Since I've gotten numerous requests, I thought I'd put this here instead of answer each and every one of them.
To those who are requesting the use of Dainty Dish in your stories and other works, I am granting you permission.
Feel free to use Dainty Dish all you want.
I have only two stipulations.
1: Credit me for her creation.
2: Read and understand the following physical and psychological factors that make up her character.
Physical:
- She is an import of the SR-71 Blackbird. Her profile and flight characteristics will always follow that as shown in the story.
- Dainty easily tires. Strenuous physical activity will exhaust her in a short amount of time.
- You may note a lot of the time, various pegasi hovering or otherwise participating in casual flight activities. Because dainty tires, she will never do this. She is either strictly walking/trotting around, or FLYING... Forward, at decent levels of speed. As such, activities such as popping up a few stories to look in windows, or land on balconies, etc... Are technically not possible for her. Her stopping distance would result in her fumbling this otherwise simple move. And she will never be caught in hovers.
- Dainty's allergies aggravate her constantly, but even with her, there are breaks in the misery on the ground, just like with real people. A relatively clean room will dramatically reduce her sneezes, and all but eliminate attacks.
Psychological:
- First of all, Dainty's three favorite things, in order: Are 1: The feeling of friction heat blasting her nose (clearing her sinuses). 2: Cashews, 3: Photography.
- Dainty dish has low Self-Esteem. She is not 'timid' like fluttershy. She is in fact, rather outgoing. She does however, have a low opinion of herself, and can be easily beaten in an argument, pressured by peers, and otherwise browbeaten into submission by anyone with a stronger personality. This leaves her prone to accaisional bouts of explosive anger that quickly turn to crying. Understand this distinctiveness between her and Fluttershy.
- Dainty is incredibly smart. About on par with Twilight Sparkle... Though, Twilight's years of studying put her much further ahead in technical knowhow. Dainty's intelligence doesn't show as clearly, coming up rather in her seeming ease at understanding things, and a very exacting nature, explained in the next point.
- Dainty is exacting. Certain things are done certain ways, and those ways only. Not because she likes them, but because they are CORRECT. Imagine Twilight in 'Lesson Zero' concerning the cupcakes and the frosting. Imagine Dainty is like that ALL THE TIME, but more subtle and with things that matter from a technical standpoint. ("No, do it this way, it works better!")
- When Dainty's exacting nature comes into question, she can become extremely, explosively defensive about them. As seen in this story, when her camera skills were questioned (something she does in a very VERY exacting manner), she fights back.
What's the pony code for Generalzoi?
i credited you in my story. i only mentioned her very briefly, as comparison in speed.
Okay, good rules there. I shall remember them. Thank you! :D
This might sound a bit odd, but I'd like to go over it with you to make sure that I'm not deviating from character: If she were to have seen something very unusual, say, during a recon run, something that would have "tactical" implications, would it behest her to perform a wide radius turn in the stratosphere to investigate with her camera? That is, would it be strange for her to forgo on her assigned run if she saw something really out of the ordinary to take pictures?
Additionally, I know that she has her HYCON, but it always sort of struck me that she might also have excellent eyes herself, kind of akin to a personification of the Blackbird's recon suite. I'm not saying that she'd have eyes that would rival her camera, but much like a high-performance pilot, perhaps a fighter pilot, would require, she would have very perceptive vision. Would this be too-farfetched to use?
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I would say 'no' on the first question. Real blackbird missions were practically choreographed dances and everything was almost ALWAYS planned out long before hand on the ground. At most, if she spotted something odd, She'd snap her camera on it and get the best shot she could get without having to make a deviation. Then later she'd make a trip to that target. Chances are, anything short-term worthy of her notice isn't going anywhere fast enough to know to get the heck up out of the way and hide when she's taking photos.
As for having good eyes. I would give her 20x20 vision. But nothing too fancy. At 17 miles high, there's not much she can look at that's very meaningful to her. Especially not when it's there, then gone so fast. Apply her photographic memory (like when she listed the Hycon's values in story after hearing it only once) to whatever she sees.
Cool. Appreciate the rapid response.
