The Sparkle family are going on vacation. While family holidays are often difficult, Twilight knows this one is going to be particularly bad. Mostly because her father doesn't.
Fuuuuuuuuuck. Interesting to see how this all plays out in the end. I was half expecting Twilight to divulge the full story to Shining in the games room.
Does it bother anyone else that Shining blames himself for being raped by Chrysalis or is it just me? He treats the whole thing as a encounter he consented to, but Chrysalis hiding her identity makes it rape. Besides, I kinda thought Twilight would point out the difference.
The flashbacks really broke the pacing and tension, but it was otherwise another great chapter. However much you would wish for the characters to behave differently, it is all very believable.
Holy hell this story only gets better and better. I actually paused Fallout 4 so I could sit and read this with no distractions, that's how engaging this chapter was.
cadence can forgiving shining because he was basically roffied. night light doesnt need to forgive twilight velvet because she initiated the affair, regardless of how sorry she is. night light and twilight sparkle are still in the wrong and it needs some serious counseling. really the only victim here is shining since he knew mom cheated, was raped, and knows about his sister and dad! i dont care how strong your mental fortitude is this dude is gonna need some serious freaking help, maybe celestia can perform that mind spell out of pity.
6631833 rape victims often struggle with handling it in a reasonable way. it's part of the reason why it is important for them to seek mental attention so that they can come to terms with it in a healthy way (for instance, being able to not blame themselves for it.) it seems he hasn't even told cadence about it yet out of fear of rejection so, it just proves how poisonous he's let the matter become to him.
that's just how i look at it, anyway. touchy subject, i know.
First I added this to favs for the clop, and a couple of days ago I started to read it all and...
DAMN...
This fanfic is so intense, I just want to see how all explode in Velvet's face in the future. I don't mind if you makes me wait months for a chapter, it's worth it.
6632524 This is the most true statement. Twilight Velvet did what she did and continued it for 4 months. Shining Armor was in essence the victim of rape. And now his sister and dad are fucking. This family has all sorts of issues. And Twilight Sparkle is one hell of a sexual deviant, she was bound to have a problem either way. Just happened to have been sparked by infidelity.
One, I'm actually happy it doesn't seem to have been Shining Armor whom Velvet cheated with. That might've come across as a bit too contrived, plus the drama around him essentially having been raped (this kind of behaviour carries criminal charges!) feels much more real.
Two, Night Light really needs to have little Twily tied down again for a nice romp.
Hmmm. Well, I think that despite Twilight saying that what Nightlight and her have being over, I don't think that it'll be that easy or simple. I imagine that they'll continue their illicit affair and late night rendezvous until they're either caught. Maybe Shining will tell Velvet, because of pangs on his conscience, or perhaps because he suspects that Twilight and Nightlight are still continuing their relationship. Hell, he might do it anyways because of the heat of the moment and feeling pain and betrayal.
But damn if this story isn't great for the psychological impacts bad decisions (or at least morally and socially unacceptable ones) and how guilt plays out with the various characters. I'm immensely enjoying this story just on these aspects alone. I kind of want to see Twilight get pregnant and the whole ensuing clusterfuck that would bring about.
Thank you Grimm for this story, even if things are looking a little Grimm right now.
I was half expecting Twilight to snap and use her magic to blast Shining Armor and then rage at him. But, she 's in too much pain and loves him too much. I wonder if this will devolve into some cheating pissing contest where the family starts screwing each other and other ponies in an attempt to do harm to the others. Or maybe they'll just have a big orgy and make amends. (Both of those I doubt will happen lol)
Regardless though, this is a very well written story, it makes the romantic dynamic and trials of a secret relationship believable
Also, I would love if twilight became pregnant, I mean jeez, they've been having unprotected sex without contraceptives for most of the story, you'd think it'd happen. also, I think it'd be a nice plot point.
6641898 6642667 I think I've said it before, but I subscribe to the "can only get pregnant in heat" headcanon, so Twilight getting pregnant isn't going to feature in this story (and it's definitely heavy enough without adding that into the mix). Even if that wasn't the case, I think she'd be smart enough to use some kind of protection, magical or otherwise. There's no way she would have done what she did in Blindsided if there was even the slightest chance of her getting pregnant, after all.
