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Black Lives Matter · 10:24pm Jun 4th, 2020
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Don't like it? Fuck off. I don't care.
Have a good one.
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Yes they do.
Short and to the point, I like it
Just need it simple.
They do
All lives matter.
Can't really disagree with you or feel upset with the statement.
Indeed they do.
5276447
I said Black Lives Matter.
I did not stutter.
I'm not talking about all other lives at the moment, nor did I say they didn't matter.
But I'm talking about the black ones here, specifically.
So don't do that. It's not a good look.
Short, succinct, to the point. An A+, Pencil. And something I agree with.
I don't understand people who don't support the protests and the message.
5276447
OK, you may think you're being equitable, but here is the problem with what you're saying:
Saying "All Lives Matter" insinuates that white people are in the same danger of being arrested, assaulted, or killed by police as black people.
And...
That. Is. Not. The. Case.
It should be the case.
But it is not the case.
Because right now, the way the system is set up, it is set up as if they DON'T matter.
And THAT is horseshit.
Which is why saying "Black Lives Matter" is the correct statement.
Preach it, sister!
Terry Pratchet said it best. Civilization is 24 hours and 2 meals away from anarchy. When things break down they keep breaking down until their is nothing left.
5276447
Because all lives matter, black lives matter.
But black lives in America are not treated as though they matter.
Until black lives are treated as though they matter, all lives in America do not equally matter.
Reconsider your words.
5276447
i.imgur.com/G8udzIC.jpg
But Pencil, they're not ponies.
I suspect this is because of the fact that we've been under lockdown with a highly contagious virus for the past few months, but there seems to be an extra dose of despair with these protests. People being pushed to their breaking point, even if they're not out on the street protesting. It's all fucking terrible, and I've felt despair tug at my own heart for the past few days, because not only are things going badly, and that BLM is under even more attack now than five years ago, but there's that fear that things will somehow get even worse in the near-future.
And yet we can't let ourselves fall to despair. We need to have hope. We need to support our brethren, and if we don't do that now then we never will.
5276542
Twice as many white people are killed by police as blacks, this is not a race thing, its a cop thing. Tony Timpa was killed in the exact same way as George Floyd. So im curious as to why you think that white people are safer.
5276491
I honestly agreed with you but now I just think you are just being an ass and taking it too far...
I just made a comment and you took it way too personally. I disagre with the narrowing down of race when it is everyone having to deal with this crap and not just the black lives...
5277064
I did not swear at you. I was being clear about my meaning and where I stand. This is not me taking it personally. This is me being 100% crystal clear. All lives matter is not what I said, and I also did not say all lives didn't matter. I said black lives matter. Inserting all lives matter as a rebuttal to that is something I am asking you not to do.
5277096
No, you didn't swear.
You went into an over the top aggressive rant over me making a less aggressive statement.
5277104
A rant?
It was five sentences.
Are you confusing me for someone else?
5277109
Considering the lack of depth of your begining statement, the complete aggression you seem to be showing, and the chastising you seem to be giving anyone who you interpret as counterpointing you... This whole thing seems to be nothing but a pointless and senseless rant by you.
5277132
You are the only one I replied to. Again, all I did was clarify and make a request. Any tone you are inferring isn't there. Believe me, I'm quite calm.
5276447 All lives do matter. It's sad that your comment has so many downvotes. Apparently, black lives matter, but not any others. Saying 'all lives matter' is deemed 'racist' by people far too ignorant to understand that being equal does not mean being more equal than everybody else. This whole concept of singling out one group of people is laughably counterproductive to creating unity, the supposed goal.
5277237
Again, I am not saying and have not said that all other lives do not matter. Nor will I ever say that.
What I did say and am saying is that Black Lives Matter. And that is currently what I am focusing on.
5277240 You're reiterating that you're singling out a group to focus on after I just explained that you cannot have equality if a single group is treated specially. That's basically what got us into this in the first place, and here you are doing the same thing. Why?
5277256
Because this is a statement of fact: Black lives matter.
That's all it is. A statement of fact. No correction needed, no expansion, no explanation.
If my saying three simple words bothers you, you are welcome not to engage with me. I'm not here to debate or explain. I will clarify, over and over, that I've said what I've said, nothing else attached. I haven't gone into my political ideology. I have not said a word as to other things not mattering to me. I haven't said anything on top of it.
I said what I said. And if what I said bothers you, I believe my original directions were clear.
Have a good one.
