I was forced to leave The Insane Writers Guild · 7:28am Dec 20th, 2017
I was forced to leave The Insane Writers Guild earlier this night because the group is dying and it is ruled by abusive pro Disney admins. The group has problems for quite some time like having a number of it's members blindly defending the movie critics who attacked My Little Pony: The Movie, viciously attacking anyone who dares says anything that is less than flattering towards Disney, and celebrating the upcoming movie studio monopoly from Disney which would result in the return of the Hays Code, and the admins banning people for ridiculous reason like disagreeing with Disney and not even telling them that they have been banned. So for all of these reasons I decided to leave that group, giving up my status as a Contributor in it. For those who follow me, if you are not a member of this toxic group, don't join. And if you are already a member of it, then I advise you to leave it. It is no longer a safe and fun group anymore.
Remember when you were gleefully cheering them on when they were chasing me out?
Pepperidge Farm Remembers.
No one ever chased you out of the group. You got two strikes which gave you a 24 hour ban. I lifted the ban and you decided to post this thread: https://archive.is/fYQt4
And then make this blog. You also banned me from your two groups even though I didn't do anything and was only ever nice in them and helped you to promote them.
So this is all kind of unfair.
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He caused arguments in four or five threads and didn't stop when the admins asked him to. He was on his second strike and got a 24 hour ban.
He then retaliated by making this thread in the group after I lifted the ban: https://archive.is/fYQt4
And he made this blog entry (here: https://archive.is/NXsYY), despite the fact that he was the one who was causing trouble in the group. The admins were more than fair, and gave him chance after chance. And we even lifted the ban...only to have him write this blog and make that forum post. So that was basically how we were rewarded.
He also banned me from his two groups despite the fact that I have only ever helped to promote them, said nice things in them, and have never done anything wrong.
So there's that.
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I am not sympathetic to his cause and think he deserves everything he got, have no fear.
I was merely gloating at his distress because when I was thrown down, he laughed at me.
I'm sorry to hear this
4754394 You are always welcome in my group. I think you are awesome if it counts. :)
4754412 I actually didn't want him to leave my group. He chose to do that on his own.
This is what happened (borrowed from the post I made below).
He caused arguments in four or five threads and didn't stop when the admins asked him to. He was on his second strike and got a 24 hour ban.
He then retaliated by making this thread in the group after I lifted the ban: https://archive.is/fYQt4
And he made this blog entry (here: https://archive.is/NXsYY), despite the fact that he was the one who was causing trouble in the group. The admins were more than fair, and gave him chance after chance. And we even lifted the ban...only to have him write this blog and make that forum post. So that was basically how we were rewarded.
He also banned me from his two groups despite the fact that I have only ever helped to promote them, said nice things in them, and have never done anything wrong.
So there's that.
4754118
Well I did unban you from my groups and restored your admin status right after you unbanned me. Feel free to leave them.
4754394
Well you are excellent Insane Writers Guild admin material.
4754412
Thanks for your kind words.
4754442 The point isn't whether you unbanned me or not.
The point is that you literally banned me for no reason.
I never caused any trouble in your groups.
I in fact helped to promote your groups.
I only said nice things in your groups.
But you banned me regardless of the fact that I didn't do anything wrong.
The reason you got a 24 hour ban is because you had previously caused trouble in four or five threads (maybe more) and you were on your second strike, which comes with a 24 hour ban.
But I lifted the ban and was willing to give you another chance, despite everything you did.
Yet you decided to make a long post in my group explaining why you hate it and then making this blog post, further bashing my group.
No offense, but you are the one who caused the problems in the group and that is why you got two strikes and a ban.
There is nothing wrong with the group and it's kind of sad that you are making all of these forum posts and a blog post, despite being forgiven and having your contributor status restored.
Regardless of what you are doing to attack me, I still consider you to be my friend and will only say nice things about you and your groups.
That's all I can really say at this point.
