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I'm torn. I am enjoying the story, but I am getting impatient for the clop.
Good thing it looks like a little of the clop is almost here.
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lol, sorry. I know there was quite the build up to it.
It starts next chapter!
Then you might start getting sick of it lol.
love it
ehhh......I dunno. It really felt like 90% of the erotic moments in this chapter were way too forced. I'm basically an exhibitionist and my wife is a nudist and even we wouldn't have done half the things you had Twilight and Rainbow do while we had company over.
Simply not caring about whether or not you're naked in front of other people is one thing, but going out of your way to be so blatantly sexual about it is another. Even rationalizing it by saying that the ponies are "them", that doesn't change the fact that they are NOT the same as their human counterparts. And I don't just mean physically.
I know horny teenagers that have more self-control than you gave Twilight and Rainbow.
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Rainbow was doing it on purpose. She wanted to drive Twi up the wall with desire and she wants the ponies to join in (or will anyway).
Rainbow was going out of her way to be blatantly sexual, she was teasing Twi over not getting any last night.
Twi's finding the situation embarrassing and oddly erotic. Much to her surprise.
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That's... um... I'm not sure how I feel about that or what it means for the rest of the story.
I can totally see Rainbow Dash being a bit of a sexual predator, especially with someone that's she close to (and dating), but I'm having a bit of difficulty with accepting how you're writing her human counterpart so far. I mean, they meet the pony versions of themselves, and her first instinct is "time to start an inter-species orgy." There's a lot that's questionable about that. It's one thing for Rainbow to be teasing Twilight over not getting any last night, but this is pressing the whole blunt and crass thing even for Rainbow Dash when they have guests from another world and one of them is obviously having problems with the whole scenario.
It really takes the insensitivity angle of Rainbow Dash and overplays it. I'm more sketched out than anything by the end of the chapter with human Twilight barging in on pony Dash and demanding they bump uglies. I get that this is a clopfic, but the way it's presented with all of these chapters of lead up suggest that it's more like a story that has sex in it rather than just a story about sex so I expect a little more from it. Right now I'm wondering why the heck Rainbow is trying so hard for an orgy with ponies instead of eagerly anticipating the next chapter. There's libido, but then there's character-breaking unexplained sexual drive for the sake of getting to the sex because the author wants to get to the sex.
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OH SHOOT!!
That was meant to be Rainbow that she barged in on lol.
GOOD FIND!!
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Oh.
Well that makes it a lot less sketchy and a lot less questionable.
I'd still say that my concerns about human Dash instantly wanting an inter-species orgy still stands, though.
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Right now it's more just teasing, Rainbow truly does see Twilight as Twi.
The shirt was largely just to screw with her gf, and after sleeping with Twilight... Well it left an impression on her that lets her see past the fact she's a pony (covered more next ch)
Rainbow's teasing causes Twi to be flustered and does the same to Twilight, it's a two birds one stone situation for her.
Wat?! I thought there was more!
6184824 To each their own, I can wait a long time for it, if this was just simple clop I'd already have stopped reading.
6185055 I think that your concern over the "inter-species orgy" is possibly a bit mis-placed (then again don't know exactly where it came from) they are all of age individuals with the ability to consent, not problem there.
However, this actually brings up another problem... and that is of the sexual action the humans have both made towards the ponies... its true that both the ponies secretly enjoyed the experiences but it is totally uncool of both the humans (who happened to be in control of the situation) to do these things both kiss and then tease them selves with the ponies... its going to turn out all right because the ponies seem to be enjoying themselves, but it would be much better practice for the two humans to ask permission next time!
I so wanted to scold
RainbowTwi! No means no.Hell yes! My body is ready!
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When did anybody say 'no'?
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My bad I forgot it was Twi who kissed Dash...
Also even if Dash hadn't directly said no, her action are indicating a "soft no", i.e. indicating no through other means such as an excuse or body language. I will consider that our society does not respect the soft no, and that we often consider a soft no as some sort of challenge e.x. girl gives a guy the cold shoulder at a club, the guy just tries harder.
This idea of the soft no is still relatively new, and there is a lot of thought and practice to be put into understanding it, but if we start to respect it then we as a people will take steps forward in effectively dealing with many social problems.
