3526107 hey, i just dont like her because of hwo she brushes off anything important till the last second, and then doesnt even handle it herself. (The premier, return of harmony, a canterlot wedding, etc, etc.) I believe strongly in that a absolute, immortal, ruler should rule over their domain seriously. Instead of spending time eating cake and teaching her student (a, by all rights, super powerful god even before her ascension, which was bullshit, because she is the physical manifestation of the mother of all applied phlebotinum) about fucking friendship. Which is bullshit, by the way. If friendship was actually what powered the elements, then celestia wouldn't have been able to use them all simultaneously on NMM. Therefore sending evolved form of best pony to the moon.
3526244 you can't use canon to prove your point and then avoid canon at other points. Celestia may have failed at protecting canter lot during the changeling invasion but Luna didn't even show up. Luna hadn't bothered to catch up on the civilisation of today before nightmare night and because she was overbearing she caused the ponies to fear her and as a result banned Nightmare night. Luna thought that preventing the sun from rising would naturally be the best idea ever. Also don't forget that every time Celestis has failed during the series (Excluding the pilot) Luna equally failed. Finally Celestia may have lost to Chrisalis but NMM (Luna's Evolved form as you liked to put it) got dominated by 5 ponies who had only just met and had no significant talent considering it took both Celestia and the elements combined to stop her before, now after all these eons of preparation time falls to regular ponies.
Celestia doesn't have to be your favourite pony or even in your top 10, but how can you honestly hate a fictional character like that?
3526350 Because, up until a canterlot wedding, Twilight was my fave. And then Celestia trod all over her like a pile of shit and Twilight just took it.
And while you are correct about Luna, 1: she is not the primary monarch. In fact she was so unimportant that her position as a ruler got her enough resentment to resort to straight-up unplanned rebellion (if i had been here, careful planning and pacing would have been the way to go) 2: she spent a thousand years on the moon with an (evil) alter ego. You think she spent that time planning? Oh, and in that time, celestia did what, again? Ate cake and let her royal guard stagnate to the point they cant handle a singular, uncoordinated assault on a sinle city?
3526406 In regards to Canterlot Wedding I do agree that Celestia could have been a little more open eared to her student but her student did go out of her way to ruin the wedding, from where Celestia was standing it probably looked like Twilight was having a hissy fit because she didn't like "Cadenza", I mean all she did was hate on her. The whole episode threw normalities out the window just for convenience, Luna not turning up being one of them (You'd assume she'd be the first port of call after Celestia defeat). Also Celestia did apologise for not listening, so it's not like Celestia was being stuck up, she like everyone else was probably feeling the tensions of a wedding at the time.
I do believe her alter ego would have used those 1,000 years to ensure her victory yes.
I also believe that Celestia and Luna's powers are not really explained properly, especially since Unicorns can raise the sun and moon, it is just assumed that their powers are beyond comprehension. It is my belief that like Superman their powers are scaled to what the situation demands of them, sometimes they are all-powerful gods and sometimes they're as sturdy as driftwood.
I agree that there are some things that are simply dubious about Celestia, but that's simply because we don't know her side of the story. Although that doesn't mean she's flawless either.
What if Luna's speech pattern was there because Celestia hadn't bothered to inform her that it was dropped? Or was it simply because Luna was recovering from being blasted by the Rainbow?
You must remember that the episodes are not ordered chronologically, so we have limited idea of passage of time. Luna could have come to Ponyville quite soon after her return.
The sad thing is that Luna was a background character. Heck, at first Lauren Faust meant Celestia to have no sister and be a Queen, but realized that kids associate Queens with evil. (Except British kids) The fact that Luna was so well-received by fans made her become more prominent.
Yet we don't see her in both Discord's return or the Wedding. Why? Some figure putting her in raises the cost of an episode. Some speculate she was disguised as Chrysalis in order to help Cadence understand the power of love. Some even say that she was asleep, and that sounds quite logical, what with Luna being presumed as nocturnal.
We see a bit more of her in Season 3, but once again, she isn't the focus of this show, so her episodes are mostly to give her a back-story. We haven't had a Celestia-centred back-story yet so we know next to nothing about her.
All in all, never forget the underlying tones of the show. Love and tolerate. One's favourite pony doesn't have to be the other person's and vice versa. One's head-canon doesn't always adhere to other people's ideas.
That was a great Chapter I think Luna and Trixie should go on a double date with Rainbow and Twilight I think that would be a great chapter and will help continue blossoming the friendship Trixie is starting to get with Twilight I WANT MOAR SOON If that is alright with you
P.S Oh wait I still have a couple more chapters before I should say that
How do you do the 'cover over words' thing? Like you have in your Author's Note?
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[ spoiler ] [ /spoiler ] without the spaces
and like that it comes out like this.
3524942 [ spoiler]text here[ /spoiler]
But without the spaces.
this is what it should look like.
Feel free to comment for practice, I suppose.
I'm a tad tired right now, just wanted to say, if you do a rereading you'll find a few typos x3 Just letting you know.
THIS SUCKS -Trixie
I KNOW SORRY-Twilight
If that was it, it was child's play.
Not TwiLuna? Meh...
