First comment, and I've decided to talk about my version of Manifest Harmony's "The ClockTower Society"

First and most obvious, my ponies are anthro.

Secondly, the only Ponyville residents who I know for sure are members are Mr. and Mrs. Cake. Those twin's? The result of spending time as a public cum dumpster in the breeding section.

My universe is open to other writers so if someone wanted to use my anthro universe to write about Lira and Bon Bon, or any other pony's adventures in the society, more power to them. No need to hook into the main story line at all.

It is possible that Cadence and Shining Armor are members. Some of that will be up to the readers. I'm susceptible to bribery.

As to what sort of games they play. The Society does have gender swap capability. So Gleaming Shield is a possibility. But does Cadence go stallion, or do both of them spend time side by side in the public use facility? Or something else completely.

No Flurry. She's an unnecessary complication, though she might be conceived at some point in this story.

None of the Mane Six are members, but Rarity would have received an offer to join if not for the fact that she's a package deal. They'd not be able to get her without her friends coming along for the ride. They are not sure just how Twilight and the rest of her friends might react.

Celestia knew of the Society, but ignored them and pretended ignorance when necessary.

Luna knew nothing about them, and will likely break some pottery when she finds out. It would have made her life way less complicated if she'd known about them a thousand years ago. A whole society of ponies who would have been delighted to 'play' with her.

My society was formed after the fall of the Unicorn Kingdom, and was kept a big secret because any hint at BDSM activity, no matter how consensual would have been censored, hard. The general population experienced a back lash after the debauchery of the Unicorns was ended. any thing that was not vanilla sex drew the ire of the prudes.

While modern Equestria is a bit more accepting the habit of three thousand years is hard to break.

Over the eons the Society has put down various cults that preach total male domination and act on that belief, in a non-consensual way. Think young mares indoctrinated into cults, or kidnapped off the street to never be heard from again.

Some of the leaders of the more devious cults have upon interrogation given up the name. "Caridoon" but just who or what Caridoon is has never been discovered. But it is a name that has shown up now and then over the centuries. There are people in the enforcement arm of the Society who would give left tit, or balls, for solid information and a chance at taking down Caridoon, whoever or whatever it is.

But I'm no intention to cover anything non-consensual in this story arc. If I feel I need to do anything that is dark it will be in a separate story. In fact, I'd just as soon some other writer took care of that stuff. I've spent a lot of time getting this world to the point where I can just indulge myself in writing kinky BDSM fun.

I hope you enjoy the ride, and don't be shy to put forward a wish list, keeping in mind that I'm going to be focusing on the characters who's icons I've included under the story.

Right, because a happily married monogamous relationship is impossible in kink stories, the Cakes, Lyra and Bon Bon, and Shining and Cadance are swingers who fuck everyone BUT their spouses and Mr. Cake isn't the twins real father because fuck fidelity.

And you're dancing with Fall of Equestria territory, brother. Be prepared for serious backlash.

I always check it out because I'm mildly curious, but I never enjoy stories like this

Anyone else just prefer straight mind control to BDSM?

7616148 he's actually trying to make a batter Fall of Equestria. BDSM but consentual

I honestly don't get the OBSESSIVE hate for FoE with the various other dark or mind control stories around

I like the cover art

7616256 Manifest Harmony did good work.

Manifest Harmony told me there's an anthro version of Clocktower Society. But is this a different universe? And is the Society long gone or something in your world's timeline, judging by how Applejack was reading about it in an ancient diary?

I glanced at the previous stories in this series. They're all very....non-consensual, very much against Clocktower Society principles that Manifest Harmony is striving for. I'm surprised she allowed you to use the Society here at all, unless you're writing a war story between the Society and Caridoon in FoE-bashing style. But she obviously approves of your work, enough to draw you cover art for it.

Either way, I came to see more of Clocktower Society so I'll reserve judgement until I see an actual glimpse of the Society. You get a track for now and a like to help you along. Fave later if you present the Society as Manifest Harmony intended it to be - a force against non-consensuality.

7616177 'Better Fall of Equestria'? There is no such thing and there can never be such a thing. But better portrayal of real life consensual, safe and sane BDSM lifestyle in Equestria? That exists. Look up Clocktower Society.

7616650 The society has been around for three thousand years, the Journal Applejack looked at was an old one. The Society is still around, and don't worry, I intend to keep to the standards set by Manifest Harmony as far as the Society is concerned.

But that does not mean that there are not elements outside the society who don't believe in consent, and yes, the Society will join forces with Princess Luna to fight against those forces. already have the section written where a member displays contempt and anger for Caridoon, even though she does not know if it is a person or a place. She just knows that over the millenniums the name keeps popping up associated with some of the worst of the worst when it comes to evil secret sex societies.

All that said, right from the moment I conceived of this universe I've been aiming for this particular story arc, where Dusk and his friends undergo 'training' and I'm in no hurry to advance to the conflict stage.