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Oh, I thought you were referring to a different scene...
i'm too used to people taking the idea of the 'soft no', as you put it, too far. Usually comically.
6185703 Yeah nothing comical about a soft no... had too many friends in the socially created zone of "I'm not supposed to say no", and ended up doing things that did not want to do...
On a less downer note, here is my predictions for the next chapter:
Now that Twi has satisfied her need to jump Rainbow, she realizes that they need to figure out once and for all if they are exactly the same (plus get Twilight laid) and therefore spends the next three days coming up with a 4000 question survey to give each person and pony to determine if their minds in fact work the same, then followed by book the science labs and some how getting a cat scan machine to determine if their brains are in fact the same.
(I want to see this for two reasons 1. I like super nerdy Twilight and 2. I dont think enough people have complained about the lack of clop so far )
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There are mature/sex stories I love that are as good as clop-less, but reading this one I could tell it wasn't going to be like that.
If this was just going to be a simple PoE fic then I could enjoy it on that level, but it's clear that this story is destined to be cloppier than that, leading to my impatience.
Then they fuckedNah, to easy...6185779
I was referring to people who do not believe that nonverbal consent exists, and anything short of that is rape.
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How much you're bothered by this IMO is going to depend a great deal on how you view "alternate versions of you." Human Rainbow in this has already expressed her view (that if she were to do something to Pony Dash, or Pony Dash did something to her, she would consider it masturbation as she views the pony version as the same as herself). You can certainly disagree and might treat them differently if the same were to happen to you (treating them as guests and separate individuals who simply look, act, think, ect... like you) but given that you know how she views it, can you not see how her actions look to her?
As for her actions and Pony Dash being uncomfortable... Pony Dash was uncomfortable because Human Dash forced her to confront her feelings regarding Twilight, it really wasn't much to do with Human Rainbow's open sexuality at all nor did Human Dash really do anything to them (beyond walking around mostly nude). And again, to her, she is doing this in front of "herself", her committed girlfriend, and another version of her committed girlfriend, not strangers, guests, or friends. Until she starts doing it in front of strangers or the like (or ignoring the ponies if they told her to stop... which they did not, other than Dash telling her forcefully to stop talking about Twilight by kicking her, which she did stop doing for the most part) I'm willing to let it go and not judge her too harshly for her viewpoint. She isn't necessarily "wrong" nor "right" for thinking of them that way.
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I agree on the 'soft no' to a point.
The issue (and people may disagree here) is that we socially punish women that enjoy sex. (list off whatever names you wish). As such those that do enjoy it have to play the 'soft no' game in order to do what they enjoy without the social stigma, (He wore me down is better then I wanted to jump his bones).
This has caused guys to be trained to see the soft no as a challenge, (she didn't say No (hard no) so that means there is a chance if I can overcome the soft no) Is it wrong? Yea... but it's a learned behavior. It'll stop when we stop naming and socially punishing women for enjoying sex, and therefore letting them say what they want without playing such games.
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Thank you!!!
Every character in a story is going to have their own POV about what happens, in this case Rainbow does see the pony versions as nothing more than themselves. She has no qualms about acting the way she does to them for that reason. While people may disagree and have different point of views on the subject, it's not them in the story.
The only true violation was when Twi picked up Dash and kissed her, which was more akin to kissing your little brother or sister on the forehead to her. Yeah they may hate it, but the fun was the reaction they gave to it, not the act.
As far as being nude, well, it's a small room, only so much space. Privacy is a luxury
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one ch a week lol
They do keep getting bigger though
This is so much like a twidash comic series I'm planning out it's not even funny. Boob pillows, interspecies love snuggles, anatomy exploration and sexual curiosity, humans kissing their pony partner on the nose , even the boob to muzzle bit.
Get out of my head, man.
But seriously, never stop.
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Great minds think alike? lol.
(/jk, I've seen your work, I'm not as talented as you)
I'm glad you like it.
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I know she was doing it on purpose. That was never in doubt. My whole point was that doing that on purpose feels forced rather than how a normal person would act in that situation.
Wanting the ponies to get in on it was a little unexpected, especially since Rainbow is the one that keeps treating them like normal ponies periodically, but I'll buy that explanation for things on her end, even if only because she's not the type to think things through before jumping in with both feet.
