8631349 The sheer amount of blacked out tags were enough to warrant my taking a look. Again with the SJW thing. It doesn't mean whatever you think it means. Well, I was hoping you could tell me why someone who isn't a pedophile would write foalcon. In fact I asked that question in my last post, but luckily for you someone was kind enough to answer that question for you. Still, I am kind of curious what your answer would be to that question.
8631240 Hey, I just decided to voice my opinion in a comment section. I'm not angry at the person who made this story. In fact I feel kinda bad for them because if the story hadn't gotten featured, it probably wouldn't have gotten nearly as many dislikes. I felt that one particular scene gave off some creepy uncle vibes I found a bit disturbing (only read one chapter as of this post). I went into that a little bit in my earlier comments. Contrary to what you might say, I don't see myself as superior to you. I'm not trying to convince you that foalcon is a vile and evil thing. I just think "SJW" is a dumb word that you really shouldn't use due to it's extreme over usage. Kinda like "nazi".
8630361 Discord recently changed their rules regarding NSFW posting that lolicon was considered pedophilia and would be punished as such, or at least thats what one of the servers I'm on said.
I will admit this is a tertiary unconfirmed source and I'm to lazy to look it up but thats one example I know off the top of my head.
Someone who throws a fit because something they find socially unacceptable is presented, even if they are not in any way involved with the social interaction or situation.
All things seen as wrong by a society is a social construct. By fighting a construct that conflict with your views of how things should be given to you by society, you become a social justice warrior.
Basically if you say something is wrong because it conflicts with your morals, on the ground you believe it to be ethically unacceptable, you become an SJW.
Its not always a bad thing, but usually it is because now people are fighting stupid things like fiction and opinions.
The like ratio and comments section of this story seems significantly more aggressive than nearly every other foalcon story on this site I've seen. Is it because people haven't seen them in a while and a whole bunch of new users have joined the site? These reactions seem really strange to me.
Cultivating a fetish for sex acts that are woefully destructive if ever enacted is a poor plan. Pedophilia is a disease. Choosing to encourage it is the worst possible way of treating it.
8632753 The act, absolutely. Having a fetish? It's not really something that can be controlled or treated. What exactly is a medical professional supposed to do or say to the fact that someone is turned on by fiction about anthropomorphic animals who are fictionally underage? It's not like the cartoon ponies in question are in any danger. Furthermore, I would argue if you're turned on by cartoon horses you are less than likely to be similarly turned on by real life children. Horses maybe, but bestiality is a whole other issue.
I get that you're upset, but I'm not sure anything can or should be done about this.
8632772 Dude, I've written loads of foalcon clop, gone through the same 'shit' he is going through, and that was my easy advice/solution for him. He doesn't have to defend himself when he's done nothing wrong. Reading/writing/imagining stuff is completely okay. The line is crossed if you'd actually do something in real life. Which in this case would be to take a bath with a young horse and tell it about sex. Not sure if it would be quite the same...
Now, if the author wishes to comment, talk about it with a fellow foalconner etc, he's of course welcome to do so, but I don't think he needs someone to talk for him, as he seems to be completely able to do it himself.
Also there was a smiley-twiley. That means fun. Smileys = fun. See?
Yes I was fucked with at a young age and I only implied most people twist my word you didn't do anything the head damage just make my emotions screwy sometime I feel an emotion for no reason, like one moment I am sit literarily doing nothing the next laughing at nothing. I've had to learn to detach from my emotions and keep them detached because I can't trust them sometimes and there mostly never clear. My hatred for pedophiles is one of the few clear ones I have.
The vore just a domination thing for me. And hard vore basically involves gore or bloody description of how they meet their end. Soft vore just has them swallowed and some struggling and light teasing and they get absorbed or nonfatal their just held inside them because feels it good to them the struggling of their pray. I only read adult to adult female predator, male pray and humanoid, beastial dose not for me. But the major difference between vore and this, vore is completely fictional most of what is done there isn't possible THIS FOALCON iS far to close to reality and that is the problem it is possible.
