Dreams
"Here we go," Princess Luna is on the balcony, preparing to enter the dream realms to locate Spike's door in the Dragon Lands without an issue.
Princess Luna concentrates on her magic, transporting herself into the dream realms. Within the dimension, Princess Luna sees many bubbles full of good dreams and nightmares her subjects are enduring. The plains are light blue with sparkling dots as stars in the background. Usually, her priorities are to subdue every pony's nightmare so that they can sleep soundly and peacefully heading into the following day; however, her objective is to find Spike and understand his motives as Dragon Lord since Twilight and Rarity explained with their emotions going erratic and Discord has the tendency of speaking vaguely to keep everyone guessing.
Princess Luna's eyes turn white as she ignites her horn, creating a pathway to follow. She flies down the path while seeing different dreams that her subjects are enjoying blissfully or suffering. "Forgive me." Princess Luna formally apologizes to those that cannot overcome their nightmares due to the stress of their day or lives.
An hour within the dimension passes; Princess Luna is in front of a shallow territory unknown to her. She extends her left hoof across a black line; it's the Equestrian Borders of the dream realms. "Interesting." There is no blockade, and she continues her path to locate Spike.
Princess Luna follows the light, leading away from the Dragon Lands and into a forest not far from the Dragon Lands' border. Only one door is present, and Luna hears Spike's cries within the dream bubble; it's dark, pitched-black as Spike screams. It was enough for Princess Luna to enter his dreams and defeat the demons that attempted to corrupt Spike's mind.
Spike can't escape from a dark abyss with walls around him; he tries to scratch the surface of it, hoping to find the light to end the shadows that shroud him. Then, all of a sudden, the walls start cracking like an egg, light outshines the darkness, and everything goes blank with the arrival of Princess Luna, pulling Spike out of his dream and into the dimension.
"Princess Luna..?" Spike didn't anticipate seeing the Princess in his dreams. It's a first since Spike normally envisions himself being with Rarity or eating dozens of gemstones to his delight, never getting a belly ache. Then, it hit him; Spike groaned that he passed out after hearing the awful revelation from Princess Ember mentioning the Dragon Eggs raid.
"Hello, Dragon Lord Spike," Princess Luna formally addresses the new leader of the Dragons with respect, from one royalty to another. Also, she wonders why Spike sounded distraught after he groaned.
"Why are you here?" Spike wonders what business Princess Luna inquires about. Could it be about the withdrawal of the conference meeting, how Discord wrote the letter addressing the situation, or his status as Dragon Lord since Twilight believes he can't rule a nation into prosperity?
"Princess Twilight and Rarity revealed their perspectives on your achievement to become Dragon Lord; I read what Discord wrote about you, and now I want to hear from you."
"You don't believe I'll be a great leader, don't you?" Spike believes that Twilight wanted Princess Luna to discuss the decision about returning to Twilight and forfeiting his status to Princess Ember or some other Dragon.
"I know you can and will achieve great things in life, Spike. You saved the Crystal Empire, and the Crystal Ponies endorsed you as Spike the Brave and Glorious. You are the only Dragon with vast knowledge of Friendship to educate all Dragons within your kingdom. There's no other Dragon that values Friendship like yourself; also, you are the one who wrote the Friendship lessons detailing what Twilight and her friends learned for Princess Celestia. As far as things are concerned, you obtained more than anyone and will apply those lessons to your nation. I know you'll be a wise King, taking the time to understand and learn how Dragons operate to make better decisions that benefit them and not yourself."
"Thank you, Luna," Spike smiles. He needed to hear from a different Princess who believed in him, unlike Twilight, who belittled him and sought to control Spike with authority, attempting to override the command of the new Dragon Lord. "Princess Luna, can I ask you a favor?"
"Sure, Dragon Lord Spike. What can I help you with?" Princess Luna wonders what Spike would want besides a comfortable bed.
"Ask Princess Celestia how Equestrian Ponies procured Dragon Eggs years ago."
That question stuns and bothers Princess Luna. She feels uneasy about her subjects hoarding Dragon Eggs, knowing it's unlawful in every way to kidnap an unborn youngling from any sentient species. The idea of an egg raid makes Luna want to vomit by how sickly and demented the plan is.
"I-I-I-I will," Princess Luna stutters with the idea that her sister committed a crime worse than her tyranny as Nightmare Moon. "What gave you the idea of Equestrian Ponies accumulating Dragon Eggs, Spike?"
"Princess Ember told me that years ago, a brigade of Ponies led by a wretched Pony Princess stole Dragon Eggs; I believe Ember saw the fallout and held the grudge for many years. I think I'm a survivor of that invasion."
