Often a single day, a single event can change our lives forever. But even when that event is over, life will find a new equilibrium of sorts. It’s just a matter of accepting this new ‘normal’.
7125022 There wasn't any incest joke. The joke was Twi/Twilight not wanting to hear about their brother and sister-in-law's bedroom habits. If you saw incest there that's your subconscious putting it there hehe.
You know, for someone who supposedly loves Twi, Rainbow(the human one) seems to think more about her needs than Twi's comfort or what Twi wants. If she wants something and Twi doesn't, keep pushing till Twi caves or finds some way to make Twi do what she wants.
Rainbow shrugged. “Okay, okay, it’s fine, we’ll wait until you’re ready.” Or something happens to those clothes.
Case in point. Twi's comfort means nothing to her, if it did she wouldn't keep pushing the issue and forcing he out of her comfort zone.
It just rubs me the wrong way and I hope karma, or something, comes and bites her ass and makes her realize how much of a dick she's being. Because that can't be healthy for a relationship.
I don't think Luna's speech is like that anymore. No, I'm sure it isn't. Also, Rainbow needs to learn to have others' needs above hers. Especially Twi's, for obvious reasons.
7126566 That is tied to something that bugs me. While we see Twi and Rainbow, the humans, love each other very much, and can have fun at times, a LOT of the time there is Drama, problems, arguements, or minipulation by Rainbow to get something from Twi that Twi doesn't want to give her.
And the Pony versions see all this, especially Twilight, and decides "Oh wow! That's awesome! Lets have a relationship JUST like that. Full of Fighting, problems, Drama, and Rainbow screwing things up all the time to get what she wants. That's the ideal relationship!"
The idea behind the story is hot. Self on self foursome. But the relationship itself isn't good. it isn't healthy. I feel the only reason at all that the pony versions are even into themselves, is because the Human versions are and they are copying them 100% with no change. It's the one thing that irks me about this story.
7127008 And it never was like that. Luna's real speech pattern is grammatically correct, except for one instance where she forgets how to conjugate in a moment of shock (what she should have said to Pipsqueak at the end of Luna Eclipsed was "Art thou saying thou wishest to be frightened").
Luna blushed. “Thou are a horrible liar, Tia. But we’d be honored.” She hugged her sister.
Thou art a horrible liar, for example. At least one sentence was so broken that I can't find any way to fix it without rearranging the entire sentence.
That said, yes, Luna usually does use modern grammar now and if you don't know how to write in archaic grammar, you really should just stick to contemporary usage.
7126566 Ok one twi has always been a recluse and if the track record from twilight is anything to go by she is afraid trying such things. Yes rainbow is pushing her out of her comfort zone but if you are ever to try anything new and legit say you dont like it then you need to get uncomfortable and try it. Rainbow understands this as well as what twi has liked before so she intends to give the metaphorical push twi needs to do something she believes twi would enjoy.
Um no they also see the strong love their human counterparts have. Yes they fight but how many true coupled do you know that dont?
I believe the saying is "you dont fall in love you rise to it" that means if there is a relationship you want to pursue then it must be worked at. They will fight they will have bumps and scrapes and sometimes they will hate each other but at the end if they work passed their differences they will come out stronger for it.
Um no they also see the strong love their human counterparts have. Yes they fight but how many true coupled do you know that dont?
But that's just it. We, and thus the ponies, have seen that the love isn't THAT strong. Honestly, it seems far less like love, and more like... How to explain... Like Mental illness of some kind.
When Twi thought Rainbow actually left her forever, she broke instantly and completely. And looking at the rest of their relationship, It seems like Rainbow is in it because no one else would ever stand to put up with her shit at all, and Twi is with her because she is emotionally bound to Rainbow and 'needs' her with Rainbow knowing this. Because of this, Rainbow does whatever she wants, without care, because she knows Twi is soo emotionally attached to her, Twi would NEVER leave her, and would make up any excuse to keep the relationship. This is basically an abusive relationship. And Twi broke down when she thought she lost Rainbow, something a normal person in a normal relationship would NOT do.
As for that last part, I HATE that excuse and explanation. 'Fight' is too broad, and the statement doesn't go into it. People in a relationship do fight, not everyone is perfect or compatible and living together can bring up problems. But in a relationship, especially a long one or a healthy one, Fights aren't that often or that big!
