Chapter 19 - Dinner And A Show
We spent the next two hours training with magic. I constantly asked Wade how much magic he had left so he didn’t pass out again. I had him practice using Flux repeatedly, encouraging him with the prospect of soon reaching the next level of Dark magic. Before long two hours had passed and we both retreated to our rooms to get ready for dinner.
Once more I was given the opportunity to utilize running water. I took a much needed shower, spending some time to clean my own clothes as well. Considering it’s the only clothing I own as well as the main garb from the game I did my best to preserve them indefinitely.
Once I felt reasonably cleaned, I got dressed, re-clasping the dual belt around my waist as well as the button and and string near the neck. Making sure my blade was secured in its sheath I exited my room and waited for Wade.
He exited soon after, wearing a simple tan shirt with the image of… Darth Vader on the front. I rose an eyebrow, surprised that this was honestly the best he could come up with.
"... Nice shirt?"
"Give me a break, you slashed my good shirt to ribbons. All I got left is this," He gestured to his garb, "and a couple others that smell like solidified sweat. They have crystals with magic that remove dirt and grime, I guess that's kinda like washing. Makes them feel weird though, and I couldn't find any in my room, " He explained.
"If it was a good shirt then you should hardly wear it during practice. Now, do you know where the dining hall is?"
"I haven't got a clue. You're the one that’s all chummy with Luna, didn't you get any useful information out of her?" He retorted, irritation evident in his voice. I wisely chose to ignore it.
I shrugged as I looked up and down the hall. "I did not. She was kind enough to open her doors for us to begin with. I suppose we should check in with the guards at the entrance of the wing."
"Or you could just wait for me," Twilight said, coming down the hall flanked by Spike and Rarity. "I know exactly where the personal dining hall we're going to is, you don't have to be in such a rush."
I opened my arms in a placating gesture. "Who said anything about being in a rush? I just feel a bit lost within this castle is all. Also, I'm very much looking forward to what the princess has planned."
"Oh, she's been looking forward to meeting you all day!" Twilight exclaimed. "She just got that twinkle in her eye when she heard you were both here, and arranged the dinner as quickly as she could!"
"Dinner with the Princesses! Oh I could just die!" Rarity belted out, her eyes wide and starry. Spike was no better, he only had eyes for Rarity in her elaborate dress.
I smiled and extended my arm down the hall. "Well then, please lead the way. It wouldn't do to keep the princesses waiting. Oh, and if you would be so kind, I have two questions I would like answered before we reach the dining hall."
"Oh course!" Twilight all but shouted in glee, "But I get to ask a question for each of your questions, it's only fair! I haven't been able to learn nearly as much from you as I thought I was going to be able to..."
I walked right into that one, didn’t I? "That's fine, I did say you could ask me questions about the magic when I wasn't teaching Wade. So, my first question, when you accompanied Celestia earlier I noticed you were taking down notes. Care to share what had caught your attention?"
Or more importantly, what Celestia may have asked for you to keep an eye out for.
However, Twilight perked at the question and didn’t hesitate to answer, "Oh I was just jotting down the approximate amount of blood on the floor, in liters. It might prove extremely beneficial to the anatomy guide I'm writing up on humans. I never would have guessed you could lose so much, and replenish it so quickly! If it isn't too much to ask, might I be able to have a couple of the limbs? I noticed the staff got rid of all the ones from before, but if I could get a couple it would prove to be immeasurably helpful!" She paused, " Oh yeah, my question now. How would you describe the thaumaturgic properties of your spellwork? Do you follow more of a Pendrics formula, or a Leodon script?"
Well, that’s slightly disturbing. I knew she enjoyed studying, but I didn’t think she would go that far. "That's something you're going to have to ask Wade about since I am unable to regrow my limbs. As to your own question, I'm afraid I don't quite understand what you're asking of me. I also don't know the formulas you are referring to."
Twilight’s smile fell, but she quickly recovered it as she began to walk down the hall with us in tow. "I was just wondering if the spellwork was conducive to either of Pendric of Leodons works, because if the aethric energy-"
"She means," Rarity cut her off, "does your magic draw off of your own energy, or does it work off of spell circles and leylines."
"That's what I said!" Twilight snapped, a blush covering her face. "Isn't it?"