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Well I could not have you in my groups while I was banished from your group. And the reasons why I was really banned just showed that your group is officially enemies of my groups, therefore it would have been very stupid of me to have a admin from the enemy group to be in my groups and especially with an admin status. None of the creeps who attacked me got banned. It was them, not me who started those arguments and yet I was the one who got banned and betrayed. You unbanning me and giving me back my Contributor status does not mean anything to me when I am just one disagreement with Disney away from a permanent ban from your group. Therefore in order to avoid the third strike I had to remain silent and not participate in your group. The only difference between being outside of the group and being inside of your group under such conditions is that me being in your group will only result in my notifications getting clogged up with the threads from your group.
4754455 No one was thinking of banning you after your ban was lifted. If you don't cause arguments in threads and follow the group rules, you have no reason to be banned.
And by the way, we have unbanned people in my group before (such as tech priest) who have gotten three strikes because they have changed their behavior since their outbursts so they were let back in. We have very few people we have actually permanently banned.
Two of the people banned we have considered letting back in and are talking about it.
The rules of the group are very lenient. We rarely ban anyone.
The most we do is lock a thread or give a 24 hour ban every once in a while if the person doesn't listen to what the admins have said.
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Well the thing is that I don't know what is against the rules or not since your admins seem to only enforce them when it is convenient for them own agenda. Basically just simply saying things that are less than flattering towards Disney is against the rules of your group, but the punishment for those who viciously attack those who are against Disney get treated a lot more leniently. And yes I seen all the comments in my goodbye thread in your group, including a very long and venom filled comment from LightOfTriumph. Now that is the real LightOfTriumph that I know, bitter, petty, and angry, just like when I was forced to end my friendship with him. And poor TheSkeletonWithNoName had to delete his comment in that thread because he still supports me. At least it is nice to know that there are still people that care about me.
4754466 Our group rules are all in this thread here: https://www.fimfiction.net/group/207724/the-insane-creators-guild/thread/180461/the-rules-and-places-to-promote-your-work
And they are enforced consistently, with everyone (not just you).
The reason you got in trouble was not because you don't like Star Wars.
It is because you attacked group members personally in threads, and that is against not only the group rules but also the site rules.
For example; people simply made a statement that they liked the new Star Wars franchise.
And then you called them mind controlled zombies or accused them of working for Disney or something.
And by the way, the people you called mind controlled zombies aren't mind controlled in the least. They just happen to like something you don't.
And no one in my group is part of the Illuminati or part of Disney or even works for Disney.
So your statements aren't true in the least. :L
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But it is okay for the pro Disney people including some of your admins to insult people like me all the time. Just look at the vicious things that are being said about me in my goodbye thread.
4754481 No one said anything vicious about you or to you. Most people just said, well okay, bye. A few people countered what you had stated in your good bye post. In other words, that most of your complaints were unfounded and that you were in fact the person who was attacking people for liking Disney movies in the threads (not the other way around).
Many people in the group were frustrated by your posts, again not because you don't like Disney (or the new Star Wars). It is because you would flat out attack anyone who supported Disney or the new Star Wars in the forum posts. This caused many people to get frustrated because they were just giving an opinion on something they liked, while you on the other hand were attacking them on a personal level just because they liked something. Which is again against not only the group rules but the site rules in general.
The tone of your good bye post was rather condescending and unfairly throwing everyone in the group under the bus, so to speak. So it is understandable that some people would disagree with what you posted, especially about the group which is actually one of the most laid-back groups on Fim Fiction.
If you look at the member list there are literally only two people who are banned out of over 800. So we are obviously not very strict about things.
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You are such a liar. LightOfTriumph always hated me and always will and his comment in my goodbye thread proves it. You got members of your group saying things that all those who criticise Disney are just "bitter fanboys" and some of them even said that they don't care about the thousands of jobs lost because of the Disney takeover of 20th Century Fox and yet none of them got the treatment I got. There is a deep pro Illuminati pro Disney bias in your group and we all now it.
4754495 There is literally no conspiracy against you by the admins. There are a few admins who I suppose had some drama with your outside of my group, but that has nothing to do with my group or your behavior in it.
The problem comes from your own actions, not whether you like Disney or Star Wars or not.
