Believing that the essence of Harmony is threatened, Twilight plans to remedy that through a form of extraction. As her ambitions manifest, Twilight struggles through an internal war between her harmonious plan and the consequences of her acts.
But eeyup, last of the Fluttertorture! I have to say I enjoyed writing the end of Fluttershy's torture the most, it gave me an opportunity to give Applejack some inclusion and more character insight (and a means for an interesting potential confrontation in the limbo-realm) and I got to have Twilight get into a physical fight for once - that fight part was fun to write!
Yes, there is still more, definitely, but the mass Flutter-torture is done, so this will mean sooner chapters, hopefully! Hope you enjoyed it... amd be prepared for more stuff.
3134238 Guess that's "things just got triple-crazy" Pinkie's crazy face is the perfect kind of emoticons for things like this... but we need a crazy Twilight emoticon.
Damn. Too bad Fluttershy didn't get Twilight. I had the same feeling I had in Smile HD, so close!
Fluttershy, RD: Chaotic Neutral AJ, Rarity: True Neutral Pinkie: Neutral Good Twilight: swinging between Lawful Evil and Neutral Evil
Well since Fluttershy killing her is out of the picture, the only way to end this with justice is having the Mane 6's souls freed and dragging her to hell by force or have them devour her soul( preferably with Twilight laughing or begging the whole way through)
Dragged to Hell (replace Faciler with Twilight and the Loa with the Mane 6)
Soul Devoured (replace Scar with Twilight and the Hyenas with the Mane 6)
3134344 Or and hear me out on this the elements are showing something that could have happened to the bearers which is why they have not truly died and passed on.
3134650 I suppose but I'd be angry if that happened because it means the author couldn't come up with a good way to end to the story. This can be done well (christmas carol) but usually it's all a dream ending are bad
This chapter was so well worth the wait. Seeing 5 out of 6 innocents sent to the void interesting and it'll be even more interesting if Consciousness Twilight gets sent to the void and joins the others. With how much they hate Twilight it'll be amusing to see if PureTwi could convince them that she was an innocent bystander as well.
And I can't wait to see Twilight's vision of harmony. And her altered body is going to be so hot. Is she going to implant the Elements into their corresponding physical locations? Becoming "Harmony" incarnate?
This was so awesome. You did a great job of Fluttershy getting less and less kind as it went on, leading up to that ending. Poor Angel...
Twilight is really, really crazy, isn't she? She seems to have actually convinced herself that she is actually doing the right thing and is going to make the world more harmonious, whereas she's probably doing the opposite. It would be interesting to see if her actions are going to release Discord and how she would react if she did. In fact, this could be a consequence that her conscience was warning her about...
I'm really looking forward to seeing what happens in the next chapter, to see how this story will continue, as at the moment I don't know whats going to happen next. She wasn't able to finish off Fluttershy with much ease, and I don't think she'll be able to stop the rest of Ponyville from discovering her guilt after her most recent actions, so it will be interesting to see how she handles the situation.
And I'm also curious to see Celestia's reaction to the atrocities Twilight has committed for the sake of 'Harmony' and if anyone could possibly stop her...
3134344 I gotta say I love these different ways you hope Twilight will meet her end - and the fact that you used two of my favorite Disney villain death sequences to illustrate it is a plus. 3134650>>3134668 I can assure you that this will not have an "All Just a Dream" ending, I generally think of those as cop-outs except in some cases (like a Christmas Carol), but for big epic stories it doesn't really work out. 3134670 Eeyup, that's pretty much an accurate representation of Fluttershy's mindset now.
3134760>>3134668 I'm not saying I would enjoy an ending like that I am just saying not everything maybe as it appears. The sadist in me is hoping everything is as it appears though.
I can foresee the meeting between Fluttershy and Rainbow Dash not going down well. And I don't know why, but I get the feeling that Fluttershy is going to hand RD's ass to her (and possibly attack the other four out of rage).
But for some reason, the one that's scaring me the most, despite all the shit that's gone down so far, is Pinkie. She's the only one with unaltered perception and memories. She can't speak, and when she's ignored by the others she's stuck with only her thoughts for conversation.
As we've seen in this chapter, her mane is starting to do a 'Pinkamena' on us. I could be entirely wrong, (which seems likely, I'm just throwing out an idea here) but with what seems to be a gradual, silent decline into insanity, and Pinkie's general tendency to break the fourth wall, I'm really starting to wonder if it's going to be her that breaks the 'purgatory wall' to go after Twilight. And even in comparison to Twilight's actions, the thought of what a hell-bent, batshit insane Pinkamena Diane Pie may be capable of?
3134760 The Twilight in this story is one of the most evil fanfic villains ever! Of course I'll come up with horrid ways for her to meet her end. The only other fanfic villains who come close are Factory Dash (sadist), Cheerilee's Garden Cheerilee(very similar to this Twilight actually), Big Mac from Sweet Apple Massacre(brutally raping three fillies), Adam from Arby n the Chief(some would disagree but his mindset was certainly pure evil, even if his actions weren't), Colin from Arby n the Chief(This guy has raped multiple 8 yr olds and enjoyed hacking people), and Tyler from Arby n the Chief(he has broken his dog's leg multiple times and tries to kill someone over a video game).
I think my tradition for this story will be to come up with ways for Twilight to meet her end.
Ways to apply any of these death's save for Rothbart since his is kind of lame
Ruber: The Elements consume Twilight's soul Thrax: Twilight falls into some of her own chemicals Professor Screweyes: The Irukandji Jellyfish fall on Twilight Rasptutin: Takes place a hundred years later where Twilight is only held together by magic and her horn breaks.