After all, a relationship is a 2 way street, BOTH have to work together for it to last. But in Rainbow and Twi, Twi has to Sacrifice a lot, and put up with a LOT of Rainbow's shit, and Rainbow doesn't have to do much other than just promise not to leave. That's not a two way relationship. I mean look at Dash and Twilight, the ponies. If you looked at what their 'sex' life has been so far... It's Rainbow Molesting Twilight, and then 'helping/raping' Twilight in her Heat when she is at her most weakest and desperate, and cause of it Twilight is now emotionally attached to Dash because Dash was the only one there to help her in that very special time. If ANYPONY ELSE was there to take care of Twilight's needs, such as any other of Twilight's friends, I honestly believe Twilight would have attached to them instead of Rainbow. It was just 'luck' that Rainbow was there to help. In fact, if Rainbow DIDN'T molest Twilight first, before the heat was there, and the heat was Twilight's first time, The entire situation would probably be different as Rainbow WOULD have taken advantage of Twilight's state of mind and indeed raped her.
You stare at the relationship part of this story/drama? And sorry to say but it isn't good. It's hot, and it's fun to read, but it is NOT healthy, and NOT a normal relationship. And Twilight and Dash's relationship is a lot worse, as the only real 'foundation' that is hammered into their heads and ours all the time, is that the Human versions are in that relationship, so it must work and must be good for them. If Twi and Rainbow weren't together, Twilight and Dash would probably never have been together. A LOT of manipulation went into their relationship. If you can not see that, and that their relationship is a healthy one, then you need to recheck your morals and how you view the world.
7133718 Ok a few things one no the heat thing does not equal rape in any sense as it was blatantly clear that she was suffering without any kind relief. Two no its not a normal relationship twilight and dash caught a glimpse of what COULD be and decided to give those feelings no matter how minute a chance. And yes I actually agree Rainbow is being manipulative in regards to her and twi, but look at Twilight and dash. Dash while is still forward in her advances is not on the level of rainbow you know like a starting out couple testing the waters seeing what her partner is comfortable with and trying to find a middle that either twilight will rise to or dash lower to. Thats what happens with relationships. Another thing Rainbow is sacrificing because clearly she is more of the i guess sexual deviant cuz I honestly don't know what else to call her aside from slut. Think of it this way Rainbow has taken place the stereo typical bad boyfriend sleeping around and forcing carnal desires to new heights while being completely idiotic and insensitive to her girlfriends feelings. She has had to change those aspects of her personality to stay with Twi. And another thing YES it COULD have been anyone twilight formed a bond with during her heat but it wasn't. Seriously when it comes to these ship fics there are far worse choices when it comes to starting the relationship. And as far as i can tell this one has been two ponies who decided to give a relationship a TRY further down the line they could very well separate.
As for the fights you realize this is a drama and a work of fiction yes? kinda par for the course that these things happen often in these stories to keep the readers interested. Honestly if you were looking for realism you shouldn't be reading about ponies going into other dimensions and finding love it's just bound to be screwy.
And one last note it's love it is a mental illness.
Yes rainbow is pushing her out of her comfort zone but if you are ever to try anything new and legit say you dont like it then you need to get uncomfortable and try it. Rainbow understands this as well as what twi has liked before so she intends to give the metaphorical push twi needs to do something she believes twi would enjoy.
Hi, introvert here, much like Twi. Yes, sometimes one should step outside of their comfort zone, but there is a difference between 'Hey this is a thing I would like us to try' and nudging them that way, putting the idea in their min and letting them come around to it on their own, and going 'This is something I want us to do' and more or less forcibly making them do something by giving them no choice. That is literally the fastest way to make someone like that uncomfortable and never want to try it again.
In this case, talking about walking around in their birthday suits. Twi is clearly nervous, but not fully against the idea while Rainbow is all gung-ho about it. Rainbow is just impatient, rather than letting Twi decide to go in the buff on her own terms, she's literally contemplating ruining Twi's clothes (in some way) to force her to do what she wants. That is not ok at all. Rainbow wants, so Rainbow gets. And it's not the first time Rainbow has decided she wanted to do/try something, Twi said no and Rainbow kept pushing until she caved rather than letting Twi have a chance to think about it and go 'hey, I kinda of want to try this' on her own terms. Or hell, easing her into it, instead of suggesting they instantly drop all the clothes, suggest they just drop the tops. She could try that but no, can't have that.
