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Fairly Odd Parents Reboot Will Not Have Timmy Turner?! · 7:28pm Jul 16th, 2021

Hello my fellow bronies,

As you all probably know, The League of Evil, aka Nickelodeon, is going to reboot the Fairly Oddparents into a live action show.In a previous blog post, I discussed how I don't think this would actually....you know...work.

But when just when you think Nick couldn't sink any lower, we finally get details about the new show, and its even more insane than I could ever imagine. According to Newsweek, of all publications, Timmy Turner will not be the main protagonist: instead, he will be replaced by a teenaged female cousin named Viv Turner.Viv....Turner. Yes that is her real name. Viv. That name alone fills me with psychotic rage, but I'll get to that later.

Viv will end up inheriting Cosmo and Wanda from Timmy Turner himself. And she'll be joined in her wacky misadventures by her stepbrother, Roy Ragland.

Roy...

Roy...

Roy...

This gives me memories of something....

It's on the tip of my tongue.

Oh crap, I forgot. Oh well, moving on.

It's clear that the Fairly Oddparents jumped the shark long ago. But the reboot isn't just jumping the shark, its been devoured by the shark, and the fecal remains that are squeezed out of the shark's anus are being used to make the show. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that. The premise of this reboot has the hallmarks of an already dying series.

Cousin Oliver Syndrome

When a show begins to fall apart, the common trope is the introduction of a suddenly nonexistent child character to the show itself, known as Cousin Oliver Syndrome. Even the actor who played Cousin Oliver has thrown shade at this past role.

As I've stated, I gave up on FOP, and cartoons as a whole, around 2008. And when I re-watched the Fairly Oddparents, one of the things that told me the show had run its course was the creation of Crocker's mysterious nephew, Kevin Crocker.

When a show lasts long enough that it has its own internal consistency, logic, and continuity, sacrificing it for a storyline is a sign of a decline in creativity. All of a sudden, Crocker has an estranged sister, one who never showed up in the Secret Origins of Denzel Crocker, and it throws out a lot of what we thought we knew about him and how he came to be. And...I don't think Crocker having a nephew is a bad idea, per se. But making Crocker into a kid too young to remember Blockbuster is just plain ridiculous. You're not adding anything to Crocker's story, or creating an interesting dynamic. One crazy Crocker is enough for the show.

Having a new relative and gluing him to the show isn't a good sign.

But when you've decided your going to center the reboot around the invented relative who bears an uncanny resemblance to the character most of us care about, it is a sign that your house is not at all in order. Simply the name "Viv" tells me this won't be a character we will care about. "Viv" sounds like the nickname of someone trying to be edgy, not a little kid who has adventures with his fairies, learning about how to grow as a person.

The Destruction of the Old Dynamic

Most reboots try at least to revive the old dynamic of the property in question.

Fairly Oddparents was a show that worked for a good while on the premise of their being three main characters: the bratty but goodhearted kid, the loving but strict wife, and the bumbling but loving dad.

But the new dynamic now features a teenaged girl, a young stepbrother, and the fairies.

None of it this feels like something natural or intriguing, or even an attempt to revive what we actually loved.

And all this in live-action makes it look so much worse.

Conclusion

The worst part, to me at least, is that the premise of the show doesn't have to be terrible at all. Timmy Turner growing up and passing his fairies off to a younger generation doesn't have to be lame premise.

There is one show where this premise, of the former main character passing wisdom and guidance to the new main character, works: Batman Beyond. Batman Beyond sounds like a gimmicky spin-off, but it is in fact one of the most excellent pieces of Batman animation ever made.

It works as a continuation to Batman the Animated Series for several reasons:

* Terry McGinnis, the successor of Bruce Wayne, isn't just a clone of Bruce Wayne, but a kid with his own flaws, desires, needs, and feelings. In fact, one episode from the Justice League explores Terry's dreading about his own individuality and sense of self when he learns Bruce is his biological father. He also has his own relationships, with a brother, a mother, and some friends from school that are different from Bruce's.

* Bruce Wayne has a unique, and really sad, story line, one in which he's become an aged shell of his former self; bitter, cynical, alone, and alienated from his few remaining loved ones. And he has become hardened on vigilantism, to the point that he physically punishes Terry for wearing the Batsuit at first.