5277259 So if I said 'white lives matter' would it bother you? If I made a blog post to stand on a metaphorical soap box and declare that 'white lives matter,' and if you don't like it, you can 'fuck off,' and I became standoffish when comments came in that said 'all lives matter,' would that bother you? If I made such a statement, would you feel compelled to get me to 'debate or explain?' Would you make assumptions about my 'political ideology?' Would you believe that other things did not matter to me? Would you take my statement as a statement of fact? Or would you call it racist? Which is it?
5277265
I wouldn't engage with you in the first place. You gave pretty clear instructions you didn't want to chat about it, in this hypothetical scenario of course.
5277267 It was merely a hypothetical mirror scenario of your own actions here:
You did make your instructions clear from the get-go. I replied to Mist_Chaser's comment. You made the choice to engage with me. Very interesting, as you're so adamant about not caring whether or not I liked your opinion. As a matter of fact, you pretty much chose to engage with any of your willing followers when you made this blog post.
5277281
I'll admit, I did engage first. To clarify what I did not say, and what I did say. I've done that now. Also, it's definitely my mistake that, when I refreshed the page, I originally thought you replied to me. And that's my bad. (It originally showed up as post number, rather than the user's name. Apologies.)
EDIT: So, feel free to carry on, call me out, whatever it is you feel like you're doing. Make statements, say your piece, whatever, go off. I said what I said, and for me that's where it ends. It's late. And I'm tired. As I said before, and as I should have left it at that time, have a good one.
I don't disagree. I just wish blacks would agree with it themselves.
Instead I get to watch videos of a black woman crying and freaking out about a black man pulling a gun on her after she spent hours trying to clean up the black-owned store she worked at, as it was looted again in broad daylight. Instead I get to hear about a retired black cop that was shot by people looting a pawn-shop. Instead I get to read about the black fire-fighter who's dream-business, a bar, that was supposed to open before it was delayed due to Corona lockdown, was burned to the ground by rioters. Instead I get to watch as these rioters are set up by race-baiters, who leave molotovs and bricks on the parade routes protesters are taking, and watch as a black woman hands a brick back to white race-baiting thugs in a car, demanding what the hell they think they're doing handing out bricks and setting up her brothers for crimes.
Black lives do matter. I just wish they mattered to everyone equally.
5276901
Because something like ten times as many white people aren't killed by police. Remember that black people are a minority, and you'll realize that while numbers don't lie, that just makes lying with numbers all the easier.
5277533 Its ironic that you said this
because your correct they don't, but putting population as your base is very deceiving. What you have to do is take into account the police interactions, not every person has interactions with the police so we can easily discredit your argument. I have posted below the interactions by police
and they definitely line up with what I said last post. More white people commit crimes, and are arrested except for murder, which blacks had more by a few points, but thats black on black crime, Black people disproportionate kill their own. My numbers and Stats come from https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/tables/table-21 where is yours?
In 2016, 69.6 percent of all individuals arrested were White, 26.9 percent were Black or African American, and 3.6 percent were of other races.
Of arrestees for whom ethnicity was reported, 18.4 percent were Hispanic.
Of all juveniles (persons under the age of 18) arrested in 2016, 62.1 percent were White, 34.7 percent were Black or African American, and 3.2 percent were of other races.
Of juvenile arrestees for whom ethnicity was reported, 22.8 percent were Hispanic.
Of all adults arrested in 2016, 70.2 percent were White, 26.2 percent were Black or African American, and 3.6 percent were of other races.
Of adult arrestees for whom ethnicity was reported, 18.0 were Hispanic.
White individuals were arrested more often for violent crimes than individuals of any other race and accounted for 59.0 percent of those arrests.
Of adults arrested for murder, 52.0 percent were Black or African American, 45.4 percent were White, and 2.6 percent were of other races.
Black or African American juveniles comprised 52.0 percent of all juveniles arrested for violent crimes. White juveniles accounted for 58.4 percent of all juveniles arrested for property crimes.
Of juveniles arrested for drug abuse violations, 74.8 percent were White.
White juveniles comprised 64.7 percent of juveniles arrested for rape and 60.2 percent of juveniles arrested for larceny-theft.
5276542
https://www.pnas.org/content/116/32/15877#ref-21
Please give it a read, I think this might relate to what you are talking about
5277570
I do enjoy your weird, crazy (and oftentimes disturbing) stories Pencil ^^ even though I might not agree with you, that doesn't stop me from enjoying your stories or liking the barcast!
I just wish we could come together as a community and not push people away.