I'll preface this by saying that the story has in no way made even the slightest hint in the direction that I'm looking right now. This is 100% me projecting onto the story as it stands, and if it's not where the author was planning on taking the story, nothing at all has been lost. But I gotta say, does anyone else think there could potentially be a note of something like jealousy in Shining Armor's reaction, here?
I mean, his reaction is perfectly in-keeping with what we'd expect otherwise. An act of infidelity, which he personally considers a very big deal after what happened with Chrysalis, that would be especially devastating to Twilight Velvet, whom he loves very dearly - yeah, his anger and disgust and helpless confusion are completely reasonable. But his insistence that Twilight Sparkle is a victim in all of this, a blameless innocent, and his being willing to protect her if she ends the relationship with Night Light... I don't know, it's just that it seems to put her on a pedestal, and I have to wonder why. Twilight Sparkle is, as we've got very well-established here, someone with some severely kinky sexual tastes, a serious fetish for submission, and apparently an open mind on the subject of incest. And her B.B.B.F.F. who grew up with her, was always keeping an eye on her, always looking out for her, knew all her secrets... it's not like this is the sort of thing siblings would share anyway, but you have to wonder how much he knows about his little sister's tastes.
His rage at Night Light is pretty straightforward - it comes down to "How could you do this to Twilight Velvet," and "You took advantage of Twilight Sparkle". But his feelings toward Twilight Sparkle almost seem to carry a note of, "How could you do this to ME" as well, as if she betrayed Shining Armor in the same way Night Light betrayed Twilight Velvet. And you just have to wonder at what Shining Armor thinks, on some level, if those rumours about his sister at the kink clubs of Canterlot were ever true, and if her willingness to engage in some incestuous power play goes any further...
I don't really expect anything to come of it, even if those themes ARE there. But it's just the main thought I had reading this chapter. That, and delight that the story had updated. Great stuff, Grimm. Eager to see more.
6631388 They just need to get all 5 of them together. Mom, Dad, the 2 kids, and the kid's wife. Then have a massive 5 way orgy. It will solve everything!
Shining was perfect in this. I couldn't imagine a more organic way to react to this situation. I was about to roll my eyes when he said he cheated but that situation did fit, especially since Twilight wants to see her affair as common ground as everything else. And yes, Night lost any moral high ground when he went to Ponyville. Fuck, far as I'm concerned Velvet has it now. It's one thing to cheat on your spouse, but to cheat on your spouse with your child? Nah. This chapter got me all excited to see how worse this can get. Let's break this family.
gonna be totally honest, started reading this and the story before it for the sex, still reading it for the story it's self, this thing is a freaking masterpeice
Stumbled across this on a rare browsing over the site (I have a new job kicking my ass left and right these days), and I just had to comment -- this is brilliant, just brilliant, and nothing in any of this feels beyond belief, which is a really hard thing to accomplish with this subject matter.
Seriously, following and read everything so far in one night. This is artful and well-wrought.
6767279 with twilights situation it's more of a by blood issue their father is t just cheating with a stranger but with his very own daughter. You have to remember that shining never directly justified what their mother did he simply focused on the problem at hand in fact he seems to agree on the regards of how wrong it was to cheat on some one even putting his own mistakes on that line and seems to focus more on the messed up incestial anitics of the two which in all honesty is rather good writing considering most writers simply fall to one side or the other with no thought at all as to other implications of characters pasts and intertwining mistakes. As for the hole father daughter who's in the wrong well once again the author did something rather impressive and brought up a characters lack of knowledge in that area and also how morally speaking he didn't know at first but when he found out being the older and more excperienced figure he should have put a stop to it then and there all in all I have to give it to the writer he/she honestly might not paint the prettiest picture but they definitely put a lot of thought into the characters interactions. (Aside from like the moment shining left they were just like let's fuck honestly that was probably a bit more for the clop and less on the story then again I could be braking this mindless clop fest down at to deep a level)
To the author- man I reached the end of this thing. Like I said in a previous comment you might not paint the picture to pretty, but your character interaction is a rather interesting twist (aside from a few bumps) a few obvious thing here and there but hey sometimes we just have to bite the bullet. I especially have to congratulate you on the battle of morals and taboos most authors simply shit all over that, but to actually see an author who understands that this is a deep rooted and wrong thing coupled with the secrets and betrayals of a truly world shattering thing is quite honestly refreshing again not the greatest read ever heck I'll be blunt it was meh but the deep inner storm of chaos and madness under it all is what has me impressed the idea of it is of course scandal is to say the least, but I was receding to how you actually wrote it. So that is why I have to say well done to you I might just go poke around in your page to try and find another story.
