Page generated in 0.037 seconds
Total duration
752 users online
951,353 hits today, 2,921,617 yesterday
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic Fanfiction
Designed and coded by knighty & Xaquseg - © 2011-2024
Support us
SubStar
Chat!
Discord
Follow us
Twitter
MLP: Friendship is Magic® - © 2024 Hasbro Inc.®
Fimfiction is in no way affiliated with or endorsed by Hasbro Inc.®
The confusion about the system of trade is adorably innocent, I love it.
-Mis
8702562 There are a lot of little things like that that our PONI are going to need explained to them.
Ah, post-scarcity society meets the ideals of the current world.
now they all just need to lean to talk to organics, otherwise this is gonna be a real short trip...
8702687 Hee.
My dear Damaged
I am deaply disapointed; shoked even. I thought you wanted to make this story believable by staying as close to physics as possible. And then I had to read this. “Objective years”. Come on. ;P
What I have been wondering about the last few days: where did they get all the bio matter for millions of foals within less then 30 years?
Finally they are going back home,I am surprised that they didn't consider the benefits of magic of being able to move stellar masses like Luna and Celestia as well as being able to control the fusion of starts themselves that you make the AGI's civilization's expand significantly with having the means to build starts much more easily. I was a bit diapointed that haven seen much in the way of any ensemble of of civilization as we know it, we just seem to the the AI's servicing the Poni's and satisfy what ever interests they haves, and not much in the way of interactions between them either.
8702729 Objective years, as in how many years pass at Star-0 while they are traveling at relativistic speeds. You know about time dilation at near-lightspeed, right? (Although I realize now they were talking about the time dilation aboard the ship, so it should be subjective.)
As for where they are getting "bio matter": the machines are doing starlifting to create what elements they need, then they process that into the molecules required. Not every sphere is involved in starlifting, of course, but there are billions of these moon-sized spheres. A few million kg of organic compounds, when you are building starships on a massive scale, is not really a stretch at all.
8702789 Indeed! I am sure Jet and Upper would be poking Celestia quite a bit about her talents if they think to.
It would be really easy to demonstrate the point with a simulation:
Market with currency and market without currency, and the one selling goods that you want doesn't want the goods that you start out with.
However, trade does not have to involve a currency. They could have simply explained:
Trade is mutual exchange of goods(goods can include information, services or currency, if a currency exists), that the involved parties agree are of equal value, or in case each party values the goods they receive more than the goods they send.
As for why it should be mutual: They do actually have a relatively rare good currently: PON(I)less horns, so to explain that, one could simply point out the case in which the other party is interested in one's horn.
8702968 They don't have a currency in place. Everything in the machine society is valued (and promoted) based on efficiency gains. The PONI are using relatively small resources (with a few billion spheres, they have 2 devoted to PONI), and are already giving huge gains in efficiency (Bright Hope being the biggest, by cutting a huge chunk out of starship travel times).
Someone in chat brought up "It will be great when the machines can operate horns without PONI being attached," and I pointed out that the moment the machines don't need the pony brain attached to the horn, it becomes a liability in terms of efficiency. That would be the end of PONIs.
I recently stumbled upon this story, and I've got to say that it's criminally underrated. Probably due to the Mature rating; I imagine that it might've been advertised as a dark/depressing when it was first published. It's now one of my favourite stories on the site, and surprisingly uplifting beyond the first dozen chapters.
On another note, are unicorns going to be the only subspecies of any significant value to the machines because of their horns? I recall in a Mass Effect crossover that earth ponies and pegasi also have dark energy nodes in their bodies; it's just spread throughout their wings and limbs as opposed to being concentrated in a horn.
8702687 Learning's the easy part. Enduring each and every conversation's probably a whole other matter.
"Mom, these ponies take forever to say anything!"
"Dad, I could finish contemplating my life's choices in the time it takes them to say hello."
I'd like to see how the kids deal with the concept of lying.
"You mean they're deliberately giving us false data? Why?"
8702995 Thanks!
As was mentioned, there was work done (genome editing) to select for unicorn foals only, although in the first few billion one earth pony slips through. They were fitted with an artificial horn, and are now doing fine.
8702995
do not forget, PONI not only lack a reference for speaking to organics, they also lack the capacity. PON and PONI communicate through data transmission interrupts communicated wirelessly, they lack the ability to produce auditory sound. not only must the foals learn the pony language, they must also literally learn to speak using auditory signals that organics can understand, not a simple concept for one who has never spoken a word in their life that wasnt a direct data transfer
8703003 Oh, I do remember that. I was asking more in terms of whether they have yet to discover valuable traits in earth ponies and pegasi that cannot be replicated by synthetics.
8703011 They do have the advantage of two skilled programmers who have spoken that language, and have some of the most advanced data processing systems in the universe.
8703012 They haven't had any to poke.
8703011 Yup. That's why it's going to look like a dreadfully slow and cumbersome chore to them even after they've figured it out.
8703017
true, Jet Set and Upper Crust can construct a communications software package, but if they lack the hardware to run said package, it becomes a moot point. PONI have never had a need for a voicebox
I can’t wait for the reaction they get
8703021 On the other hoof, we're also making the assumption that ponies haven't changed that much in a few centuries. For all we know, Equestria might already have synthetics of their own. If that's the case, I wouldn't be surprised if Twilight has cybernetic implants for more efficient communication and interfacing with machinery.
Alternatively, there's always magic, depending on how much handwavium the author wants to put in this story. Cheating ponies.
8703027 Me too!
8703030 You get to play "spot what's different" when they get there.
Well, they are used to trade, really, just that it's really efficient. The main reason stuff has to be abstracted through currency is that there's disagreement on values.
So they can generate ethereal manes and tails, huh? Don't that be a riot when they make landfall!
You know, we had actually estimated objective time to be closer to 800 years since departure, forgot why though... Still, plenty of time for industrial revolution to start kicking in, right?
Keep going! ;)
8702729
They have starlifting. they can get all the materials they need from the sun.
8703826
8702729
Yup, this!
I would comment something science-y, but I can't think of anything. To bad I'm not a PONI.
Also, I am still in love with this fic.
8704683
30 years plus... 500-something years of space travel? Woof.
You know, I WAS wondering how they could visit Equus without things imploding without them. Bright fixes a lot.
Guys you need to make mouth noises how are you forgetting about this huge detail
8702562
Oh my god your avatar is adorable
And thus, in a post-scarcity, efficiency-focused world, Fashion was once again discovered.
I was re-reading this story and noticed a possible inconsistency. Previously Jet Set mentioned. "Magic was like riding a bicycle, but unfortunately I hadn't been on this one for over five hundred years"
But now they're saying they haven't been to Equestria in three hundred and fifty? That seems to be a bit off compared to previous numbers.
10586418 Grr. The first calculator I had for relativistic space flight wasn't taking some elements of time compression into account. I thought I'd caught all the errors when I published the chapters, but apparently I missed one. Fixed now! Thanks!
10586472
Glad to be able to help out!
Any chance of a sequel to this story? I'd love to see it continue. Unlikely, I know, but I can dream.
10586501 A sequel is in process