Haha, I am going to upvote and comment just to keep this in the featured box because the histrionic virtue signaling of the pearl clutching moral crusaders in the comments bring me a deep, deep joy.
People like things you don't like and there is nothing you can do about it! Weeeeeeee!
8633117 I find it kind of weird how we accept people mindlessly liking something and commenting on its greatness yet when the same happens with people hating something it's suddenly a big deal.
I myself don't give a shit anymore. I read it and if I like it and am passionate about it I comment what I liked.
Few fics do that anymore for me.
As for this fic? You may write the best rape/foalcon fic ever and be really awesome but... If you honestly expect people not to give you shit about the issue you're reeeeeally out of touch.
I am against notions of like "If you don't like it ignore it" or "don't comment if you don't like it". It's mind-boggling for me that people expect these kinds of fics not to get disliked or expect not to be affected by people's opinions for writing them.
Admittedly some people are overbearing about it but there was leverage given to them to do so.
8632860 This basically sums up my opinions on the whole comments section of this story.
If you don't like this story, I don't really care about your mental disorders or your MPD or how you were touched as a child. Unless you were a small talking pink magical winged unicorn filly being willingly touched by a unicorn stallion, and could vaporize him at any second with magic, this isn't the same in the least.
That's not to say I don't feel bad for victims of sexual abuse, but, as said before, this isn't that.
This has just gone too far. There is a story in the related section of my story that has 207/52 likes/dislikes about Flurry literally being whored out by her parents to adult stallions of other nations.
What makes this one so much worse than that one, I ask, when Flurry is loved by Sun in this one and not just a sexual bartering object?
8633151 Probably some group decided to downvote-bomb you or someone with a few dozen alt accounts was triggered or maybe people are so high up in Christmas spirits (or their asses) that they decided to make this their moral high ground for the year. Or maybe Jupiter was in Libra.
The comment by 8632860 sums up my opinions on the whole comments section of this story.
If you don't like this story, leave a dislike and move on, or simply say 'I didn't like this story because it had x problem with the writing'. If you don't like the content, that's fine, but I don't really care about your mental disorders or your MPD or how you were touched as a child. That's irrelevant to this story. Unless you were a small talking pink magical winged unicorn filly being willingly touched by a unicorn stallion, and could vaporize him at any second with magic, this isn't the same in the least.
That's not to say I don't feel bad for victims of sexual abuse, but, as said before, this isn't that.
This has just gone too far. There is a story in the related section of my story that has 207/52 likes/dislikes about Flurry literally being whored out by her parents to adult stallions of other nations, and people seemed to be just fine with that.
What makes this one so much worse than that one, I ask, when Flurry is deeply loved and cared for by Sun in this one and not just a sexual bartering object?
This has just gone too far. There is a story in the related section of my story that has 207/52 likes/dislikes about Flurry literally being whored out by her parents to adult stallions of other nations, and people seemed to be just fine with that.
What makes this one so much worse than that one, I ask, when Flurry is deeply loved and cared for by Sun in this one and not just a sexual bartering object?
That's life, dude. Honestly. It's like when you and everyone else is going 80 mph in a 60 (or 95 in a 75 in Texas because fuck it), but the cop stops you out of them all.
I could say, maybe, that with current events surrounding pedophiles coming up so often in the news, people are more averted and sensitive to th topic, but that's all speculation with no easy way of proving. In the end, it is what it is.
EDIT: Now that I think about it, with that Alabama governor or whatever almost being elected while having a child sex scandal actively being investigated, that one girl who is going to be in prison for 46 years or so because she murdered her sex slaveowner, and this weird pedosexual movement going on, I'd say bad timing is most likely exactly why this is happening.
Whether or not the two are comparable isn't necessarily the point either. Obviously, most people don't distinguish between the two, so they're going to hate regardless. Sorry to say that you're just victim of circumstance because that story you're referring to was released at the beginning of this year, and all of these scandals nowadays weren't on the news. Everyone worried about Trump instead. Oh, how things have changed.