3134705 I sense an anticipation for a spirit confrontation and a One Winged Angel transformation incoming. (yay TV Tropes terms!) 3134712 Yeah, I really liked writing Fluttershy's descent into cruelty through the procedures and memories. And I'm glad that I'm keeping you guessing with what will happen and how Twilight will handle her guilt - scientific procedures aside. Fluttershy managed to do a bit of damage to Twilight to show that Twilight can still be injured, even though she was scientifically unguarded and half-distracted by her conscience-self at that point. 3134738 David Tennant gif FTW! And considering the extent of Twilight's plan you can be certain that, one way or another, Celestia eventually will find out. 3134792 Well, part of the fun is keeping the readers guessing whether or not everything is as it appears. 3134895 The interaction between Fluttershy and the others will have the potential to be a volatile one, that's for sure. And you do have a point with Pinkie, even though her hair has more or less been in "Pinkamena mode" since Chapter 3, it just increased to a more severe degree (her color darkening even more and her mane and tail hanging limp) due to being horrified and depressed from Twilight's actions. As you pointed out with her inability to talk and be fully understood or acknowledged by the others, she could go into an emotionally-based version of Go Mad From the Isolation.:pinkiesad: 3134903 I love Rainbow Factory, read SAM and thought it was terribly written and didn't make any sense, only read part of Cheerilee's Garden (I need to finish it), and I had never heard of that other one. I'm still pleased that you say Twilight's one of the most evil fanfic villains ever though, shows I'm doing my job right And I like your "tradition" of coming up with ways for Twilight to meet her fate - especially because Ruber, Rothbart, and Rasputin are from three of my favorite childhood movies that aren't Disney..
although the fact that she sees her self as the bottom song is even more unsettling in context.
I actually vote that Lillium be the theme song for this fic. I'm literally getting chills over here seeing how DarkTwi thinks this is her.
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But Twilight's Transcendent Form is going to be interesting to see if with as much as she reads. That she's bordering on breaking the Evil Overlord Rules with transforming into a Penultimate Form. Unless it's like Izanami, and has 3 Forms [from Shin Megami Tensei Persona 4 + Unwitting tools for man(pony)kinds destruction.
Actually now that I think about it. The void is like the Dark Hour in that it's an altered world between reality that has special condition to entering at first, but then a rip occurs letting loose the things held within. But that just may be me geeking out a little bit.
3135890 Poor Fluttershy indeed... and yet it seems your eagerness to read it eclipses all else about that. 3135915 Clever with the "One Winged Angel" thing there!:rainbowlaugh; That's an intriguing picture of a demon form for Twilight, and that song... I can so imagine Twilight singing that to herself as a kind of self-announcement as to who and what she is. Another song I considered for a theme of this fic is "A Dangerous Mind" with Twilight singing the lyrics and her victims singing the chorus:
. I think that song you posted works great as well, however, and it really captures Twilight's deluded ideals. Huh, maybe now I ought to add a thing of designated themes for the fic in the description... And thanks for catching that little nitpick, much aporeciated I've never played Persona 4 before, but I have heard a little about it. If Twilight's a danger to ponies now, imagine how it would be if she had Transcendent/Penultimate/Ultimate forms... And I've never heard of the Dark Hour before, but now that you pointed out the similarities to the ponies' sub-purgatory, I'm tempted to investigate it more. 3136003 Seems like you're (quite understandably) jumping on the bandwagon with Rainbow and Fluttershy.
Best of luck looking into them. Both Persona 3 and 4 have wonderful system mechanics and game play. But Persona 4 in my opinion is superior [and the Vita version Persona 4: The Golden was better than the PS2 version].
3135760 Well, Arby n the Chief is a Machinima about two toys (an Arbiter and Master Chief) going on adventures in the online world of Halo. The villains I just mentioned are from that show. Yeah, I don't know why people rip on Quest for Camelot and Anastasia so much. Hell, Lauren Faust worked on Quest for Camelot. If I had to pick a theme for this story well then
3137719 So does this mean that they're far superior than the first two Persona games? I would I be able to play one of the later ones without playing the first and still understand what was going on? 3138236 Ohh, it's a Machinima - the only Machinimas I've seen are Portal-related ones and Freeman's Mind. I'll have to check out that other one though. I know that Lauren Faust said she wasn't too fond of Quest for Camelot because she didn't see Kaylee as a strong enough female protagonist or something (though I think Faust was a storyboarder for the film), but I still adore both QfC and Anastasia (I even have a replica of the music box and the necklace!), and the Swan Princess is also a classic to me - yay for non-Disney films with good plots and cool villains (plus, QfC had Gary Oldman as Ruber, that is cool!) And yay, more potential theme music! The Saw theme is quite creepy and I feel like it could be used in a trailer for the fic (idea!), the Repo the Genetic Opera one (which, like Saw, I have heard of but never watched it), does have lyrics that fit (especially the "but somebody's got to do it", part), and the Arby 'n Chief song definitely has that "I'm using science for a purpose some might see as evil" vibe to it
I love you. At first I thought this might have been canceled before reading because of the long wait, but I am so happy it wasn't. And I REALLY want Twilight to win, I don't know, maybe its the fact that I love it when the bad guy wins or we get the bad/sad ending 'see:Everytragedymadeby Kaidan ever (may or may not include his large amount of clopfics)'
3138473 Ruber was a badass He punched a dragon to death and smacked a gryphon around. Also his name means red in LatinShould Twilight ascend to godhood, then this song applies heavily.
I'm coming up with songs for the purgatory group now
(dunno just seems to fit their constant bickering also Luigi is basically RD in this story)
(just seems to fit with the whole insanity of this story)
Persona 3 is actually totally different than the first two and doesn't really tie into the first two at all. It's also the first one to introduce friendship as a way to empower your character. The only call back to Persona 2 is through the computer game "Innocent Sins" which is named after Persona 2. Has several shout outs in it, and is used to power up The Hermit.