I chuckled as I thought on how to respond. "Well... technically it draws from my own energy, but it also is held within a catalyst: that catalyst being a book. In order to create a spell I must first write it within a tome using the ancient language. The language itself has magical properties and turns the ordinary book into an enchanted one. Once that step is complete I am able to transfer my own magic into the tome, both storing it and empowering the spell. Should I wish to cast a spell, all I need to do is draw the magic from the tome. This is incredibly useful for a number of reasons. For one, It allows me to prepare spells in advance before having to actually use them. Also, once I fill a tome with magic, it will remain sealed within forever. This means that when I do cast the spell, I'm using the tomes reserves instead of my own raw magic. Because of this it allows me to remain at full power during a fight."
"Tomes... reserves... " Twilight muttered, drawing our attentions. Where she was still walking, but paying no mind to the world around her. "Oh, sorry, but that is simply fascinating, you enact spellwork similarly to the battlemage squadron of old! They used crystals attached to their weapons, usually staves," she continued on excitably as her note taking ceased, "They used them to pre-charge spells and carry reserves onto the fields, so they could give support to the princesses mid battle."
"It's very similar to that, but these spells aren't for support. In the hands of a competent mage they would be able to take on small battalions by themselves. Now, for my other question; Will Blueblood still be joining us for dinner?"
Twilight’s nose wrinkled in disgust at the mention of the prince. "Him? Hey no. Thankfully he's still laid up in the infirmary after what you did to him, I don't think I could stomach sitting through another meal with him. And Rarity would probably smash a cake into his face if left alone with him for any length of time. My turn! Would you be willing to attempt to leave me with a few spells to study, perhaps in crystallized form?"
My response was swift, "No. And before you complain, let me explain my reasons. This magic is powerful, extremely so and in the wrong hands can cause massive destruction. Furthermore, based on previous discussions, you don't seem to respect this magic for what it is. While it has other uses it is primarily used as a weapon for war. If a pony who was not first taught correctly was able to control this magic they could cause untold damage. I also feel safe teaching Wade because he doesn't require a translation book in order to learn the language. This lowers the possibility of an outside source learning this magic."
Twilight was understandably upset at this refusal, but she took it well. "Oh well, the outcome of your response was a highly likely one. I understand your reasons."
"Thanks you for understanding. Are there any other questions you have for me?"
"Oh yes! Do you have any favorite spells, or any that you just find yourself using more than others? I've been trying to figure out an affinity to attach to the talismans, but I can't attach more than one."
"While I'm adept in all aspects I find myself usually returning to Wind magic. It was the first elemental affinity I learned."
"Wind, air, ethos. Got it," she said with a smile. "If I start back up after dinner, I might actually be done tomorrow, if you'd want to try them out."
"Sounds good to me. I won't be here for much longer, however. I only have three days left. I'm actually surprised that Trixie hasn't informed me of the time back in my universe. I would have thought time would flow differently between our universes..."
"Maybe it did, or maybe it ended up flowing slower than on your end?" Twilight suggested.
I shrugged. "That's certainly a possibility. But, enough chitchat, the princesses are waiting and we should not be tardy."
"Oh my gosh, you're right!" Twilight squealed, panic dancing in her eyes, "Come on, hurry up, we don't want to keep them waiting!"
I chuckled as I gave Wade a quick nod and hurried after Twilight, not wanting to be left behind in the castle.
We arrived in a brightly lit dining hall, a selection of ponies already seated.
"Princess Celestia! I'm sorry we're late!" Twilight yelped.
"Think nothing of it Twilight," Celestia stated, "We have yet to start."
"Hail, friend Robin!" Luna happily spouted, waving a hoof, "Sit next to us, we hath left open a seat for thee!"
I raised an eyebrow in surprise, but I smiled nonetheless. I never labeled Luna as an excitable individual. I made my way towards the designated seat, greeting Luna in the process, "Afternoon Luna, how are you faring this night?"
"Night? Tis not night for yet another hour, friend. I will of course have to raise the moon upon the appointed time, but fear not, I will not leave thee without my companionship for any stretch of time!" she declared, snaking a hoof around my shoulder and pointing off into the distance with the other. "I mean... yes. Indeed." She removed her hoof from me, blushing as she did so.
Well, that was… something. Luna’s friendlier than I first thought, but doesn’t seem to know the meaning of ‘personal space’. I opened my mouth, my inquisitive mind immediately wondering why she was blushing after her little episode. Wisely, I decided to forgo the question, instead coughing into a fist and attempted a response, "I'm glad to hear that?"
"Indeed," Celestia said, a hint of amusement tinging her voice. "Shall we begin? After all, we don't want all this to go to waste and get cold..."
