What More Does This World Want From Me?! · 5:08am February 2nd
Every day, whenever things relating to LGBTism are brought up, I find myself caught in ridiculous scandals that often seem to result in me taking the brunt of it all. People on here express their hatred of me, they immediately side with those I’m opposing, and they don’t even take the time to let me tell my side of the story or get to know me better as a person!
They judge me for every past mistake I caused and wish to improve from, and for every comment I made before. No matter how many times I tell the truth, apologize for the things I did, or come clean about who I am personality-wise, people still act like I’m the bad guy of every story! They taunt me, troll me, insult me, even accuse me of things.
If any recent comment has something to do with my latest post, all I can say is that I never meant to encourage a transgender user to commit suicide in the first place! I said terrible things that I regret saying now, and I’m sorry for it. My friendships with others are endangered, and I understand why & wish to make it up to those whom I bonded with.
WHAT MORE DOES EVERYONE WANT OUT OF ME?!
Is it my death that they want?
Do they want me to commit suicide? Do they just like using anything they can find to make me feel bad and drive me to do so? Even without telling me what I did wrong no matter how many times I ask? Or when they just tell me things that don’t relate to the subject?
At this point, I feel so emotionally broken that I can hardly take the constant drama in my life.
The only thing that’s keeping me afloat so far is simply that this could be a test from Jesus. A test to see how strong my Faith in Him is, as well as to see whether I’ll ever conform to the ways of the world.
But even then, I feel like I’m at my breaking point. I’m so depressed because of today’s drama, so crestfallen by the accusations and insults, that I could just scream. I feel like a part of my life was wasted because of it, and that I’m worthless because I’ll never please anyone around here.
Is that really who I am on this site? A punching bag that people like to toy around with every now and then? And someone who people just love to make look bad?
I know what you meant to say. We talked about this and I got your side of the story. But you constantly made bad statement after bad statement, on top of that, fighting with people calling you out for saying such things. It may have not been your intention, but when something you said to someone results in them nearly taking their own life, the best thing you can do is own up to it. We know what you intended, but that doesn’t excuse anything.
You did what you did, even though you didn’t mean it. All you can do now is apologize to people and especially MM.
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How can I do that when people won’t want to hear it anyway? Or believe me?
And how can I ever apologize to MM since he or she clearly thinks that I’m an enemy?
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You explain that you’re sorry and then wait to see if she’ll accept it. If she doesn’t, then that’s fine. There’s nothing you can do. You burned a bridge and you gotta live with it. But the only way for you to truly make amends is to put yourself out there and apologize to the person you hurt, regardless if they forgive you or not.
Alright, let's do this thing. First off, stop using faith to justify bigotry. I don't care what you believe believe God said or meant, people are beyond tired of religion or God being used to justify dislike or hatred toward entire groups of people. I'm a transwoman that's into women, does that mean I get less respect from you because of what you think an very old book said, or that God personally told you? As long as you continue to hold onto these beliefs, this situation won't heal. You might have gotten blocked by people like MM because they don't want to deal with this. Trust me, LGBT people like me know, we very well know how much certain religious people don't like LGBT people, that it's a sin, won't get into the Kingdom of God, whatever. Of course MM blamed Christianity for her suicide note. Calling yourself a Christian doesn't automatically make you a good person.
Really think about what it is that you take issue with about LGBT people. If you didn't believe God told you so, what would be the issues? Now sure, there's a lot of far left ultra woke LGBT people with little to no backbone, but that's not my focus here. At some point, which I suggest around now during all of this drama, is to really think about what it is that you're doing. People are not going to hold you in very high regret if you think being LGBT is a moral sin or failure on their part. I didn't choose to have gender incongruence. I'm well aware that I'm biologically not a woman and that will probably always bother me, but also that I should attempt something to be happier.
Christianity ends up being a turn off to many younger people especially if they're LGBT because Christians still carry the stigma of being anti LGBT, being homophobia and transphobia based on what they think a two thousand old book said. Sure you're within your rights to believe however you want about this, so are other people if they want to distance themselves from you.
