On the other side of the ocean, lies a long forgotten land. Quietly, they watched the other lands, biding their time. When the time is right, they will reveal themselves. On one hand is an olive branch. On the other, is a sword.
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Huh... Blueblood who is actually decent fellow here, and there is tunnel in ponyville that lead's to Canterlot?
Initiating next chapter waiting sequence...
Why do I think that there is something off about the human rebels? They are more then they seem and are making very odd pop culture references.
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Who said it was the Rebels making those references?
RIP Zecora
Oooooh... Might wanna change game companies.. considering Dice and ea lost 3.1 billion..
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Yeah he's not a major dick like he is in most other fanfictions
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I got two references
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Isn't it supposed to be Mac?
Think that should be "hardly"
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It happens when I type late at night.
Stayed up to watch some football games.
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Obviously the first is one Saw with Jigsaw and the other reference is i think is Gravity Falls with Stanford
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There's more to Gravity Falls in this chapter and there will be more.
A little crossover but not really big enough for a tag because it doesn't really have a big part.
Also, you're still missing some references. Think back to Komodo's bet with Shark. That's a hint for two references.
I hate to say it, but I hate the humans in this story. At least, the government and all the ones related to them.
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Nothing is ever black and white. It's always gray.
True. But their just as bad, or worse than Equestria.
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One is driven by revenge and to free their brothers and sisters from slavery, and the other built their empire through slavery.
I dunno about you, but I'll gladly massacre a bunch of ponies to free people than allow Equestria to continue their ways.
What I mean is the level of corruption in the human government is astounding! It’s surprising that it hadn’t ripped itself apart yet. Yes, you could suppress it, or even destroy it. But for how long? It’s only a matter of where, when, and how it wins. Those with cruel intentions will use the current situation to their benefit. It’s destined by fate to tear itself apart, cause let’s be truthful, nothing lasts forever. So, you’re willing to massacre? Are you willing to massacre an intire generation of children to do it?
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First of all, Vorenus and others are very aware of the corruption among the government and nobility. However, they're fighting a shadow war with them while also fighting a Civil War. I will get to them very soon after the next chapter.
And yes, if it means freeing Humanity, I am willing to massacre ponies regardless of their age.
Then may you dine in Hell. No matter how hard you try, you’ Eventually fall. A good deed does not out way a heavy sin, no matter how pure it is. If one tries to justify their actions, they only make the end more painful. I dub the killer of children, slaughter of the bystanders, destroyer of races. May the gates of heaven be forever closed to you, but don’t struggle, it only makes it worse. Why bother? You chose it. So accept it, and move on.
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Who the fuck are you to judge my actions. You call it sinning, I call it loyalty to my species.
I would sacrifice the entire pony civilization to free Humanity. They chose to enslave my people, well I choose to kill them to free my brothers and sisters.
Would you rather be a slave under pony rule? Never to have freedom? Or would you rather fight and die a free man?
If you would rather stay a slave for the rest of your life, that's your choice, but that's not stopping me from killing your masters.
That is not just loyalty, it’s called over kill. Who decided to give you the right to kill an intire generation? Not god, not the devil, or even the people enslaved (who still should be freed), only your self. So tell me, does that make you a hero, or a man/woman that dresses up and pretends to be one to only vent the darkness within your heart. Violence breeds only more violence. The enslaved should still be freed, but killing an intire generation is never justified. You would just be another Stalin. (And don’t call me your brother, we’re not family)
Also, what the fuck gave you a clue that I would rather stay enslaved?!? I’m just saying, that there are more peacefull ways of ending slavery. Hell, even a civil war scinario would be more peaceful than killing an intire generation.
Also, funny picture.
Lastly, let’s just end this banter.
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If you were given a choice to either free Humanity, or destroy Pony civilization, which one would you pick?
I've already thought of peaceful resolutions before I even made this story. Peaceful resolutions don't always work out. Ask Neville Chamberlain. He is very aware of it.
Jesus Christ, you could just put all that in one response instead of 4.