Persona 4 ties into Persona 3 in a few ways. 1) Risa was supposed to be doing a show in Paulownia Mall, during the Hermit Shadow battle. This leads to them owing her during P4 [2 years after P3], thus the bar scene [they don't get drunk off liquor but off the atmosphere]. So freaking hilarious.
2) Iwatodai the island that all of P3 takes place in, is a part of the P4 story for a Cultural expansion trip that introduces us to Naoto-Kun! So freaking awesome.
3) Tanaka's Amazing Commodities. In P3 he only sells one thing per week. In P4 you get to choose between 2 different products.
and
3) Igor and the velvet room have to my knowledge always been a staple of Persona [only played a part of 2, and all of 3 and 4.] And he has a much more screen time in P4 than on P3.
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Other than that. You can pick up 3 or 4 play them and not miss out on anything other than the occasional shout out. Mentioned above. But I would skip one and two. Poor graphics, poor control, and is totally different than 3 or 4.
3138522 Kaiden was the one who suggested I could use VX nerve gas (even though it can be in a liquid form as it's portrayed here), so I decided to take up that advice and use it! And you're one of the few commenters I've seen here who actually want Twilight to win instead of having her die - it's nice to see all these differing opinions on a character with such a skewed sense of morality and believing she's good. 3138557 I didn't know Ruber's name meant red in Latin, cool! And woah, you're right, that song does fit Twilight if she were to ascend to godhood. As for "Mark It Up", I can somehow imagine them singing a less vulgar version (Rainbow in particular with Luigi's part like you said), if this fic had more songs in it besides just the one in Chapter 6. And wow, I didn't even know there was a Spiderman Broadway musical, but that was a catchy little song! 3138574 Ooh, in that case I'm gonna have to give Persona 3 a try sometime.
3135760 I'm more interested in how the citizens on Ponyville will deal with Twilight's guilt then how she will, as she knows that what she is doing is necessary for Harmony, but I don't think she'd be able to get anyone else to see it her way, due to the fact that she is completely crazy and it makes no sense. Seeing as she had trouble with Fluttershy, it would be interesting to see what she will manage against an entire village, even with magical enhancements.
It will also be interesting to see how Celestia will react to news of what has become of her student reaces her, as there is no doubt that it WILL reach her.
Play Persona 3 FES [PS2] version of P 3 when you get around to that game. They worked out the kinks in the original one. But ignore The Answer the follow up mini game to the original. It was atrocious. Although if you have a PSP then P3P, allows you to play as either a male of female. To spice things up.
Also the New Game+ Option carries over weapons, armor, other equipables, money, Persona cards gained, and opens up a special level that is perfect for power leveling.
I think that what Twilight's going to do is a minor World Wave spell on Ponyville like what happened all across Equestria when Discord was defeated and his influences to one degree or another were eradicated.
Flooding Ponyville with her power to sense out 'Disharmony" and eradicating it. And those left will be ones she can exert power / control over.
3139404 I could easily see her doing that, or at least trying to. I have no doubt that she has some plan for haw to deal with Ponyville when the morning comes. I hope for Celestia's sake that when she does hear about Twilight's actions that she believes it and doesn't confront Twilight alone hoping to have her prove her innocence, as I can't see it going well for her.
And you're one of the few commenters I've seen here who actually want Twilight to win instead of having her die
Whilst I don't want Twilight to win, my main reason for wanting her to lose is for her to have to have to watch her plan fall apart whilst she is powerless to stop it. However, it would also be interesting to see the broken 5 members of the mane 6 watch her succeed with her plan, but the main problem with that is that her plan is completely insane and doesn't make much sense.
Actually her plan makes perfect sense. Although none the less crazy. The world is a dark, uncertain, chaotic place. Where order, and harmony need magic death rainbows to enforce it. Her friends repeatedly abandoned her in her times of need, even the thing that gives life to the world [the sun] is poisonous and can kill ponies.
So by being the sole wielder / physical manifestation of harmony she can make sure that all the discord and evil in the world is vanquished. Think of it in terms of a murderpwnlazor wielding poinified Light Yagami from Death Note. The only difference is that she is using artifacts that warp / re-write reality, alter bodies, and have a near infinite potential of power. Rather than a magical book that controls how you / when you die. She's cleansing the world, and making it perfect. In her perception of reality.
And yeah Celestia going after Twi is going to be a bad idea. Although it'd be interesting if Twilight would strip her of the latent sparks she has within her, as well as her power. Since she has already had experience with breaking Element Bearers, and breaking a Physical Goddess would be epic.Although I wonder if she'd just break her. Or use the Elements in her body to magnitize the sparks that are faded within Celestia and syphon them out of her and store them on / in / around her.
Kind of like what Kauzu does with organs from the Akatski, or Danzo did with the Uchiha Sharingan.
3136187 That and she tortured her friends to death. She even killed Spike and Sweetie Belle. Anyone who do that deserve to die, like Light Yagami did at the end of Death Note.
3139630 There is one problem with her plan. If she wants to become the sole bearer of the elements, she will be required her to bond with them. I am interested in seeing how she manages to bond with Loyalty after torturing and murdering 6 of her closest friends. Her actions have also been very cruel, so kindness could be hard as well. If she does managed to bond with them however, she will become very hard to stop, as whilst she is very similar to Light Yagami in a surprising number of ways, you won't be able to take her powers away by swapping her notebook with a face, and she doesn't need to know your name to kill you.
