New Metroid Game Ideas? · 5:49am Dec 31st, 2014
Hey all!
As I'm working on chapter 31 (which is going smoothly by the way) I was thinking back to a conversation I had with some readers where we were speculating on a new Metroid game. Of course, what happens after Fusion is anyone's guess, which is why the sequel to this story is going to take place as such. I have much more wiggle room in that respect. Another thought came up where, suppose I make the sequel and it's all fine and dandy, but suddenly Nintendo releases another Metroid game which consists of 'x, y, and z.' Greatest probability is that my story is no longer canon (and I doubt they'd add talking colorful ponies, at the very least). What then? Although, that's really not the question I want to answer.
My question is what could a new Metroid game comprise of? This is no longer tying two points in time together, this would be brand new material.
Thoughts?
One possibility: Fusion basically ends by showing that Metroids are dead. All of them. SR388 is gone, kaboom, and all the experimental Metroids with it. But what about the people behind those experiments? It was highly unethical science, trying to tamper with a species that has shown itself, time and time again, to be capable only of destruction. If the people behind the GSF's Metroid experiments are that unethical... what else would they stoop to?
Enter Ponies. They have MAGIC. This is not a normal occurrence in the galaxy. So maybe some ponies start to go missing...
Celestia is frantic over her missing subjects and Luna isn't far behind... and then Luna recalls her good friend Samus Aran. Perhaps it's time to offer her a bit of a job...
And no, I'm not stalking you to respond to this THIS fast. It was literally pure coincidence that I looked at my alerts right this minute.
Personally, I have no bloody clue. Maybe this is just me, but I REALLY liked the Metroid Prime Trilogy, as far as making a "prequel arc". Makes me miss Phazon, if you know how the third game ended,
2689756 Hahaha either way I like quick responses!
I like that idea and in fact I intend to use something similar. Essentially Samus would return to Equis after the Fusion incident and those behind said unethical sciences would be quick to act in retribution. Even as a regular game idea without my story, I'd expect the next installment of the franchise to be something similar, sans ponies of course.
2689770 Wait you mean she would be hunted by the Federation?
Oh dear, that would be bad indeed.
2689768 Yeah I've played all the games (save super Metroid since I haven't been able to get ahold of a damn SNES). The Prime Series was golden through and through. I loved each of those games, though I thoroughly wished that Nintendo made a Gamecube version of Prime 3... getting used to the Wiimote was an irritating experience.
2689777 Not necessarily the 'Feds' in entirety. After all, Metroids and their experimentation are banned in their purview. I'd say those who had significant power and were in on the whole scheme from the Bottle Ship all the way to BSL Station (who command decent weight) would be after her, which would still cause problems.
Honestly I have no idea. The Metroids I've played, aside from Fusion and Corruption to a degree, weren't all that in depth on story IMO. It amounted to "go from A to B to kill monster X." I'm not saying that is a bad thing per se as I enjoyed all the Metroid games I've played so far. That being said I really just want the next Metroid game to be something similar to Metroid Prime using a few features from the later prime games such as the Screw Attack and the much better Scan Visor introduced in Echoes. Other bits from the later games can stay gone. I hated the limited ammo in Echoes and for Corruption I feel like the controls weren't as fluid and that the bosses felt more like bullet sponges rather than challenges.
Here's an idea for a sequel Metroid game that will blow your socks off.
The people behind the Metroid experiments who wanted the SA-X...they obviously are amoral and not above cloning living weapons (up to and including sapient beings, if you include Other M's using the Zebezians to recreate Space Pirates), and that surgery on Samus that removed hunks of Power Suit - and gave her the Metroid Vaccine - is bound to have some samples left over. And cloning has already been proven viable...
So what if they decide that, if Samus is such an effective weapon, they want one of their own? So they create a clone of Samus.
That's who you play as in the first section of the game, going through that group's idea of basic training...which is grueling and hellish.
But then the spirit of Grey Voice finds her when she needs emotional comfort the most...and sees a chance to make up for his sins of the past with Samus and the Space Pirates. So he gives her a Chozo Power Suit, and guides her to freedom.
That's the second arc of the game, playing as a new Chozo Warrior getting on the job training from a Chozo Ghost as you learn not just how to use the Power Suit's abilities, but how they work...all while running from the group that made you...until Grey Voice guides you to Samus to complete your training. (Note: the clone you're playing as is no older than 15 physically, and a lot younger intellectually).