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the funny thing is that even that book said nothing about those things, if we consider the oldest translation or version of the book judging how it actually appeared and was modified, honestly that book is a prime example of a mean to brainwash and control the masses only because it had so manny "fixes" in it's text. AND THIS COMES FROM AN ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN THAT HAS HALF OF THE FAMILY IN THE BAPTIST DENOMINATION. Also l'm from Balkans so feel free to not care what I say considering that in the long run these are the people who are the most racist and anti everything that will ever exist, to bad we also like violence
Stay strong, my friend. God smiles down on those who stand for the truth
Don't listen to those haters. They just don't understand. In fact, heed Admiral Producer's advice: Go apologize to them, especially MM.
I want you to know that you are not defined by the opinions of others. You are a valuable person with unique qualities. It's okay to make mistakes; we all do. What's important is learning from them and striving to be a better person. Consider taking a break from online platforms if it's causing you distress. Your mental well-being is more important. When faced with negativity online, try to respond calmly and assertively. Ignoring trolls or blocking them can also be a good strategy. Focus on your strengths and the positive aspects of your life.
Remember the people who care about you and support you. Don't hesitate to reach out to a mental health professional or counselor if you're finding it difficult to cope. They can provide valuable guidance and strategies. You have the strength to get through this challenging time, and I'm here to support you every step of the way. Consider joining online communities that are more supportive and understanding of your experiences. Surrounding yourself with positivity can make a big difference. It's okay to lean on your faith during tough times, but also remember that seeking help and support from others is a sign of strength, not weakness. You are not alone in this. I'm here for you, and together, we can navigate through these challenges.
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I haven't followed much of this, so I don't really have a horse in this race, but follow Admiral Producer's advice, if you can apologize, whether they forgive you your not is their choice.
And in future events, don't be so vocal about disagreements, don't lecture them, and don't cite Bible verses on how it's wrong. The Bible has been translated so many times that some things are misunderstood or used to control the masses like the verse "our body is a temple." Many denominations use that to shame you for your diet, like SDA's condemn coffee or any affiliated beverage. Or even look at history at how religion was used to control people's habits, they banned soda or something on Sunday because drinking from a straw was considered sinful for some reason.
I'm a Christian too, but might be agnostic on a few things. From a Christian perspective I don't fully agree with everything, but I don't think the LGBT+ community should have any less rights than what we have. To be honest, people in same-sex relationships are more faithful to each other than those in heterosexual relationships, I believe it's not my place to judge and for all we know, those we don't expect to see in heaven will be in heaven.
Like I said before, I am a Christian, but may be agnostic so I label myself as a Christian-Agnostic, but speaking from my Christan side. I would most likely be judged harshly in any church or by religious extremist. For the following reasons.
1. I love to drink
2. I dabble in reading the tarot
3. I do believe astrology and crystals do have a certain power
4. I believe in the woman's right to an abortion. (But only if the mother's life is in danger, incest, or rape)
5. I gamble. Mainly nickel and dime poker but still gambling.
There are many other reasons, but they escape me.
Point is, don't be too vocal about your views on issues unless asked, a simple "I don't agree, but that's just me," will do.
I have atheist friends in Facebook, but they're good people and that's all that matters. I won't let beliefs get in the way of our friendship
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Let me ask you this:
I was always taught to “hate the sin, not the sinner”. In this case, not approve of or support what another person does while still giving them love and an offering of Friendship.
Isn’t that a good thing?
Dude, are you serious? Have you not read any of their comments? They explicitly told you what you did wrong numerous times, and you didn't listen. And nobody was forcing you to unalive yourself. That's just bullshit.
Sorry for coming off as rude, but the fact you are oblivious to all the crystal clear criticisms directed at you is just insane to me.
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It’s hard to actually see where they’re coming from when they keep saying the same thing over and over again.