3138557 Yeah Ruby is a derivative of that. Spider-Man on Broadway is very good if you don't mind it being taken almost like the original Spider-Man comics, that is to say not that seriously. I just came up with a new way for Twilight to die How it will happen, I dunno but it would involve demons and Twilight being in Hell
This song also fits Twilight just for the craziness
3139209 Whatever happens, Ponyville's citizens will be in complete chaos at one level or another Poor ponies, aren't gonna know what hit'em. Not to mention Twilight's mental state as she fears Celestia finding out. 3139390 Thanks for the advice there! I'm glad that PS2 games apparently work on the PS3, because I have a PS3. 3139404 Whether it ends up being that way or not, that is an intriguing mental image. 3139584>>3139630>>3139639>>3139871 Discussing Twilight's motives, consequences, and morals, the similarities to Death Note, and the overall speculation between you guys intrigues me greatly. Especially considering I had Twilight's plan be this from the beginning and I didn't really know anything about Death Note until after Chapter 6
3139988 Yeah, Ponyville's not going to get out of this well. As for the similarity's with Death Note, it's definitely surprising as to how Twilight ended up being so similar to Light, to the point were Twilight is almost the ponified version of him apart from a few factors.
3139984 Considering I like things like that, I might consider that Spiderman musical to be great or terrible - but that one song is pretty awesome. And based on that Mortal Kombat video, Twilight would definitely be in for an eternity of pain if she was basically "killed" by demons over and over again by having her body torn apart or destroyed in extremely painful and bloody ways. Though I've never seen the Rocky Horror Picture Show, I knew instantly that it was the dentist song just by looking at the still frame since I saw clips from this song in the Nostalgia Critic's Top 11 Villain Songs. And that song "Revenge" fits Rainbow in particular so well it's kind of creepy. And gotta say, I love your tradition of Twi-deaths and potential fic theme songs! 3140002 Nice Discord gif!... and now I wonder what would happen if Discord was Light Yagami's shinigami 3140089 Perhaps, but one thing's for sure, everypony's gonna have a heck lot of problems on all fronts of the issue. 3140145 (Your post is number 666, dundundun!)Their similarities are so spooky in a way that multiple tomes when I watch Death Note, I can imagine Pages!Twilight saying that stuff and it still perfectly fits. - not to mention they both have "light" in their names. 3140277 I feel your pain - aside from the potato chip scene (which a ftiendcsent to me a few years back before I even knew what Death Note was), the first full clip thing I saw of the anime was that scene to demonstrate how similar Light Yagami and Twilight are.
3141769 Wild Mass Guessing - Discord actually is a shinigami and maybe even knows Ryuk. He even has yellow eyes and red pupils just like Ryuk does! 3141865 I don't know why I was thinking Rocky Horror Picture Show maybe because they both have the word "horror" in them. As for that way for Twilight to die - epic tower battle, gets tossed off, Twilight somehow cannot use magic to save herself, BAM. I loved the 300 audio in that too. That Mortal Kombat music does have a very awesome science dubstep feel, and that Land Before Time 2 song... oh man, nostalgia! Ozzie's like Rainbow and Strut's like Pinkie, if I had to pick two that fit them the closest.
Oh!!! He is Ryuk when he goes over to the human universes since he occasionally hops universes to have some variety [the spice of life]. Only because his normal form would break the HumanVerses from shear awesomeness and Pwnitude overload!
3141735 That is true, but kill her through. She's basically Light Yagami. With her plan in set, but will fall apart at one point, like Near tricked Kira.
3142620 So I guess that means there are separate forms of the shinigami realm depending on the universe, and when the shinigami dimension-hop they take on the form of whichever life form in that area has the highest intelligence! and I approve of "pwnitude" bring a word!
Also, random trivia based on English dub voice actors: A pony in G2 became Light Near became Spike Misa became Pinkie (singing voice, anyway) Naomi (Ray Penber's fiancé) became Rarity And Ryuk became... Mr. Cake
3141735 Yeah, I can see that. Also, I love the potato chip scene, just because of how crazy he makes something that's a really normal thing sound. 3142678 That's some interesting trivia., and I agree that Pwnitude is a great word.
Also, this is really making me want to re-read/re-watch Death Note.
Also I wouldn't say Shinigami realms [I think Requiem from Final Dreams of a Filly would be pissed at Discord messing up her hard work]. More like Discord goes where he wants and takes a form that amuses him. It just happens that in the Universes that Death Note Shinigami he takes the form of Ryuk since he disappears enough times that noone would miss him.
Although in the Bleach Shinigami verse I think he was the one to introduce Aizen to the Spirit King's Key, and gave Urahara the idea for the Hōgyoku. Just to watch the two collide and see the chaos that was born from it. And such delicious chaos it was.
He's also the one who when dimension hopping to a strange Earth without a moon [how delectably delightful], created a creature to take care of the problem. Watching the world being shifted, re-arranged, and altered for the lolz while the humans went crazy from the terror it inflicted. Then when some goody two shoes came by and ruined his fun. Gave his eldest son the push needed to cause centuries if not longer of strife and discord. between the two brother's decedents.
Holy CRAP this chapter was long!
But eeyup, last of the Fluttertorture! I have to say I enjoyed writing the end of Fluttershy's torture the most, it gave me an opportunity to give Applejack some inclusion and more character insight (and a means for an interesting potential confrontation in the limbo-realm) and I got to have Twilight get into a physical fight for once - that fight part was fun to write!
Yes, there is still more, definitely, but the mass Flutter-torture is done, so this will mean sooner chapters, hopefully! Hope you enjoyed it... amd be prepared for more stuff.
3134238 Guess that's "things just got triple-crazy" Pinkie's crazy face is the perfect kind of emoticons for things like this... but we need a crazy Twilight emoticon.
Damn. Too bad Fluttershy didn't get Twilight. I had the same feeling I had in Smile HD, so close!