I jumped at the chance to change the subject, "Right! And if I may extend a greetings to Shining Armor and Princess Mi Amore Cadenza."
"Well, yes... I guess that is the direct translation-" Shining Armor started.
"Translation spell. It's annoying," Wade said, slumping into a chair beside Rarity. "Can we simply ignore the weird things it does with our words and move on to something actually interesting?" He asked.
Oh lord, I referred to Cadance as ‘My Love’, didn’t I?
I sighed and rubbed my temples, trying to chase away the headache that was already starting to build. "How about this then? Does anyone have any questions for me? I'd rather not speak again lest I make myself look like a fool. I'm unused to this type of environment."
"How long will you be staying?" Celestia said suddenly.
I turned my head to look at her. Surely she should know by this point how long I’m staying? "Well... this is currently my fourth day here. I plan on returning to my own Universe within the next three days."
"And you can... return any time you desire?" she asked pointedly.
"Yes, do return to visit once and a while, sir Robin!" Luna continued, pouring everyone a drink from the central pitcher.
"I can indeed. After spending some time within the Void I discovered a way to utilize a peculiar type of magic. I'm unaware of what it's called so for simplicity sakes I'll refer to it as 'Void magic'. This magic allows the user to travel through and manipulate the Void. Now, the Void is essentially nothingness that fills in the space between different universes. It's also what my token and Wade's token are created from. Wade himself should be able to manipulate this magic to some degree."’
One of her ears twitched in annoyance, but she quickly hid it. "How... wonderful, to know you could come back literally at any time you wanted... and be away before anypony could say otherwise."
Well, that’s sarcasm if I’ve ever heard it. The fact that her ear twitched only cemented it. She seems to take pride in the fact that she is able to maintain a steady facade. A shame that I’ve had plenty of opportunities to work out her quirks when we fought so long ago. This dinner may prove to be more entertaining than I originally thought.
"You better not leave without saying goodbye," Luna pouted, "I'll never forgive you if you do!"
And yet Luna’s mannerisms are completely throwing me off. Being younger, she was always more expressive, but this is ridiculous!
I chuckled and gave Luna a small smile. "Don't worry, I don't plan on running off unless it's an emergency." My gaze returned to Celestia, my smile quivering slightly. It might be a bit soon to address this, but I rather enjoyed the verbal battles we had in the past. "Yes, would be a real hassle if you needed to keep tabs on an individual. Of course, you could always use a tracking spell."
Celestia visibly stiffened at this, but managed to quickly regain her composure. "Ah, but such spells are untrustworthy. With each rising sun, the strength wanes and eventually such a spell will break, along with other such elements. This 'Void energy' you speak of is something I have researched at length. With each hole young Wade has traveled through the energy eats at normal magic, even Discords Chaos magic isn't proof against it," she said absently.
I nodded, ignoring the new information for now and storing it in the back of my mind. "You're right, a tracking spell is untrustworthy, especially if implemented into an innocent device such as a... watch, for example."
"Hypothetically, a watch would never work at all for such a function, too many moving parts. Such a spell wouldn't work because the gears and such would in effect, 'confuse' it. It would be much better to attach something like that to a static piece of stone, something like that," she replied, lifting her glass and taking a sip.
"While that would be correct for a normal watch, the same rules don't necessarily apply to one that is magic based. Furthermore, the watch would still continue to function correctly should the spell be intertwined with the base mechanisms of said watch," I concluded, examining my drink closely.
I wonder if something was slipped into my drink. Either way, it’s still poison.
"Ah, but initially you made it sound like we were speaking of a normal watch, that had then been modified past that point. And if the base mechanisms were intertwined with such a spell, wouldn't the mechanisms themselves fail should the spell be removed, destroyed, or otherwise?"
This is almost too easy.
"You're correct. I should know, since that's exactly what happened when I removed the tracking spell imbedded within Wade's watch," I ended with a chuckle, carefully tasting the drink. Red wine I believe.
Much to my amusement Celestia unleashed a mighty twitch that was seen from all round the table.
"Auntie, what exactly is he implying?" Cadance asked, confusion dampening her features. Shining Armor himself looked puzzled as he gazed down the table to look at Celestia.
I could see Twilight glaring at me from across the table. It only added to the mirth I felt growing in my chest. It’s so easy to get others riled up.
Luna was looking back and forth between Celestia and me in concern.