Then comes the final arc of the game. You continue to play as the clone, now guided by the original. You work together on team missions (bonus after game content involves playing as Samus for those sections with all her power ups) in order to take down the group that made you once and for all, so that you both can be free.
A successful game ends with your character looking out at the stars from Samus' lap as she guns the engines of her ship...and Samus smiles as she ruffles your character's hair.
What do you think of that?
2689797 This motherfucker...
How are you not working for movie or game development for major companies? (Unless you are, then I'm certainly not surprised). Aside from the last part (as I'm sure there would not be as much difference in height) I can see all of that happening. It's pretty much the SA-X ordeal but without the power suit... though I think there would have to be quite a few more channels to go through in order to clone actual humans, more than would be allowed in order to brush aside bureaucracy.
But Jesus Christ take my money! You have a gift, don't squander it!
2689789 Yeah I used to hate the ammo system as well but then I appreciated the new dynamic as it forced you to make your shots count and rely on the power beam much more (which I became grateful for). I'm sure there would be some new dynamic that hopefully isn't radical like in Other M, though they had the right idea... t'was just poor execution.
2689778 WHAATTT, you havent played Super Metroid!!!
For shame, Flamey, for shame.
2689810 I should edit my words: played completely*. I went through a good majority of it but not all of it. I had friends who had old SNESs lmao
2689808 For me the ammo system discouraged me experimenting or even using the weapons for fear of never having them "when I may need them." This basically amounted to me playing 90% of the game with the Power Beam only. I had this stance going from Mass Effect 1 to Mass Effect 2 and the same stance here going from, well, any Metroid game compared to Echoes: You can't go from infinite ammo to finite, it just doesn't work.
2689797 Also you have to take into account whether that clone will behave EXACTLY like Samus? Clone, by definition, implies identical DNA but does that necessarily constitute to the same behavioral instinct? She'd look like Samus, she'd talk like Samus... but would she necessarily think and act like Samus?
2689814 True, but you had the ability to resupply rather easily. There were adequate amounts of ammo resupply rooms around Aether and the simple rule of 'shoot with light to get dark beam ammo' and vice versa created a unique dynamic in my opinion.
2689778 Well, Corruption had 3 sensitivity settings for the Wiimote, you know. And there's the Trilogy Edition, which brings all 3 games into the Wiimote controls, and adds the harder difficulties that Corruption had onto the previous two.
Which also means that Prime 2 gets Wiimote multiplayer,
Anywho, if you're going to make a plot that happens after Fusion, it would be hard to call it "Metroid" anymore; if the Metroids are now extinct, then you lose the effect of the name. On the other hand, you could call it something different, and say it's a "chronological successor" or something.
They can't release anything after fusion.
Gumpei Yokoi is dead, and there hasn't been a new movie in the Aliens series for years. Alien: Colonial Marines and Alien: Isolation open the door to a Metroid movie, but there won't be any games that advance the story line.
If I could hazard a guess, though? I my expectation would have been that expected Pirates or Galactic Federation would start cloning Metroids again and attempting to repeat the success they had with Samus, while Samus started suffering side effects from her new biology (Specifically, Metroid cells being aggressive and starting to convert her body). Samus would be forced to search out the Chozo's contingency for this exact improbable circumstance in order to fix her body.
The Galactic Federation is stupid, but not stupid enough to actually act against Samus. She's too resourceful, resilient, and destructive for them to risk any action that could turn her against them. Even if they were interested, their chances of killing her would be abysmal and anything less would invariably result in her utterly destroying them. They're amoral and unethical, but they tend to be practical about things.
Sure, they'll try to manipulate her and apply pressure, but at the end of the day when she has destroyed their secret projects and set back their plans? Unless she actually turns and starts trying to attack them they're going to write-off the loss and try to convince her it was all a horrible mistake that won't happen again. After all, she's too valuable an asset for them to ruin, and if the occasional secret lab or skunkworks project gets destroyed after it already went sideways? Well, keeping it out of the wild or the hands of space pirates is almost as good as keeping it themselves, and that's what backups are for.
I don't remember how many times she's destroyed GalFed's messes or plans, but Fusion wasn't the first.