All they often did was call me things like homophobic or transphobic, as well as frequently refer to events of the past, and that makes it hard for me to discern whether they’re either just trolling me based on my beliefs or actually trying to help me understand. Several even stated that I’m misguided and am displeasing the Lord, yet every time I look through the majority of my past comments, I couldn’t get it. I never said anything that’d remotely imply that I wanted MM dead, nor did I “bully” the user.
The only things I realized I did wrong was that I should’ve been more sensitive towards MM’s proclamation. It was wrong of me to call the user a coward for considering the notion, and I know now that I should’ve worded more carefully why I think the notion was wrong. That, and feeding into the hate others were inflicting on me.
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So this doesn’t ring a bell…? 👇🏼
Remember, you responded with these words under your “Apology” post after Muffin posted her comment. So that means that you weren’t actually sorry for the way you acted towards her and still held to your beliefs that she was everything you described her—which was something you constantly called her at the end of 2023.
Dude, be honest with me. Are you genuinely sorry?
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No, because "hate the sin love the sinner" is a cop out. It's generally only used for say, LGBT stuff. Why are you so hell bent on LGBT stuff being a sin in the first place? Who told you this? The Bible? God directly himself? God is all loving, right? So why would he be so upset that someone loves someone of the same sex?
You can't have it both ways. You can't say you're okay and friendly with someone while also condemning their sexuality or gender. Didn't you also said you believe people are not born LGBT? You don't seem to realize how that comes off. You're basically saying that people choose to be LGBT. Why in the fuck would someone choose this when there's a lot of backlash against it, especially in third world countries? Now granted nowadays, LGB in the West has less backlash than ever. It only ever seems to be straight people who say people choose to be LGBT because they don't understand it.
The only choices here are to act on it. You cannot control having feelings for the same sex. You do control if you want to get in a relationship or sexual act with someone of the same sex. But then I've seen Christians say that gay people should refrain from sex. Why? Do people just blindly accept whatever religion told them?
As long as you treat LGBT as a wrong, sin, or lesser than not being LGBT, you'll always get backlash from people over it. So, what is it going to be? I'm not asking you to give up your faith or anything, but what I am asking is to question it. Do you have a reason beyond "God said so"? You realize people live in sin all the time, according to Christianity? Yet for some reason, LGBT gets special treatment in regards to this? Do you think God will be angry with you if you fully accept LGBT people? Again, if he's all loving, why would he care so much about the genders involved?
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Yes. The comment you quoted is another mistake I took further note of.
I was angry. Everything about his or her response seemed to say in my head that he or she wasn’t wanting to let go of the past, and it felt like it was more of a straight-up attack on me to make him or herself look good than anything else.
He or she accused me of lying, being transphobic and homophobic, everything! That was why I blocked MM.
How would you feel if someone was making false claims about you? And basically manipulating everything into something else?
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You said that yesterday was a test of faith, right? Could it be possible her comment was likewise a test and you failed? Why is it so hard for you to simply humble yourself and apologize for any information you got wrong about her?
I would simply have a private conversation with that person and understand the entire issue. If I were in your shoes and the second person shows evidence I did something horribly wrong, I would take FULL responsibility for my actions and bear any consequences that follow.
This is not rocket science, dude.
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Then you do not have as much of an understanding of the Bible or God’s teachings as you say. Jesus calls his Followers to be loving and caring to everyone, no matter their lifestyles or backgrounds. He never limited himself to the Jewish, he reached out to all people as a friend, and he certainly didn’t shun anyone anyway.
Like it or not, the Book of Genesis is a section that should always be taken into account. It details the beginnings of Creation, why everything is made a specific way, the reason for why our world is in a state of turmoil and strife, everything.
I know what people are saying about me. And I’m sorry for whatever mistakes I caused. But, I can assure you that I do not believe in condemning others. I do not approve the killing of anyone who isn’t a Christian or wish for them to take their own lives, and I certainly don’t believe in forcing others to think the same as me.