After several seconds of silence, Celestia let out a cough, "Well how else am I to find the watch if it breaks? I'm sure Wade told you, without the watch he encounters fainting spells. It would be irresponsible to give him such a gift, and not keep track of it, for his safety."
Twilight seemed satisfied of the explanation, but both Luna and Cadance were looking at her in what I can only describe as... derision. I was rather surprised that Wade didn’t seem offended with such an excuse. I could feel my own anger slowly growing.
I broke the silence with a snort, glaring at Celestia. "Do you really expect me to accept such a pitiful excuse? That you're tracking Wade because you actually care about his well being? No, that's only a consolation prize. I don't know what you're so agitated about but I've got a few theories and enough information to know that it either has to do with the displaced or us humans in general. And if I'm wrong, you can be sure that I will find the answer eventually."
Celestia returned my glare, one eye almost twitching with her effort of keeping a straight face. "Well... seeing as you feel so strongly about this, how about you regale us? I'm sure everypony would enjoy the debate."
I smirked and leaned back in my chair. I felt rather confident with myself all things considering. Perhaps the alcohol had something to do with it. "Well, let's start with my first theory. The first night I was here I was visited by Luna. She told me that humans had visited Equestria in the past, spreading knowledge and wisdom. However, they died out and their presence in Equestria faded into history, and eventually into myth. Despite this there apparently exists cults in this country that wish to bring to life the knowledge that those humans once shared. This knowledge being inventions, concepts, ideas... progress, progress that you don't want. You're afraid of progress, Celestia, afraid of what would happen to this country should such knowledge be let out."
"There is progress, and then there is war. Can you tell me with certainty that no... human has ever perpetrated violence with such so called... progress?" She rebutted, a smile back on her lips.
"Of course I can't. Humans by nature are militaristic and in some cases thrive on violence. And we have made leaps and jumps in military technology. But, that doesn't take away the fact that we have made progress. We've also made progress in good fields of science. Medication is at a new level. We are able to transplant internal organs from one host to another. Diseases that once killed millions have been eradicated from the face of the planet. Most of what you can accomplish with magic can be done with science, sometimes even better."
"Hmph," she let out with a snort. "The last plague Equestria has suffered came along with the humans. We can regenerate organs within a host without needing to stoop to the barbaric methods like cutting open two ponies, just to transfer flesh. Our Nation is doing just fine without such ridiculous trivialities."
"What about regrowing a leg? What happens when a filly or colt is born blind or deaf? what about the Pegasus that can no longer fly? What about the Earth and Pegasus ponies that would benefit from science? Unicorns may have no need of it, but what about the others?"
Celestia let out what I can only describe as a maniacal chuckle. "Starswirl had a favorite saying, based off of an old... 'television play'" she choked out in disgust. "Through the force, anything is possible. I can't claim to understand the reference, but a slight alteration fits my purpose quite well. Through magic, we can accomplish anything. There has not been a birth defect in over twenty four centuries due to our magically bred food. The same has made our pegasus wings and bones extremely durable, and if they did somehow lose a wing, there are spells that could replace them with an alternate..." she said dismissively.
"Oh, yes! I used a spell to give Rarity butterfly wings!" Twilight triumphantly declared, to Celestia's delight. "But... they didn't last very long, and they were kinda fragile..."
"Really now? Well that's funny, because with science we can build wings that have withstood massive storms. But, I'm sure they pale in comparison to butterfly wings. And about Star Swirl, I'm very much aware of what he was like. Of course, when I talked to him, he was willing to look at different points of view." I continued to glare at her, before a wonderful idea came to mind. I smirked in triumph. "I just thought of something rather interesting. Maybe I was wrong about you not wanting that knowledge shared with your ponies. No... maybe you don't want your neighbors to know about it. I'm sure the Griffons, for example, would be very interested in what I have to say, should I be so inclined to visit."
"If they didn't eat you first," Celestia said with a laugh. "And am I to believe you were around at the time of Starswirl? Well that's just odd. Can't say I ever recall him mentioning somepony like you," she said, tenderly nibbling on a piece of celery.
"Wait, Starswirl knew the humans?" Twilight asked. Celestia did a double take, and looked frantic as she was about to say something.
"Knew them? Starswirl was a human, dear Twilight," Luna supplied, while Celestia looked like she just threw up in her mouth.
Well, this just got even better. May as well sit back and watch the fireworks.
"What? N-no, that's wrong! None of the history books say anything about that, all accounts chronicle Starswirl as a unicorn!" Twilight butted in.
