The Conversion Bureau - The Return of the King
Suspicious Minds by Dan's Comments
Disclaimer: My Little Pony is the property of Hasbro, Inc.
Godzilla is the property of Toho Company Ltd.
The glow from the Tree of Harmony was dimmer still. Discord smiled. "So, Harmony means the crushing of all dissent? Rampant chaos caused you to act. Now you see what rampant Harmony and order will do. I must say, simply standing out of the way and giving you everything you desired has paid greater dividends than fighting you."
The glow of the tree dimmed further.
"The humans, they had an entertainment with a spectacular recurring character. The same entertainment had a recurring villain. Do you know what this most hated and feared enemy's war cry was? Not 'exterminate', because death would be an end. It was 'you will be assimilated'. All hope was stripped away, and you'd be made to serve the ones who destroyed you. The entire army composed of nothing but those mentally screaming at their endless rape of spirit and soul. Celestia has taken the first step and it was like a sip of water in a desert. She'll want to bring all into your light. To force all to submit, and be harmonious. To serve the goddess over all. Even death will not be a bar to Harmony."
The light of the Tree of Harmony faded more.
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Twilight went over the equations again as she fluttered before her chalkboard. Unicorn Spike kept moving in case she got tired, and Rarity dragon was moving with him with the grace and artistry of a dancer. Twilight would lecture Spike on how he used to make Rarity feel, now that he was on the receiving end. But he's not taking advantage, she thought, Good for him.
"It is impossible for such a creature to even exist," she pronounced and let the small piece of chalk down. "It would burst like a balloon if we could use the Elements of Harmony on it."
She barely noticed Pinkie, Applejack and Fluttershy arriving. She did notice and was a bit glad they'd all resumed their normal appearance once the guards shut the doors. "So how did your idea go?"
"Discord has the, had the Elements," Fluttershy said, "Thanks Applejack, I like being myself again."
"Twern't nothing Fluttershy," Applejack said, "Little selfish on my part. I was startin' ta look at you that way. You're as handsome a buck as you are adorable a filly."
Fluttershy blushed but grinned.
"Why won't the Princess listen to us?" Pinkie asked, nearly tripped over Rainbow Dash, then realized Dash wasn't napping but wide awake. "Hey! I can give Dashie her wings back!" Pinkie said, and shied from Applejack and Twilight Breezy's stare. "With everypony's help of course."
"We aren't ponies anymore," Dash said.
Celestia arrived, and Twilight beamed as she displayed her work. "We can beat it, with the Elements. Once we get them."
"Ah, how misguided," Discord said as he arrived. He stared at the blackboards covered with Breezy-sized equations. He made a face and shook his head sadly. Then put it back on his neck.
Twilight looked from the equations to his dull expression and back. "What is it? What do you see!?" she demanded as she glared at him.
Discord sighed and looked at Celestia. "I see a rather dim child throwing a tantrum that the sparkly toy doesn't work after she murdered the previous owners, and that her betters somehow took their secrets to the grave." He looked at Celestia as she glared back at him, then he told Twilight, "That's what I see. A master parasite, a maggot feeling superior for feeding off a corpse."
Twilight was shocked, both with his comments, and that he had voiced such a low opinion of Princess Celestia.
"I have nothing to lose, more than I've already lost," Discord said to Twilight, "You weren't picked by Her Highness for your brilliance. Like her, you are a rather dull intellect. You were selected for your credulity and pliability to be molded by Her Highness. There's nothing special about you. She wanted a protegee incapable of asking the hard questions and thinking any thoughts Her Highness didn't put in there." He pointed at her head. "Your expertise in magic is that of a superb mechanic. Well able to play the notes, but unable to make the music. There is no original philosophy to anything you do or think." He gestured at the blackboard Twilight had spent hours slaving over. "Everything is a mere technical exercise of fitting it into the right box. The creativity, the ability to play with ideas or even new realms of knowledge is lacking in you."
Discord pointed at the others as they glared or growled at him. "She would have never picked Rarity, because a quick mind like that would wonder about the interplay of things she had never tried before. Would wonder about exceeding what had been done before or striking out into territories untrod by others. She wouldn't have picked Blueblood, who would always have space in his heart for himself and would wonder how something would redound on him. She wouldn't have Pinkie Pie or Applebloom, for whom play, and new ideas and experiences are to be embraced and mixed with existing lessons to create the new and unexpected."
Discord stared at Twilight as she withered under the lash of his scorn. "You merely want to understand what your betters have done. You are exactly who and what Celestia wants, a clockwork wind-up toy who will do as and only what she's told, will go as far as ordered but no farther, and will never demand any explanations or information beyond what has been provided. Applejack and Rainbow Dash I had to crush under the full weight of their Elements. Rarity I had to beguile with her love of beautiful things. Fluttershy and Pinkie Pie I had to twist into a mirror opposite of who they were. But you, all I had to do was change the rules, and you flew apart like an overwound watch. It wasn't until Celestia retaught you all the things you supposedly learned on your own, then you recovered."
