So long, Hub · 12:45am Sep 18th, 2014
FiM's patron network is going away, as Hasbro and Discovery end their partnership and the latter will be rebranding the network "Discovery Family." It's only been four years, and the network has already died out, having failed to get a big enough audience to compete with the Big Three of American children's television (Disney, Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network.) So, what does this mean?
Hasbro will still have enough control for their shows to air 9 AM - 3 PM. Meanwhile, Discovery will be refocusing the network on "family" programming. Considering that this network used to be Discovery Kids, which ran mostly educational programming that sucked and deserved to be burned out of all human memory, that's not a good thing. FiM started as an E/I show, and managed to be a rare example of such a series done well, but the constraints are so high (remember, "egghead" is an unforgivable slur), and the general opinion of such material so low from even many of the creators, that it's doubtful much good will come of it.
Still, Hasbro is negotiating with other networks to host their programming, likely to get out of things entirely. Of the three:
Cartoon Network: This is the most likely candidate. Transformers was a mainstay of the network for a good while, and other Hub shows would have a good home there. (Dan Vs. was practically an Adult Swim show that ended up on the wrong network...which is good, because it would have been cancelled right away for using actual jokes and not poop, blood and pedophilia as the basis of its comedy.) My concerns, however, are with the network's management. The network has been known to screw shows over with alarming regularity, cancelling popular properties for arbitrary reasons or for no reason at all. According to Paul Dini, part of the reason Young Justice got cancelled, despite having very solid ratings, was because a large portion of the audience was female, and the network execs believed that only boys should watch action shows. Now imagine how they would react to a cartoon about magical ponies getting a large male adult audience.
Just saying, the show would have probably been cancelled half a season in if CN had run it from the beginning.
Disney: This one might seem obvious. Disney is a long-established channel from probably the most powerful force in children's entertainment, and FiM even airs on Disney in a lot of countries outside of the US. There were rumors floating around a few years ago that Disney (fresh off of buying Lucasarts) would go after Hasbro next, but that ultimately didn't happen, and was never going to happen at that time due to a lot of other legal agreements, licensing deals, and other factors. Nevertheless, Disney would seem to be a nice home for the show, but I do wonder if the parent company would flex its muscle regarding the toyline as a part of the deal. Or for that matter, if it will run into trouble with Disney's primary partner, Mattel.
Nickelodeon: I haven't seen Nick in a long time, and it's definitely not quite the powerhouse it once was, but it's still a channel with a large audience. So...yeah, might work, might not.
Or conversely, FiM airs its fifth season on Discovery Family (it's likely too late to shove it onto another network)...and that's it. Hasbro either lets MLP rest or, considering how long G4 has been running at this point, goes into G5 and launches a new series. Worst case scenario would be that the show gets cancelled and the fifth season is never aired, but considering the show's success (it was pretty much the Hub's only true hit) and established fanbase, it's doubtful that there would be nobody interested in at least picking up the last season and reruns.
Anyway, why did the Hub fail? As stated above, the Big Three pretty much dominate the market already, but the fact that the Hub was only on expanded cable/satellite packages, while the others were all basic channels, didn't help matters. New content was also an issue; the channel seemed to be sliding more and more into 90s sitcoms as it progressed, and the better shows pretty much all ended outside of FiM. In the end, the channel simply couldn't keep itself afloat, and thus Hasbro is backing out rather than throwing more money at a network that, in hindsight, had no real chance of making it big.
We'll have to see what this means for FiM. I'm still optimistic that the show will get its fifth season, and if it does get rebooted after that, then it had a good run. But anything could happen.
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Oh, and Equestria Girls will likely not be shutting down just because the channel is, seeing as it basically has little to do with the Hub to begin with. Sorry if that gave anyone false hope.
No. Why?
One of the only decent channels are getting shafted. That actually sucks. So much.
In all honesty I would rather see it on Disney, they seem to have a bit more respect for cartoons these days. Of course if that happens I wonder if Hasbro could get the right back for Transformers: Robots in Disguise... they have to find a place to put the shows since I know they got a sequel series to Transformer Prime green lit and set to premier next year.
Considering how the rest of the Discovery networks have gone away from educational shows I would be far more worried that they would do something really stupid with it
Well. Hopefully whoever picks it up does right by the show. I would hate it if such a successful program got screwed just as it entered the unknown waters of a children's cartoon's fifth season. Though if I had to pick a network, I'd go with Disney, if only because Gravity Falls is proof that they haven't completely lost their ability to see good cartoons yet.