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first i just wanna say as the story goes its great! but theres just one fact you got messed up that messes the whole story up for me....
and that is the speed at which a sonic rainboom happens is way different than when a sonic boom happens..... one shatters sound the other light..... i'm not sure if you seen the video on youtube or not but it mathematically proves RD has to do over MACH 5 just to even do the sonic rainboom so already faster than..........blackbird
here i'll just send you link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muVfidujxRg
but again as a story goes its great
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Mach 6.2 is the calculation based off the Mach Cone if I recall from memory. However, that math is inherently flawed on principle. Because the show is animated, the instance of the 'mach cone' is not based on technical fact, but on style. It's used to show someone 'yes, we're going REALLY fast right now', but not actually based on anything of usable fact.
Using it to determine anything 'hard' is worthless. It is also inconsistent, as in a dead-vertical dive, assuming Cloudsdale in 'Sonic Rainboom' was at eight thousand feet to ten thousand feet (A comfortable temperature and pressure altitude), Rainbow Dash would have covered the distance between the arena and the ground in under a second and hit the ground with the force a little under half her weight in TNT. On top of this, her 'shown' speed is far less than mach 6.2 (Mach six point two is around or a little above 2 miles per second. 11,000 feet would be about two miles high.)
In order to be consistent, she would have to be much, MUCH higher than possible in that scene. (
330,000 feet, well above breathable atmosphere.)
Since the logical math between her mach cone, her time to cover distance, and her displayed onscreen speed are all in conflict, I can only toss them out and go with what was obviously intended by the sonic (rain)boom. And that is that the event is her passage of the Mach One eveleope, not Mach Six. As there is no special transition effects when someone goes hypersonic.
Trust me, if Dash did anything even CLOSE to mach 3, let alone mach 6, in a dead vertical dive like that she'd cover the distance so fast we wouldn't have time to make it a dramatic scene.
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To answer your queries/questions/nitpicks.
On breathing. Dainty breathes VIA 'Ram Air'. If it's enough oxygen to keep the afterburners of the Blackbird Lit, it's enough for her to breathe. Beyond that, I'm not going to overthink it.
On the allergies vs altitude bit, same deal. I'm not going to try and overthink the situation.
Because in all honesty, I looked over it. And we're looking at a show in which anvils can be dropped on character's heads witout killing them, the sun and moon are controlled by animals, and a pegasus can hit mach one. Try and take the science too hard and you end up trying to rationalize everything.
So I don't. The science I apply is more as a guideline than hard-science. It allows for consistency, but I stop short of actually sitting down with a calculator and calculating the Lift/Drag ratio, or thinking about the fact that at Mach 3, Dainty's nose wouldn't be heatblasted, but rather the flesh would be melted right off her bones (which would then incinerate)
So the rationality is: 'It's a kids show in a looney-toons-esque world. Science is considered, but only enough to keep things consistent.'
Absolutely loved it! I totally want to give Dainty a hug!
*Quivers in anticipation.*
Brilliant, brilliant story. Just need to introduce an A12 pony now
Excellent story! Now you've got me thinking about how to turn the military aircraft I work on into a pony.
i know theres a lot of holes in the cartoon and much of what you said is true and i agree but the fact is.........
its cannon so therefore legit
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Not seeing any point in which 'mach 6 rainbow dash' is declared cannon. All I've seen is that physics presentation and that the guy got some toys for doing such an entertaining and bang up job. So pardon me if I don't take your word on it.
Allow me to correct myself: E.S. Posthumus' Lepcis Magna is a far superior representation of Dainty Dish's flight than Cuzco was. The rough, hard-drum opening represents the turbulence she must suffer, and just as one believes it is about to explode, the song settles instantly into a smooth, flowing piece, reminding me of her initial transcension through the Mach barrier.
I probably over-think this. I just love Dainty Dish too much She will forever hold the place as my #1 favorite pony.
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*Shrug*
No worries. She's modelled after an airplane that is in itself, almost sueish. Kinda' unavoidable.
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The appendix really helped to clear things up. Glad I finished the story.
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While I respect your opinion and see where you are coming from, I have to disagree on your points. The mane six are far from being the best at what they do, they are simply the main characters of the show. They are often outdone by several 'backround ponies' at their chosen craft and are even inspired by them to become better. Having somepony better than Rainbow Dash is not only possible, but statistically has to happen since we all know that there is always somepony better.