Twilight was near tears at the leaden delivery, and that Celestia hadn't spoken in her defense. Even Spike stared in pity at the Breezy and in fury at Discord.
"All of this is wrong, and meaningless, because it stems from an underlying lie," Discord said.
"Discord," Celestia said angrily.
"Oh please, even if I tell them, will they remember? Poor Dash seems the only one who is starting to remember. That airliner full of refugees."
Dash whimpered and drew her tail tighter around her body.
"But Pinkie and Applejack don't remember setting out food for starving fugitives, then potion bombing them while they ate. Twilight doesn't remember what she led her brother into against that group of tanks, or what she did to that team of operatives who were immune to the regular potion. Or what happened to all those scientists, ponies and humans, who were trying to develop a reversal formula. Poor Lyra and poor Trixie trying to reach 'the real you' or your 'better nature' while you were destroying them. Never realizing they were seeing the real you the entire time," Discord laughed as all the others stared at him in horror. "Poof, all gone, scrubbed clean."
Twilight felt a growing horror. She looked to Unicorn Spike, who wasn't looking at any pony in the room, but staring at the tip of his tail as is it were the most important thing there was.
Discord gestured at the chalkboards. "Do you wish any further help with your problem? I need to fix lunch." He stared at her. Waited until she shook her head. When she did, he excused himself.
"My Little Ponies," Celestia said quietly, "Don't believe his lies. Sowing discord is what he does."
Twilight smiled as she fluttered up to her equations and began spelling out her plan.
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In the kitchen, Fluttershy confronted me. It made me glad she was my friend, and that it gave me a way to undo what Celestia had done to her and the others.
"Discord, why did you do that?" She glared at me.
"Because she wants what was never hers and demands the humans assist with her quest," Discord said, "None of you deserve what the intellectuals among the Newfoals know. And demanding they give it to you is not going to change their minds."
"What are you talking about?!" Fluttershy demanded as I made the sandwiches. Each pony got their favorites.
"Celestia told all of Equestria that humans couldn't survive here, because of the high magic? How did ponies survive there? How did drab nothings like Jet Set and Upper Crust, to say nothing of Flim and Flam suddenly become tank busters? How did mediocre fliers like Cloudkicker suddenly become able to dodge missiles coming in at mach five? Because Earth is filled to bursting with magic. Humans would starve to death if they came here. The reason they're so advanced is because they can imagine like blank-flank children, and organize better than Twilight. That's their magic. Are you honestly telling me that you, who has tea parties with bears, and pulls thorns from the paws of angry manticores, couldn't come up with a better solution for saving the humans than extermination? Please, my friend Fluttershy may be timid, but she's not stupid."
"No," Fluttershy said.
"Do you know why every Newfoal, every one, holds their foals close when you walk by? Or most when they just see you?"
"No," Fluttershy pleaded.
"Because you specialized in children," Discord told her.
"No," Fluttershy said and shied back.
"Oh, you were convinced that making them ponies was the kindest thing you could do for them. But even after the conditioning the Newfoals get, they still remember 'child-stealer'."
"No," Fluttershy said and shook her head, "I wouldn't." She raised her head. "Why are you doing this?"
"For the same reason I took the Elements and put them . . . never mind. I don't want you as part of the cannon fodder for Celestia's new war. Dash is starting to remember all the things that happened, all the terror, all the blood, and how joyous you were to be agents of it all. The Newfoals could have created a Krell machine to show all you ponies, all at once, what you're really like inside, but they didn't. They did not assist those who exterminated their culture for the crime of being nonequine in destroying themselves. They summoned a protector, one willing to negotiate and be gentle, to a point. Think about that. Ninety-thousand tons, ex nilhio, out of nothing. Completely alien biology, psychology and it all works. The Elements would be useless except to make him angry, and single you all out as targets."
Fluttershy had gone beyond tears into stunned incredulity by this point.
I knelt down and took her cheeks in my hands. "Fluttershy, I know it hurts, but understand, this is for the best. This is like cutting flesh to pull out an infested splinter. Except this splinter is in your mind, and the minds of your friends. Rainbow got hers pulled when she got transformed, and she may never recover. You and I are going to have to pull it out for the others. And it's going to hurt, and hurt a lot, if you're going to save Equestria."
"Save it?" Fluttershy asked.
"Do you think the other nations are going to accept being ponyfied? Do you think Celestia is going to stop with the humans?" I asked, "The Newfoals' protector just needs to know there's more people to protect than he was summoned to. That's what you and Applejack need to do."
Fluttershy nodded. "I - need to lie down."
"Can you take the sandwiches?" I handed her the platter and let her go.
4823271 I just don't hear the love.
4823271 Why is it that people can't realise that it's called mercy killing for a REASON?
Death is NOT a punishment, it's the ultimate means of getting out of having to face the consequences of your actions. Pain comes in many forms after all.