8633337 I can tell you why people are making a bigger deal of this one.
Its because its talking about the situation as if the little one wants it. If she didn't want this, it would actually be morally more acceptable, strangely enough.
The idea that children could want something sexual, in any situation, even if those situations CAN exist, is something people find sickening and don't want to accept. I'm inclined to agree as it takes two to tango, and at formative years, children can be taught to like literally anything.... Including murder.
Put in a better way, rape is not as bad as brainwashing.
At least you have a better chance at getting better coming out of rape, even if underage. Brainwashing? You continue what was done to you.
8633386 So Flurry screaming and crying while being forced into violent sex and being traumatized for the rest of her life, having a fear of sex, is better than feeling good for a while and moving on with her life? Ok, yeah, no, you're right that's WAY better. /sarcasm
Also, sex is hardwired into everyone's instincts, regardless of age, even if ppl want to ignore that fact. They just ramp up more during puberty. That's just how things are.
Also also, there's another story with 152/29 likes/dislikes with 4.4k views in the related that is basically the same content as my story, a filly Diamond Tiara and Filthy Rich, her father, having sex AND SHE LIKES IT TOO. Again, what is so much worse about mine to warrant such abuse to me? Because it contains more scenes? Cuz he's not related to her by blood? How is that better?
8633538 To some people, the idea that someone underage could 'want' sex, is unfathomable, or at least unacceptable.
What's interesting is that some folks, instead of taking a responsible Sex Ed approach to children asking such questions—and recognizing that most kids are curious enough to ask before school breaches the topic—they just get even more tight-lipped and overly conservative on the matter.
Paradoxically, a story with rape gives people a refreshingly clear, obvious 'villain' to dump hate onto, as opposed to an underage fanfic where both parties are apparently consenting to an 'unacceptable' act. I'm not hating on your story, I'm merely attempting to see from the perspective of the people who take issue with this premise.
There doesn't always have to be a villain in a story, and yes, both are consenting and enjoying themselves. Apparently, though, Flurry should be miserable and traumatized instead. Yeah, nah, not my style.
Kids should be taught about sex at least to some extent if they ask, even if not as graphically as depicted in this story (and obviously not with the acts performed as well). A younger family member of mine was told that men and women have a special little part of each of them that, when they meet inside the woman's tummy, make a baby. He doesn't know what those are (sperm and eggs), nor how they get there, and he hasn't asked more on the subject. He was placated with that answer, and it wasn't even slightly graphic or evasive.
Most people simply have an archaic view of sex: that sex is evil and dirty and that anyone who has sex except strictly for reproduction are 'whores' or 'sluts', male or female alike. Not a view that sex can, with protection, be something that can help others bond together closer. Surely it can't be simply a way to show how much you love someone else, nor a way to share pleasure. No, no, it's just an evil, vile thing that is a sin outside of being used to make a child with.
8633608 I know there doesn't 'have' to be a villain, but the presence of one makes such an act easier for some folks to swallow, when it comes to this premise.
To some folks, the mere idea that it could be acceptable, even in fiction, is repulsive to them. Again, just trying to take their perspectives into account; I personally still intend to read this to the end, because I'm not put off by this concept of fiction.
I dont understand why people are complaining specifically of this Fanfic...i mean, there are hundreds of other stories which involve this type of themes...if that is the case, them why this fic is receiving to much hate?!
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It's a bit of a step to be drawn to erotica and actually victimizing a child. That's why we can manage to view porn without becoming rapists.
Good, good.. but why the cliffhanger?!?!?!??!! I hate cliffhangers!! (but I’ll let it slide just this once... keep up the good work!)
Very nice and all but... Did you forget to add half of it? It just ends... Like right in the middle...
great job. cant wait for more
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Thanks for being kind enough to answer my question. I guess I wasn't thinking about it like that.
Awesome work. Can't wait for the next chapter!
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The sheer amount of blacked out tags were enough to warrant my taking a look.
