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Welcome to the "Christian Bronies" Group!


This is a place for Christian Bronies to have multiple discussions on what it means to be a Christ follower in a group of people who, more often than not, do not believe in and/or Christ, and also a place to just worship freely. Tell us about how Christ is working in your life, bring us prayer requests, talk about your struggles, whatever you want to bring forward in a Christian setting.

If you do not follow Christ, you are more than welcome to come and chat with us. Question us, challenge us, or just hang out and talk pony without the vulgarity that can come from this fandom. We're not exclusive here. :twilightsmile:

-Group Founder, primalcorn1


The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.Mark 12:31


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It’s been a few weeks. I would still welcome your response, but for now I’ll give my thoughts.

I’m asking why you believe god exists and your answer is that he saved you from delusion. I would argue that your belief in god is a delusion itself, but we don’t need to go that far.

Suppose you were suffering delusions and a belief in god helped you get over them, cool. How do we know that it was an external magical being called god that helped you? Maybe it was just that the beliefs acted like a placebo and helped you get over your issues. Perhaps other things, like professional treatment or community support, helped you overcome your challenges and now you are simply crediting the Improvment to the equivalent of an imaginary friend. I don’t know what the cause of your recovery was, but I do know that when we are looking at potential causes we can only appeal to possible causes if we want to be rational. Is the placebo effect possible? Yes, we know that’s a real thing it could be a cause. Is community support, western treatments (Counseling, medication, etc...) a possibility? Yes, we know these things exist so they could be the cause. Could the Force, the energy field from Star Wars that all the Jedi and Sith get their magic powers from be the cause? Well, we don’t have any reason to thing the Force is real. It’s never been proven. I’m not saying it’s impossible, but without a demonstration we can’t say that it is possible. If we don’t even know it exists then we definitely can’t appeal to the force as a possible (let alone likely) explanation for your recovery!
To say that your recovery is proof of the force is backwards. First you need to show the force, then you can say the force is the cause of certain phenomena. It’s the same with your god. Saying he cured you isn’t proof, it’s just an empty assertion. Prove your god first, and then you can appeal to him as the cause of things.

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I’m not sure I follow you. Can you expand on that?

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He save me from delusion

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Why do you believe that?

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Jesus is my Lord and Savior He died for my Sins and risen swallowed death.

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Dang, lol, I haven’t been on this site in ages!
I Think the best place to start with is: what do you believe?

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What are your questions about Christianity?

Hello EveryBrony.

You know. I generally don't pay attention to the groups my story gets added to.

So, it's been nearly two years since I checked out my story's 'groups' and surprise, surprise, I see a group called Christian Bronies.

So, here I am introducing myself.

I am a Christian. I've struggled with 'being' a Christian for about 40 years.

But recently, about 3 years ago, through constant failure, I reached rock bottom and threw myself wholly and totally at the feet of the Lord. Confessing my absolute inability to perform the christian walk, to 'be good', I gave myself (In prayer) to the Lord's judgement. 'Right here, right now' as the saying goes.

And - he accepted me! He didn't turn away from me, from my failures. And since that time, I have come to recognize that 'peace which passes understanding'. It's a real thing.

Since my story was already added to your group, and not by myself, I wish to thank whoever did that.

When I started writing my story. There were all manner of stories written where the authors projected their very worldly attitudes and desires into MLP. Distorting it's beautiful premise quite badly.
But I wanted to examine the following. What if the MLP universe was real. And how would a real Christian react in a real-world encounter with a real pony.

My main character, Mike, is not a perfect Christian, but he knows what is important.
As for my other main character,Twilight (because Twilight is Best Pony!)... Well I'm trying to show how she would react to meeting a real human. Lucky for her, he's a Christian!

Bye for now.

https://t.co/ueKl4YYniy Wanted to share this with you guys. Go with God. And please be here for me when I have trouble with faith.

Family Force Five is the best band ever!

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αναπαύσου εν ειρήνη Pastor Stoecklein, and the Lord's Spirit of Healing be with your family and friends.