But it still feels odd that Twilight would just go along with it. Especially since it's very obvious that Twilight does not share Rainbow's view on their pony versions being the exact same as them, at least not to the point of sexing them up being nothing more than masturbation. And unless I'm just misreading their relationship, it didn't seem like they made a habit of inviting random people to join them in their fun.
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btw...
I CAN'T WAIT FOR THAT COMIC!!!!
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For Twi it's more about accepting Rainbow's eccentricities. She's learned to pick her battles, and as much as she knows she shouldn't, she is enjoying this. (hinted at a few times).
Being in a relationship with Rainbow for as long as she has, it's taught her to let stuff slide. 'It's just how Rainbow is.'
If she wasn't enjoying it on some level, or the ponies were truly hating it, or offended, she'd put a stop to it.
They're not, she's not, so it's not a fight worth having.
Yes it's a fine line, and yes they may (or may not) cross it in a future ch... but they're walking it lol
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Pfft "Not as talented"
Writing is an art form too, my friend.
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Comic *Series
as in: multiple comics
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Yeah, that's fair, but a couple things still skeeving me out about this are the fact that she's so... almost out-of-character callous about it. More than that, what's weirding me out is how she wants/has no problems boning something that is basically the size of a housecat, as per the description of their size relative to a little kid in chapter two.
I mean, I can get behind them not having a problem as they are all consenting, sentient beings. That's fine. What weirds me out is that she's cool with banging something that is really just an intelligent little cat-sized fuzzy pony that is also another version of herself. Size matters (hue).
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As far as size goes, go by the picture. Everything else was simple hyperbole from Dash's POV.
In ch 3 Rainbow describes them as such:
They can all have fun, they can all consent, and most importantly, it's another version of her gf, so their size isn't a deal breaker to Rainbow lol.
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And the count begins again.
Really enjoying these weekly installments.
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Thanks!
6186332 6186054 You both bring up incredible good points! And both points that bring into view the minefield we have created for our selves in the field of flirting, dating, and the age of the pick up.
6186332 You are right we live in a society that shames women a lot! However, there is another side of the shame coin, and that is the development of "Rape Culture" where women feel like they "deserve" what happens to them, and feel guilty because of they caused it to happen. I agree that the challenge of the soft no is socially trained, but so is the idea of Rape victim guilt.
6186054 Non-verbal Consent is a thing... but it very very different from "She didn't say no" or "she didn't push me away". Non-verbal consent is for example pulling someone in or a woman (or man) using their hands to help thing go to the right places... for me to know Non-verbal consent is consent for sex my partner has to be incredibly active (I still always ask).
To both of you I would point out "A kiss is not a contract"! In both of your points the idea that a person can change their mind at any time (even to the last second) is something that deserves more thought.
I personally believe in honest communication with sexual partners (serious or casual) and try and take people at what they say... sure I may miss out on potential partner who are playing the "hard to get" card or just wont tell me outright what they want, but I find the the partners I do have are a much better fit, because they will actually tell me what they want, and if things progress into a relationship they dont expect me to guess exactly what they want or what they are feeling.
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Please don't get me wrong, I fully agree. However, I also don't want it to get to the point where you need to sign a sex contract before having sex.
It's funny to laugh at, but only because there's a small amount of truth to it.
That's a little dumb to me, but soft no, soft yes, I want to but I don't, it's all games that people play that lead to the issues that we have now. All because we have society 'norms' that punish those who don't fit into nice neat little boxes.
We're never going to fix the problem until we change the way we view sex as a whole. Which would cause everyone to have to accept that their views are the problem and they'd have to change.
Yeah... it's never going to happen. Other cultures do it better, but we're Americans! USA! USA!
6187473 Its never going to change unless we change it... be more sex positive, ask more questions, talk more... sure because of social norms you might not get you dick (or pussy) wet, but you will have better sex when you do!
What if every guy (or girl who is making a move [trying my hardest not to be herteronormative as this is not just a straight peoples problem]) stopped playing the game... we stopped pushing on soft no, ignored the soft yes... society would change almost at once... but obviously that wont happen, not every guy will do that... but all we need it a small number to start the change.