The admins would have never cared if you didn't start arguments and call people out in the group threads in the first place. That's the truth.
There are an equal amount of people who like Disney and Star Wars and don't like Disney and Star Wars in the group. Either way, it is just the opinions of those group members. Everyone is entitled to those opinions.
I personally respect everyone's opinion. I respect that you don't like Star Wars or Disney. I respect that other group members do like Star Wars and Disney. It's just a difference of opinion. There is no need to personally attack people just because they either like or don't like something.
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And yet nobody gets punished when me and other anti Disney people like Sanquine Eyes get personally attacked. And where were you when the admins where give me these strikes? You should have warned me about them but you did not. And since when calling out Disneynites is against the rules when the Disneynites insult people who don't think like them is somehow rewarded with Contributor status?
4754513 No one should be insulting anyone else over an opinion. If something like this is going on in the group, it needs to be reported to the group admins.
I am not always on the site and I don't always see everything that happens in every thread.
If someone reports a thread to me, I tell the people involved to stop arguing/ causing problems. And if they continue to cause issues I lock the thread.
The other group admins do the same.
No one has any problems with what Sanguine Eyes posted, as far as I know.
The only problem people had was when you started attacking them personally in the threads just because they had a different opinion. :L
Sanguine Eyes made a post about snuggling people today and everyone just snuggled him and other people in the thread. No one is mad at him at all. :L
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Well me and Sanguine Eyes got attacked by Cynical Brony recently and Sanquine Eyes responded to that bully in the manner he deserves.
4754524 Sanguine Eyes never told me he was attacked. If he was attacked, he should have sent me a private message, directing me to the thread where he felt he was ganged up on, and I would have taken care of the issue.
That is the thing. I can't do anything to moderate a thread if I don't know what the issue is. And like I said, I am not always online, so people kind of need to direct my attention to the thread where they feel things are going wrong.
I can't moderate a thread (and neither can the other group admins by the way) that someone doesn't bring to our attention to moderate. :L
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Maybe he did not want to get punished like me. Go find the last Star Wars thread that was locked and you'll find where me and Sanguine Eyes got bullied by Cynical Brony.
4754542 I saw a thread where Sanguine Eyes posted and it mostly just looks like he was joking. It didn't seem like he was attacked at all. If he had an issue, again, he should have brought this to the attention of either me or one of the other group admins.
No one in the group should feel like they are being attacked. But I looked at the Star Wars threads and it mostly just looked like he was joking. So I don't see what you are talking about.
Again, today he made a thread about snuggling. I think if he really had that big of an issue, he wouldn't have made a snuggle thread. He's gotten along with pretty much everyone in the threads since the Star Wars thread. He hasn't argued with anyone or acted like he is upset at all. :L
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Are you sure that you went to this thread because it is very obvious that Cynical Brony was spoiling for a fight in it.
https://www.fimfiction.net/group/207724/the-insane-creators-guild/thread/345096/star-wars-episode-7-high-detail-break-down
4754555 Cynical Brony never attacked him. He was just discussing his views about the subject. I don't see anything in the thread that indicated Sanguine Eyes was attacked whatsoever.
Actually it more looks like you and Sanguine Eyes started to attack him in the thread, just because he gave an opinion.
Cynical Brony Said: "Which is why you don't list any sources. Regardless, I don't really give a fuck about what producers or such say. The film, on its own merits, has nothing political about it unless you intentionally put it in a political scope.
The fact is, you're screaming in the dark. "
- In other words, he just mentioned that he doesn't care what the producers say. He just likes the film for its own merits.
Sanguine Eyes Said: "but Cynical up there seems to think I'm a racist homophobic Misogynist for daring to say such heresy against the SJW inquisition."
- Um...Sanguine Eyes is wrong. Cynical just said he didn't care what the producers said. he still likes the movie.
Cynical Brony Said: "what the actual fuck
Never once called you any one of those things. You are genuinely out of your mind, mate."
- Cynical could have said this a better way, but he's right. He never said what Sanguine accused him of.
Sanguine Eyes said: " like it and therefore you are hitler! REEEEEEEEEEEEE!!"