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I'm an atheist, but I like to think I'm educated on Christianity in various forms. You're not forced to believe in any specific part about God or the Bible. These are your choices, yours! No one is making you believe the way you do. You realize the Bible has been translated countless times? Which version do you go by, the King James one? What makes that any more correct than the many, many other translations? And why is homosexuality such a sin anyway? As I said, you cannot have condemn someone's sexuality and then act like their your equal. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
I ask again, what is God going to do to you if you stop condemning being LGBT? Not let you in Heaven? Love you less? You'll never make amends with people like MM and you'll continue to be called homophobic and transphobic. Now, I get it, those terms get thrown around a lot, even I've been called transphobic multiple times from far left people who see everything not on their side as alt right. But I don't want to actually be those things they accuse me of. But then, what even is transphobia these days?
For starters, referring to MM as he or she isn't going to win her respect back, if you even can. If not, well, that's lessons learned for future social interactions. I get how much of a minefield this whole gender pronouns thing is and even I take issues with neo pronouns. But male and female pronouns are pretty normal. I get how it can seem like giving into a delusion to refer to someone with pronouns of which they're biologically not. The whole transgender topic is less of a minefield and more of a fresh nuclear blast zone.
But on homosexuality, which is less of a danger zone, what would you lose by not treating their sexuality as a sin? If you're going to condemn them for their sin, you realize according to numerous takes on the Bible, we're sinful beings all the time even after asking for forgiveness? You're not morally superior to homosexuals. This whole topic has been such a hot button topic in America. For example, the whole fight for same sex marriage rights and the biggest opponents to that being Christians.
Especially among the youth, Christianity isn't this conforming force. There's so many awful people who claim to be Christians who use their religion to dehumanize people for any reason. I'm not saying you're one of them, but there is a major stigma after all of the drama that went down over the years. LGBT people are finally freed from those calling themselves Christians and using the law to determine what they can and can't do with their lives.
So what does the world want from you? Stop treating LGBT people as more sinful than anyone else. The era of homophobic Christians is rapidly declining as the rest of the world moves on, like moving on from the bigotries of the past.
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I’m afraid that it’s genuinely because I saw everything differently compared to MM. From my personal viewpoint, MM was the villain, and the liar, no matter what others were saying.
But, I can see now that everything was a result of not taking the time to actually communicate whatever problems were happening. Like I said before, if MM hadn’t blocked me, I would’ve loved to actually talk things out and see to getting things between us straightened up.
Sadly, I hardly think that’s going to happen. It’s clear that MM isn’t ever gonna let a reconciliation between us happen, and if he or she did…it’d be a miracle.
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The Love of God is eternal, and everlasting. I don’t worship Him simply to go to Heaven. I worship Him because he’s truly the Savior and Father worth having the company of. Without Him, I would be dead.
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MM classifies as trans. How am I supposed to know for sure whether the user is a boy or girl?
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She, you keep saying he or she. She if you want to attempt to repair this.
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Okay, fine, but what does that have to do with treating LGBT as a sin? You can do what you claim without the whole "hate the sin, love the sinner" thing. None of that should change with God by treating LGBT people as your equals. I know you say you do, but "I don't condemn their lifestyle" isn't equality. Do you think God himself loves such people any less? If not, then can't you do the same? As I mentioned before, it's not a choice if someone is LGBT, only to act on it. If people can be born with various disorders and disabilities, then why also not LGBT? Maybe God has a plan for those people that he hasn't told you about. And it may not be "don't act on homosexual feelings". I dunno for sure, I'm not the Christian here. I'm attempting to work within your faith here.
As I said, you may never get into contact with MM again even if you fully apologize for at least the mistakes you made. Which isn't me saying that I think MM was entirely in the right either. But I can see her side in this. People generally don't want to deal with people they think takes issue with an aspect they cannot control. It's not much different then traits like race.
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Because she has referred to herself as a trans girl, at least in that suicide post from yesterday.
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Suppose MM once classified as a boy, though. Or was perhaps a boy but later decided to be a girl. What then?