Wow, thanks for making this blog post or I never woulda known this was happening. Boy that would have been a nasty surprise to find the Hub gone from channel listings the next time I went to find FiM.
Sadly, yeah. I could see this coming, too. Besides FIM and Transformers: Prime, there wasn't much going on for it, was there.
I feel sad...
I sincerely hope that CN doesn't get the rights, they surely would screw the series up.
Well, I am outside the US, so I never watched the Hub.
In my country FiM airs on Discovery Kids, yes we still have it. Though is way behind the Hub (it haven't even finished the 4th season) and it have an awful dubbing.
I would prefer seeing FiM on Disney than Cartoon Network. The cartoons today on CN, though sometimes funny, are really stupid. it have just absurd comedy with stupid characters. Disney still has some decency on it.
I'm not sure about Nickelodeon, but I think there are some countries where FiM is aired on it.
You forgot Digital Distribution. Netflix is signing original content left and right, getting their hands on FiM and Transformers? That could be huge!
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its going to be cartoon network. I can already tell. This is because, I mean, honestly, look at their lineup within the past couple of years. Right now they have all of roughly 3 shows that bring in the viewers, Adventure Time, their main squeeze, the Amazing world of Gumball, and that one show nobody watches but they still praise like it's Jesus or some shit, Regular Show which is far more suited for Adult Swim honestly.
Cartoon Network needs shows BADLY. Their top execs McFucked up badly, and as you said, started chopping off shows because they're a bunch of racist, sexist, retarded sellouts, so they really have a lot in common with Hasbro.
Yes. I fucking hate Hasbro. and I'm mad.
MLP's very own Lauren Faust also has a huge history with CN, with powerhouse shows like Fauster's Home and Powerpuff Girls, so given the opportunity to have another one of her powerhouse works, possibly her Magnum Opus, they'd be all over that like Asians on rice.
Disney is the buyer who I would love to see be the owners of MLP especially since they are the biggest "family" television production company. if not the most known, with huge ventures into cinema and television. Though I am kind of wary, I can see them flexing their moral muscles and forcing the writers to put the story back down the path Lauren Faust had intended, and start cutting needless bullshit from the story. But I worry as they're also too family friendly at times, and have shown to not be against creating "pretty pink princess with her prince charming that must save her like Mario does for Peach" shows. But it's difficult to tell if they would be interested in purchasing Hasbro thanks to the Lucas Arts purchase, that was a hefty stab to their reserves, but it made their stocks damn near double within the hour of the purchase, and now they have access to one of the most influential Video Game and Cinema brands, and with Star Wars 7 coming out, along with rumors of another animated film being in production, it's unlikely they would go after Hasbro.
CN may not be any better in regards to the whole pretty princess thing, in that they'd probably jack up the pandering to 11, and the Twicorn worship/circle jerking into a full blown bloody orgy.
Nich? No, they wouldn't be interested. They've had their line up set up for some time now, and because they've been playing on Spongbob reruns, and tripe like that, they've lost a lot of the weight they carried in their hay day.
In any case, this will possibly be the best or worst thing to happen to not just the show, but the entire series as Season 4's ratings were lower than projected, and while Season 5's writing was just finished about a couple days ago, if Season 5 doesn't do well, this may be the end for the series in it's entirely, regardless of the fact that Season six was confirmed as well. Or it may be great as Hasbro's plans for their toyline fucking with the show go out the fucking window, and we lose Twicorn and her Lazor cannons, and any possibility of the show going down the shitter because of a forced romance.
Equestria girls isnt going to stop... Its premiering in a theatre near me on the 27th... Im going to see its debut... Watch my surprise when its only my party of 4 grown males and a bunch of little girls and thier parents.... If the parents even go
2463305 rescue bots, prime, littlest pet shop, and ponies are the four big series.... Ponies and prime for adults more, and rescute bots and pet shop for kids.... But even with my 4 year old brothee who watches pet shop... And HAS TO HAVE PET SHOP EVERYDAY ON NETFLIX it entertains me as well... Hasbro has a way of entertaining all audiences, instead of all others catering to one audience.