Again with the SJW thing. It doesn't mean whatever you think it means.
Well, I was hoping you could tell me why someone who isn't a pedophile would write foalcon. In fact I asked that question in my last post, but luckily for you someone was kind enough to answer that question for you. Still, I am kind of curious what your answer would be to that question.
No matter how well intentioned he is, it's only digging himself deeper for himself.
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Hey, I just decided to voice my opinion in a comment section. I'm not angry at the person who made this story. In fact I feel kinda bad for them because if the story hadn't gotten featured, it probably wouldn't have gotten nearly as many dislikes. I felt that one particular scene gave off some creepy uncle vibes I found a bit disturbing (only read one chapter as of this post). I went into that a little bit in my earlier comments. Contrary to what you might say, I don't see myself as superior to you. I'm not trying to convince you that foalcon is a vile and evil thing. I just think "SJW" is a dumb word that you really shouldn't use due to it's extreme over usage. Kinda like "nazi".
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Discord recently changed their rules regarding NSFW posting that lolicon was considered pedophilia and would be punished as such, or at least thats what one of the servers I'm on said.
I will admit this is a tertiary unconfirmed source and I'm to lazy to look it up but thats one example I know off the top of my head.
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SJW
Social Justice Warrior.
Someone who throws a fit because something they find socially unacceptable is presented, even if they are not in any way involved with the social interaction or situation.
All things seen as wrong by a society is a social construct. By fighting a construct that conflict with your views of how things should be given to you by society, you become a social justice warrior.
Basically if you say something is wrong because it conflicts with your morals, on the ground you believe it to be ethically unacceptable, you become an SJW.
Its not always a bad thing, but usually it is because now people are fighting stupid things like fiction and opinions.
The like ratio and comments section of this story seems significantly more aggressive than nearly every other foalcon story on this site I've seen. Is it because people haven't seen them in a while and a whole bunch of new users have joined the site? These reactions seem really strange to me.
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Cliffhanger (noun) - an ending to an episode of a serial drama that leaves the audience in suspense
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Cultivating a fetish for sex acts that are woefully destructive if ever enacted is a poor plan. Pedophilia is a disease. Choosing to encourage it is the worst possible way of treating it.
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The act, absolutely. Having a fetish? It's not really something that can be controlled or treated. What exactly is a medical professional supposed to do or say to the fact that someone is turned on by fiction about anthropomorphic animals who are fictionally underage? It's not like the cartoon ponies in question are in any danger. Furthermore, I would argue if you're turned on by cartoon horses you are less than likely to be similarly turned on by real life children. Horses maybe, but bestiality is a whole other issue.
I get that you're upset, but I'm not sure anything can or should be done about this.
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If you don't like it, don't read it. Save your kinkshaming about imaginary cartoon ponies for someone who cares.
Great chapter, even if I don't support these types of stories.
For some reason I feel dirty
Oh don’t mind me, just enjoying the story. Guilty feeling is gone now.
Such controversy in the comments, hm.
I think you've done well here; if you've attracted haters with your work, you did something right.
8632772 Dude, I've written loads of foalcon clop, gone through the same 'shit' he is going through, and that was my easy advice/solution for him. He doesn't have to defend himself when he's done nothing wrong. Reading/writing/imagining stuff is completely okay. The line is crossed if you'd actually do something in real life. Which in this case would be to take a bath with a young horse and tell it about sex. Not sure if it would be quite the same...
Now, if the author wishes to comment, talk about it with a fellow foalconner etc, he's of course welcome to do so, but I don't think he needs someone to talk for him, as he seems to be completely able to do it himself.
Also there was a smiley-twiley. That means fun. Smileys = fun. See?
Yes I was fucked with at a young age and I only implied most people twist my word you didn't do anything the head damage just make my emotions screwy sometime I feel an emotion for no reason, like one moment I am sit literarily doing nothing the next laughing at nothing. I've had to learn to detach from my emotions and keep them detached because I can't trust them sometimes and there mostly never clear. My hatred for pedophiles is one of the few clear ones I have.