How can we change is two pronged:
1st: Adults should start to take sex as something that isn't a game. I totally "scored" last night, is a incredibly negative thought process, and gives people (generally men) the idea that the more sex you get the more society will respect you. Don't play the game, ask for to share an experience (not in those words that's just creepy) keep it mutual and keep talking.
and
2nd: Better comprehensive sex education. Need an example of sexpostive and comprehensive sex ed... look at the netherland: The case for starting sex education in kindergarten. Yes it is true that there are groups of Americans who will fight this tooth and nail... but many of those are the same Americans who said that we should not allow marriage equality (formally known as gay marriage), it may have taken a while but those who supported the change were just as vocal (and a lot less negative) and although it took a long time change did happen!
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Sounds about right
i have a question, and possibly a suggestion
i feel like there is a vacancy between these lines, so firstly i have to ask if Rainbow had gotten out of the bed, tried going up to Twi to strip her, but then Twi stopped her, either with just her words, or did she have to physically resist Rainbow? also, if Rainbow got up to try to take that shirt off of Twi, then there is a bit of a lapse of time where the writing takes for granted that Rainbow is already back in bed.
if i could suggest an edit to make this more clear, now i'm just winging it, and it is your story, but i was thinking maybe...
there, i hope this suggestion doesn't suck. by the way, i sort of stopped reading to make this comment, so there may be more comments from me later, lol. i love you
okay, i'm going to roll with it no matter what, but this sounds a bit unrealistic, lol
i'm going to let it slide, but not without pointing out speculations, first off, i should mention you have a double space between "things" and "worse". and now my speculations...
is this a desert city that the temp drops 20 degrees? especially consider it's indoors, is this just poor insulation? no heating? it's so cold to make a furred animal shiver but not cold enough for humans under blankets to notice that they need a space heater?
okay, i'll shut up now. you don't have to change it, because it's obvious this is a plot device to make RD regret not being under the covers, but it's a tad bit exaggerated i think, lol
mate, within the context of the bathroom scene, was this said by human RD or pony RD? i know you normally have it say Dash, but in this case it doesn't make sense to me considering the next line. can you elaborate this part a bit?
also, while i'm here
did you mean the human Twilight, as in Twi?
okays, i got through the chapter, should i compile my comments together or no? i mean, i'm probably gonna delete a lot of this stuff after it's addressed anyway.
i gotta say, things are getting interesting, heating up pretty well without eating all the cookies from the jar. so i can say that i enjoy this story so far, but aside from my current point outs, i have one last question, what is their TV like? i recall stating they had to put it away, where do they put it? is it like one of those entertainment stands with small doors or something?
anyways, get back to me about these things whenever you can
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Yeah that was a little confusing, cleaned it up so it better states what i meant it to say.
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I've lived in some crappy places lol, (Alaska) While a little exaggerated for the story, this is not that unusual for me.
Also temp is rather relative, it's a lot colder where they are now then in Equestria. As such even a small temp drop during the night would cause them to feel it. (Combine that with people going to bed, lights and electronics being turned off, it all adds up)
For the most part it's an old building, poor insulation, shared bathroom, heat gets turned off after a certain time to save money. It gets cold at night
You're right though, it was just a plot device lol
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Oh, good finds, Yes I still screw up the names myself. (even with 4 others looking it over lol)
it should be
If Dash is used in the name, it's the pony version. Otherwise we're talking the human version.
Damn... did it again, yep it should have been Twi.
It's a 32" flat screen that's on a TV cart. Twi has a nicely marked (and labeled) spot for it in her wall locker lol.
Thanks for looking out, and don't worry about deleting your comments, I'd rather you leave them up.
For better or for worse, this story's approach to consent is equivalent to one of the less rapey stories on Literotica. After spending a lot of time there, I tried to write something with more of an emphasis on consent, and when I showed it to other writers, they reacted with horror, because "less rapey than Literotica" is still pretty dang rapey. FIMfiction has more porn that respects consent (such as Like Fine Wine), but for some stories, it needs to be accepted that "This is a typical porn story. It will have the tropes that typical porn stories have." (And that's on the author's part, too, since you can't market it to people who won't read that kind of story.)
6188727 ah okays, so Rainbow was implying that she was going to take off Twi's shirt in response to Twi wearing Rainbow's shirt?
6188736 ah alright, i get ya, i see what you mean and i'm thankful you elaborated this
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exactly,
It's a little complicated to word correctly lol.