Fluttershy, RD: Chaotic Neutral
AJ, Rarity: True Neutral
Pinkie: Neutral Good
Twilight: swinging between Lawful Evil and Neutral Evil
Well since Fluttershy killing her is out of the picture, the only way to end this with justice is having the Mane 6's souls freed and dragging her to hell by force or have them devour her soul( preferably with Twilight laughing or begging the whole way through)
Dragged to Hell (replace Faciler with Twilight and the Loa with the Mane 6)
Soul Devoured (replace Scar with Twilight and the Hyenas with the Mane 6)
3134344 Or and hear me out on this the elements are showing something that could have happened to the bearers which is why they have not truly died and passed on.
3134650 I suppose but I'd be angry if that happened because it means the author couldn't come up with a good way to end to the story. This can be done well (christmas carol) but usually it's all a dream ending are bad
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This chapter was so well worth the wait. Seeing 5 out of 6 innocents sent to the void interesting and it'll be even more interesting if Consciousness Twilight gets sent to the void and joins the others. With how much they hate Twilight it'll be amusing to see if PureTwi could convince them that she was an innocent bystander as well.
And I can't wait to see Twilight's vision of harmony. And her altered body is going to be so hot. Is she going to implant the Elements into their corresponding physical locations? Becoming "Harmony" incarnate?
This was so awesome. You did a great job of Fluttershy getting less and less kind as it went on, leading up to that ending. Poor Angel...
Twilight is really, really crazy, isn't she? She seems to have actually convinced herself that she is actually doing the right thing and is going to make the world more harmonious, whereas she's probably doing the opposite. It would be interesting to see if her actions are going to release Discord and how she would react if she did. In fact, this could be a consequence that her conscience was warning her about...
I'm really looking forward to seeing what happens in the next chapter, to see how this story will continue, as at the moment I don't know whats going to happen next. She wasn't able to finish off Fluttershy with much ease, and I don't think she'll be able to stop the rest of Ponyville from discovering her guilt after her most recent actions, so it will be interesting to see how she handles the situation.
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And I'm also curious to see Celestia's reaction to the atrocities Twilight has committed for the sake of 'Harmony' and if anyone could possibly stop her...
3134344 I gotta say I love these different ways you hope Twilight will meet her end - and the fact that you used two of my favorite Disney villain death sequences to illustrate it is a plus.
3134650>>3134668 I can assure you that this will not have an "All Just a Dream" ending, I generally think of those as cop-outs except in some cases (like a Christmas Carol), but for big epic stories it doesn't really work out.
3134670 Eeyup, that's pretty much an accurate representation of Fluttershy's mindset now.
3134760>>3134668 I'm not saying I would enjoy an ending like that I am just saying not everything maybe as it appears. The sadist in me is hoping everything is as it appears though.
I can foresee the meeting between Fluttershy and Rainbow Dash not going down well. And I don't know why, but I get the feeling that Fluttershy is going to hand RD's ass to her (and possibly attack the other four out of rage).
But for some reason, the one that's scaring me the most, despite all the shit that's gone down so far, is Pinkie. She's the only one with unaltered perception and memories. She can't speak, and when she's ignored by the others she's stuck with only her thoughts for conversation.
As we've seen in this chapter, her mane is starting to do a 'Pinkamena' on us. I could be entirely wrong, (which seems likely, I'm just throwing out an idea here) but with what seems to be a gradual, silent decline into insanity, and Pinkie's general tendency to break the fourth wall, I'm really starting to wonder if it's going to be her that breaks the 'purgatory wall' to go after Twilight. And even in comparison to Twilight's actions, the thought of what a hell-bent, batshit insane Pinkamena Diane Pie may be capable of?
It scares me...
3134760 The Twilight in this story is one of the most evil fanfic villains ever! Of course I'll come up with horrid ways for her to meet her end. The only other fanfic villains who come close are Factory Dash (sadist), Cheerilee's Garden Cheerilee(very similar to this Twilight actually), Big Mac from Sweet Apple Massacre(brutally raping three fillies), Adam from Arby n the Chief(some would disagree but his mindset was certainly pure evil, even if his actions weren't), Colin from Arby n the Chief(This guy has raped multiple 8 yr olds and enjoyed hacking people), and Tyler from Arby n the Chief(he has broken his dog's leg multiple times and tries to kill someone over a video game).
I think my tradition for this story will be to come up with ways for Twilight to meet her end.
Ways to apply any of these death's save for Rothbart since his is kind of lame
Ruber: The Elements consume Twilight's soul
Thrax: Twilight falls into some of her own chemicals
Professor Screweyes: The Irukandji Jellyfish fall on Twilight
Rasptutin: Takes place a hundred years later where Twilight is only held together by magic and her horn breaks.
3134705 I sense an anticipation for a spirit confrontation and a One Winged Angel transformation incoming. (yay TV Tropes terms!)
3134712 Yeah, I really liked writing Fluttershy's descent into cruelty through the procedures and memories. And I'm glad that I'm keeping you guessing with what will happen and how Twilight will handle her guilt - scientific procedures aside. Fluttershy managed to do a bit of damage to Twilight to show that Twilight can still be injured, even though she was scientifically unguarded and half-distracted by her
conscience-self at that point.
3134738 David Tennant gif FTW! And considering the extent of Twilight's plan you can be certain that, one way or another, Celestia eventually will find out.