Well, The Hub is gone, yes, there's always hope that Disney or another sister channel to the Hub (Like PBSKids maybe), will pick up some of the shows.
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You may be speaking from a non-American perspective, in which I'm not sure, but Gravity Falls isn't on Cartoon Network. It's a Disney show.
Are you fucking shitting me? YOUNG JUSTICE got canceled because TOO MANY GIRLS were watching it? Fuck, they're worst than Disney when they canceled Tron because so many they 'feared it would attract a fanbase similar to what Hasbro's My Little Pony' did with so many adult males wanting, surprise, to watch a show on TRON. Which, old or not, was looking to be an awesome show of its own.
Shit, my generation and more so those after me are RAISED on ANIME and such. All these 14 year olds will grow into 30 some year olds who'll probably be more interested in cartoons than live-actions.
Damn. The Hub was the only good place to watch some great cartoons. Imagine if they had backed shows from Fredinator? Puppycat, that show with Catbug in it. It would of grown big time. Doubt it, but damn. I hope Hasbro just goes full digital and release new episodes online through. Or something. I can't recall the years its been since I've ever felt the need to own cable, and even when I got it for the hub my shitty Cable Company never let me watch it on the HD channel because Comcast services just generally suck beyond belief around here.
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shit, cut me some slack, I dont watch that shit and made a mistake
With FiM being a successful TV show attached to a successful toy line (both of which are quite popular amongst their target demographic as well as us Bronies), and with a fifth season already deep in development, I highly doubt it would be canned; it would be a strange marketing choice indeed from Hasbro and whoever it is that's running the network. If Hasbro really does get to keep a 9 - 3 time slot, it'll almost certainly air during its normal 10:30 on Saturday.
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Well, more particularly that too many girls and not enough boys. But also its overall viewership was low, too. So it was missing both its demographic and its minimum number of viewers. I honestly wasn't even aware of its airing until after it was already cancelled.
It wasn't like an inverse-MLP or anything, if that's what you're worried about.
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Hey, Gravity Falls is great.
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Could happen. That's already happened to Legend of Korra, I believe.
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It's like I keep telling people: ya gotta put butts in seats. Doesn't matter how much quality you pack into your shows if no one is watching them.
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Whoa, whoa, I'm not mad at you! Just clarifying. Sorry if I offended. *shrug*
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nt mad, just really touchy
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Eh, its not bad. The jewish uncle dude, Stan or what ever his name is, is fucking great, otherwise, meh.
2463347 Yeah, I see this as being one of the more likely outcomes of the Hub dying: FIM and Transformers: Prime go the route of Orange is the New Black and become Netflix Exclusives.
I cannot say I'm optimistic about any of those networks.
I do not trust Nickelodeon because they will flanderize (or worse) these characters into something deplorable.
Disney has this weird habit of making episodes have abnormally long delays between episodes. Although to be fair this would be the best bet.
Cartoon Network is a boys' channel and wants to be a boys channel. 'nuff said
I agree with the others, I would love to see MLP go to Disney than CN.
In many ways, Disney nowadays reminds me of Cartoon Network before a lot of the talent behind the Golden Age of CN left. And funnily, a lot of the talent DID leave to Disney thanks to Cartoon Network going through an identity crisis between 2005-2010 what with their intent on creating live action shows (the person behind this push having resigned/been removed months ago) and focusing less on cartoons. Plus, Disney has given their trust to veteran and even new creators to create their own creator-driven shows hence why we've gotten really great shows like Gravity Falls, Wander Over Yonder, and so on.
But aside from Disney being on the rise with its television animation thanks to putting their faith in actual people and not products/toys to keep the shows aloat, I think the Disney Channel would make a lot of sense for FiM.
FiM is a show geared towards young girls. Guess which network is geared at them the most.
The Disney Channel.
Guess who has the most reach around the world?
The Disney Channel (plus, The Disney Channel already airs MLP in Spain)
Now granted, there are some legit concerns. We dont know if Disney will meddle with the show to the point it annoys Hasbro, who are extremely protective of their brand. Their partners like Mattel may have issues with this too.