Damn. Goddamn. That was a great story. Filled with drama, tension, and lurid sex, one of the most compelling fan-fics I've ever read. You sir, should write for money. If this was a paperback, I'd buy the next installment.
Thank god it wasn't Shining that Velvet cheated with. You scared me there for a second it woulda made no sense at that point.
This shit is so heavy, my heart is sinking, my body is trembling and I'm going insane. This isn't just one bomb, it's a cluster of them and the more time it takes the more bombs are going to explode. One way or another though this family is done. Flat-out done. It was a bit hard reading past the first couple chapters due to some infuriating dialogue, but even if I'm pissed I can't deny that it's great, fantastic even. So I'm here to the finish.
Also, a few mistakes here and there but they're really light. Human auto-correct makes you breeze right through them if you're really into the story.
You could have stopped with first story and left it as a one shot but NOOOOO you had to make it longer with feels, I shed very many tears for this story, and I will probably shed even more, it's still a great story perfect balance of sex and storyline, but please try not to die before you finish this or I will bring you back to life force you to finish this then kill you again, Keep up the great work.....pretty please......with little twilycanes on top
6964950 Don't take this the wrong way, but I don't think telling someone to hurry up before they kick the bucket (and promising to use necromancy if they don't) is the best way to get a story updated. I mean, I agree with the sentiment, but to quote Spike: "Dude, that's creepy."
Man, these flashbacks are tearjerkers and heartwrenching once you comprehend their fridge brilliance. You're magnificent, Grimm. I'll see this to the end.
social tabu... but then again who decide what is allowed and what is not? things happens and as you said yourself - love is not working according to rules. It makes me wonder if the one who said "Everything is allowed in love and war" ever thought about this meaning of it. In the end it is our decision, our live our happiness our sorrow. Shy should anything stand in the way of our feelings? Why should race, gender, sexuality... even family relationship stand in the way?
so much feelings, balance between sex and story. This is what "clop should be about,no matter what subject.
It is well made and it touches sensitive topic with great care, yet it shows both sides of the coin. I'm definitely interested of how this will end
Good shit right here.
tbh came for the incest, stayed for the story.
Damn..... Shining just knows how to be cruel when he wants to.
Fuuuuuuuuuck.
Interesting to see how this all plays out in the end.
I was half expecting Twilight to divulge the full story to Shining in the games room.
Why is everybody so miserable!
They need a hug!
Great chapter as always.
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same. Story made it worth.
you make life worth living, op
Does it bother anyone else that Shining blames himself for being raped by Chrysalis or is it just me? He treats the whole thing as a encounter he consented to, but Chrysalis hiding her identity makes it rape. Besides, I kinda thought Twilight would point out the difference.
Wow, and just when I thought there was no more fecal matter to toss into the oscillating wind machine...
MORE. PLEASE.
Life just got 20% better with this! I'm excited for the next chapter, keep up the great writing!
Now I really want to know with whom Velvet cheated her husband over.
Also, awesome chapter. After the fourth chapter I hardly give a fuck about the sex (see what I did there?). It's the story as a whole I care about.
The flashbacks really broke the pacing and tension, but it was otherwise another great chapter. However much you would wish for the characters to behave differently, it is all very believable.
Daaaaaaaaaaaamn!!!! That cliffhanger!!! Damn you, Shining!!!