"You don't cite your sources even though I can do a ten second google search to find out the truth! I win I WIN IWINIWINIWINREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
"You're wrong because I said so my citation is the undeniable fact that I am right because I am right!"
Give it a few more REEEEEEEEE's and I might listen... but only because its hilarious."
- It kind of seems like Sanguine Eyes is egging him on, just because Cynical said he didn't care what the producers said and likes the movie for its own merit.
ProMonarchyGenius (you) said: "Oh that's because he is a butthurt SJW and possibly a Disney employee too. He even supported Disney's ban on Slave Leia merchandise for God's sake."
- Um...Cynical never claimed to be an SJW at any point. He literally just said he liked the films on their own merit. That's all.
Sanguine Eyes said: "It's just sad... how could the human race produce such an absolute abortion of a human being?"
- That is kind of too far in my opinion. Why is Cynical an abortion of a human being just because he likes the new Star Wars movies? That is moving into attacking him on a personal level which is against the group rules and the site rules.
ProMonarchyGenius (you) said: "I think that drinking during pregnancy may be one of the reasons why he is the way he is."
- Okay...that is outright attacking some one in a thread which is again not only against the group rules, but the site rules.
In conclusion, I can see why this thread was locked. The conversation wasn't productive and actually the two of you were attacking Cynical just for having a different opinion. :L
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Edit: Huh, I thought you blocked me a long time ago. I only tried posting this as a test.
4754581 The point is that threads in the group are usually locked for a good reason. Either some arguing has taken place in the thread, or the thread has devolved into a shouting fest, or the people in the thread are attacking each other on a personal level. We never lock any threads for any reason other than there are some rules being broken in them, and the people have not stopped arguing or whatever, despite being told to stop by the group admins.
We also rarely lock any threads. The only reason we had a streak of locking threads in the last few weeks or something is because the same people kept causing issues in them. But if you look back in time there are literally no threads locked. :L
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Saquine Eyes and me knows what kind of person Cynical Brony is. He always get triggered at anything that is not flattering towards Disney. Cynical Brony has personally attacked me in the past, but it is okay for him to do that since he is an admin who blindly defends Disney.
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I thought I blocked you years ago. Oh well. I guess I have to block you now.
4754593 I haven't seen any examples of Cynical attacking you in my group.
Any drama that happens outside of my group is outside of my control.
I can't judge people based on what they do in other groups. That is dishonest and unfair.
I can only judge what happens in my own group.
As far as I can tell, in my particular group, I have never seen any drama with you or the other admins. The only time they get involved is when a thread is getting out of hand, and they lock it.
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Well your admins bring up past drama from outside of your group to the inside. And yes Cynical Brony did attacked me 2 years in another group all because I opposed Disney's ban on Slave Leia merchandise. What I said in Saquine Eyes's thread about him is true. Go talked to Liberty Prime about that fight between me an Cynical Brony over the Slave Leia merchandise ban from 2 years ago.
4754608 I am sorry that you guys have had arguments in other groups about things in the past. I genuinely am.
But this has nothing to do with my group.
And my group rules state not to start drama or bring up drama with other site members or bring up things that have happened in other groups.
So whatever is going on between you and Cynical is something that needs to be resolved outside of the group.
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Here is the thing, but Cynical Brony is the one who blocked me first. So the only means of communication I can have with him is that I have to reply to a comment from him and we have to be members of the same group too. And as you can see Cynical Brony has a blind hatred towards me and anyone else like me who is against censorship and puritanism. Therefore me and him can never be on good terms. And to make things worse is that Cynical Brony is very close friends with LightOfTriumph, gamexpert1990, and Liberty Prime and they agree with almost everything with each other. How can I remain in a group with people like that are in charge of it. And the other Disneynites in the group know the situation with the admins is like and that is why they are so emboldened to attack people like me. Which is the real reason why your group has so many fights. For God's sake I had one thread that was locked even though no actual fight had broken out in it.
4754656 The Cynical Brony might have some issues with you and you might have some issues with him (I don't know about your conflict outside of the group so I can't really say much).
However, that has nothing to do with how the admins run the group.