* And then are the unique plots, settings, and antagonists that make it very different from the previous show.

If we could see a story of Timmy Turner growing up and offering guidance to poor Viv, who might also be an average kid who no one understands with her own challenges and family issues, I could get behind this. Especially if it was animated.

But based off how a lot of reboots have gone, and Butch Hartman's growing incompetence and signs of narcissism, I just...don't have much hope for this.

Sincerely, Redandready45.

PS: I'm going to be very busy these next few weeks, editing and looking over my previous works, and possibly republishing...

Oh my God! I'm doing the reboot too! I've become what I hated!

Comments ( 33 )

First: Oy vey. Second: Your doing the right thing.

Chloe was the worst thing about the original show, let’s be honest.

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And in this reboot, they're making the Chloe character the central protagonist, while slapping the "long lost relative" label on her.

You were the chosen one! You were supposed to destroy the sith, not become one!

On a more serious note, I don't get the appeal of doing all these superhero/ magic shows in live action. It just seems like wasted effort on something that could be more easily done in animation. It's making me anxious about the PJO show.

... though that might just be lingering influence from the movies.

So basically just like the Powerpuff girls

one of the things that told me the show had run its course was the creation of Crocker's mysterious nephew, Kevin Crocker.

No... No, I vehemently refuse to believe that's a thing. That's not real. It can't be!

If we could see a story of Timmy Turner growing up and offering guidance to poor Viv, who might also be an average kid who no one understands with her own challenges and family issues, I could get behind this. Especially if it was animated.

That would be nice, but there's an issue. Faries are only supposed to appear to children who have terrible lives. Like, ones worse than Chester's life, considering he never got Fairy Godparents. Sure, give the rich kid a Fairy Godparent, give the kid living in a suburban neighborhood two fairies. But the kid living in a trailer park? Nope. Granted, you could argue that Chester was happier than Timmy was, and even had a more loving family than Timmy could ever wish for (Ba-dump-chh) but for Vivi to have Fairy Godparents, it will have to mean that Timmy failed as a father in some way. Maybe overworking and exhaustion stop him from spending quality time with her, or maybe he's become a complete shadow of the kindhearted person who was once there.

Either way, for her to have Faries, Timmy will have to be seen as a bad father. Also, I really hope that she'd need to keep her Faries a secret from her brother, considering that the only people allowed to know you have Faries are people who currently have Faries. But maybe that's just.... Wishful thinking.

Ba-dump-chhh....

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Well...

The idea of Timmy being a failed father would be an interesting, but very sad, development.

I think at the end of Channel Chaser's, he is oblivious to the fact that his babysitter is also mistreating his children, to the point that Cosmo and Wanda are assigned to them.

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I would argue the magical dog was worse. Fuck, what was his name? Spot, right? They didn't even give him an excuse for suddenly disappearing, they just shoved him out of the show and knew nobody would ask questions.

Also, moving to Flash to animate the show was a horrible mistake. Everything was so... Smooth. Granted, smooth and snappy animation works well for some shows, but FOP's less fluid motion looked and felt nicer than what we got in later seasons.

Who's ready for the Equestria Girls live action reboot, starring drug addict Pinkie Pie, rape victim Fluttershy, racist Applejack, Asian Twilight Sparkle, A Sunset Shimmer who either isn't in the show at all or is a generic bully character, and more? They will make fun of unicorns in the very first episode, and it will not mention Equestria at all.

It happened to Archie and Winx Club, nothing is safe.

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lets try to be positive maybe its gonna be better than the original series after all we had the same opinion abaut the ben 10 rebott and it was pretty good at the end maybe not as good as the oters but still a prety good series maybe we wil have something like that or or at least no be like teen titans go

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I would argue the magical dog was worse. Fuck, what was his name? Spot, right? They didn't even give him an excuse for suddenly disappearing, they just shoved him out of the show and knew nobody would ask questions.

Yeah, its hilarious to see the Fairly Oddparents pulling a Poochie.

I wrote the character of Joanna the Jaguar, because I felt that would've been a more interesting animal companion than a moronic canine.