"Preposterous. Starswirl’s ponysona was that of an Alicorn, and if he wanted to keep a low profile an Earth pony foal," she rebutted, continuing after she swallowed her food. "I've only seen him take the form of a unicorn a couple times. I hate to say it Twilight, but the book you read must have had a misprint. Don't take a single source to be the most reliable," she chastised.
"But... all sources say he was a unicorn! I achieved my alicornhood based off of a spell he wasn't able to complete!"
"You achieved the state of alicorn through your total and complete understanding of magic, and the friendship intertwined within the concept," Luna said as she shot her argument down. "And what is this nonsense about an uncompleted spell? I knew Starswirl onto his deathbed, and he never mentioned an unfinished spell. He would have told me, anyway."
"But... Starswirl the Bearded... he…" Twilight trailed off sadly.
"And another thing, what is with this title of 'the bearded'? He let his beard grow for one year before keeping it shaved, said it itched something awful, and now every time I hear somepony talk about him it's always 'Starswirl the Bearded'. Doesn't anypony know of his true title?" Luna asked, a slight frown on her face as Celestia desperately motioned for her to be silent.
I remained silent through the entire conversation, sipping at my drink. It was almost half gone and I could already start to feel a buzz. Once there was a pause in the discussion I put down my drink and smiled. "Well, this has certainly been an interesting evening. let's recap it, shall we? Star Swirl was actually a human, Celestia couldn't care less about privacy, most of Equestria's history is likely false fabrications and Celestia can't keep a secret because she makes too many mistakes."
Celestia let out a drawn out sigh, trying to cool her temper more than likely. Wade seemed to be struggling to control himself, his face breaking into a smile sporadically.
"Any mistakes I make are swiftly fixed. And attempting to protect my little ponies from the scourge known as the human race was never a mistake."
Luna sputtered in surprise at her sister's words, and everyone else at the table fell silent.
"Sister, you can not mean-"
"Luna, whom did the Minotaurs attack when they learned of the humans? To where did their armies march, seeking to take by force what our little Merlin had been offered freely?"
"That... that's just-"
"Upon their discovery of the tools, the craft we had found ourselves, who attacked us in a fit of jealousy? As I do believe the General Gore Beak said, 'If we can't have it, then none shall.' The humans are a blight, dearest Luna, even now their presence breeds dissent between families... between us," she mewled plaintively.
"The only dissent I see before me is that which you yourself hath wrought, dearest sister," Luna snapped, having risen from her seat, a look of poorly veiled fury stamped on her face. "You preach about them and how much trouble they bring. How it is their fault for our troubles. The wars would have happened even without their inclusion, and you know this! The only thing they waited for was a reason, if not for the machines then they would have attacked us for our lands, our citizens to use like slaves. The peace is only kept now because those brutes know we control the Sun and the Moon! That is the only reason ours hath been left in peace-"
"If the humans had never come then-"
"IF THEY HADN'T COME THEN EQUESTRIA WOULD NO LONGER BE HERE!" Luna let out with a bellow, slamming her hooves into the table and causing the room to shake.
Celestia looked to be trying to formulate a response to retaliate with, but apparently she thought better of it as she stood up, and walked out of the room with nary a look back.
Twilight looked like she wanted to get up and chase after her, but her brother put a hoof on her shoulder, trapping her in her seat.
After several minutes, where the only sounds to be had were the quieted sounds of food being eaten, and drinks sloshing past pursed lips, Luna let out a pained sigh, and directed her attention towards us once again. "We are truly sorry for our sisters behavior. Tis not her fault, tis for the our little ponies her thoughts doth run," she stated sadly.
She turned towards myself, "Tis true our sister put such a spell within Wade’s magic meter and stabilizer?"
I nodded sadly, forcing myself from wincing as Luna looked at me with sadness. I may have taken this too far. "It is... I was curious about how the watch worked so I took a closer look at it. It was upon my inspection that I found the spell hidden within the mechanisms. You can check it yourself if you want."
I looked to Wade and asked, "Wade, can I please see the watch?"
"Y… yeah," He shakily said, handing it to me with a barely verbalized '~Eximpe~'.
I reached over the table and took the watch from him. I quickly handed it over to Luna. "It's embedded within the core mechanics, hidden underneath all the other spells."
Luna grasped the watch in her magic, closing her eyes in concentration.