Not to mention her utter disregard for Twi's interests and how she keep trying to derail the history lesson because she found it boring and wanted sex instead(does she not have an off switch? it seems like she's horny 24/7) despite the fact that this was something that Twi wanted and made clear of. Even when Twi tried to tell her 'later' she wouldn't stop. Which is frankly, really uncomfortable to read.
7127291 The pony versions at least seem to be more, sane/healthy/stable, in their relationship in comparisons. Especially on Dash's side. I prefer their interactions than the human ones because they at least seem to understand and respect each others boundaries. Seriously, I think Rainbow needs to see someone about her sex obsession because that can't be normal.
7135417 I agree rainbow is overly pushy but i think its that over the edge push that twi and by extension twilight needs. Because i think twilight is the type that while she may enjoy something new she still wouldnt try it no matter how hard you tried to convince her. I mean just at her check list ocd, shes the orderly routine type to the 3rd degree. Not to mention her unhealthy biased toward sex in general ( talkin past twi if her beliefs were the same as twilights anyway) if twilight was anything to by she almost denied its existance or demonized it. In her case she needs and extra shove not a gental nudge.
Growing up we look to our parants, friends, family and teachers to show us what is moraly acceptable. Take my battle with such when i was growing up my family didnt allow me or my brother to fight at all period. It was just something that was not talked about and was punished for and not having many friends that were interested in such further lessened any inclination to the subject. But then i got jumped one night after work (and got my ass handed to me) after that i went took up Haganah (israli self defense) and now you get me away from a bag unless its a sparing match. I absolutely love it even when im losing a match i still enjoy it. So in other words if i hadnt got jumped i might never have found that side of myself.
But the point im trying to make is twi and twilight need that extra shove into the deep end to progress. Is rainbow push absolutely and should cut back since the gate is already open so to speak. That may even come up later as a character poont for rainbow to finaly figure out she shouldnt push certain things.
7130121 Here here! It's not like this story has a "romance" tag or anything like that, or was a sequel to a previous romance and clop story that had the same damn thing... oh wait...
Yeah, you may have some kinky fantasies, but don't joke about incest Rainbow.
7125022
Who ever said she was joking?
Even Celestia's being dragged into the perversion now? Oh poor, poor Twilight. I have a feeling that you haven't seen anything yet.
7125022 Haven't you heard the news? Princest is Wincest.
a vary good chapter , and a chance of a little fun the Celestia and shining hum vary interesting.
7125022 There wasn't any incest joke. The joke was Twi/Twilight not wanting to hear about their brother and sister-in-law's bedroom habits. If you saw incest there that's your subconscious putting it there hehe.
You know, for someone who supposedly loves Twi, Rainbow(the human one) seems to think more about her needs than Twi's comfort or what Twi wants. If she wants something and Twi doesn't, keep pushing till Twi caves or finds some way to make Twi do what she wants.
Case in point. Twi's comfort means nothing to her, if it did she wouldn't keep pushing the issue and forcing he out of her comfort zone.
It just rubs me the wrong way and I hope karma, or something, comes and bites her ass and makes her realize how much of a dick she's being. Because that can't be healthy for a relationship.
I don't think Luna's speech is like that anymore. No, I'm sure it isn't.
Also, Rainbow needs to learn to have others' needs above hers. Especially Twi's, for obvious reasons.
Other then that, I am loving this to bits.
7126566 That is tied to something that bugs me. While we see Twi and Rainbow, the humans, love each other very much, and can have fun at times, a LOT of the time there is Drama, problems, arguements, or minipulation by Rainbow to get something from Twi that Twi doesn't want to give her.
And the Pony versions see all this, especially Twilight, and decides "Oh wow! That's awesome! Lets have a relationship JUST like that. Full of Fighting, problems, Drama, and Rainbow screwing things up all the time to get what she wants. That's the ideal relationship!"
The idea behind the story is hot. Self on self foursome. But the relationship itself isn't good. it isn't healthy. I feel the only reason at all that the pony versions are even into themselves, is because the Human versions are and they are copying them 100% with no change. It's the one thing that irks me about this story.
7127008
And it never was like that. Luna's real speech pattern is grammatically correct, except for one instance where she forgets how to conjugate in a moment of shock (what she should have said to Pipsqueak at the end of Luna Eclipsed was "Art thou saying thou wishest to be frightened").
Thou art a horrible liar, for example. At least one sentence was so broken that I can't find any way to fix it without rearranging the entire sentence.
That said, yes, Luna usually does use modern grammar now and if you don't know how to write in archaic grammar, you really should just stick to contemporary usage.