Holy hell this story only gets better and better. I actually paused Fallout 4 so I could sit and read this with no distractions, that's how engaging this chapter was.
cadence can forgiving shining because he was basically roffied. night light doesnt need to forgive twilight velvet because she initiated the affair, regardless of how sorry she is. night light and twilight sparkle are still in the wrong and it needs some serious counseling. really the only victim here is shining since he knew mom cheated, was raped, and knows about his sister and dad! i dont care how strong your mental fortitude is this dude is gonna need some serious freaking help, maybe celestia can perform that mind spell out of pity.
6631833 rape victims often struggle with handling it in a reasonable way. it's part of the reason why it is important for them to seek mental attention so that they can come to terms with it in a healthy way (for instance, being able to not blame themselves for it.) it seems he hasn't even told cadence about it yet out of fear of rejection so, it just proves how poisonous he's let the matter become to him.
that's just how i look at it, anyway. touchy subject, i know.
First I added this to favs for the clop, and a couple of days ago I started to read it all and...
DAMN...
This fanfic is so intense, I just want to see how all explode in Velvet's face in the future. I don't mind if you makes me wait months for a chapter, it's worth it.
PD: I skip the flashbacks, sorry.
Commence read.
Well.
The flashbacks threw me off for a moment.
Still an intense situation.
No, Damn you armor!
I fucking love this story.
6632524 This is the most true statement. Twilight Velvet did what she did and continued it for 4 months. Shining Armor was in essence the victim of rape. And now his sister and dad are fucking. This family has all sorts of issues. And Twilight Sparkle is one hell of a sexual deviant, she was bound to have a problem either way. Just happened to have been sparked by infidelity.
Two things.
One, I'm actually happy it doesn't seem to have been Shining Armor whom Velvet cheated with. That might've come across as a bit too contrived, plus the drama around him essentially having been raped (this kind of behaviour carries criminal charges!) feels much more real.
Two, Night Light really needs to have little Twily tied down again for a nice romp.
Two things.
1) We love you, Grimm.
2) I wonder how they plan to resolve this after telling Velvet. My money is on Night Light and Twilight eloping.
Out of curiosity, how much older is night light than twilight? 20 years around?
Ugh the intensity! Shining Armor is right, but this is gonna fall apart in the most spectacular way possible, isn't it?
Hmmm. Well, I think that despite Twilight saying that what Nightlight and her have being over, I don't think that it'll be that easy or simple. I imagine that they'll continue their illicit affair and late night rendezvous until they're either caught. Maybe Shining will tell Velvet, because of pangs on his conscience, or perhaps because he suspects that Twilight and Nightlight are still continuing their relationship. Hell, he might do it anyways because of the heat of the moment and feeling pain and betrayal.
But damn if this story isn't great for the psychological impacts bad decisions (or at least morally and socially unacceptable ones) and how guilt plays out with the various characters. I'm immensely enjoying this story just on these aspects alone. I kind of want to see Twilight get pregnant and the whole ensuing clusterfuck that would bring about.
Thank you Grimm for this story, even if things are looking a little Grimm right now.
I was half expecting Twilight to snap and use her magic to blast Shining Armor and then rage at him. But, she 's in too much pain and loves him too much. I wonder if this will devolve into some cheating pissing contest where the family starts screwing each other and other ponies in an attempt to do harm to the others. Or maybe they'll just have a big orgy and make amends. (Both of those I doubt will happen lol)
Regardless though, this is a very well written story, it makes the romantic dynamic and trials of a secret relationship believable
Also, I would love if twilight became pregnant, I mean jeez, they've been having unprotected sex without contraceptives for most of the story, you'd think it'd happen. also, I think it'd be a nice plot point.
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I think I've said it before, but I subscribe to the "can only get pregnant in heat" headcanon, so Twilight getting pregnant isn't going to feature in this story (and it's definitely heavy enough without adding that into the mix). Even if that wasn't the case, I think she'd be smart enough to use some kind of protection, magical or otherwise. There's no way she would have done what she did in Blindsided if there was even the slightest chance of her getting pregnant, after all.