How about no? If theirs not a peaceful way, you make one. Doesn’t matter if you think that there is no peaceful way, there is. Like, remove Celestia and/or luna from the throne (along with anybody else that supports the enslavement of humans), and put good people/ponies, in charge. You don’t need to have xenophobia to an intire race, or to anyone, no matter how justified you think it is. You ask me to choose? I choose the middle ground, even if you think their isn’t one. So don’t go talking down to me, as if there is no way, because there’s always a way.
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Removing Celestia and Luna from the throne is not peaceful. You and I both know the ponies are very loyal to her. Threatening them with violence is the only chance in removing them and that's not going to end peacefully.
You don't make a peaceful resolution when there's no choice unless you bend your ass over for them. Nobody will do that. If I have to, I am willing to destroy pony civilization to free Humanity.
Well then...... That's an argument. It kind of reminds me of the "Fall of Equestria" debate about their morals. There is ways in handling things, but ultimately. There will be always be some type of consequence to one good action and/or bad action.
I remember this chapter being very different yesterday, was that a preview for this chapter?
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I didn't change anything on this chapter.
The preview was for the next chapter.
Lee Stanley is either Stanley Pines or Stan Lee. Sixer is definitely Stanford Pines
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You're on the right track, but not there yet.
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Oh ok, thanks for clearing that up.
"Alright alright alright, settle down. Let Smoke read the cards."
GTA : San Andreas?
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Wasn't intending to.
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Lol, that entire argument was entirely pointless. A person is entitled to his or her opinion, and if one firmly believes in a particular argument, then it'll be be extremely difficult to sway them. Anyway, the way you presented and supported your argument was flawed from the start. Your argument was vague, with little to no evidence to support it. In his case, he briefly referenced several historical events, including how there was no compromise with the Nazis. The key to breeding an ideal is rooting it within the younger generation. The Nazis indoctrinated their younger generations into their ideology, and that's what the older generations of Equestria are trying to force upon the new generation. Also, you can't possibly say that the governments in reality are less corrupt and far more benevolent than the human government in this story. Take the US for example, a majority of US foreign policy pertains to garnering oil, and attaining money. Anyway, to eliminate an ideology you have to uproot it, which is what the allies did by destroying the Third Reich, there was no other way.
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Well, like the old saying goes "choosing the lesser of two evils" or "the needs of the many outweighs the needs of few or the one".
do you want to play a game?
gravity falls references
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Communist are worse then Nazis
The Nazis only killed a few million people while communism has killed nearly
100 million people. And before you go on a rant about the news being not victims I could care less about them. If the holocaust had happened back during the 10th or 12th century no one in the 20th or 21at century would have hated an eye lash or even cared.
And fun fact for you Stalin was planning on a Soviet holocaust for Jews in the USSR before he died.
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Has any one told you how munch of a pussy you are? Their is no middle ground when xenos scum enslave humans. The imperium of man from 40k would wipe the damn floor with these 👽 flith.
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Suffer not the xenos to live.
Especially the enslaving ones.
I thought this was your basic, "Equestria enslaves humanity and fucks up and messed with the wrong species." but, there are so many twists and surprises that I'm questioning what is happening half the time and who is the real baddy(ies) - Celestia and Luna, traitors within the human Empire, the Legionnaries, or something else.
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I read the comment that you were responding to, after carefully reading and examining it, this person's argument is very flawed. In any other story scenario maybe I be saying something else, but if I had to say who's more in the wrong, it be Equestria; this story's situation with Equestria enslaving humanity is reminding me of when the Egyptians enslaved the Hebrews, especially the only reason that occurred was at the time - a shortage of food - the Hebrews moved to live near the Egyptians and due to change of leadership the Hebrews got enslaved - I'm not certain my information is accurate, this is from what I heard, read, and so on.
The only difference with the Egyptians enslaving the Hebrews and Equestrians enslaving humanity, is that one - the one's to original order this enslavement would be Celestia and Luna which lasted for centuries, and if they wanted it to end they could have but never did. Two - unlike the Egyptians enslaving the Hebrews for more labor workers, I can't think benefit that Equestria would have to enslaving those humans' ancestors who ran from the human homeland away from war.