Who's ready for the Equestria Girls live action reboot, starring drug addict Pinkie Pie, rape victim Fluttershy, Asian Twilight Sparkle, A Sunset Shimmer who either isn't in the show at all or is a generic bully character, and more? They will make fun of unicorns in the very first episode, and it will not mention Equestria at all.

It happened to Archie and Winx Club, nothing is safe.

Rainbow Dash is named Rainbow Dock, the same way M. Night Shyamalan made Aang "Ng."


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Not gonna have high expectations.

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lets try to be positive maybe its gonna be better than the original series

I have not heard anything about this, but this has clearly left me shell-shocked. Timmy Turner is the bread and butter of this show. WE CAN'T NOT HAVE FOP w/o TIMMY TIBERIUS TURNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THEY CANT DO THIS TO US!!!!!!!!!

SCRAMBLE THE FAIRIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Not gonna lie I should have expected that :twilightsheepish:

Still funny meme

1.- Really sad to see this development. Well, I still have the original show.

2.-

[As I've stated, I gave up on FOP, and cartoons as a whole, around 2008/quote]

Oh, come on dude, there are plenty of good cartoons, from Regular Show, to Amphibia, Gravity Falls, The Amazing World of Gumball, and there are some that, despite their flaws, I would defend like Steven Universe, Star Vs The Forces of Evil (haven't seen the last seasons though), etc. That's not even counting those which I haven't seen but looks fun like The Owl House, Victor y Valentino, Villanous; or even online cartoons like Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss (I enjoy the show despite the creator) and who knows what else there is on the web.

As long as Cartoon Network is around (and it looks like it's paying attention to Latin America, with Villanous and Victor y Valentino) I think cartoons are a safe bet

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2008 was when I became a teenager, and so brain didn't want me watching "immature" things.

That's why I lost interest in cartoons.

I lasted longer. I made it to season 7. I think "Crocker Shocker" was the episode that broke me...

Yeah, the writing was bad. Why give Timmy a magic dog? If you were going to give him a magic pet, why not a little dragon or something? And why does Timmy need to share Cosmo and Wanda? Why not give Chloe her own fairy and not make her an every episode? Heck, why make Chloe? Dwight and Molly already existed, and their one episode was pretty promising.

Honestly, I was kind of excited until I heard Hartman was involved. I really think Steve Marmel was responsible for what was good in FOP and Danny Phantom. I'm on a rewatch of the series, and I'm close to season 6, which I consider the last good season. Really not looking forward to the rest.

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You're assuming their names will be anything close to their source material In this hypothetical show. They would totally give all of the characters normal human names, in order to further distance themselves from weird girly stuff. This is a SERIOUS show, for ADULTS. But it's totally still Equestria Girls, give us your money bronies.

wow Nickelodeon sure fracked up on this one. i am so glade i cut my TV cords 15 years ago.
i pick what i want to watch and stream it.
and something to remember and it is the reason we ever had MLP G1 Hasbro and Nickelodeon love money.

I’m thinking if it was animated, and it was someone who wasn’t necessarily a Turner who got Cosmo and Wanda but nevertheless somehow comes into contact with Timmy as a well adjusted adult but can’t remember the stuff about Fairies and everything as real but sometimes tells stories of the kind of imagination he had as a kid (Maybe he’d take the roll of a boringness babysitter instead of an evil one, or a family friend/neighbor or something) and Cosmo and Wanda tell the new kid about how all the stories are true. That could bring up some interesting storylines to use, like a potential one episode wish of “I wish Timmy could remember having Fairies” or something which has stuff happen with the rules and all that, then that could be interesting but I doubt that would ever happen in the actual show because of the information given.

They might even mess up their internal Logic and have Timmy remember Cosmo and Wanda completely. Which would be really dumb.

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Well, the best I can say is that you've been missing out some good content, mainly because cartoons aren't just for kids, they can even touch ideas that adult content never tries either

5556070 The whole Chloe thing was a disaster, that girl was insane more so than Tootie

According tp Jorgan Timmy had to share because there weren't enough fairy godparents - guess when they stopped fairies from having babies they didn't think at the time the human population would be in the billions many millenium after Cosmos was born

At least I have my memories of when the show was good... They can't steal that if I don't give them money or play the show in its current form

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I know the in-universe reason Timmy had to share. I don't understand why that had to be the case from a storytelling perspective. Giving Chloe her own fairies would have opened up story possibilities without breaking the dynamic.