6642763 Ah, oh well, was a nice thought. Still enjoy the story regardless lol
I'll preface this by saying that the story has in no way made even the slightest hint in the direction that I'm looking right now. This is 100% me projecting onto the story as it stands, and if it's not where the author was planning on taking the story, nothing at all has been lost. But I gotta say, does anyone else think there could potentially be a note of something like jealousy in Shining Armor's reaction, here?
I mean, his reaction is perfectly in-keeping with what we'd expect otherwise. An act of infidelity, which he personally considers a very big deal after what happened with Chrysalis, that would be especially devastating to Twilight Velvet, whom he loves very dearly - yeah, his anger and disgust and helpless confusion are completely reasonable. But his insistence that Twilight Sparkle is a victim in all of this, a blameless innocent, and his being willing to protect her if she ends the relationship with Night Light... I don't know, it's just that it seems to put her on a pedestal, and I have to wonder why. Twilight Sparkle is, as we've got very well-established here, someone with some severely kinky sexual tastes, a serious fetish for submission, and apparently an open mind on the subject of incest. And her B.B.B.F.F. who grew up with her, was always keeping an eye on her, always looking out for her, knew all her secrets... it's not like this is the sort of thing siblings would share anyway, but you have to wonder how much he knows about his little sister's tastes.
His rage at Night Light is pretty straightforward - it comes down to "How could you do this to Twilight Velvet," and "You took advantage of Twilight Sparkle". But his feelings toward Twilight Sparkle almost seem to carry a note of, "How could you do this to ME" as well, as if she betrayed Shining Armor in the same way Night Light betrayed Twilight Velvet. And you just have to wonder at what Shining Armor thinks, on some level, if those rumours about his sister at the kink clubs of Canterlot were ever true, and if her willingness to engage in some incestuous power play goes any further...
I don't really expect anything to come of it, even if those themes ARE there. But it's just the main thought I had reading this chapter. That, and delight that the story had updated. Great stuff, Grimm. Eager to see more.
6631388 They just need to get all 5 of them together. Mom, Dad, the 2 kids, and the kid's wife. Then have a massive 5 way orgy. It will solve everything!
That damned Cliffhanger, Grimm. Y U do dis to us?
And I feel myself died inside a little at the ending..
Seriously want to see more even if there's no guarantee of a happy ending.
Your drama. It is delicious to me.
Shining was perfect in this. I couldn't imagine a more organic way to react to this situation. I was about to roll my eyes when he said he cheated but that situation did fit, especially since Twilight wants to see her affair as common ground as everything else. And yes, Night lost any moral high ground when he went to Ponyville. Fuck, far as I'm concerned Velvet has it now. It's one thing to cheat on your spouse, but to cheat on your spouse with your child? Nah. This chapter got me all excited to see how worse this can get. Let's break this family.
gonna be totally honest, started reading this and the story before it for the sex, still reading it for the story it's self, this thing is a freaking masterpeice
The sex is unimportant, the story is just good. And there all in the wrong here in one way or another.
i sure hope she doesnt stop im blaming shining for this if it does
Well, there goes my theory. This was better. By far. This whole story is solid gold.
You sir, have far fewer followers than you deserve!
Stumbled across this on a rare browsing over the site (I have a new job kicking my ass left and right these days), and I just had to comment -- this is brilliant, just brilliant, and nothing in any of this feels beyond belief, which is a really hard thing to accomplish with this subject matter.
Seriously, following and read everything so far in one night. This is artful and well-wrought.
Armor is acting like a emotional wuzz.
Side with mom cuz she betrayed him and husband first? Suuuuree
She is so sooorrry.
I bet second time she gets dick, she'll not admit it that fast.
Father has relationship with daughter?
Send him to tartarus!
Daughter says was her idea?
Send him to tartarus and let her promise to never do it again!
...
Shining needs to get drawn to the little sex dungoen of Chrysalis, lets see how he feels after that.
You know what? At this point I would be suspecious of Shining having done his mother as well at least one time.