3134792 Well, part of the fun is keeping the readers guessing whether or not everything is as it appears.
3134895 The interaction between Fluttershy and the others will have the potential to be a volatile one, that's for sure. And you do have a point with Pinkie, even though her hair has more or less been in "Pinkamena mode" since Chapter 3, it just increased to a more severe degree (her color darkening even more and her mane and tail hanging limp) due to being horrified and depressed from Twilight's actions. As you pointed out with her inability to talk and be fully understood or acknowledged by the others, she could go into an emotionally-based version of Go Mad From the Isolation.:pinkiesad:
3134903 I love Rainbow Factory, read SAM and thought it was terribly written and didn't make any sense, only read part of Cheerilee's Garden (I need to finish it), and I had never heard of that other one. I'm still pleased that you say Twilight's one of the most evil fanfic villains ever though, shows I'm doing my job right And I like your "tradition" of coming up with ways for Twilight to meet her fate - especially because Ruber, Rothbart, and Rasputin are from three of my favorite childhood movies that aren't Disney..
Ohmigosh ohmigosh, it's here!
This is so exciting, I can't wait to read it.
...uh...I mean, uh... poor Fluttershy!
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I came across this looking for Twilight Sparkle Demon Form on Google Images.
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[play you tube clip with this]
although the fact that she sees her self as the bottom song is even more unsettling in context.
I actually vote that Lillium be the theme song for this fic. I'm literally getting chills over here seeing how DarkTwi thinks this is her.
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Forgot to do this earlier. Smallest of nitpics.
Y'all is a contraction of you and all. It's used when talking to a group of ponies. Ya, or even you is the proper term when talking to a singular pony.
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But Twilight's Transcendent Form is going to be interesting to see if with as much as she reads. That she's bordering on breaking the Evil Overlord Rules with transforming into a Penultimate Form. Unless it's like Izanami, and has 3 Forms [from Shin Megami Tensei Persona 4 + Unwitting tools for man(pony)kinds destruction.
Actually now that I think about it. The void is like the Dark Hour in that it's an altered world between reality that has special condition to entering at first, but then a rip occurs letting loose the things held within. But that just may be me geeking out a little bit.
I loved it(Minus the Fluttershy torture). . I just hope Twilight dies at the end of the story. She deserves it.
3135890 Poor Fluttershy indeed... and yet it seems your eagerness to read it eclipses all else about that.
3135915 Clever with the "One Winged Angel" thing there!:rainbowlaugh; That's an intriguing picture of a demon form for Twilight, and that song... I can so imagine Twilight singing that to herself as a kind of self-announcement as to who and what she is. Another song I considered for a theme of this fic is "A Dangerous Mind" with Twilight singing the lyrics and her victims singing the chorus:
. I think that song you posted works great as well, however, and it really captures Twilight's deluded ideals. Huh, maybe now I ought to add a thing of designated themes for the fic in the description...
And thanks for catching that little nitpick, much aporeciated
I've never played Persona 4 before, but I have heard a little about it. If Twilight's a danger to ponies now, imagine how it would be if she had Transcendent/Penultimate/Ultimate forms...
And I've never heard of the Dark Hour before, but now that you pointed out the similarities to the ponies' sub-purgatory, I'm tempted to investigate it more.
3136003 Seems like you're (quite understandably) jumping on the bandwagon with Rainbow and Fluttershy.
Release the Twilight upon the impure! *roars*
3136522 Lol, now I got a mental image of Twilight being like a lion opposing gladiators in the Colosseum.
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Best of luck looking into them. Both Persona 3 and 4 have wonderful system mechanics and game play. But Persona 4 in my opinion is superior [and the Vita version Persona 4: The Golden was better than the PS2 version].
3135760 Well, Arby n the Chief is a Machinima about two toys (an Arbiter and Master Chief) going on adventures in the online world of Halo. The villains I just mentioned are from that show. Yeah, I don't know why people rip on Quest for Camelot and Anastasia so much. Hell, Lauren Faust worked on Quest for Camelot. If I had to pick a theme for this story well then
or
or basically any theme that is organized evil
3137719 So does this mean that they're far superior than the first two Persona games? I would I be able to play one of the later ones without playing the first and still understand what was going on?
3138236 Ohh, it's a Machinima - the only Machinimas I've seen are Portal-related ones and Freeman's Mind. I'll have to check out that other one though.
I know that Lauren Faust said she wasn't too fond of Quest for Camelot because she didn't see Kaylee as a strong enough female protagonist or something (though I think Faust was a storyboarder for the film), but I still adore both QfC and Anastasia (I even have a replica of the music box and the necklace!), and the Swan Princess is also a classic to me - yay for non-Disney films with good plots and cool villains (plus, QfC had Gary Oldman as Ruber, that is cool!)
And yay, more potential theme music! The Saw theme is quite creepy and I feel like it could be used in a trailer for the fic (idea!), the Repo the Genetic Opera one (which, like Saw, I have heard of but never watched it), does have lyrics that fit (especially the "but somebody's got to do it", part), and the Arby 'n Chief song definitely has that "I'm using science for a purpose some might see as evil" vibe to it
*this fic updated*
*has VX gas*
I love you. At first I thought this might have been canceled before reading because of the long wait, but I am so happy it wasn't.
And I REALLY want Twilight to win, I don't know, maybe its the fact that I love it when the bad guy wins or we get the bad/sad ending 'see:Every tragedy made by Kaidan ever (may or may not include his large amount of clopfics)'
3138473 Ruber was a badass He punched a dragon to death and smacked a gryphon around. Also his name means red in LatinShould Twilight ascend to godhood, then this song applies heavily.
I'm coming up with songs for the purgatory group now
(dunno just seems to fit their constant bickering also Luigi is basically RD in this story)
(just seems to fit with the whole insanity of this story)
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Persona 3 is actually totally different than the first two and doesn't really tie into the first two at all. It's also the first one to introduce friendship as a way to empower your character. The only call back to Persona 2 is through the computer game "Innocent Sins" which is named after Persona 2. Has several shout outs in it, and is used to power up The Hermit.