The vore just a domination thing for me. And hard vore basically involves gore or bloody description of how they meet their end. Soft vore just has them swallowed and some struggling and light teasing and they get absorbed or nonfatal their just held inside them because feels it good to them the struggling of their pray. I only read adult to adult female predator, male pray and humanoid, beastial dose not for me. But the major difference between vore and this, vore is completely fictional most of what is done there isn't possible THIS FOALCON iS far to close to reality and that is the problem it is possible.
8632860
Or smug looking book horse
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We can't choose how we're born to look!
Haha, I am going to upvote and comment just to keep this in the featured box because the histrionic virtue signaling of the pearl clutching moral crusaders in the comments bring me a deep, deep joy.
People like things you don't like and there is nothing you can do about it! Weeeeeeee!
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That's a wrong reason to like a fic.
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Don't get me wrong I enjoyed the fic too.
The comments made it special though.
8633117
I find it kind of weird how we accept people mindlessly liking something and commenting on its greatness yet when the same happens with people hating something it's suddenly a big deal.
I myself don't give a shit anymore. I read it and if I like it and am passionate about it I comment what I liked.
Few fics do that anymore for me.
As for this fic? You may write the best rape/foalcon fic ever and be really awesome but... If you honestly expect people not to give you shit about the issue you're reeeeeally out of touch.
I am against notions of like "If you don't like it ignore it" or "don't comment if you don't like it". It's mind-boggling for me that people expect these kinds of fics not to get disliked or expect not to be affected by people's opinions for writing them.
Admittedly some people are overbearing about it but there was leverage given to them to do so.
8632860
This basically sums up my opinions on the whole comments section of this story.
If you don't like this story, I don't really care about your mental disorders or your MPD or how you were touched as a child. Unless you were a small talking pink magical winged unicorn filly being willingly touched by a unicorn stallion, and could vaporize him at any second with magic, this isn't the same in the least.
That's not to say I don't feel bad for victims of sexual abuse, but, as said before, this isn't that.
This has just gone too far. There is a story in the related section of my story that has 207/52 likes/dislikes about Flurry literally being whored out by her parents to adult stallions of other nations.
What makes this one so much worse than that one, I ask, when Flurry is loved by Sun in this one and not just a sexual bartering object?
8633066
How dare you call these annoying, virtue signaling cancers of humanity crusaders...
Deus Vult
the comment section in a nutshell
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Probably some group decided to downvote-bomb you or someone with a few dozen alt accounts was triggered or maybe people are so high up in Christmas spirits (or their asses) that they decided to make this their moral high ground for the year. Or maybe Jupiter was in Libra.
Don't know, don't care, need moar foalcon. Gimme.
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The comment by 8632860 sums up my opinions on the whole comments section of this story.
If you don't like this story, leave a dislike and move on, or simply say 'I didn't like this story because it had x problem with the writing'. If you don't like the content, that's fine, but I don't really care about your mental disorders or your MPD or how you were touched as a child. That's irrelevant to this story. Unless you were a small talking pink magical winged unicorn filly being willingly touched by a unicorn stallion, and could vaporize him at any second with magic, this isn't the same in the least.
That's not to say I don't feel bad for victims of sexual abuse, but, as said before, this isn't that.
This has just gone too far. There is a story in the related section of my story that has 207/52 likes/dislikes about Flurry literally being whored out by her parents to adult stallions of other nations, and people seemed to be just fine with that.
What makes this one so much worse than that one, I ask, when Flurry is deeply loved and cared for by Sun in this one and not just a sexual bartering object?
8633337
That's life, dude. Honestly. It's like when you and everyone else is going 80 mph in a 60 (or 95 in a 75 in Texas because fuck it), but the cop stops you out of them all.
I could say, maybe, that with current events surrounding pedophiles coming up so often in the news, people are more averted and sensitive to th topic, but that's all speculation with no easy way of proving. In the end, it is what it is.