6767279 with twilights situation it's more of a by blood issue their father is t just cheating with a stranger but with his very own daughter. You have to remember that shining never directly justified what their mother did he simply focused on the problem at hand in fact he seems to agree on the regards of how wrong it was to cheat on some one even putting his own mistakes on that line and seems to focus more on the messed up incestial anitics of the two which in all honesty is rather good writing considering most writers simply fall to one side or the other with no thought at all as to other implications of characters pasts and intertwining mistakes. As for the hole father daughter who's in the wrong well once again the author did something rather impressive and brought up a characters lack of knowledge in that area and also how morally speaking he didn't know at first but when he found out being the older and more excperienced figure he should have put a stop to it then and there all in all I have to give it to the writer he/she honestly might not paint the prettiest picture but they definitely put a lot of thought into the characters interactions. (Aside from like the moment shining left they were just like let's fuck honestly that was probably a bit more for the clop and less on the story then again I could be braking this mindless clop fest down at to deep a level)
To the author- man I reached the end of this thing. Like I said in a previous comment you might not paint the picture to pretty, but your character interaction is a rather interesting twist (aside from a few bumps) a few obvious thing here and there but hey sometimes we just have to bite the bullet. I especially have to congratulate you on the battle of morals and taboos most authors simply shit all over that, but to actually see an author who understands that this is a deep rooted and wrong thing coupled with the secrets and betrayals of a truly world shattering thing is quite honestly refreshing again not the greatest read ever heck I'll be blunt it was meh but the deep inner storm of chaos and madness under it all is what has me impressed the idea of it is of course scandal is to say the least, but I was receding to how you actually wrote it. So that is why I have to say well done to you I might just go poke around in your page to try and find another story.
Damn.
Goddamn.
That was a great story. Filled with drama, tension, and lurid sex, one of the most compelling fan-fics I've ever read. You sir, should write for money. If this was a paperback, I'd buy the next installment.
Thank god it wasn't Shining that Velvet cheated with. You scared me there for a second it woulda made no sense at that point.
This shit is so heavy, my heart is sinking, my body is trembling and I'm going insane. This isn't just one bomb, it's a cluster of them and the more time it takes the more bombs are going to explode. One way or another though this family is done. Flat-out done. It was a bit hard reading past the first couple chapters due to some infuriating dialogue, but even if I'm pissed I can't deny that it's great, fantastic even. So I'm here to the finish.
Also, a few mistakes here and there but they're really light. Human auto-correct makes you breeze right through them if you're really into the story.
I've been waiting and waiting for an update for this amazing story, I can't wait for the next chapter ????
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Well, good things come to those who wait!
...eventually.
You could have stopped with first story and left it as a one shot but NOOOOO you had to make it longer with feels, I shed very many tears for this story, and I will probably shed even more, it's still a great story perfect balance of sex and storyline, but please try not to die before you finish this or I will bring you back to life force you to finish this then kill you again,
Keep up the great work.....pretty please......with little twilycanes on top
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Don't take this the wrong way, but I don't think telling someone to hurry up before they kick the bucket (and promising to use necromancy if they don't) is the best way to get a story updated.
I mean, I agree with the sentiment, but to quote Spike: "Dude, that's creepy."
Man, these flashbacks are tearjerkers and heartwrenching once you comprehend their fridge brilliance. You're magnificent, Grimm. I'll see this to the end.
6963112 Is it close of coming out anytime soon?
social tabu...
but then again who decide what is allowed and what is not?
things happens and as you said yourself - love is not working according to rules.
It makes me wonder if the one who said "Everything is allowed in love and war" ever thought about this meaning of it.
In the end it is our decision, our live our happiness our sorrow. Shy should anything stand in the way of our feelings?
Why should race, gender, sexuality... even family relationship stand in the way?
so much feelings, balance between sex and story. This is what "clop should be about,no matter what subject.
It is well made and it touches sensitive topic with great care, yet it shows both sides of the coin.
I'm definitely interested of how this will end
I guess it's back to fuck den for Twilight. Man this ending.