Interesting idea, if the bonds of friendship were weakened by stronger bonds of love...
Keep going! ;)
Became
I'm pretty sure you just need a comma after gone, not a period.
7127487
Yeah.
next please
7126566
Ok one twi has always been a recluse and if the track record from twilight is anything to go by she is afraid trying such things. Yes rainbow is pushing her out of her comfort zone but if you are ever to try anything new and legit say you dont like it then you need to get uncomfortable and try it. Rainbow understands this as well as what twi has liked before so she intends to give the metaphorical push twi needs to do something she believes twi would enjoy.
7127291
Um no they also see the strong love their human counterparts have. Yes they fight but how many true coupled do you know that dont?
I believe the saying is "you dont fall in love you rise to it" that means if there is a relationship you want to pursue then it must be worked at. They will fight they will have bumps and scrapes and sometimes they will hate each other but at the end if they work passed their differences they will come out stronger for it.
That was a great chapter. It was very cute and nicely paced I can't wait for dessert though I WANT MOAR SOON! If that is alright with you.
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But that's just it. We, and thus the ponies, have seen that the love isn't THAT strong. Honestly, it seems far less like love, and more like... How to explain... Like Mental illness of some kind.
When Twi thought Rainbow actually left her forever, she broke instantly and completely. And looking at the rest of their relationship, It seems like Rainbow is in it because no one else would ever stand to put up with her shit at all, and Twi is with her because she is emotionally bound to Rainbow and 'needs' her with Rainbow knowing this. Because of this, Rainbow does whatever she wants, without care, because she knows Twi is soo emotionally attached to her, Twi would NEVER leave her, and would make up any excuse to keep the relationship. This is basically an abusive relationship. And Twi broke down when she thought she lost Rainbow, something a normal person in a normal relationship would NOT do.
As for that last part, I HATE that excuse and explanation. 'Fight' is too broad, and the statement doesn't go into it. People in a relationship do fight, not everyone is perfect or compatible and living together can bring up problems. But in a relationship, especially a long one or a healthy one, Fights aren't that often or that big!
After all, a relationship is a 2 way street, BOTH have to work together for it to last. But in Rainbow and Twi, Twi has to Sacrifice a lot, and put up with a LOT of Rainbow's shit, and Rainbow doesn't have to do much other than just promise not to leave. That's not a two way relationship. I mean look at Dash and Twilight, the ponies. If you looked at what their 'sex' life has been so far... It's Rainbow Molesting Twilight, and then 'helping/raping' Twilight in her Heat when she is at her most weakest and desperate, and cause of it Twilight is now emotionally attached to Dash because Dash was the only one there to help her in that very special time. If ANYPONY ELSE was there to take care of Twilight's needs, such as any other of Twilight's friends, I honestly believe Twilight would have attached to them instead of Rainbow. It was just 'luck' that Rainbow was there to help. In fact, if Rainbow DIDN'T molest Twilight first, before the heat was there, and the heat was Twilight's first time, The entire situation would probably be different as Rainbow WOULD have taken advantage of Twilight's state of mind and indeed raped her.
You stare at the relationship part of this story/drama? And sorry to say but it isn't good. It's hot, and it's fun to read, but it is NOT healthy, and NOT a normal relationship. And Twilight and Dash's relationship is a lot worse, as the only real 'foundation' that is hammered into their heads and ours all the time, is that the Human versions are in that relationship, so it must work and must be good for them. If Twi and Rainbow weren't together, Twilight and Dash would probably never have been together. A LOT of manipulation went into their relationship. If you can not see that, and that their relationship is a healthy one, then you need to recheck your morals and how you view the world.
7133718
Ok a few things one no the heat thing does not equal rape in any sense as it was blatantly clear that she was suffering without any kind relief. Two no its not a normal relationship twilight and dash caught a glimpse of what COULD be and decided to give those feelings no matter how minute a chance. And yes I actually agree Rainbow is being manipulative in regards to her and twi, but look at Twilight and dash. Dash while is still forward in her advances is not on the level of rainbow you know like a starting out couple testing the waters seeing what her partner is comfortable with and trying to find a middle that either twilight will rise to or dash lower to. Thats what happens with relationships. Another thing Rainbow is sacrificing because clearly she is more of the i guess sexual deviant cuz I honestly don't know what else to call her aside from slut. Think of it this way Rainbow has taken place the stereo typical bad boyfriend sleeping around and forcing carnal desires to new heights while being completely idiotic and insensitive to her girlfriends feelings. She has had to change those aspects of her personality to stay with Twi. And another thing YES it COULD have been anyone twilight formed a bond with during her heat but it wasn't. Seriously when it comes to these ship fics there are far worse choices when it comes to starting the relationship. And as far as i can tell this one has been two ponies who decided to give a relationship a TRY further down the line they could very well separate.