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anything with luna as a main character is good. especially if its a ship of any kind (although Twiluna is my OTP)
3525861 Yeah but having her be with others than Twi leaves a bad taste in my mouth...
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just take comfort in the fact that its Luna thats getting some, and not Celestia. (worst pony.)
3526011 Take that back. Celly is among my top fave pones.
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hey, i just dont like her because of hwo she brushes off anything important till the last second, and then doesnt even handle it herself. (The premier, return of harmony, a canterlot wedding, etc, etc.) I believe strongly in that a absolute, immortal, ruler should rule over their domain seriously. Instead of spending time eating cake and teaching her student (a, by all rights, super powerful god even before her ascension, which was bullshit, because she is the physical manifestation of the mother of all applied phlebotinum) about fucking friendship. Which is bullshit, by the way. If friendship was actually what powered the elements, then celestia wouldn't have been able to use them all simultaneously on NMM. Therefore sending evolved form of best pony to the moon.
3526244 you can't use canon to prove your point and then avoid canon at other points.
Celestia may have failed at protecting canter lot during the changeling invasion but Luna didn't even show up.
Luna hadn't bothered to catch up on the civilisation of today before nightmare night and because she was overbearing she caused the ponies to fear her and as a result banned Nightmare night.
Luna thought that preventing the sun from rising would naturally be the best idea ever.
Also don't forget that every time Celestis has failed during the series (Excluding the pilot) Luna equally failed.
Finally Celestia may have lost to Chrisalis but NMM (Luna's Evolved form as you liked to put it) got dominated by 5 ponies who had only just met and had no significant talent considering it took both Celestia and the elements combined to stop her before, now after all these eons of preparation time falls to regular ponies.
Celestia doesn't have to be your favourite pony or even in your top 10, but how can you honestly hate a fictional character like that?
Also Celestia is best Princess.
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Because, up until a canterlot wedding, Twilight was my fave. And then Celestia trod all over her like a pile of shit and Twilight just took it.
And while you are correct about Luna,
1: she is not the primary monarch. In fact she was so unimportant that her position as a ruler got her enough resentment to resort to straight-up unplanned rebellion (if i had been here, careful planning and pacing would have been the way to go)
2: she spent a thousand years on the moon with an (evil) alter ego. You think she spent that time planning? Oh, and in that time, celestia did what, again? Ate cake and let her royal guard stagnate to the point they cant handle a singular, uncoordinated assault on a sinle city?
3526406
In regards to Canterlot Wedding I do agree that Celestia could have been a little more open eared to her student but her student did go out of her way to ruin the wedding, from where Celestia was standing it probably looked like Twilight was having a hissy fit because she didn't like "Cadenza", I mean all she did was hate on her. The whole episode threw normalities out the window just for convenience, Luna not turning up being one of them (You'd assume she'd be the first port of call after Celestia defeat). Also Celestia did apologise for not listening, so it's not like Celestia was being stuck up, she like everyone else was probably feeling the tensions of a wedding at the time.
I do believe her alter ego would have used those 1,000 years to ensure her victory yes.
I also believe that Celestia and Luna's powers are not really explained properly, especially since Unicorns can raise the sun and moon, it is just assumed that their powers are beyond comprehension. It is my belief that like Superman their powers are scaled to what the situation demands of them, sometimes they are all-powerful gods and sometimes they're as sturdy as driftwood.
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How bout this: A canterlot wedding is being thrown in the pile of 'non-canon' along with most of season 3 and EQ:G?
Thou shalt cease this pointless debate!
I agree that there are some things that are simply dubious about Celestia, but that's simply
because we don't know her side of the story. Although that doesn't mean she's flawless either.
What if Luna's speech pattern was there because Celestia hadn't bothered to inform her
that it was dropped? Or was it simply because Luna was recovering from being blasted
by the Rainbow?
You must remember that the episodes are not ordered chronologically, so we have limited
idea of passage of time. Luna could have come to Ponyville quite soon after her return.
The sad thing is that Luna was a background character. Heck, at first Lauren Faust meant
Celestia to have no sister and be a Queen, but realized that kids associate Queens with evil.
(Except British kids) The fact that Luna was so well-received by fans made her become more
prominent.
Yet we don't see her in both Discord's return or the Wedding. Why? Some figure putting her in
raises the cost of an episode. Some speculate she was disguised as Chrysalis in order to help
Cadence understand the power of love. Some even say that she was asleep, and that sounds
quite logical, what with Luna being presumed as nocturnal.
We see a bit more of her in Season 3, but once again, she isn't the focus of this show, so her
episodes are mostly to give her a back-story. We haven't had a Celestia-centred back-story yet
so we know next to nothing about her.
All in all, never forget the underlying tones of the show. Love and tolerate.
One's favourite pony doesn't have to be the other person's and vice versa.
One's head-canon doesn't always adhere to other people's ideas.
That was a great Chapter I think Luna and Trixie should go on a double date with Rainbow and Twilight I think that would be a great chapter and will help continue blossoming the friendship Trixie is starting to get with Twilight I WANT MOAR SOON If that is alright with you
P.S Oh wait I still have a couple more chapters before I should say that