R.I.P. Andrew Stoecklein, a pastor who commited suicide this year...

Link to help support the Stoecklein family in this difficult time: https://www.gofundme.com/careforkayla

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No, it’s a lie when you claim that I’m “butthurt over the continued existence of Christians” when that’s not my position.
Are you actually reading my posts, or do you just read the first sentence or two and respond?

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It's a lie to ask why you're talking to me instead of the muslims?

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No, that’s another lie on your part. I denounce rape when it’s committed by anyone, Muslim or otherwise. Quite separately from the question of human rights violations, both Islam and Christianity make claims about reality that haven’t been demonstrated. I therefore don’t believe them.

I honestly don’t even know if there is anything we disagree on.
We agree that some followers of Islam commit evil actions in its name.
We agree that the Middle East is a hotbed of problems and human rights violations.
We agree that all religions make stupid claims.
We agree that some christians are nice people.
We agree that churches can add value to people by providing a supportive social network.
I don’t believe that there is a god, you haven’t made you position on this clear.

I think we are on the same page here. Is there anything that I’m missing?

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The truth of reality? How's this for reality? You're getting butthurt over the continued existence of Christians while Muslims are raping people all over europe.

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I in fact am here to have an honest conversation about the truth of reality. Part of my commitment to truth includes me pointing out when you (or anyone) admits defeat in a conversation by insulting their counter part, lying, or just spouting irrelevant nonsense.

Can you make your mind up over whether this is an honest discussion about religion, or a debate over whether you're right to hate Christianity? You can't have it both ways.

I’m trying to have an honest conversation (not debate) about religion, you are the one that is refusing to do so. I don’t hate Christianity, I am simply of the opinion that it is untrue.

I've seen your type before, and you aren't interested in honest discussion. You're interested in "Pwning Christians". Insulting them until they insult you back, so you can play the victim.

I make a point to never consider myself a victim, this is simply you projecting again (just like most of the other insults and untruths you’ve asserted about me). I haven’t insulted or attacked you once this whole time. Feel free to quote me and prove me wrong.

If that one idiot couldn't convince me his "We are all in le simulation" theory was worth a damn, how could I convince you Family Guy was wrong about Christianity?

I wasn’t part of your previous conversation with this guy. I would urge you to actually read what I am saying instead of assuming my point of view has anything to do with previous people you have talked to. This is not the first time you brought up family guy. I like that show and watch it occasionally, but it doesn’t inform my position on religion at all. I don’t even know what you are referring to within Family Guy, there’s at least one episode where Jesus visits Quahog, something that I obviously think isn’t realistic. Instead of assuming that I agree with family guy, you should ask me what my opinion is.

I’m really tired of you bringing up this garbage about Islam. Yes there are bad things happening in the Middle East, and around the world for that matter. Islam, like any dangerous ideology, needs to be opposed. I agree with you. You tell me to join the right side of history... you have no idea what my position is because all you do is assume. I don’t know what your position is because you refuse to answer any questions at all.

It’s funny that you are calling me dishonest when all I’ve really done is fact check your posts and ask you questions. You on the other hand have lied almost every post. For example, when you say:

Stop serving your muslim overlords

You are lying by implying that I am serving Muslims somehow.
Lets try to start over. Ask me a question and I will answer it as best as I can. Then I’ll ask you a question and you answer it as best as you can. Let’s try not to bring up things that have nothing to do with Christianity, like Islam and Family Guy.

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Bruh.

You're pretending to be an honest person interested in honest discussion, but you aren't good at it. You keep letting the mask slip. You keep saying shit like "Well I guess you lose" and "You have admitted defeat". Can you make your mind up over whether this is an honest discussion about religion, or a debate over whether you're right to hate Christianity? You can't have it both ways.

I've seen your type before, and you aren't interested in honest discussion. You're interested in "Pwning Christians". Insulting them until they insult you back, so you can play the victim. If that one idiot couldn't convince me his "We are all in le simulation" theory was worth a damn, how could I convince you Family Guy was wrong about Christianity?