Indeed, I should warn anyone who is following this story that the eventual resolution I foresee will be very anti-climatic. I've already established the plot device that will allow Equestria to win in a cakewalk. Birth Control. Equestria has it, Caridoon wants it.

7616650 Oh, by the way, while I make no excuses for Applejacked having strong non-con themes. It was needed to shake up the status quo, I really tried with the Dusk Shine Rising story to keep things fairly consensual.

Biggest non-con scene would have been the one where Rarity mistook poor Dusk Shine as a vile rapist and tried to give him a taste of his own medicine.

I must say, Manifest Harmony did a great job with the cover art. Though that means, of course, that you'll have to put AJ in a bridle gag at some point..!

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That would be the stupid kind of backlash. The kind that downvotes FoE-bashing stories just because there's Caribou in it.

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You know... one of the reasons I haven't joined the Clocktower group is because it seems to promote the idea that liking consensual kink stories over non-consensual makes you an inherently better person. Some of the members have argued that point in the past.

Now that Applejack was aware of just how wonderful that could be with the right stallions how could she allow her own needs to deny Twilight the same mind blowing, hoot and hollering, bucking fantastic, feeling of a male releasing inside her body after he’d pounded her till she couldn’t think straight?

Because she seems to prefer being the one doing the pounding.

Applejack’s attention was drawn away from her musings of what Twilight would do to her if he were actually a real stallion by Bother suddenly yelling out. “Staircase!” At the same time there was a tinkling sound as Bother twitched her long expressive ears and the bells that Applejack was just now noticing were attached to their tips sounded.
Big Mac’s downward striking hand stopped instantly, an inch from Bother’s bruised ass, and then gently settled down on top of her heated skin as he palmed her posterior.

A safeword, interesting.

Until she remembered that Twilight wasn’t a true stallion and that there was no sin in discouraging her from keeping up the charade that he was.

You are stubborn, aren't you?

“Yeah, bout what I thought,” Big Mac said as he nodded his head. “Ain’t the right answer though. But ain’t surprised. You can’t even admit what you want, can’t expect you to figure out what Bother does.”

You, uh, want a minute to rephrase that there, chief?

Applejack’s face reddened and she was on the verge of a heated retort when her brother said, “I spanked her cause it’s what she wanted. She thought I didn’t care what she did, that I didn’t care about her. I spanked her so she’d know I cared enough about her to do it. I did it hard so she could show me that I could trust her to be honest and tell me when it was too much. And I’m fucking her out here because all this time she thought I was ashamed to own such a worthless slave that I wouldn’t even fuck her in public.”

Oh. Never mind.

“Granny knows what we were doing in the barn.” Applejack cut off her brother with a high pitched squeak.

And gives about as many fucks as you'd expect her to give. None.

Your Safe Word is Law

Interesting.

“Say what now?” Applejack exclaims. “What the buck is this? Did Great Aunt Rose write steamy novels?” She asks, directing her attention to her big brother who has a hand resting on Bother’s head as she strives to swallow a couple of more inches of his cock.

Nope.

I have to confess that the wild lands scare me. It’s hard to imagine a place that grows any which way it likes with no pony magic to help it along. Or where the weather is totally random with no control at all. No pegasus or unicorn dares come close to this place. Their magic would run wild or turn against them. It really drives home how terrible the war between the legendary pony sisters must have been. Somewhere near here, Master says, is the remains of their home but I have no desire at all to seek it out, even if we were to have the time. If it is this bad here, I can’t imagine how bad it must be there.

The Everfree.

lol.

Didn't know that was a thing back then.

The jam made from what Gran Gran is calling Zap Apples is incredible. Like nothing I’ve ever tasted. And best of all, Stinky, I mean, Master Rich, bought almost all of it for enough to pay off our homestead loan.

A good stallion, much like Filthy Rich after him.

Maybe the reverse was true. Was Big Mac’s magic allowing Bother to ‘stretch’?

Not impossible.

Tomorrow is my birthday. I don’t know if I can last that long without exploding. I’m going to write all about it here. It’s my very first scenario in our new home and I have a feeling I’m going to want a record to savor for when I’m old and grey.

Hello, this got interesting...

I toyed with the idea of Princess Cadence vetting volunteers and matching them up with their most compatible partner.
That might still happen. If it does, that will mean that Cadence and Shining Armor belong to the TCS.

Interesting idea.

While I don't really care if I ever get there, my vision of the conclusion of this story line sees Dusk Shine becoming the ruler of Caridoon, and to have this line up with his title of "The Prince of Friendship." Because he thinks that sex, no matter how kinky, is best between friends.

He would.

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Hold that thought.

Over the eons the Society has put down various cults that preach total male domination and act on that belief, in a non-consensual way. Think young mares indoctrinated into cults, or kidnapped off the street to never be heard from again.