EDIT: Now that I think about it, with that Alabama governor or whatever almost being elected while having a child sex scandal actively being investigated, that one girl who is going to be in prison for 46 years or so because she murdered her sex slaveowner, and this weird pedosexual movement going on, I'd say bad timing is most likely exactly why this is happening.
Whether or not the two are comparable isn't necessarily the point either. Obviously, most people don't distinguish between the two, so they're going to hate regardless. Sorry to say that you're just victim of circumstance because that story you're referring to was released at the beginning of this year, and all of these scandals nowadays weren't on the news. Everyone worried about Trump instead. Oh, how things have changed.
8633337
I can tell you why people are making a bigger deal of this one.
Its because its talking about the situation as if the little one wants it. If she didn't want this, it would actually be morally more acceptable, strangely enough.
The idea that children could want something sexual, in any situation, even if those situations CAN exist, is something people find sickening and don't want to accept. I'm inclined to agree as it takes two to tango, and at formative years, children can be taught to like literally anything.... Including murder.
Put in a better way, rape is not as bad as brainwashing.
At least you have a better chance at getting better coming out of rape, even if underage. Brainwashing? You continue what was done to you.
Oh.
It's that kind of story.
8633386
So Flurry screaming and crying while being forced into violent sex and being traumatized for the rest of her life, having a fear of sex, is better than feeling good for a while and moving on with her life? Ok, yeah, no, you're right that's WAY better. /sarcasm
Also, sex is hardwired into everyone's instincts, regardless of age, even if ppl want to ignore that fact. They just ramp up more during puberty. That's just how things are.
Also also, there's another story with 152/29 likes/dislikes with 4.4k views in the related that is basically the same content as my story, a filly Diamond Tiara and Filthy Rich, her father, having sex AND SHE LIKES IT TOO. Again, what is so much worse about mine to warrant such abuse to me? Because it contains more scenes? Cuz he's not related to her by blood? How is that better?
8633538
To some people, the idea that someone underage could 'want' sex, is unfathomable, or at least unacceptable.
What's interesting is that some folks, instead of taking a responsible Sex Ed approach to children asking such questions—and recognizing that most kids are curious enough to ask before school breaches the topic—they just get even more tight-lipped and overly conservative on the matter.
Paradoxically, a story with rape gives people a refreshingly clear, obvious 'villain' to dump hate onto, as opposed to an underage fanfic where both parties are apparently consenting to an 'unacceptable' act. I'm not hating on your story, I'm merely attempting to see from the perspective of the people who take issue with this premise.
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There doesn't always have to be a villain in a story, and yes, both are consenting and enjoying themselves. Apparently, though, Flurry should be miserable and traumatized instead. Yeah, nah, not my style.
Kids should be taught about sex at least to some extent if they ask, even if not as graphically as depicted in this story (and obviously not with the acts performed as well). A younger family member of mine was told that men and women have a special little part of each of them that, when they meet inside the woman's tummy, make a baby. He doesn't know what those are (sperm and eggs), nor how they get there, and he hasn't asked more on the subject. He was placated with that answer, and it wasn't even slightly graphic or evasive.
Most people simply have an archaic view of sex: that sex is evil and dirty and that anyone who has sex except strictly for reproduction are 'whores' or 'sluts', male or female alike. Not a view that sex can, with protection, be something that can help others bond together closer. Surely it can't be simply a way to show how much you love someone else, nor a way to share pleasure. No, no, it's just an evil, vile thing that is a sin outside of being used to make a child with.
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I know there doesn't 'have' to be a villain, but the presence of one makes such an act easier for some folks to swallow, when it comes to this premise.
To some folks, the mere idea that it could be acceptable, even in fiction, is repulsive to them. Again, just trying to take their perspectives into account; I personally still intend to read this to the end, because I'm not put off by this concept of fiction.
I dont understand why people are complaining specifically of this Fanfic...i mean, there are hundreds of other stories which involve this type of themes...if that is the case, them why this fic is receiving to much hate?!