They just look for threads where it looks like something is going wrong and moderate it. The only reason a thread ever gets locked is because an argument or something else that is against the group rules is going on it in, and they have asked the people to stop and they don't. So at that point, the thread gets locked. There has literally never been any other reason a thread has been locked in the group.
As for you and Cynical Brony; you guys could always talk to each other in other groups. But I would prefer that the drama is not brought to my group as it is against the group rules.
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I don't think that it is possible for me and Cynical Brony to work things out with each other. There is too much bad blood between me and him. Do you remember back when people were making those "What do you think of me?" threads in your group a while back? Well I made one of those threads and Cynical responded to it with a bunch of insults towards me.
4755091 I understand that the two of you have a lot of issues with one another. And I respect that the two of you don't get along the best.
If there are any threads where something like you described is going on they should definitely be sent to me or another admin so the thread can be moderated.
Again, I don't always see everything that goes on in the group because I am not always online. If something happens when I am not online, I don't have any way of knowing what has gone on unless someone sends me a link to the thread where there is an issue.
In any case I would prefer that people who don't get along keep their drama out of the group by not responding to each other's posts and reporting any threads where it seems like someone is trying to start drama with them.
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Well I did report to you what Cynical said to me back then. And I did it because what he said to me was very unadmin like. And to set the record straight I don't start fights unless just the act of posting a thread that does not flatter Disney counts as starting a fight. Some of my enemies like ObsidianPony and Hellblazer ignored you when you told them to leave my threads alone. I make those threads to warn people about the downside to Disney's growing power. I am really started to think that my enemies deliberately go to my threads and start fights in them just to justify locking them up so that way nobody else has the chance to reply to what I have to say in a civilised manner.
4755115 The threads were locked because the arguments got out of hand in them. I don't think anyone in the group was specifically going after you. People tend to have very strong opinions about Disney or Star Wars, so any time the topics are brought up, there will be some people arguing about something related to the franchises.
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Well then they should learn how to control the urge to argue with me. They should know that not everybody has to agree with them 100% all the time.
4755403 I think it is good for everyone to debate things in a calm manner and have in-depth discussions about a topic rather than a heated argument. Those types of threads are never productive anyway.
4755407
Did you say that all my contributions to your group were "not productive"? Thanks for telling that I was useless to your group.
4755415 I never said that. :L
I actually think you made a lot of interesting threads that I enjoyed reading.
And you shared a lot of content that I enjoyed as well.
I was just saying that in general it is good when things can stay on topic and not devolve into an argument.
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Well it is not my fault that my threads go off topic when people get triggered in them because they are unable accept different opinions. Do you think that this thread getting locked was fair to me?
https://www.fimfiction.net/group/207724/the-insane-creators-guild/thread/344611/the-latest-spoilers-for-star-wars-the-last-jedi-apparently-are-true
4755427 The topic discussion started out good. It seemed like most of the people wanted to see the film for themselves and draw their own conclusions rather than listen to the critics. Which seems fair.
But Star Wars is one of those topics that is always going prompt someone to chime in from one side of the debate or other. I wish I had known about this thread. I would have kept a better eye on it.
To be honest, threads about certain topics do need to be monitored so that they don't devolve into arguments.
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I did give you the link to that thread before in a PM when it first got locked but you seemed to ignored it. In that thread Jarvy Jared seemed to be looking for a fight in it since he came to a spoiler thread and yet did not want to see any spoilers and demanded that I make a college paper just for his amusement. Yes all threads relating to Star Wars, Disney, and Fox should be closely monitored and it should be monitored by someone who does not have any personal grudges against any of the participants in the threads including the thread OP.
4755528 I did bring this up in the admin group. All of the admins are going to be actively looking for threads that could potentially trigger arguments and monitoring them more closely.
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Good. Also the admins themselves should not start or get involved in nasty arguments either and if they do, they should be held accountable just like regular members and contributors are.
4755534 Everyone in the group has the same consequences. Admins have also been told to stop doing things in threads before as well.
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Good.
4819951
You literally don't make any senses. Please speak English.