And the big elephant in the room may be how Disney might reboot MLP because that's what they basically did with the Marvel shows (yes, I was one of those who were heartbroken to see Ultimate Spider Man and not a continuation of Spectacular
). And yknow, I wouldn't be surprised. But I think Hasbro has been thinking of rebooting the show and generation anyways. Plus the show has been going on for 5 seasons,more than a hundred episodes by the time S5 ends so I could see Disney and/or Hasbro deciding to reboot everything, with Equestria Girls/Academy keeping the kids and some fans busy till G5.
Any other benefits of being on Disney? Well, probably talent and other things that probably will pop up in my mind later.
But imagine...
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I'm curious on that, because from what I've been able to gather, Season 4's ratings were generally an improvement. The Hub's ratings in general were very low (indeed, FiM is pretty much the only show that got an audience), and FiM's ratings are low compared to competing shows on the more accessible networks, but it still seemed to gain viewers.
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It certainly didn't help the viewership when CN basically stopped advertising the show almost immediately, knocked it into a death slot, delayed new episodes over and over, and kicked the DC Nation block around to show more Johnny Test crap. Meanwhile, they practically worship Teen Titans Go. I will say no more about that because I can't discuss TTG without devolving into a blind rage.
It's not that Young Justice was a great show. The first season was okay, and the second was a bit of a mess. The potential just felt kind of squandered...but it also didn't deserve to be cancelled for the reasons that seem to be coming out.
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The thing is, there really hasn't been a test run for a children's cartoon running as a Netflix exclusive, so it's hard to tell how successful that move would be. Nevertheless, the Internet is clearly changing the way television works, and the market is slowly but surely beginning to adjust as fighting against change becomes more futile.
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I'd hope not. My dad isn't a Netflix type of guy.
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Let me be clear, yeah season 4's ratings were an improvement over season 3, but they were nowhere near where Hasbro hoped them to be. And when you look at the numbers, season 3's ratings were dead in the water when compared to that of season 2's thanks to Hasbro fucking over Faust like a five dollar whore, then dumping her on the corner of the street without paying. They lost a lot of respect and viewers during that incident, and this was reinforced seven fold when they pulled the Twicorn incident. It wasn't just the "Brony subculture" that was confused/butthurt, they were losing interest with their "target primary demographic", AKA the kids who were begging their parents to buy their toys, and the parents who were sick of buying the same fucking toy that had only been repainted.
So really, when Season 4's rating came around, when it was said that they were an improvement from Season 3's, that just means that Hasbro decided to take the horse with the lame leg named MLP to the vet, rather than out back behind the shed with grandpa's revolver.
If I remember correctly, and with a grain of salt, what was reported number wise and statistically speaking, Season 4's rating weren't bad, but they weren't good enough either, they managed to erk out of the pit of death just enough for Hasbro to shove 100cc of fanpandering to the show's heart (See all the fucking advertising and the season finale straight out of a C rated anime).
The show will go on, but Season 5 is a very big iffy gray area, especially when their method of showing is currently in limbo. And with their toy sales being largely "meh", Hasbro is getting antsy. Yes, the show is possibly very quite literally, the only thing going for them right now, but with what happened in Season 3, Faust, the poor ratings of Season 4, the ever growing discontent for Hasbro and the Hub, along with them losing their showing contract, if and that's a big if, if they somehow manage to get a delivery method for season 5, and decide it's actually worth it to spend all the money on the bullshit for moving around production teams, updating legal contracts, the Father channel changing their line up around, along with the other crap, if Season 5 flops, then it's essentially over, because they'll better recuperate their loses by just moving onto the next generation, and cash in on the new hype from the brony Fandom.
This also ties into the Rainbow Rocks movie, which will be the jump start for their new god awful toy line for the Equestria Girls Bratz dolls things that are currently more than just dead in the water. The holiday season is going to be the biggest deciding factor. If their toy sales are good enough, then Hasbro might decide to squeeze out a few more sheckles out of the beaten into ground meat, dead horse. Otherwise they probably will just move onto greener pastures. The greener pasture being jumping the shark, doing something desperate, and using the money to start the next Generation of the show in a few years, after their major corporate figures get out of rehab for all the fucking Blow that they bought with the money they made when they cashed out.
I'm trying really hard to not be pesimistic, but I'm having a really hard time of not looking at this like I am.
Mlp going to CN?
No, no, and NO! Dude, CN is just a shit load of shitty shows. It was good at a point, some 10 years ago! There are far more adult jokes on CN then ever now (from what I've heard at least, so don't take that part to seriously). Just all around, NO! I don't watch Disney or Nick, but I'm sure they will treat MLP with far more respect than CN ever could.