"Verily, tis true. We... I can not believe I did not notice mine sister hide this away..." Luna’s voice grew tense, and her brow knitted in anger. "Right under my own nose!" she exclaimed loudly, her magic aura flaring and causing the watch to explode.
A few seconds of heavy breathing, and she regained her composure. "My... apologies. It seems my temper is rising high tonight. I hope you will forgive me friend Wade, I will make it up to you... " she addressed the rest of the table, "I hope you can all forgive me and mine sister our little temper tantrums. Tis not becoming."
I decided to answer for the others. "It's alright Luna. I can understand to an extent why Celestia would keep this swept under the rug, but she should have at least informed you. However, now that it's out, you can talk to her about it in private. Such things shouldn't be kept from those close to you."
Luna shook her head, summoning a sad smile to her lips. "Let us not stay on such a topic, this dinner is supposed to be one of happiness, a time spent with friends and family."
I pursed my lips and nodded, returning to my meal. Going with Luna’s wishes, I turned to Shining Armor and asked him a question, "So Shining, who did you leave in charge of the guard once you became a prince?”
Shining Armor looked surprised at the question, and finally managed to formulate a response. "I'm... I was never the 'head' of the guard. I was one of the captains stationed in Canterlot. I don't know for certain, but I assume they promoted a Lieutenant to take my place, or had a Major step down to take up the slack."
Interesting, so the military of this universe follows Earth's system of ranking. I wonder what my own follows... ?
"Don't you remember honey," Cadance asked, "It was Lieutenant class Ever Bright that took your position. The one that was sweet on that filly who worked in the bakery?"
"The one with the weird mane?" Shining Armor asked, much to his wife’s displeasure.
"It's a popular style nowadays, Shiny," she chastised.
"It's two tufts, one at the front, and another at the back. It's weird." He rebutted.
The rest of the dinner was conducted in relative silence, only broken by a question or two over the course of the meal. Before long it was getting close to the end of dinner, the Sun having set and the moon beginning its arc. I decided to excuse myself first, hoping that the tense atmosphere would lessen without my presence. I bid the rest a good night, shooting Luna a small smile of encouragement on the way out of the room.
As I made my way back to the living quarters, I replayed the night in my mind. Celestia, as I had originally assumed, was nothing more than a tyrant. Yes, one who hinders the advancement of science can be considered a tyrant.
I couldn’t help but dwell on one point I brought up, something that Celestia had avoided: What about Pegasi and Earth Ponies who can’t use magic?
I can see no downside to advancing the sciences to benefit these two groups. It would allow them to be on equal terms with unicorns and could balance out the power within the country. I’ve already noticed that the nobility consists mostly of unicorns.
I sighed as I rolled ideas around in my mind, something I would continue to do until I fell asleep that night.
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Wait, so his low magic was because the watch was draining his.
Interesting.
At least there were no batman jokes
I'm not sure what you were going for here, but adverse doesn't seem to be the word you're looking for, or maybe it is and I'm just reading wrong.
So, Celestia kept the facts of humanities existence to as minimum as she could, and changed them when she could get away with it. Plus, the limitations of science meaning only the unicorns are able to make enough to achieve a fortune, while only pegasi can fly, and earth ponies are natural farmers to a mare or stallion. So, not only does she repress science, she is also a tribalist.
Wow...just wow. Celestia really doesn't like the Earth Ponies or Pegasi. UNICORN MASTER RACE!
Adverse:
preventing success or development; harmful; unfavorable.
I think you're looking for 'well versed' as the 'ad' prefix has negative connotations.
Secondly: Your is possessive. You're is a contraction of 'you' and 'are' so several of the times you've used one or the other has been incorrect.
Finally, a grammar tip. You don't start a sentence with also. I don't care what your excuse is, but properly formatted English doesn't use it as much as you do. It's like you should have been told in middle school, don't start your sentences with addendums like 'and', 'so', and 'because'. This stands for also in the context you use it in. In dialogue, you can just lead into the next line. There are ways to get by and write any work without ever using 'also'. Never use a conjunction at the beginning of a sentence.
Damn, this chapter was intense. Seems Luna has taken a liking towards Robin, but earned enmity from Celestia. BTW, the argument between Robin and Celestia was very well written.
well ,this is worst kind of tyranny in my opinion. A cruel tyrannt pushes his people to better but one like Celestia makes them sheep
6271405 Perhaps adept?
6271480 That sounds a lot better in the context, yes.
I love it when Celestia acts like a bitch and gets put in her place.