The only conclusions I can think to why they even enslaved these humans is either the technology and goods they may had brought with them - whether its physically or through knowledge - I mean while so far it hasn't revealed whether the Equestrians thought of the weaponry and vehicles of war by themselves or through the humans they enslaved in the past. That and the ideals they share and still having the idea of enslavement is bit contradicting... though from just watching S8 of the show, ponies in general can be very racist with other species, though that was simply the ponies themselves and not Celestia or Luna, but I don't know how the Celestia and Luna of this story are like. There's just so many questions about what brought the idea to enslave the humans - were Celestia and Luna manipulated by corrupt nobles, did some incident in the past happen with the ponies and humans to result to this, or maybe Celestia had some vision of the humans annihilating Equestria and enslaved them out of paranoia and fear of that vision, not realizing the vision came true because she enslaved the humans.
Now back to the original point I was trying to bring - the argument that other person was bringing about a "middle-ground" - peace is possible, but the kind he's expecting is impossible and a tad thoughtless for this story. There will be casualties, both those armed and civilian, the only true way peace can be made is of course the abolishment of enslavement upon humans, after this is what will be done to individuals and groups who heavily had a hand in the enslavement of humans - execution, imprisonment, banishment, any of these options work depending on the individual - finally would be Celestia and Luna, while I love Luna sadly if she did had a hand in this human enslavement in the first place, sadly I have to stay unbias.
Now you think obvious solution is to off them, but several problems with this, but I'll bring up the more important points, one - we don't know what happen if we kill two powerful alicorns, as movers of the sun or moon we don't know if another method can be found to move both celestial objects, sure there's science and the old way to move the celestials objects was with several powerful unicorns but current Equestria have barely any powerful unicorns and I can only think of three. Two - killing the leaders of a nation that ruled since its founding will leave a heavy blow and will leave them leaderless for a long while, trust me having entire nation of leaderless citizens can be troublesome, at least with a leader you can better predict their movements. Three - Celestia and Luna have witnessed and experienced a lot of things, so their knowledge is more valuable than killing them, from a strategical point its better to leave them alive but limited to what they can do.
Fourth and finally - war crimes, you can't expect the ponies to immediately accept peace or be happy alongside with the humans at first, I mean the humans aren't only targeting military, we seen them attack non-combatants and even those that are against human enslavement - Trixie and Lyra's parents - both those supporting slavery and against it will be upset with the war's aftermath, I won't be surprised there will be a civil war after this war. I doubt the chances of censoring the events of this war, so at best it take two or three centuries before both sides will get along - probably quicker if the peace is done properly after the war.
As to what's be done to both Celestia and Luna... well to be honest if this story follows at least a little of the show's history up to a certain point, I bet Luna wasn't present most of the time, unless the enslavement of humans happened during her time, but if not then I would think she secretly planning against her sister. I think banishing the two by stone or their respective celestial bodies might work, for a millennia at least.
So far this is all I can think of right now, I might write some more once I read more of the story and understand both the present and past history of this story.
God damn not the pop cultural references. How the fuck do they have the exact same video games as us when they (presumably) share no history with modern Earth
You know it's funny, I don't think you've shown enough to make me hate this version of Equestria. You tell us there's slaves but we've only seen it come up once. I have no idea if you're still active but this is a case of telling not showing. Heck if anything we've seen more asshole humans than ponies. On the bright side this is probably the most sympathic depiction of blue blood I've seen so you get points for that
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God bless this man, woman or them wherever they are now
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And fuck you specifically you fascist fuck. Burn in hell with Himmler
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God I hope you're dead or transexual by now
Call of duty modern warfare 2 reference?
Wow I'm surprised Blueblood is the opposite, he wants the humans to be equal and free, most fics Blueblood is an asshole and would rant on how humans are inferior to them and tells other nobles and the princesses to punish/abuse the human slaves.