Persona 4 ties into Persona 3 in a few ways.
1) Risa was supposed to be doing a show in Paulownia Mall, during the Hermit Shadow battle. This leads to them owing her during P4 [2 years after P3], thus the bar scene [they don't get drunk off liquor but off the atmosphere]. So freaking hilarious.
2) Iwatodai the island that all of P3 takes place in, is a part of the P4 story for a Cultural expansion trip that introduces us to Naoto-Kun! So freaking awesome.
3) Tanaka's Amazing Commodities. In P3 he only sells one thing per week. In P4 you get to choose between 2 different products.
and
3) Igor and the velvet room have to my knowledge always been a staple of Persona [only played a part of 2, and all of 3 and 4.] And he has a much more screen time in P4 than on P3.
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Other than that. You can pick up 3 or 4 play them and not miss out on anything other than the occasional shout out. Mentioned above. But I would skip one and two. Poor graphics, poor control, and is totally different than 3 or 4.
3138522 Kaiden was the one who suggested I could use VX nerve gas (even though it can be in a liquid form as it's portrayed here), so I decided to take up that advice and use it! And you're one of the few commenters I've seen here who actually want Twilight to win instead of having her die - it's nice to see all these differing opinions on a character with such a skewed sense of morality and believing she's good.
3138557 I didn't know Ruber's name meant red in Latin, cool! And woah, you're right, that song does fit Twilight if she were to ascend to godhood. As for "Mark It Up", I can somehow imagine them singing a less vulgar version (Rainbow in particular with Luigi's part like you said), if this fic had more songs in it besides just the one in Chapter 6. And wow, I didn't even know there was a Spiderman Broadway musical, but that was a catchy little song!
3138574 Ooh, in that case I'm gonna have to give Persona 3 a try sometime.
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I'm more interested in how the citizens on Ponyville will deal with Twilight's guilt then how she will, as she knows that what she is doing is necessary for Harmony, but I don't think she'd be able to get anyone else to see it her way, due to the fact that she is completely crazy and it makes no sense. Seeing as she had trouble with Fluttershy, it would be interesting to see what she will manage against an entire village, even with magical enhancements.
It will also be interesting to see how Celestia will react to news of what has become of her student reaces her, as there is no doubt that it WILL reach her.
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Play Persona 3 FES [PS2] version of P 3 when you get around to that game. They worked out the kinks in the original one. But ignore The Answer the follow up mini game to the original. It was atrocious. Although if you have a PSP then P3P, allows you to play as either a male of female. To spice things up.
Also the New Game+ Option carries over weapons, armor, other equipables, money, Persona cards gained, and opens up a special level that is perfect for power leveling.
Also stock up on Homniculous and Soma. Those will be so useful for the final boss [well that and getting Your favorite fusion spells ready are also useful.]
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I think that what Twilight's going to do is a minor World Wave spell on Ponyville like what happened all across Equestria when Discord was defeated and his influences to one degree or another were eradicated.
Flooding Ponyville with her power to sense out 'Disharmony" and eradicating it. And those left will be ones she can exert power / control over.
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I could easily see her doing that, or at least trying to. I have no doubt that she has some plan for haw to deal with Ponyville when the morning comes. I hope for Celestia's sake that when she does hear about Twilight's actions that she believes it and doesn't confront Twilight alone hoping to have her prove her innocence, as I can't see it going well for her.
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Whilst I don't want Twilight to win, my main reason for wanting her to lose is for her to have to have to watch her plan fall apart whilst she is powerless to stop it. However, it would also be interesting to see the broken 5 members of the mane 6 watch her succeed with her plan, but the main problem with that is that her plan is completely insane and doesn't make much sense.
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Actually her plan makes perfect sense. Although none the less crazy. The world is a dark, uncertain, chaotic place. Where order, and harmony need magic death rainbows to enforce it. Her friends repeatedly abandoned her in her times of need, even the thing that gives life to the world [the sun] is poisonous and can kill ponies.
So by being the sole wielder / physical manifestation of harmony she can make sure that all the discord and evil in the world is vanquished. Think of it in terms of a murderpwnlazor wielding poinified Light Yagami from Death Note. The only difference is that she is using artifacts that warp / re-write reality, alter bodies, and have a near infinite potential of power. Rather than a magical book that controls how you / when you die. She's cleansing the world, and making it perfect. In her perception of reality.
And yeah Celestia going after Twi is going to be a bad idea. Although it'd be interesting if Twilight would strip her of the latent sparks she has within her, as well as her power. Since she has already had experience with breaking Element Bearers, and breaking a Physical Goddess would be epic.Although I wonder if she'd just break her. Or use the Elements in her body to magnitize the sparks that are faded within Celestia and syphon them out of her and store them on / in / around her.
Kind of like what Kauzu does with organs from the Akatski, or Danzo did with the Uchiha Sharingan.
3136187 That and she tortured her friends to death. She even killed Spike and Sweetie Belle. Anyone who do that deserve to die, like Light Yagami did at the end of Death Note.
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There is one problem with her plan. If she wants to become the sole bearer of the elements, she will be required her to bond with them. I am interested in seeing how she manages to bond with Loyalty after torturing and murdering 6 of her closest friends. Her actions have also been very cruel, so kindness could be hard as well. If she does managed to bond with them however, she will become very hard to stop, as whilst she is very similar to Light Yagami in a surprising number of ways, you won't be able to take her powers away by swapping her notebook with a face, and she doesn't need to know your name to kill you.
3138557 Yeah Ruby is a derivative of that. Spider-Man on Broadway is very good if you don't mind it being taken almost like the original Spider-Man comics, that is to say not that seriously.