Please keep in mind that when ATC made Dainty Dish, he stated that he wanted to make a pony that embodies the SR-71...which DD most certainly does. What does the Blackbird do? Take pictures at high speeds and altitude. What does DD do? Take pictures at high speeds and altitude. That doesn't mean that she has two special talents, it just means that both things are required for her special talent to even exist.
ATC once compared DD and RD to an SR-71 and an F-18 respectively in the forums (changed to F-22 after Mach Two started) and it fits. RD is a fast flyer with ridiculous agility and staying power. DD is fast on a straight line...that's it. Her allergies and limitations at flying developed her flying style...which eventually made her three times faster than RD even though she's not red.
The allergies are part of who DD is just as much as how dirty air and such would ruin an SR-71's day. Dainty is simply adhering to the same limitations that the Blackbird had. Her being allergic to most things is just a reflection on how the Blackbird needs to be perfectly maintained to be able to do what it does best.
In conclusion, Dainty Dish is a great character that embodies practically every aspect of the very plane she was based on. Turning an inanimate object into a pony so precisely is a very hard thing to do. ATC pulled it off wonderfully if you would read what the more aviation-inclined bronies have been saying about it. The man did his research, made a memorable character, and structured the story much like the way an episode of FiM would. I see nothing wrong with Dainty being faster than Dash in a straight line since Dash can mop the floor with her in every other aspect of flying.
My favorite plane as a pony! This was awesome
Absolutely loved the story!
SR-71 Blackbird has been one of my favorite planes since I was very little, and ponies make everything cooler. So having one of your favorite plains turned INTO a pony has got to be amazing
Anyway, I read something that said you wanted us to start making pictures of Dainty, so I gave it my best shot Here it is. Hope it is up to par!
Sometimes I put the second music on loop from the start till the end of the first verse, imagine Dainty holding RD in her hands on the edge of space and cry... and I'm so happy...
97200 Um, are you even reading the same story? Did you not notice Rainbow Dash handed DD her ass on a platter during the race? DD cant pull a turn like RD. DD does not have the stamina at the altitudes RD normally flies. She does not pop off the starting line like a bullet from a gun like RD. She can do one thing RD cannot; that is fly ridiculously fast AT ridiculously high altitudes in a straight line. I think capping pony capabilities at Mane 6 level as you are implying would effectively turn them into what you are trying to avoid, and is asinine. IF she had ripped the fur off RD during the ponyville race and THEN proceeded to do Mach 3+ at 80000+ hooves, I think what you are saying would have some traction with me, but as it is, I think its fine. Dash continues to be top dog (pony) at low-medium altitudes.
I loved the story.
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There are links directly to the tracks right at their cue points within the story. Open them in new tabs.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q89mOOh86Ds
In one minute and fifty eight seconds, this aircraft covered 137.6 miles. Your hate was so utterly outrun that the Heavy from TF2 had to come to this dimension to say: 'CRY SOME MORE!"
But on a serious matter, there are a whole lot of aviation fans in the comments above who have already disected comments such as yours and debunked the accusations made.
The whole story of Dainty Dish thus far is what made me register with this site. To me it's by far the best story arc I've read on this site with the mental imagery you summon up with your stories.
I read how some people are put off by what the character can do but REALLY ... you have flying horses, magic, dragons, a large horse who sent another slightly less large horse to the moon, one of those flying horses breaking the sound barrier, did I mention magic? I mention this because with all the cannon I find it very east to place Dainty Dish in the series with the explanations given. The music links are also another touch that takes it another step up.
Thanks for the good reading, keep it up.
52781 Sadly, I only found one. It is Here. I think her cutie mark is falling off. That's a bit of a bad sign.
Dainty Dish is a pretty cool mare. Seh reaches mach 3.3 and doesn't afraid of anything.
On a more serious note, I must say that the ending was awesome. The music was very fitting, and Dainty was just AWESOME!
I love Dainty Dish
she's well defined and an adorable character
Hey, could I use Dainty Dish in a story I'm writing?
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See chapter: 'Permissions';
I do believe I need to call the Celestial guard, for my heart has been stolen by a mare who flirts with the stars!
Well done!
BTW, I'm watching you.
1252579 Hey Jack, it's been forever.
Imagine the rest of the family!
Big sisters Cygnus (A-12/M-21) and Archangel (YF-12)
And little brother Tagboard! (D-21)