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Season Four's ratings were actually higher than many Season Two episodes, including ACW, which had the highest ratings of any show on the Hub period prior to The Crystal Empire. And during Season Three, the show gained viewers overall; it just didn't gain as many as in the first two seasons. I don't think this is so much the show going down in quality, though, as the word-of-mouth that compelled the explosion of fans during the first hiatus had pretty much dried up. Most everyone who would have been interested in the show had heard of it by that point, and everyone that wasn't a fan was sick of hearing about it.
I'm sorry, but I don't see this clear drop stemming from Hasbro "dumping" Faust.
The ratings weren't good enough in that they didn't carry over to other shows and didn't do enough to keep the network going. The season's lowest rated episode was Inspiration Manifestation at 385,000 viewers, which is still higher than the highest-rated non-premiere/finale episode of Season Two, Hearts-and-Hooves Day, which had 236,000. And H&HD was a very hyped episode, as was ACW. Nearly every episode of Season Four rated higher than that finale, and many were higher than MMC.
Yes, the ratings fell over the course of Season Three, in that MMC had around 100,000 fewer viewers than TCE. But the majority of Season Four hovered around the 500,000 mark, which was where MMC (the most pushed episode of the series so far) premiered at, and those episodes were almost all regular, middle-of-the-season standards.
Just want to make clear that I'm not talking about quality. Right now, I have no interest in debating the show's merits or how this season compares to the previous ones, and especially the Faust-vs-McCarthy bloodbath.
I don't collect the toys, but the Equestria Girls toys have apparently greatly improved in the second casting, and are still selling well enough to compete with Mattel's domination of that branch of the toy industry.
I don't see how starting G5 would be desperate. It's a natural part of the business process; you phase out an older product, introduce a new version, and see if sales remain strong. They've done this for many of their toy lines. They even killed off their Transformers characters just to introduce new ones. (The backlash is why they aren't as keen on trying the same trick again.) G4 is eventually going to end, and it's up to whoever is put in charge of the next generation to learn from this one and make something that isn't G3.5.
0thly, Season # 05 of MLP:FIM is already far into production, so it will air. As for later seasons, nopony knows.
1stly, the way CartoonNetwork treated Young Justice is awful but common:
Executives often suffer from both PeterPrinciple and acquired Narcissistic PersonalityDisorder:
PeterPrinciple is when somepony who is good at something gets promoted into a position where the pony is terrible. I shall give an example:
A great CameraMare gets promoted to management. The mare is a terrible manager. Because demotion is stigmatized, the mare stays there. A simple solution is to allow return to CameraMare with no penalties. She keeps her pay and is a CameraMare.
Very few ponies are willing to tell somepony who can fire that the potentially firing ponies are wrong. That is why it is essential to have a designated Discord’s Advocate. After a decade of only hearing yes, executives believe that every fleeting thought they have is genius. This is acquired Narcissistic PersonalityDisorder.
When one combines PeterPrinciple with Acquired NacissiticPersonality Disorder you get cases like cancelling Young Justice, despite good rating because it pulled in an unexpected audience (certainly, the current sponsors who tried to sell things to colts were not happy, but they could have replaced those sponsors with sponsors selling things to fillies). The Classic Example is CBS cancelling Star Trek:
The only reason CBS had Star Trek was that it bought DesiLu which saw they value in this idea. The executives of CBS, many of whom suffered from both PeterPrinciple and AcquiredNarcissistic PersonalityDisorder decided to cancel Star Trek on the grounds of ratings. For fear of firing, nopony pointed out that demographically, Star Trek was their best show:
Certainly, unemployed HighSchoolDropOuts, did not like Star Trek, which is the main reason for its overall low ratings, but affluent CollegeEducated ponies between the ages of 30 and 65 loved Star Trek. Sponsors selling BigTicketItems would willingly pay a premium for access to those viewers.
We must steel ourselves for the possibility that DiscoveryFamily might have executives suffering from PeterPrinciple and Acquired Narcissistic PersonalityDisorder. They might cancel MLP:FIM specifically because it has adult male fans to whom they do not know how to market and have no interest in learning how to do so. Season # 05 could be the last season.
