request with multiple characters and it was suppose to be borderline suggestive, at least in my opinion it was, and it's making me curious if it's the same individual.

4227311

The way you say that implies that there could be a time when it could go over well. I know what you mean, I am just taking what you say literally and nitpicking it...

4227314

Well, I'm working under the assumption that - as with any type of illegal activity - there are going to be cases where people do it and don't get caught.

Oh wow this guy hit me up, asked me to write for him, didn't ask for money which put me off (normally i have to tell them I'll do it pro bono as it were)

he sent me a picture and detailed list and everything. Never mentioned his age either.

glad i got this, hadn't started writing it yet, will cancel and block him

I got hit up by this guy, too. Left after I told him flat out I didn't do Mature anymore, or requests.

which should be common sense

Well, common sense isn't exactly common.

4227311 Actually, pornography is defined as sexually explicit images. In literature it's called erotica. Though I do agree it's incredibly irresponsible to make it for minors, and anyone caught doing so should be banned from the site, it's not quite as bad as giving them actual porn.

4227335 It's still pretty similar, but yeah, I know what you mean.

Damn...:rainbowderp:

I'm glad that i haven't met this person.

What he said about torturing your OC, goes so very much against my moral alingment.:twilightangry2::ajbemused:

And i hate that kinda stuff:ajbemused:

wow, what an ass xDDDDDD

and if he so much as touches a hair on our little nightshine I will personally throw him in a rancor pit

Well thank you for putting this one out there, a part of me was considering accepting... (Although I probably wouldn't have the last thing I want is to enable begging random people for art / writing)

Given his age, he probably thinks he can request/demand, say or do anything with little or no consequence for his actions.

Under the circumstances, you have done a service for the fimfiction community Abyss.

Kind Regards,

4227361 I believe that would qualify as cruel and unusual punishment. I mean, think of what that would do to the poor Rancor!

4227335

Actually, no, it isn't. Pornography isn't defined as sexually explicit images, nor is erotica defined as sexually explicit literature.

Pornography:
1: the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement
2: material (as books or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement
3: the depiction of acts in a sensational manner so as to arouse a quick intense emotional reaction <the pornography of violence>

Erotica:
1: literary or artistic works having an erotic theme or quality
2: depictions of things erotic


The distinction between "erotica" and "pornography" has nothing to do with the medium through which it's presented. The distinction comes with the nature of the material's contents. Pornography is material intended specifically to elicit sexual arousal, with little or no other purpose. Erotica is material intended to tell a story involving sexual themes, and in which those sexual themes are typically secondary to the plot. A coming-of-age story about a young woman in college that contains detailed depictions of sexual acts as one aspect of the overall story would be classified as erotica, regardless of whether it was told in a film, novel, comic book, or any other form of media. Likewise, a story about a girl getting in a wild orgy with no other plot or story would be classified as pornography, regardless of whether it was told in a film, novel, comic book, or any other form of media.

4227373 Only to sexually repressed prudes. There is no way any reasonable person would ever consider words describing sex as the same as actual images of the act.

4227370 omg that made my day! that's hysterical. Yes maybe not the rancor pit...how about...discord? I'm sure he would have fun with this one?...or maybe we just banish him to the moon and be done with it xDDD

4227308 It is blackmail and blackmail is illegal no matter what it is.

Fer fukk's sake. Thankfully, I've never had to deal w/ this part of the fandom. Hopefully, I never will.

4227379

It's curious how, when given objective proof that explicitly contradicts your standpoint, you suddenly drop the "this is how it's defined" defense that you were relying on in favor of claiming that anyone who disagrees with your (objectively false) definitions is unreasonable and prudish. Suggestion for the future: Don't try to use definitions as a defense when you clearly haven't actually read the definitions, know nothing about laws related to the terms, and/or are obviously unfamiliar with how the terms are distinguished in modern art culture.

Regardless, your personal opinion on whether or not it's reasonable is irrelevant. So is mine, for that matter. That is how the words are defined, and those definitions are what the United States legal system uses when defining obscenity. That definition of obscenity, in turn, is used as a basis for laws regarding the distribution of obscene materials to minors. No amount of whining about prudishness or being unreasonable changes that. You're wrong. Plain and simple.

4227390 The law states if it is pornographic, or has anything that is a basic relation to sexual themes, pics, and so on is illegal. With what Abyss and many other writers on this site do, some of it is very, very, explicit. You literally don't need a picture at times. Even though shirotora went the definition route, yeah, hes still wrong. No obscenity to minors.

"What? No, I had some girl in Argentina draw it for me."

I had to stop for a good 30 seconds and reread that before laughing my ass off.

Good on you for the heads-up, though.

4227401 I was talking about the very first Nightshine pic I had made, on my birthday, no less. He thought I drew it. The person who drew it did an amazing job, and I love how some can draw beautiful works of art like that.

4227405 It is really well done. Gods, I wish I could do something like that.

4227405

You know, after thinking on it, I can't help but wonder just where he was going to get this picture he was trying to threaten you with. I mean, is he an artist? Does he have a friend who would draw it for him? Even as a teenager, I'm pretty sure most of my artsy friends would have more than a few questions if I started asking them for pictures of tortured cartoon ponies. Did he plan to commission it? I mean, he doesn't have money for the story, and artists can charge a pretty penny for those commissions. This entire thing just raises so many questions.

You know, aside from the standard "Wait, what? What is this I don't even" type of question.

which should be common sense.

Common sense? On the internet?
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4227411 He asked me if I could write him something if he got me a free pic of my OC, so he might have a friend do it.

4227416

Oh, I suppose. I prefer to imagine some wacky, nonsensical scenario, but if I must accept a simple, logical answer...

4227390 First, what's curious about seeing I was mistaken and not insisting what I believed was true is in fact true? Second, I had read the definition some years ago. Definitions change. It happens. Also different sources can define a term differently. Third, as I said, no one reasonable would consider words porn. Politicians are not typically reasonable. Fourth, trying to act like you're better than someone with passive aggressive BS like that just makes you look like an elitist prick.

Love the "I got no money...... I'd pay you double if I could but I can't..." line. What it really means is "Even if I had money I have no intention of paying you for anything."

Well, if you ever get requests from an Australian, just remember that legal age to consent to sex is sixteen here.

Don't worry about me asking though, as I am 22 and I much prefer seeing what other people produce over seeing someone make something I specifically want, fetishes notwithstanding.

Well he does seem to be a bit off, the kid. But the minor part and him asking for porn, I mean... that is not something anyone should care about. 21st Century, literally every kid by age of what, 7-8, has access to internet and I can guarantee you that by the age of 12 they either intentionally or not would have came across a piece of porn of some kind.
Now you could say that its their parents fault or what not, but another thing I'm sure of is that most parents, that are NOT out of their mind wouldn't really care, they were teenagers too, pretty sure they seen some weird stuff too when they were young, most likely out of their own choice.
I mean, at age of 15 this kid is allowed to have sex in MANY countries across the world, who cares if someone gives him some porn or not, though at least he could ask for it in a more polite manner :rainbowkiss:

I PMd him trying to be nice as possible in explaining whats going on. (I feel like this is a bad idea)

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