Princess Luna feels heartbroken that her sister would stoop to a new level of wickedness, stripping many families of the Dragon Lands of their newborns; she covers her mouth with her front hooves, quieting her gasps as tears stream down her face. Nightmare Moon was the darkness that wanted an eternal night to rule with an iron hoof on her subjects; however, if what Spike said is true, what Princess Celestia committed is a felony of epic proportions.
"How.., can you be certain.., Spike?" Princess Luna needs one more piece of evidence to commence her investigation. She hopes Queen Chrysalis devised a ruse to lure Dragons into starting warfare with Equestrian Ponies; she hopes that her sister wouldn't arrange a twisted directive.
"If what Ember saw was true, I want to say other Dragons her age witnessed the outcome and developed egg hunting. Dragons target smaller creatures for sport; also to smash the eggs since they believe that's what Ponies have done to their kin. From one twisted angle to another, it's their way of having fun and possibly coping. I was part of a Phoenix Swipe with Garble and his friends; when I caught an egg, they encouraged me to break it. However, I did not."
Princess Luna's jaw drops; she becomes devastated that her sister's influence tainted the younger Dragons into practicing horrid atrocities. Learning that Spike partook in the event is all that she can bear. "Grrrrrrrr!" Princess Luna's irises turn, similar to a snake with the shade of hue of Nightmare Moon; she's livid. She growls in anger.
"Princess?!" Spike gets startled at the sight of Princess Luna in an enraged state.
The dimension around the two changes from blue with white dots for stars into pitch black; Princess Luna snarls while imagining the misery, mourning, anguish, and woe that many families in the Dragon Lands suffered from her sister's course of action. "Never again!" Princess Luna shouts in her royal tone and stomps her front hooves on the platform, shattering the dimension from blackness to light.
Spike is clinging to a dream bubble when Princess Luna shatters the ground; he's scared about Princess Luna's motives. "Princess!" Spike still can't fly and is worried about falling into an endless chasm.
Princess Luna exhales heavily and uses her magic to levitate Spike on her back. "Sorry that you saw that," Princess Luna sighs deeply. "I understand the food chain network of different creatures; however, Equestrian Ponies are not carnivores. My subjects taking Dragon Eggs makes no sense unless..," Princess Luna's eyes widen in horror. "That stupid school of the giiiifteeeed!" She groans as the answer becomes apparent.
"What about the.., no..," Spike shakes his head in disbelief. "No, no, no, no, no! NOOOOOOO!" Spike refuses to accept that Princess Celestia took Dragon Eggs for young Unicorns to use their magic and bring birth. He starts crying.
Princess Luna shares her sadness with her friend after realizing the horrific divulgement of the unborn Dragons that never experienced life due to unfortunate mishaps caused by younglings in Celestia's School For Gifted Unicorns.
After shedding tears, Princess Luna puts Spike on the ground, ensuring not to worry about falling. "I have to go; however, I want to visit you about my progress during my investigation."
"I'll inform my Dragons of your arrival for private affairs with Princess Ember. If what Princess Celestia has committed validates your evidence and eyewitness testimonies from the brigade and Dragons, we will hold a trial where your sister will receive due punishment."
Princess Luna nods in agreement. Although the idea of watching her sister enduring a trial she may not win, no one should ever separate an unborn child from their family. It's unlawful, no matter the status and reputation anyone upholds.
"If found guilty, I'll remove my sister from her position and take control of all Equestrian province. Then, we'll mend a peace treaty if Celestia is found guilty. If my sister is innocent, we will find the culprit."
"That we will, Luna, that we will," Spike sees Princess Luna departing. The dream realms turn black, and Spike hears Ember's voice echoing; she's calling his name.
"SPIKE!" Ember finished cooking the Manticore. She held onto Spike and hoped that he woke up after passing out three hours ago.
Spike blinks several times and yawns. He turns to Ember. "Ooooooh, what happened..? OOOF!" Spike feels Ember hugging him too tight and feels some tears from Ember.
Ember looks down at Spike after hugging him; she's worried. Genuinely worried about Spike's state of mind after hearing what she said about the Dragon Egg raiding. Spike sees the distress written on Ember's face and enjoys the hug, even though she's scared. For Spike, it's an embrace of trust and love.
"Ember," Spike sits up and stares at her with concern.
"Yes, Spike?" Ember mentally prepares herself to answer another question and hopes the next answer doesn't cause Spike to faint a second time.
"Princess Luna came to me while I was dreaming; there's something you should know about."