2463625 Disney XD would be the better bet. Gravity Falls moved to there after all...
Nickelodeon hasn't exactly had the best track record with their shows recently. They seem to have it out for anything that isn't Spongebob Squarepants, while keeping Spongebob on in the same way Fox kept the Simpsons. Or at least, my somewhat limited observations of the network seem to imply this. (Mostly this comes from it's treatment of Avatar, which seems to be popular enough.)
Personally I hope for Disney. Disney runs it's share of crap, but seems less inclined to axe the good stuff in the process. Probably because they can tank a little financial loss, or even just not enough financial gain, to support good shows. Everyone always hates on Disney, but it often seems to be the lesser of evils in most cases. And of course, they might actually get better toys, which would be freaking NICE. Might even make EQG dolls look not scary as hell.
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Yeah, I forgot to mention Disney XD
Yeah, it's interesting how Disney XD is shaping up. Kinda like The Hub, both are rather new. At least 4-5 years old. For a long while, XD hasn't exactly had any major draw ins. I mean, Tron Uprising and MotorCity seem great and all but they were cancelled due to poor viewership. It was only until this year when Disney decided to move their two biggest shows, Wander Over Yonder and Gravity Falls to Disney XD and from what I've heard, the two shows have been getting over a million views per episode. Plus they're getting a much better time slot and advertising there compared to being squeezed in between those tween sitcoms on the Disney Channel.
Disney is also going to put Star Wars Rebels on XD and the upcoming Star Vs. The Forces of Evil, which is a female-centric show on a boy-targeted network and was originally going to be on The Disney Channel exclusively. All of these point to Disney wanting Disney XD to be their animation powerhouse to compete with Nick and CN.
Gravity Falls, Wander Over Yonder, Star Wars Rebels, Star Vs. The Forces of Evil are/will be hits there.
If Disney got the rights to airing FiM, I wouldn't be surprised if they also aired it on XD too to gain more viewers and target even more females though they would probably still air it on The Disney Channel as well.
PS I'd want it to air on Disney XD just so I can watch it in HD since that's the only HD network where I live in
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If mlp is going to Disney or any of the others, then screw my life because I just unsubscribed to them.
Of the three options mentioned, Disney does seem like the best choice, but then again, that one makes me nervous, mostly for reasons already mentioned.
Personally, I think Netflix should grab it. Netflix has proven it can do this with other shows, and as far as I'm aware, stats-wise FiM is one of the most popularly viewed shows on the service. Not only has it been in their "most popular on Netflix" feature ever since it's launched, but a call rep even told me that before season 2 of it launched on Netflix, a large number of her calls were inquiries in when the new season would hit.
Netflix has proven willing to finance hits, and FiM has been one of its most popular steamed shows.
They could do it. Crud, we could even get a real movie out of it. Netflix seems pretty "hands-free" when it comes to them too.
From a phone.
2464228 netflix has also a good trackrecord with alot of series. I hope hasbro is considering the opertunity selling to Netflix. I fear that if anyone else got their hands on FiM, We in europe will not even get to see it before they dub it, hard.
Anyway, no matter how the future may be, it was a good run. I hope we can get a good american/canadian animation again. Until then, lets see what the future will become.
Honestly, Hasbro should just air episodes of FiM online. Most people already watch the show online in some form or another already. They could include advert space in the stream. And far as I know, there isn't anything preventing them from syndicating the episodes to other TV networks after a primer.
And considering that hosting episodes themselves online would have a far smaller overhead than partnering with another company on a new network, it makes me wonder why they haven't done this already.
Well, at least the comics should be secure for the foreseeable future. Hopefully.
The Hub....
Anyway, in all seriousness I was somewhat shocked when I first learned that the Hub was basically Hasbro own channel, because I couldn't believe that Hasbro had enough money to have their own channel.
Anyway, I really don't care because I only watched a total of 3 episodes on the Hub network and every other one was on the internet. Even if Season 5 never airs, I won't mind because it doesn't amount to the same shock as when my all time favorite cartoon,Ed, Edd, and Eddy, was finally taken off the air by Cartoon Network.
Hm... so CN is unreliable with keeping things up depending on the community and viewership of a show, DC wants to get whole IPs if they can, and Nick is not what it was before?
Did I get it right?
I know it's late to comment on this but:
Season 6 is confirmed to happen, if you weren't already aware.