I want to give the reboot a chance. After all, we're on a site celebrating a reboot that was different from what came before it. But I don't have a lot of faith in Butch Hartman, or a live-action version of a show made for animation.

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DESTROY THE BRIDGE!


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Yeah, the writing was bad. Why give Timmy a magic dog? If you were going to give him a magic pet, why not a little dragon or something? And why does Timmy need to share Cosmo and Wanda? Why not give Chloe her own fairy and not make her an every episode? Heck, why make Chloe? Dwight and Molly already existed, and their one episode was pretty promising.

I specifically created Joanna the Jaguar, Timmy's animal companion in Fairly Odd Friendship, for that very reason: if Timmy can have a pet, why not give him an animal that is cool, unique, and reliably competent.

I wrote a bonus chapter where Trixie Tang can be the kid with whom Timmy shares his fairies.

Both were ideas that could've been done better.

Honestly, I was kind of excited until I heard Hartman was involved. I really think Steve Marmel was responsible for what was good in FOP and Danny Phantom. I'm on a rewatch of the series, and I'm close to season 6, which I consider the last good season. Really not looking forward to the rest.

I think Butch Hartman ought to be labeled the "Steven Seagal" of animation.

FOP stopped being interesting around Season 5, but that's just my opinion...man.


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You're assuming their names will be anything close to their source material In this hypothetical show. They would totally give all of the characters normal human names, in order to further distance themselves from weird girly stuff. This is a SERIOUS show, for ADULTS. But it's totally still Equestria Girls, give us your money bronies.

In fact, we'll have Twilight Sparkle's long lost cousin, Tiana Sparkle, who will certainly be a unique character that won't in any way be a complete copy of Twilight Sparkle or her personal struggles.

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I'm thinking if it was animated, and it was someone who wasn’t necessarily a Turner who got Cosmo and Wanda but nevertheless somehow comes into contact with Timmy as a well adjusted adult but can’t remember the stuff about Fairies and everything as real but sometimes tells stories of the kind of imagination he had as a kid (Maybe he’d take the roll of a boringness babysitter instead of an evil one, or a family friend/neighbor or something) and Cosmo and Wanda tell the new kid about how all the stories are true. That could bring up some interesting storylines to use, like a potential one episode wish of “I wish Timmy could remember having Fairies” or something which has stuff happen with the rules and all that, then that could be interesting but I doubt that would ever happen in the actual show because of the information given.

They might even mess up their internal Logic and have Timmy remember Cosmo and Wanda completely. Which would be really dumb.

Yes, that would be dumb.

Which is why they'll do it anyway. The FOP writers have plain stopped caring about consistency and continuity.


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I want to give the reboot a chance. After all, we're on a site celebrating a reboot that was different from what came before it. But I don't have a lot of faith in Butch Hartman, or a live-action version of a show made for animation.

Nothing is inevitable.

But again, past experience tells me that this will bomb very badly, so I'm not crossing my fingers.

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TIP SOMETHING OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then what?
KILL THE LIFEGUARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Don't waste this senseless violence on him!

It's (Nickelodeon and Butch Hartman) that's causing all the problems.

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KILL NICKELODION AND HARTMAN!

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OK, let's step back a bit before this gets out of hand.

Let's try and petition Nickelodeon to make the reboot we actually deserve.

The one that features Timmy's children from Channel Chasers, with their own unique stories and challenges.

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I dunno how to make a petition.
also real doubtful anyone will listen.

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Well, I have my own saying: you don't like the stories people make: then make your own.

Let's write the stories we want.

One day, I hope the disastrous Disney copyright regime gets repealed, because fans could make their own fan cartoons without fear of a cease and desist letter.

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Who's ready for the Equestria Girls live action reboot, starring drug addict Pinkie Pie, rape victim Fluttershy, racist Applejack, Asian Twilight Sparkle, A Sunset Shimmer who either isn't in the show at all or is a generic bully character, and more? They will make fun of unicorns in the very first episode, and it will not mention Equestria at all.

It happened to Archie and Winx Club, nothing is safe.

Considering they made Asian Daphne and Black Norville in Velma, your sarcasm turned out to be more prescient than you imagined.

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