People are being raped in the Middle East, right now. People are being child-trafficked from the UK into the Middle East and the government is prosecuting, arresting, and torturing anyone who speaks poorly of our new muslim overlords.

Stop serving your muslim overlords, and either find a new hobby or join the right side of history.

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I’m interested in truth. I make a point not to attack people, but questioning and discussing ideas is fair game. When you stop talking about ideas and, as you admit, start insulting me as a person... that demonstrates clearly that you aren’t interested in actually examining your beliefs.
I don’t take just anything you say as proof that you are retreating from the conversation, just the insults and nonsequitors. For example: if you asserted (without evidence) that I seem like a boneheaded wannabe intellectual that’s here to harass christians because I’m too cowardly to harass other religions... I would consider that another example of you dodging questions. You are welcome to not answer questions, you could just not respond or respond and say that you aren’t interested in continuing. I’m not going to try and count that as a win or anything. But dodging questions and coming back with insults or irrelevant tangents shows that you want to feel vindicated while knowing that you are wrong (in my opinion).

I’ll take a moment and answer your questions here (even though I already addressed the topic) to give you an example of how it’s done. Hopefully you can learn from how I do it and answer my questions.

Why not ask a Muslim why he’s a Muslim?

I have asked that question to muslims before, both online and in real life. That’s one of the first questions I asked you about Christianity. The answers I’ve gotten are usually more substantial then the ones you have provided, but ultimately no more or less valid then I’ve heard from any other religion.

Why not ask a Muslim why he believes women should have no rights,

I would never ask that question (at least I wouldn’t lead with it) because it assumes that the Muslim I’m talking to believes that women shouldn’t have rights, something that many clearly believe but many more do not. I would start with the question: ‘what do you believe in regards to woman’s rights?’ And then I’d ask: ‘why?’. This way I’m actually having a conversation about their beliefs instead of making assumptions, talking with them instead of at them, and not setting them on the defensive.

non-muslims should be taxed for being non-muslims, and the world should be subjugated under Islam? Why not ask a Muslim why he would choose to follow a genuinely violent and hateful religion?

All these questions make assumptions about what the person I’m talking to believes. Like I mentioned, assuming doesn’t help a conversation at all. Islam really isn’t any worse than Christianity, except it is a few centuries younger and hasn’t been reformed to be compatible with western enlightenment values.

Why not turn your sole talent for annoying people towards a good cause?

I reject all of the assumptions you make in this question. I reject the idea that I only have one talent, you know nothing about me and have no basis to make a claim like that so it’s clearly just another insult meant to take the attention away from the actual ideas we could be discussing. I reject the implication that my posts are only annoying people. I believe I’m annoying you, but that’s your problem. I’m being calm, polite, and rational to the best of my ability. I also reject the idea that annoying muslims with these loaded questions you propose is a ‘good cause’. All questions like these would do is piss off and marginalize the muslims I’m talking to. There are millions of muslims around the world that share our secular western values and practice a less conservative Islam, just like most christians. Those muslims need to be empowered and supported in every way they can be. One of the best ways to support someone is to honestly seek to understand them. That’s what I try to do whenever I converse with someone.

I’ll end this with a pair of questions to you meant to help me understand you without making any assumptions: What do you mean when you call yourself a Christian? What is the definition of Christian that you are using?

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Why would you take an insult as proof that I'm "Aware dat I am wong" instead of proof that I don't like you and I don't see any point in continuing to talk to you? Oh, right, because you'll take anything I say as "Proof dat im wong".

You seem like a boneheaded wannabe-intellectual who's here to harass christians, because you're too cowardly to harass any other religion.

Why not ask a Muslim why he's a Muslim? Why not ask a Muslim why he believes women should have no rights, non-muslims should be taxed for being non-muslims, and the world should be subjugated under Islam? Why not ask a Muslim why he would choose to follow a genuinely violent and hateful religion? Why not turn your sole talent for annoying people towards a good cause?

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