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Celestia is in trouble now. And now twilight has no chance with spike considering between the fact she can't let her assistant find his own path and the pedestal she puts Celestia on to the point where others become not important in order to serve her.
If Spike was the only one among the stolen eggs that hatched, then uh oh
Wonder if Smolder shows up too?
Time to dig for the truth...
I sure hope Spike will explain to Ember of what Princess Luna has told him and hopefully, she'll understand.
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True but after the greed growth she could have ask zecora if she knew anything else about dragons. He who knows one thing might know more. Zecora knows many things besides just potions and the fact is twilight should have taken the time to make sure he was growing up healthy. This just shows how unfit she is for responsibility considering spike does most of the caretaking around the house and helps her friends. And who knows the dragons might before the egg incident been willing to talk but thanks to Celestia they ended up hating ponies.
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We will see
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It's going to be a wild ride.
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We will see
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Okay, thank you
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Why do we assume that Celestia is malicious?
Why is she always made to be incompetent, when she's proven to be capable?
I hope there's a good reason for this and not an assuming reason that does not fit Celestia only to try and create tension.
I'm tired of this Celestia bashing for no real reason and making her be either incompetent (which she isn't) or a villain in disguise (which she's never been)
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Maybe uncaring about others considering as soon as twilight and friends became the element bearers she shoved everything that was a problem outside the castle on them when it wasn't their job. She put the crystal ponies at risk for a test when if she cared she would have given her everything she knew about the place and no test. She would have been there helping instead being in her castle safe and sound. She never even tried to talk with sunset despite having many chances to do so since the sirens.
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Let me clarify something that seems to pass over everyone's heads.
Celestia is a ruler of a nation, this means that she has to delegate tasks to whomever she thinks would do best at doing them.
The Bearers are heroes and a capable team, so giving them tasks that she believes they are capable is sensible, granted sometimes it wasn't necessary, but storytelling and all that.
The Crystal Empire she delegated originally to Cadence and Shining armor and only sent Twilight when it appeared that Cadence and Shining weren't enough.
Also again, the Bearers are a capable group and unless it becomes a national threat (which it wasn't at almost any point, except when Sombra appears ver briefly) Celestia had faith and trust in her chosen troubleshooters (her framing it as a test was strange, but it worked, plus she was grooming Twilight to become a Princess, so yes a test makes sense in that context).
As for Sunset, certainly talking to her more would have helped, but again, Celestia has a country to rule and while Sunsets instruction is important, it is also a side project for her (not out of malice, but simple time issues), plus has anyone tried to talk down to a rebellious teenager? It almost always goes bad.
Not saying Celestia couldn't have done better, but a rebellious phase for a teenager and worse a powerful magic one can't be an easy discussion or have an easy resolution.
Yes Celestia is not perfect, but her excessive bashing is exactly that, excessive.
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They may be heroes but it's the elements themselves that allow them to be heroes most of the time and they fact was that thanks her sending someone who was not prepared for a job they almost died because they were flatten by a dragon. So many times they only survived by luck knowledge and experience beats luck any day. And considering she obviously didn't tell shining amour and cadence any more than she told twilight or they would have said something. Shining had been trying to get info from the locals but they were to scared to really talk plus they couldn't remember much. In a situation where every second counts there is only time for giving as much information as possible and no tests. Tests are not for life and death.
As for sunset she could have written or taken a break for a bit and gone to visit her. Nothing was stopping her from helping twilight when she was causing trouble so this was certainly not a problem. Luna could have ruled for a bit if necessary. Plus at the point of the sirens sunset was reform so no rebel to talk down.
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Knowledge of the Crystal Empire was rare even for Celestia, so she gave them all she knew.
Sadly it wasn't much to start, because there was very little to begin with.
Certainly some tasks could have benefited from extra assistance, but that is called hindsight. It's very hard to know exactly what knowledge is needed beforehand, and again the Bearers are a group of 6 with a wide arrange of skills, which in the Dragon case included Fluttershys creature affinity.
Granted it might have been a stretch even with that, but it's not as if that was their only option, it just happened to be the best one.
As for Celestia taking time off, that was indeed a possibility, but again running a country is a full time job, this is not an excuse, but simply a statement of how things are.
At the time, Celestia could not reasonably leave the work to anyone, because there was no one to leave the work to.
Cadence was too young and inexperienced and Luna was still trapped in the moon and would be for many years to come.
Celestia is so f*******.
