Aug
27th
2019
Very Concerned. · 12:45pm Aug 27th, 2019
Sometimes, I see or hear something, and I step away to think about it before responding.
This was one of those times.
Did... did I just see propaganda on FiMFiction that equated anti-fascism with Nazism? 
Did I just see a pro-Master Race group, insisting that the “lesser races” in its stories (earth ponies and pegasi) be subjected to the torture and tyranny that their “inferior genes” deserve? 
I’m still processing.
What. The. Hell. 
Where?
I dunno about here, but I saw a good discussion elsewhere about why someone might equate the two and why they would be terribly wrong. :B
you talking about this? or something else?
The great thing about the pony fandom is that it brings together people from all walks of life.
A problem with the pony fandom is that it brings together people from all walks of life.
You think that's concerning? There's a whole fanbase of the show dedicated to horse NatSoc. What started as an April Fools day prank merging /pol/ and /mlp/ has become a real thing with it's own dedicated chan sites ie mlpol.
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And let we are powerless to stop it, this site is the best way to escape the real world and build something new with our imagination, like all good things the bad will follow like the ideology of old, zealous and the worse kind of bad the murky depth of soul-eating politics.
We all just need to weather the storm and it will pass eventually and it will be afoot note in the history of this site like any other and we all can laugh it up on how stupid and silly we all our.
Dunno, depends on if it was actually talking about anti-fascism or socialism/communism that usually gets called anti-fascism.
Calling Socialism/communism anti-fascist is like calling fascism anti-communist. Its true but ignores that the ideology is pretty much anti lots of else that isnt part of the ideology.
A 15 years old fleeing into the woods and being forced to join the partisans because he said the wrong thing at scool was an anti-fascist.
Despite never joining or supporting the communist regime that took over after that and did worse then the fascist regime did, mostly because it ruled for decades compared to a few years.
One was crushed and the other remained to do similar things.
In the real world, I'm constantly baffled that a group known for dressing in black masks, beating up anybody who stands up to them, burning things in the street, and generally violently opposing free speech, has the gall to call themselves anti-fascists. I prefer my ponies flawed but progressing.
There's a very consistent push from the American far right to paint antifa as the "real threat", ignoring the statistics about which side is the more dangerous and consistently violent (hint: it's the far right), and that's been taken up by the rest of American right, including right-leaning but reasonable people like Georg, above.
Pretty sure that anti-fascist is the exact opposite of Nazi.
Hell, I don't know why anyone even uses the term "anti-fascist", shouldn't being opposed to fascism be the default state of being?
Hi, anti-fascist here. Happy to tell people who think we’re the same as people who want to mass murder minorities, like 5112501 here, to fuck entirely off into the sun.
Nazi horses fuck off!
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Uhhhhhhh we beat up fascists and white supremacists. I dunno where you’re getting your news from.
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People like Andy Ngo consistently use a variety of propaganda methods to accomplish this.
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I bet you think Communism has killed 100 million people, don’t you.
Sorry you're just learning this now. The fandom is riddled with actual Nazis, let alone merely garden-variety fascists. I advise making liberal use of the Block feature.
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Furthermore, I absolutely don’t believe in unconditional free speech. Hate speech should be banned and punished.
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Dont know the actual number, but yeah at least in the tens of millions. My own country's communist history certainly wasnt as bad as china or russia or the red khmers. But even they did have their murders and what not.
i grew up on stories of actual fascism, like the 15 year old boy who had to flee because he said one wrong thing in school. That was my grandfather. Wasnt able to go home for years until the war ended. Not comfortably role play behind a screen like you.
Or my greatuncle being murdered by a soldier in broad daylight for no reason other then that we slavs are untermench to them.
But also stories of the communist regime, my fathers cousin or such being imprisonet for years in one of the many purges, despite being a loyal mid rank party member who didnt do anything except porbably piss someone more powerful off if even that, neighbors "dissapearing" and no one dared even ask about them since they saw the secret police come for them. Or the teachers regulsry asking the children about what their parents talk about at home in hopes of the children revealing anything "antistate".
Larpers like you would have been either killed off long ago, or at best imprisoned for social parasitism. Let alone be allowed to talk like you do and constantly encourge violence. Maybe for a while if the state deemd you useful, but eventually your masters would put you down since you would become more of a problem then useful.
So ignorant "antifa" wannabes like you are never people i can take seriously, and for someone who believes hate speech should be punished you spout a lot of it constantly. Of course your type believs that no matter what you do you can never be wrong and your own laws can never posibly turned against you and your cause. If i was evil i would hope you get your "utopia" and see for yourself what it is like. But i honestly dont want to wish that stuff on anyone.
So enjoy your privileded life, if you do get your wish in the end, it will be your own doing. I hope for your sake you never do and if you have kids they neither.
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It sounds like you have had a bad run in with authoritarian state capitalism. True democratic socialism upholds freedom for everyone, as long as they aren’t dickwads.
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Also, while there obviously were abuses and mistakes, communist countries have on the whole had better human rights that America during the equivalent time period. Even today, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea has better human rights than America. And yes I will provide sources for that if you like.
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And even if your wildly inflated numbers are correct (they aren’t), capitalism kills more people every five years than communism ever has. i.redd.it/wh75hilyrtgy.jpg
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And it doesnt exist because you require authoritarians to kill of everyone you disagree with as you see those as not only dicwads but nazis or any other buzzword that comes to your mind. As you would gladly have me killed without knowing shit about me knowing you and your stance on everyone who disagrees with you being a nazi, it being the first proclamation you made about me here.
And now im a "poor lost soul who just doesnt know better" or some other nonsense, i wish we had capitalism back then, then our countries wouldnt be 2nd world at best despite the close proximity to the west and an at least somewhat similar economic situation before WW2 and communist takeover.
The issue with your dream goal is the authoritarianism, the people who spend years killing off others and consolidating their power wont just go "okay, we did enough, now its time to stop" and make your utopia a reality.
They will continue consolidating power and take care of anyone in their way, what will eventually be malcontents like you when they realize that they have been played. You can call it "not true socialism" or whatever, but if its the only outcome that happens again and again after the "glorious revolution" or any other violent takeover, then at what try does it overtake the outcome that never happens?
Its the most likely if not the only one you will ever see as long as the step in between "not socialism" and "true socialism" requires authoritarians to kill of or otherwise deal with anyone whos deemed stuff like "enemy of the revolution" or any other fancy name given to it. And the ones who decide it are the ruling party whos interest is to keep their power.
Anyone who might actually care about the well being of the people as a whole and try to use the regimes power for their good always had a hard time surviving among such people.
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The group was called “All Hail Unicorns,” which now seems to be mercifully missing.
The image that I saw was on someone’s user page. Rather than point people at them, here is a link to what I believe is the original.
I had not meant to start a bonfire, but at least everyone seems to be trying to remain civil in the face of various emotions and convictions running high.
And for that much, at least, I thank you all.