As for the rest of what you say…
I’m afraid much of this comes down to the fact that we both have different opinions & beliefs as people. It’s part of what makes us human. I mean, can you imagine how boring it’d be if we agreed on the same thing?
I believe that gender is what a person is born with while sexuality is a choice, whereas others seem to think it’s the other way around. And again, much of why I think this also comes from the book of Genesis.
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At least with MM, it's not that complex. Her gender identity is female and probably isn't genderfluid as in changing pronouns and whatever on a whim. I'm personally not onboard with making a game out of it. But she'll probably just go by female pronouns for the rest of her life.
As for differing opinions and beliefs, that doesn't excuse actual bigotry. This has nothing to do with all of us having the same opinions and views on people. And I say again, sexuality isn't a choice. You're just straight up wrong on this. In fact, where does it say in Genesis that people choose their sexuality? You're talking about a 2,000 year old book written in a very different time and era compared to where we are now. We understand people way more these days than back then. We likely didn't have studies and such on sexuality compared to before where it was harshly condemned. Why are you so hellbent on holding onto sexuality being a choice? As I asked before, do you really think people would intentionally choose to be gay given how much harder that makes life in many cases?
What are you gaining by holding onto sexuality is a choice belief? You said that God's love is eternal and everlasting. You think that becomes any less true if you accept sexuality as something that's as built in as race? And on that note, you can't hide behind your faith or beliefs to say whatever you want about people. That used to work, but not anymore. God, the Bible, and/or Christianity isn't a shield nor should it be. Are you using those as an excuse to hold specific views about people? I know I keep hammering on this point, but the backlash against you won't stop as long as you hold onto this. And again, I'm not asking you to stop believing in God even if I am an atheist because I don't get to decide anyone else's beliefs, but it won't stop me from questioning behaviors done as a result of said beliefs.
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I’m not doing any of those things. And I’m certainly not using God, the Bible, or Christianity as a shield. Or as a way of condemning and judging others.
I only reference them to help people understand where my beliefs come from, that’s all.
The problem is that people call me a “bigot” simply because they don’t agree with my beliefs and points of views. And these days, more people seem to think that disagreement and difference of opinion makes others an enemy.
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If it’s genuinely true that MM is a she, then I’ll gladly call the user by the female pronouns.
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You get called a bigot, from my understanding, because you seemingly want to treat LGBT people as lesser or more wrong or sinful than those who are not. And that is what you're doing, hiding behind things to have those views. It doesn't work anymore. You're just going to have to owe up to these things and face them head on. Just like a racist can't hide behind "my southern upbringing" as an excuse, homophobia and transphobia is likewise that way. Now in my case, I have not directly called you those things. There are Christians who do not have any ill feelings toward LGBT people, but then Christianity in itself has billions of followers who have varying different ideas on who God is. There's countless sects and probably more popping up to this very day. It's almost like the only thing they share in common is accepting Jesus Christ as their lord and savior, everything else ends up being justified whatever what way.
Would it hurt you to admit that treating sexuality as a choice is perhaps not a good move? No matter how many Christians are against homosexuality, it isn't going anyway any more than people eating pork, ending marriages, wearing mixed fabrics, and any number of things spoken of as a sin in the Old Testament. Yet it's homosexuality that gets special treatment by people. I'm not any lesser than you as a person because I happen to be a transwoman and still into women, I've no romantic or sexual interest in men. And it doesn't matter how many religious people tell me that's wrong or a sin, it doesn't make it so.
Although Christian behavior has no factor in determining if God is real or not, there are people turning away from religion and even a belief in God over how Christians have acted. As I mentioned before with organized religion and a personal relationship with God being 2 different things. You're effecting holding onto a dying breed in terms of LGBT beliefs.
How about I give a more personal example? As I said, I'm a transwoman. I take no pride in this. I'm not like this for the hell of it or because I thought it would be cool or fun, not at all. I flat out hate being this way, but gender incongruence is a reality of life just like autism is for the best of us. Now I know these are of course not entirely comparable, I haven't seen Christians going around saying autism is a sin. But then you probably know autism isn't something that can be "cured" and it sticks with you for life, just like sexuality or even gender identity. Well... I say that about gender identity and then you get into people saying they're something different will nilly... let's not focus on those specific people. You even said that gender is something you're born with, which I'm not entirely positive if that includes the concept of transgender or not.