Maybe this outcome will also give a life lesson to Twilight that there is no such thing as a "perfect" princess. And she can wake up to reality, and stop bothering Spike anymore. ( And that includes you, Rarity. )
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She certainly knew more than most folks and considering she was around back then she probably knew about the heart and by the time the sirens make their appearance trying to take over the world again she had Luna and certainly could take a couple hours off. She did for twilight dinner party she could certainly do for sunset. Or she could have written in the book for goodness sake. And dragons aren't animals they are a people just as ponies. The guards would have been a better choice for dealing with a dragon. Or the most powerful beings in the land could have handled it.
Okay, but if that IS all true...then how did Celestia get Spike's egg to begin with? Has nobody really ever asked this before now? I mean, surely Twilight would've thought to back when Spike started asking questions about where he came from...
Still, yes, absolutely, ask Celestia for details and her side of the story--I suspect there's far more going on here than the dragons know, or else Celestia would've reacted to Spike becoming Dragon Lord with wariness of him finding out about this, not with the general support, acceptance, and overall little cause for alarm that she's been conveying thus far.
Further, Ember only said a princess was behind the raid, but not whether it was an alicorn or even if that princess and ponies were Equestrian (they do exist elsewhere in the world, ya know), so for all we know it wasn't actually Celestia at all but rather some other princess still we don't currently know was involved.
And it's grudges such as this that are currently standing in the way of lasting peace and unity between the ponies and the dragons, so if we want to have both of those things, we need to figure out how to resolve these grudges, ASAP. And to do that...we need to get to the bottom of just what exactly happened to cause these grudges in the first place and, more importantly, why.
That actually does seem like Chrysalis, and a number of other potential deceivers could account for it too. And at the moment, we have literally nothing that could rule it out as possible, so this is definitely something we need confirmation in full on.
Okay, first, I can't help but picture Luna saying "gifted" in something of an exaggerated and high-pitched squeal, and that mental picture just seems so comical to me.
Second, that only adds to the possibility that this was caused through some sort of misunderstanding. The first question I want to ask in response is: was Celestia even there and present for this raid? Or was it just a bunch of unrelated ponies claiming to be acting on the orders of an otherwise unspecified and unseen princess? This could be just said school's staff acting on their own under some mistaken belief they were requested to do so by Celestia when this wasn't what she'd meant at all.
Honestly, there are so many different ways to explain away how and why this event happened at all that we should all be VERY careful to blame Celestia over it just yet (just like how certain ponies should've been equally careful to be too quick to judge Spike as unable to perform as Dragon Lord
) until we can get the WHOLE story. Right now, we only have half at best, and it's a pretty vague half at that.
Totally fair and reasonable, given circumstances. Again, I'm impressed by how level-headed and sensible Spike's handling this otherwise extremely sensitive, emotional, and above all personal matter. A lesser creature would've just let their anger get the better of them, regardless of the consequences.
I honestly hope for everyone's sake that Celestia is innocent, because if she isn't, then politically speaking, this all just got a thousand times messier than it needed (much less should've) been.
I know things don't look good for Celestia right now, I'll wait till we get her side of the dragon egg story before passing judgement though!
Well folks, let's hear your side in all that's happened so far.
On one hand I'm glad Luna has faith in Spike that he will be a good Dragon Lord. On the other hand though I am worried about what will happen to Celestia.
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Well they said pony princess. There aren't a ton of those running around. For awhile there was only 2.
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You're thinking Equestrian princesses, e.g. just those of the nation of Equestria, not the entire world. It was usually only mentioned offhandedly, granted, but it was occasionally alluded to in the lore that there were other ponies serving as princesses in other nations, particularly at unspecified points in the past prior to the events of FiM. So as the event in question is said to have taken an unspecified amount of "years ago," this possibility is definitely not ruled out. And I feel that, at least for the moment, it'd be very unwise to just dismiss it offhand and immediately blame Celestia without really any actual evidence quite yet, as that'd make one no better than Twilight and Rarity have been in this story.
I'm not saying it can't still be Celestia, mind, but we also don't have the evidence to be certain it can't also be someone else entirely as well, so the old adage of "innocent until proven guilty" definitely applies here.
Besides, Celestia hasn't said or done anything thus far in this story to suspect her of much any wrongdoing at the moment. If anything, she was the first pony to favor Spike's side in the matter, so for her to be knowingly complicit in something that's the exact opposite of that...my gut instinct says this matter is, at the very least, no where near as black and white as Ember was making it out to be.
Besides, the whole "let's just blame Celestia for everything" troupe is rather cliche--I'd like to think this story is seeking to be more creative than that.
YES! The Lunar Republic shall soon arise.
But seriously, that idea does sound morbid. And even if it were true, why is Spike the only dragon in Canterlot, then? Wouldn't the other students who passed the entrance exam have successfully hatched their egg?