Does that mean they never had to deal with the opposite?

7616733 More than that, now I'm seriously considering making Fluttershy a back and forth gender shifter, while always being a vamp pony. Just because she's so darn cute in that picture.

The trigger, frustrated lust, the cure, satiation.

7616775 Good point. My bias showing.

But be fair, in the real world how many stories have you read about a woman keeping a teen-age boy a prisoner in her basement as a sex slave.

And while there have been female serial killers they are far more common in fiction than real life.

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And we've seen Fluttershy has a side that really really wants to be a bat pony. Maybe it makes her feel stronger..? Or perhaps it means she can get more in touch with her inner animal (or critter, as it were). Or it's a lingering effect from Twilight Sparkle's spell that became permanent. It may be a little tragic, but that last option is probably the one most rooted in canon.

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Actually, I did read about a few. Not teenage boy, however, more adults. XD Let's leave that aside, though, after all, there's a logical reason why this Equestria would have more maledom-secret societies popping up than the other variant.

It would still be surprising if there'd never been a cult that's looked at all the Alicorns so far and thought "hm, I guess mares really are better." Or that's seen the male villains like Sombra and Discord and Tirek and came to believe males shouldn't have any power at all. Or that came into being as backlash to what happened under the Unicorn kings.

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Yeah. Apparently people don't like to see their favorite fictional characters beaten, tortured, mind-fucked, and raped. What a stunner...

7616940 it's funny though, because there's tons of stories for tortured, for mindfucked, for raped, but something about the way it's combined that sets people off in Fall of Equestria

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And some people do. Personal tastes and all.

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It's probably more the sexism of the villains that sets people off. I remember a story that inversed it, where he mares enslaved and tortured the stallions, and reactions ranged from "this is just as bad as Fall" to "well, it's not as bad when the females do it".

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Say, Jake, how do you feel about OC and canon ships? One of my absolute favourite kinky fics involving a married couple is a second story HiE fic with Rarity and a human dude. It's got several kinks (pregnancy, feeding, a bit of spanking, interspecies) and the romance between the protagonists is wonderfully written. The author really nailed Rarity, no pun intended.

Wait, I think it's not actually totally monogamous. I forgot. Darnit, that's too bad. Welp, anyway, the name of the story is Preggity. Great fic regardless, worth checking out.

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By the by, since this now is a Clocktower fic with all the strictures placed on those, and you've already expressed disinterest in writing certain scenes happening in Caridoon itself (involving certain Pegasi et al), are you going to hand those over to other writers as well? And if so, would it make more sense if they asked you to publish in their names (seeing as how this is your brainchild) as a separate short story?

By the by, since this now is a Clocktower fic with all the strictures placed on those, and you've already expressed disinterest in writing certain scenes happening in Caridoon itself (involving certain Pegasi et al), are you going to hand those over to other writers as well? And if so, would it make more sense if they asked you to publish in their names (seeing as how this is your brainchild) as a separate short story?

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One of my problems is that I have way too much material in my head to cover in any reasonable length of time.

I do have someone interested in doing at least part of what happened in Caridoon, but don't make any promises on that front.

I may do some material set in Caridoon, featuring Fluttershy.

If I do any material that does not fit under the Clocktower seal of approval, I will likely publish separately.

I've always said that my universe is open to other writers, and I have no problem with them doing Caridoon centric fics. And they are not restricted to my current time period.

So if someone wanted to do a Daring Do story in which she investigates a ruin in Caridoon, set after the conflict ends, I'd be fine with that.

The third story in the Caridoon universe.

Fourth if you count mine, since it is canon, too

mares need to learn to pass as submissive sex-slaves and stallions need to be believable douche bags

From what i have observed so far, that's not really what natives are, but they just think it because both Luna and AJ suffered at those unicorns' hands. they'll get quite the shock when they find not all males there are like that. in fact, it could backfire, making everyone think they're like the unicorns, which would go really badly

7621282 Dang, you are right. Sorry about that. I'll edit.

Where is the other one ?
http://www.fimfiction.net/index.php?view=category&user=223507
There are jest 3

7622596 You need to go to the Caridoon Group. The forth is in the folder there, is written by another author Autum Breeze

https://www.fimfiction.net/story/285157/a-celestial-ploy

7622604 Wait isn't Dusk Shine and the Mysterious Society the forth ?

What is the order ?

1) Applejacked

2)

3)

4)

Dusk Shine Rising
Dusk Shine and the Mysterious Society
A Celestial Ploy ?

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Celestial Ploy could be considered as happening at the same time as Dusk Shine Rising.

It does not impact on the main story plot line and is pretty much a stand alone, though events in it might play a role way down the road, a couple of years maybe story time.

7622627 So...

1) Applejacked

2 & 3) Celestial Ploy & Dusk Shine Rising

4) Dusk Shine and the Mysterious Society

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