Although I don't believe in it, it is annoying to be told I'm going to Hell because I can't control these feelings of wanting to be a woman and at that, wanting to be with other women. Yes, I realize you have not said anything about Hell in regrets to this. But people like MM don't know that. She sees you as another anti-LGBT Christian of which she's likely dealt with plenty of times. I did as well although I don't let them have nearly the same degree of control over my life because I'm also not stuck in a situation where I'm surrounded by them.
But ultimately, this battle against homosexuality isn't going to be "won", so to speak. Another way to look at it is a form of birth control. Not every single human being needs to multiple. Not that you need to be gay to not do so but it mostly ensures you won't intentionally hook up with the opposite sex. Those who are gay will remain so no matter how often people tell them they're in the wrong for so doing. What even is the harm of homosexuality anyway? We've no shortage of births and not all straight people bring babies into the world either.
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All I can say is that I assure you it’s the complete opposite. No matter the difference in lifestyles or background, I believe that we’re all made in the image of God. We’re all equal, as brothers and sisters in Christ.
But, unfortunately, I can’t control how others will see me or what they think of me. It won’t matter what I do. The only thing I can do is work on further improving from whatever mistakes I actually caused, as well as move on and turn my focus more to other things in life.
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I guess at this point, it's best not to bring the subject matter up if possible. Generally religion, along with politics, is a super hot button topic not fit for general discussions. You might turn this around after all. Even if things are bad now, it doesn't have to remain that way. And it really does look like you want to move on from this. Good luck and do keep in mind how your actions or even beliefs you post about might be seen by other people. It's not easy, especially if you're autistic, because such people get thrown to the wolves the instant they don't conform to something. I know how annoying it can be to deal with super preachy and judgment people from the Left who mirror the tactics of the Alt Right they claim to be against.
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Thank you. I appreciate the words of kindness, wisdom, and support you gave.
Dude, it's simple: don't care about them.
I, Lord Alondro, am the MASTER of the martial art of dungivashit. The angry screams of my enemies make me giggle with mirth!
5766469 Oh but they ARE! They're all going to BURN IN THE FIRES OF HELL FOR ETERNITY!!!
My God is ANGRY OLD TESTAMENT GOD, and His wrath DELIGHTS me! As if these PUNY MORTALS have any hope against THE SHEER OMNIPOTENCE OF THE BEING I SERVE!! MUWAH HA HA HA HA HA!!!
(See, THIS is how you REALLY piss them off!)
5766455 More like 2,600 for the oldest confirmed copies. Buuuuuuuut, it's also foolish of YOU to assume YOUR cultural norms will not be tossed aside at some point. After all, there are some VERY LARGE and VERY POWERFUL nations out there who have ALL of the Alphabet brigade stuff OUTLAWED ON PAIN OF DEATH. And as the West weakens, they see opportunities for conquest the likes of which have not existed since WWII.
Never be so arrogant as to assume the entire world thinks like you.
Instead, become LIKE ME, and BEND THE COSMOS TO YOUR WILL!!! As I did in Argentina... MILEI IS ONE OF MY AGENTS!! >:D #GodEmperorAlondro2032
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I... you realize this also goes for any other values like rightwing Christian values? What you're accusing me of is already happening with those values. I'm well aware that's 3rd world countries that outlaws LGBT stuff. And as to not be arrogant of the rest of the world not thinking the same, of course, and that goes for anything. America could ban same sex marriages again. Other countries could make LGBT not illegal. Although it seems like I have some liberal values, I'm often accused of being alt right by the far left.
And I'm just going to not comment on the rest of... whatever that is.
5766739 The rest of it is ALONDRO. For ALONDRO has looked into the Time Vortex... and no one's meant to do that...