As for the fights you realize this is a drama and a work of fiction yes? kinda par for the course that these things happen often in these stories to keep the readers interested. Honestly if you were looking for realism you shouldn't be reading about ponies going into other dimensions and finding love it's just bound to be screwy.
And one last note it's love it is a mental illness.
7133242
Hi, introvert here, much like Twi. Yes, sometimes one should step outside of their comfort zone, but there is a difference between 'Hey this is a thing I would like us to try' and nudging them that way, putting the idea in their min and letting them come around to it on their own, and going 'This is something I want us to do' and more or less forcibly making them do something by giving them no choice.
That is literally the fastest way to make someone like that uncomfortable and never want to try it again.
In this case, talking about walking around in their birthday suits. Twi is clearly nervous, but not fully against the idea while Rainbow is all gung-ho about it. Rainbow is just impatient, rather than letting Twi decide to go in the buff on her own terms, she's literally contemplating ruining Twi's clothes (in some way) to force her to do what she wants. That is not ok at all. Rainbow wants, so Rainbow gets.
And it's not the first time Rainbow has decided she wanted to do/try something, Twi said no and Rainbow kept pushing until she caved rather than letting Twi have a chance to think about it and go 'hey, I kinda of want to try this' on her own terms. Or hell, easing her into it, instead of suggesting they instantly drop all the clothes, suggest they just drop the tops. She could try that but no, can't have that.
Not to mention her utter disregard for Twi's interests and how she keep trying to derail the history lesson because she found it boring and wanted sex instead(does she not have an off switch? it seems like she's horny 24/7) despite the fact that this was something that Twi wanted and made clear of. Even when Twi tried to tell her 'later' she wouldn't stop.
Which is frankly, really uncomfortable to read.
7127291
The pony versions at least seem to be more, sane/healthy/stable, in their relationship in comparisons. Especially on Dash's side. I prefer their interactions than the human ones because they at least seem to understand and respect each others boundaries.
Seriously, I think Rainbow needs to see someone about her sex obsession because that can't be normal.
7135417
I agree rainbow is overly pushy but i think its that over the edge push that twi and by extension twilight needs. Because i think twilight is the type that while she may enjoy something new she still wouldnt try it no matter how hard you tried to convince her. I mean just at her check list ocd, shes the orderly routine type to the 3rd degree. Not to mention her unhealthy biased toward sex in general ( talkin past twi if her beliefs were the same as twilights anyway) if twilight was anything to by she almost denied its existance or demonized it. In her case she needs and extra shove not a gental nudge.
Growing up we look to our parants, friends, family and teachers to show us what is moraly acceptable. Take my battle with such when i was growing up my family didnt allow me or my brother to fight at all period. It was just something that was not talked about and was punished for and not having many friends that were interested in such further lessened any inclination to the subject. But then i got jumped one night after work (and got my ass handed to me) after that i went took up Haganah (israli self defense) and now you get me away from a bag unless its a sparing match. I absolutely love it even when im losing a match i still enjoy it. So in other words if i hadnt got jumped i might never have found that side of myself.
But the point im trying to make is twi and twilight need that extra shove into the deep end to progress. Is rainbow push absolutely and should cut back since the gate is already open so to speak. That may even come up later as a character poont for rainbow to finaly figure out she shouldnt push certain things.
7130121 Here here! It's not like this story has a "romance" tag or anything like that, or was a sequel to a previous romance and clop story that had the same damn thing... oh wait...
Aww, last chapter. For now.
I will withdraw to my shadows and wait for more.
O__O
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A little chaos never hurts anyone lol
Rainbow dash :two hours or tousing fuinter aroud and all for this.
http://www.google.com/search?q=tom+%26+jerry+wrecked+living+room&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari#imgrc=JPrbmaoP6um-hM%3A
Rainbow dash : this is worse than what the yaks did.
Meanwhile in beyond the looking glass unviveriese
Rainbow : hey what is this
Twilight: what
Twi : yah what
Dash : hey Twi I got the hey... what are you... What the buck is that ?
Twi : we all don't know but we are about to find out.