Loved watching Celly get called out. :3 I really look forward to Robin throwing a wrench in things by giving the earth ponies/pegasi some sweet, succulent science as well, should that happen. :3
Aaaand this overplayed, and in my opinion nonsensical, version of Celestia's personality combined with OP unicorn magic. Now I'm glad I passed over Wade's story.
6271208 Never helps that Pinkie can break the fourth wall and has a great singing voice. Otherwise, I would have been annoyed by her presence.
There are multiple Celestias and this one's a tribalist. A step down from TCB! Celestia, if you ask me.
That was glorious to read.
Wow. If the Celestia that Robin is familiar with is anything like this one he's going to be shocked at the Celestia in Gilgamesh's universe. I kinda want to write a scene between the two of them.
6271344 Celestia seems a little 'batty' If I do say so myself
6271941
And why isn't robin helping the batty one. After all, he is the assistant
6271424 I agree that Celestia is wrong in repressing progress. For the sake of preventing this from being a Celestia sucks rant, I have a theory on why she does this. I don't think she's a tribalist. I thnk she's scared of becoming irrelevant. She is the goddess of the sun sure, but the advancements that humans could bring to non unicorn ponies and non ponies in general could make her and her sister's current power structure less and less relevent as time goes on. It's selfish and hopfully can be slapped out of her by her more open minded sister.
6271428 but as you say, isn't such Ben Tennyson mentally disturbed/emotionally removed? he was ready and willing to stand by and watch as one whom believed him to be a friend fought to protect their world from eradication, and only stepped in when a child was caught in the crossfire...
should anyone really be taking advice from such a broken man? a man as arguably broken as Adolf Hitler himself
not that I'm saying our favourite broken Ben is a Nazi or anything, but isn't he a bit racist towards his own kind? and not only that, but doesn't he believe that only the ponies of his Equestria deserve his help? *cough*JewsAndAryansRespectively*cough*
Wow, this makes me wonder if Celestia had anything to do with the humans dying out. Sure Luna said only males came and it mght have been impossible for them to breed with ponies (barring magic) but Celestia seems all too glad that the humans are all dead. Makes me think she wishes she could just kill Wade, wipe the minds of everyone who knew about him, and go back to sitting on her fat ass sipping tea and eating cake.
6271603 Each writer does things differently.
6271786 Please, we don't speak of... TCB here. Don't make the children cry!
6271914 I wouldn't say no to that. If Robin plays the part that we have in mind, than he's going to have to interact with Celestia to some extent.
6271941 6272094 Bada-ba-bahda-ba-tsh
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I know, I just hate throwing characters under the 'additional conflict bus' and doing it in such a way that it goes against established personality traits. Admittedly, Celestia doesn't really have much in canon. But this version feels like it is begin sacrificed for the sake of making Luna's and Wade's characters better/more relatable by comparison.
Of course, that's just my perspective on the matter. It is no more valid than the author's, and likely less given the circumstances.
6272305 Sorry. I haven't read TCB, but I didn't know it was THAT infamous.
6271603
You make me sad!~
6272774
I just try to write stuff that sounds good.
6273462
Well, this is awkward.... Especially since I like some of your other work. (Megamane, High School Just Ain't Cutting It, The Mechromancer; To Build the Best, and The Gamer; Displaced Equestria)
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Then why say something so hurtful? Did you just assume I wouldn't go and check up on the other side of a crossover?
I really don't care, any criticism I can get is good, it usually lets me alter my writing in ways that lean towards a better story. While Applegate does have a lot of crossovers, and REALLY HASNT gone anywhere as of yet, I am actually leading it towards a proper adventure arc. It seems I buried that story in slice of life though, I just kept on having to pad out the characters, make them seem more real than they were.
Oh cool, you edited your comment.
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Well, that's a relief. A number of different authors on the site would be far less gracious at accepting criticism.
And I only edited it because I saw you were offline at the time. I figured being more precise would be the better course of action.
6272127 Okay, by that implication, you think the source of energy for plants is largely useless for life. After all, it's not like an entire nation subsists almost entirely on plant matter. Oh wait! Plus, once the herbivores start dying out, every thing else is operating on a starvation clock. Meanwhile, Luna handles the tides, or the movement of massive bodies of water via the moon. So, no matter what, Celestia and Luna would be stuck with a position of doing majorly important things on a daily basis, even if it was just moving celestial bodies.