I just came up with a new way for Twilight to die How it will happen, I dunno but it would involve demons and Twilight being in Hell
This song also fits Twilight just for the craziness
This for the purgatory group
Tradition: Twilight's death and musical themes
3139209 Whatever happens, Ponyville's citizens will be in complete chaos at one level or another Poor ponies, aren't gonna know what hit'em. Not to mention Twilight's mental state as she fears Celestia finding out.
3139390 Thanks for the advice there! I'm glad that PS2 games apparently work on the PS3, because I have a PS3.
3139404 Whether it ends up being that way or not, that is an intriguing mental image.
3139584>>3139630>>3139639>>3139871 Discussing Twilight's motives, consequences, and morals, the similarities to Death Note, and the overall speculation between you guys intrigues me greatly. Especially considering I had Twilight's plan be this from the beginning and I didn't really know anything about Death Note until after Chapter 6
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3139988 So, please kill Twilight at the end of this story. She should feel the same pain what she did to her friends and suffer from it.
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Yeah, Ponyville's not going to get out of this well. As for the similarity's with Death Note, it's definitely surprising as to how Twilight ended up being so similar to Light, to the point were Twilight is almost the ponified version of him apart from a few factors.
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DUDE!
WHAT THE FUCK!
SPOILERS!
God dammit
3139984 Considering I like things like that, I might consider that Spiderman musical to be great or terrible - but that one song is pretty awesome.
And based on that Mortal Kombat video, Twilight would definitely be in for an eternity of pain if she was basically "killed" by demons over and over again by having her body torn apart or destroyed in extremely painful and bloody ways. Though I've never seen the Rocky Horror Picture Show, I knew instantly that it was the dentist song just by looking at the still frame since I saw clips from this song in the Nostalgia Critic's Top 11 Villain Songs. And that song "Revenge" fits Rainbow in particular so well it's kind of creepy. And gotta say, I love your tradition of Twi-deaths and potential fic theme songs!
3140002 Nice Discord gif!... and now I wonder what would happen if Discord was Light Yagami's shinigami
3140089 Perhaps, but one thing's for sure, everypony's gonna have a heck lot of problems on all fronts of the issue.
3140145 (Your post is number 666, dundundun!)Their similarities are so spooky in a way that multiple tomes when I watch Death Note, I can imagine Pages!Twilight saying that stuff and it still perfectly fits. - not to mention they both have "light" in their names.
3140277 I feel your pain - aside from the potato chip scene (which a ftiendcsent to me a few years back before I even knew what Death Note was), the first full clip thing I saw of the anime was that scene to demonstrate how similar Light Yagami and Twilight are.
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If? ... I thought that he was. With the awesome trolling and chaos that he brings into Light's life.
Seriously though. I wonder the same thing now. The whole story sounds like something Discord would do for the lolz.
3141735 The dentist song is actually from Little Shop of Horrors. Time to continue my tradition!
Ways for Twilight to die
Don't know how it would apply but it's still cool
Twilight theme
very sciencey
Purgatory group theme
I have no clue why but it just seems to fit their dynamic
3141769 Wild Mass Guessing - Discord actually is a shinigami and maybe even knows Ryuk. He even has yellow eyes and red pupils just like Ryuk does!
3141865 I don't know why I was thinking Rocky Horror Picture Show maybe because they both have the word "horror" in them. As for that way for Twilight to die - epic tower battle, gets tossed off, Twilight somehow cannot use magic to save herself, BAM. I loved the 300 audio in that too. That Mortal Kombat music does have a very awesome science dubstep feel, and that Land Before Time 2 song... oh man, nostalgia! Ozzie's like Rainbow and Strut's like Pinkie, if I had to pick two that fit them the closest.
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Oh!!! He is Ryuk when he goes over to the human universes since he occasionally hops universes to have some variety [the spice of life]. Only because his normal form would break the HumanVerses from shear awesomeness and Pwnitude overload!
And yes Pwnitude is now a word. I just made it.
3141735 That is true, but kill her through. She's basically Light Yagami. With her plan in set, but will fall apart at one point, like Near tricked Kira.
3142620 So I guess that means there are separate forms of the shinigami realm depending on the universe, and when the shinigami dimension-hop they take on the form of whichever life form in that area has the highest intelligence! and I approve of "pwnitude" bring a word!
Also, random trivia based on English dub voice actors:
A pony in G2 became Light
Near became Spike
Misa became Pinkie (singing voice, anyway)
Naomi (Ray Penber's fiancé) became Rarity
And Ryuk became... Mr. Cake
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Yeah, I can see that. Also, I love the potato chip scene, just because of how crazy he makes something that's a really normal thing sound.
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That's some interesting trivia., and I agree that Pwnitude is a great word.
Also, this is really making me want to re-read/re-watch Death Note.
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On the trivia ... really?
Also I wouldn't say Shinigami realms [I think Requiem from Final Dreams of a Filly would be pissed at Discord messing up her hard work]. More like Discord goes where he wants and takes a form that amuses him. It just happens that in the Universes that Death Note Shinigami he takes the form of Ryuk since he disappears enough times that noone would miss him.
Although in the Bleach Shinigami verse I think he was the one to introduce Aizen to the Spirit King's Key, and gave Urahara the idea for the Hōgyoku. Just to watch the two collide and see the chaos that was born from it. And such delicious chaos it was.
He's also the one who when dimension hopping to a strange Earth without a moon [how delectably delightful], created a creature to take care of the problem. Watching the world being shifted, re-arranged, and altered for the lolz while the humans went crazy from the terror it inflicted. Then when some goody two shoes came by and ruined his fun. Gave his eldest son the push needed to cause centuries if not longer of strife and discord. between the two brother's decedents.