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That's the thing.
She won't.
They'll program her with the intent of turning her into the perfect weapon, but the Chozo telepathic abilities make her too empathic, and that creates the mental torment that leads Grey Voice to her aid.
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As for the difference in height issue, if she's too tall to sit in Samus' lap, she can be sitting next to her, and Samus reaches over to ruffle her hair.
2689894 Would the clone be barren/infertile too? Chozo DNA and all that jazz.
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...debatable.
I don't know why, exactly, Samus is barren/infertile, as that's the first I've heard of it. However, the only possible reason that would be the case is because she got the gene-jacking after birth, which screwed with her reproductive code.
The clone, however, would have it from the moment of conception, straight through to the accelerated growth to puberty. So by any logic, she'd be fertile unless the ones who made her deliberately made her otherwise.
2689964 It's purely due to something not mixing well between human DNA and Chozo DNA. Why do you think she obsessed over the death of the Baby Metroid that saved her? Because canonically, she's barren.
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Yeah I just assumed she was sterile, myself. It makes sense in retrospect.
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If you're referring to her behavior in Other M, that's a separate continuity from the rest of the games, based on a comic series from Japan.
However, that tidbit does make Samus accepting the clone as a daughter all the more realistic. And if the mix works well in utero...then Samus might even get grandbabies!
Oh gods...picture growing up with Samus Aran as your Grandma.
2689966 It makes Other M surprisingly realistic, don't it? Emotionally crippled soldier, loses the closest thing she'd ever have to a child.
2689967 Actually, Other M and Fusion are part of the same Verse, and Fusion mentions a few other ones, so no, Other M isn't strictly a separate thing.
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...not really. Considering that timeline wise, she'd fought Ridley seven times and killed him five times, there was no reason for her to have a breakdown just because he shows up again.
2689972 Who mentioned Ridley? I'm talking about the jacked up genetics that are canon in every game, but rarely mentioned outside the comics.
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Actually, they aren't. The makers of Other M stated officially that it's based in the comics and not the games and what they're based in. Other M is a separate continuity, and not canon to Fusion.
2689975 Doesn't change the fact her genetics are jacked up canonically. Or that Other M was the first actual 3D METROID game. Rather than a 3D game with MetroidVania properties.
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I'm saying the reason Other M wasn't realistic was the emotional state they gave Samus. It's understandable she'd be mourning over and focused on the baby Metroid...but the rest of it was way too much. If anything, her reaction to seeing Ridley should have been rage - blaming him for the baby Metroid's death - and trying to rib his bits off with her bare hands.
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What does the gene jacking have to do with her emotional state? Emotionally, she's still a human...just with problems most humans never encounter.
2689978 ugh....tell me, wouldn't YOU be emotionally fucked up after your adopted child killed itself to save you? If Yes. I rest my case. I'm not saying anything more than she took it exceptionally hard.
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I'm in agreement that it's something that would hit her hard...
Except that she never showed any motherly concern for the infant Metroid in the games. As soon as it imprinted on her, she took it back to the Federation, handed it over to scientists, and left without a second thought...only returning because she was in range when the distress signal went off, and then in pursuit as much because it was Ridley as because of the infant Metroid.
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Everyone in the world agrees on two things:
1. Oxygen is a good thing.
2. Other M fucking sucked and should be utterly ignored by anyone with half a brain.
That said, could you two stop pissing back and forth about a game most people want to forget exists? Metroid Prime was the first 3D Metroid game, not that...abomination.
Any new game in the series will throw that abortion under the bus.
i liked other m.... *death glares* eeep!
anyways, i would actually like to see a prequel game. where samus is still young training with the chozo and in the GF army. and, just saying, any future game can still be called metroid. because samus IS the metroid now! after all, the word metroid in the chozo language means Ultimate Warrior.... chozo built the troids to kill all the X... which is exactly what samus did.
2690058 Sorry to break it to you, but Metroid is not meant to be an FPS. That's why I consider Other M to be the first 3D Metroid that actually stayed true to it's roots.
Insert dark samus here!
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Good thing Metroid Prime was a First Person Adventure/Platformer then, just like evey other Metroid game has been an Adventure/Platformer. It is a Metroid game played in first-person perspective, and Metroid games are not Shooters at their core.