6271548 check out the Zaku Zaku hour from the Heros of Equestria Displaced fic
6273545 I never said that they would become completely irrelevant, but think about it. No more relying on magic to control the weather, to grow food or cure diseases. No more relying on the element of harmony to proctect the world from evil creatures. Who knows? It could get to the point where through technology or human magic that the other racist could figure out how to raise the sun or have it move on its own.
6274184 Except only pegasi can manipulate clouds, it would cost a lot due the difficulty of refining silicon for the first micro processor, and most modern human technology needs at least one. Hell, it would probably take them a century to shrink a computer from the size of a building to merely the size of a very large room, never minding the comparatively easy task of making non-pegasi and non-gryphons able to fly because they have an able translation already. Then again, they will quickly create the field of mechanical engineering because of its comparatively simple nature.
6274184 6274210 *grabs some popcorn and watches the debate unfold*
6274210 Pegisi (and sometimes unicorns) manipulate the weather with "pegisi magic". It would be difficult (but not impossible) to develope tech to perform that job as well as pegisi do. But if races like the Griffons were to learn human magic.........
The same goes for earth ponies and their earth pony magic that help them grow crops. Modern agricultural tools would allow other races to be able to grow food items of equal quality. Imagine if the settlement of Griffonstone didn't have to rely on magic for their village to be prosperous. But screw them right. Equestria has a monopoly on the magic and they are all that matters. Cause if Celestia cared about all races, she would have sent her ponies to Griffonstone to provide relief by creating better weather,or growing crops.
6274229 Enjoy the show
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6274265 Okay, let me describe a little something that is literally as far as we have gotten in terms of altering weather. Get a high altitude plane, with a dropping system, fuel it up with the appropriate gas and a bunch of chemical containers connected to the dropping system, fill the containers with a cloud seeding mixture, then fly up to the relevant height a day away by wind current, then proceed to drop the cloud seeding mix. Wait two to three days for rain. That is our best attempt at altering the weather. We can make rain clouds. Yes, I admit unicorn magic can do a lot, but it has to be internally consistent, for example, pegasi are confirmed to be able to directly manipulate weather, were as unicorns are the most obviously magical ponies, and earth ponies have a massive biological green thumb by nature in comparison to most other species. Also, yes the primarily carnivorous gryphons need help growing food that's been enriched by the intestines of their prey being fed into the soil. Sort of like what happened between the native Americans and the colonists.
6274229
>Sits down next to Mad, yoinking a fair amount of his popcorns.
6271497 Especially considering that Adverse is an adjective for: preventing success or development; harmful; unfavorable.
It just sounds like Robin's insulting himself with it the way it was. Glad he fixed it.
6274325 Disclamer. This debate is purely for fun. I enjoy these conversation and mean no ill intent by challenging your opinion. I just wanted to make that clear before moving forward. I also do not hate Celestia and believe that canon Celestia would handle this situation better. I am only refering to the Celestia as portrayed by this fic. Love and tolerance forever.
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You would be mostly correct in your assessment if the displaced humans only came directly from our universe. However, this story implies that these displaced humans were altered to the form of creatures and humans from a multitude of different realities and universes. The author has not named the specific universes that these displaced humans were molded from, but they could be from scifi series like Mass Effect and Star Wars to fantasy series like Harry Potter and Elder Scrolls.
The reason why Equestria has a bare minimum military is because they know that they have all the magic and the other races rely on them because of it. If these displaced humans came along and started sharing non magic based tech and teaching non unicorns the arcane arts, it would eliminate their reliance on Equestria. And while I don't know of any specific scifi, fantasy or anime that involves controlling the sun and moon, I'm sure it's out there some where. That possiblitiy alone makes this a problem in Celestia's eyes.
what about authors who make grammar mistakes? THIS IS AN ISSUE PEOPLE!
Welp
, that happened!
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6292162 its pernouce pegasigh (what's the diffrents exactly)
6927958 Mountain simply has an issue with capitalizing the first letter of some of his sentences and some proper nouns. I, being someone who likes to edit and write myself, can find it physically painful to see the same grammatical errors multiple times. I do know that I'm nitpicking but I do get perturbed by semi-frequent errors.
6292162 you're one to talk, XD. Gammatically that sentence you wrote was terrible.
6927958 pernounce?
7361991
Haha, that was intentionally done! I don't do it any more, even though poor Mountain still has plenty of capitalization errors...
In layman's terms. They know That's Bullshit.
And Celestia's mask of benevolence crumbles to dust and reveals the face of a tyrant.