But life? Life, now THERE is the ULTIMATE means of torture and dispair
So, the way to destroy that parasitic plant known as the "tree of harmany" is to give it what it wants? Good thing to know if I ever end up in Equestria. For the good of the world!
Well, that's a dark take on things. Thought it does explain why Godzilla talked about numerous atrocities committed yet the ponies didn't seem to even think about them again. Looking forward to more.
So, is Spike aware of what happened and scared into silence or something? Or is he remembering something he did?
Praise Discord!
4823683 There is a dark tag. It's a great way to cleanse the conscience, and prevent PTSD. Massacring pleading parents had to be a terrible strain, not, it's not a problem.
4823695 Spike is aware of all of what happened, and how happy his friends were at doing it.
4823699 No applause just throw cheese wheels.
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Wonder if he'll have the cajones to back up Discord's truth, or have Celestia breathing down his neck
4823759 Considering Rainbow's reaction to remembering it all, he'll probably keep his mouth shut. Celestia and Discord not withstanding, it's Twilight and Rarity he cares about and he wouldn't want them reduced to Rainbow's condition, even temporarily.
Dude, love your version of Discord as a seemingly-random-yet-skilled-schemer!
Still, no mention from either Godzilla or Discord about helping humans to regain, if not their original form, at least their mindset.
The Tree of Harmony is losing power because Celestia's half baked plans are disrupting the balance of the universe.
P.S.
4823807 The beginning of Chapter 6, university libraries have just piles of the most esoteric research on every subject the university teaches, as well as Master and Doctoral theses. Discord is enjoying playing this game.
4823856 The Tree of Harmony is becoming depressed. Discord is doing to it exactly what he did to Twilight.
Suspicious Minds - and this make you think . . . what?
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I suspect the Tree of Harmony is related to the Tree of Genesis and the Tree of Exodus from Zetsuen no Tempest.
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Ah, wasn't sure if it was a case of the girls being brainwashed into their "Wartime" selves, or if the Wartime them was real and the peacetime them was a fake mental construct.
4823871 Please continue suspecting that.
4823886 They fought a war that would have staggered veterans of the Eastern Front for its brutality. They were permitted to remember the human 'atrocities' but not their own which triggered them. So Spike got to see a mare he thinks of as his older sister, and a mare he loves, become complete monsters, then pop back to the people he cares about.
Why would Discord tell them about the atrocities they committed if he knows xenocelestia would just order them to forget?
Methinks there's a long game played here.
This might be my favorite Discord of any fan fic I've read. Loved the reference to the Borg. Surprised that this is the first time I've seen the Coversion compared to them.
So, based on this chapter, it seems like Fluttercorn at least is somewhat resistant to the mind effects of the Newfoal potion? At least when not in Celestia's presence, anyway? Good to know.
Is Luna as control-obsessed as Celestia in this story? Or is she unaware of Celestia's full monstrosity?
4824117 Rainbow remembers all of it due to the potion, Appleling, Flutercorn and Pinkiecord are all alicorn level beings, so they might be resistant. Spike was a dragon, and thus immune, so Rarity might also be immune. Besides, Celestia zapping all of them in front of Spike will alienate him further from his 'mother'.
4824135 Messed up is irrelevant, you will comply.
4824142 Thanks. Discord is always interesting. In the forums it's mentioned, and also in TVtropes.
As noted above, Discord is gambling that Fluttercorn, Pinkie Cord and Appleling are fully resistant. At lest until Celestia ups her game.
You are making the assumption that Luna is the one you're familiar with and not something that Celestia put together sometime in the past. The real question is, where did Celestia fall off the deep end? Fighting Sombra, fighting Discord, fighting Nightmare Moon, or before that? And what did she do to Luna when she did?
4824231 This version of Celestia calls everything into question that is considered canon, including the origins of Nightmare Moon and the conflict with Sombra. At the very least your comment implies that Luna really is just something she gets out of storage when she needs to put on the caring-sisters image.
Anyway this Discord makes for a great reading as he goes above and beyond what most people do with the character. And look at that, he's recruiting where Celestia is failing.
And of course the usual stuff.
4793427 1) eh, we must have different computers, there's nothing like that there on this one 2) aren't human languages meant to be written with human hands and pencils? Godzilla's a bit too T-Rex-ish to be able to write properly.
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4823584 Mothera saves the changelings?
Cause...pretty wings?
When Celestia's kingdom crumbles, and the newfoals rise against the oppression, this will be playing in the backround...
my guess the whole nightmare moon thing is nothing more than a cover up from Celestia of a time when Luna noticed her fall from harmony and decided to rebel, the whole eternal night was a move from Luna to weaken Celestia by removing the sun so she would stop her, then Celestia used the elements on Luna but before she could defeat her Luna escaped to her moon but being weakened by the elements she needed a whole millennia to fully recover from the battle, while Celestia lost the control of the elements as punishment for using em for her own gains and used that time to consolidate her control over equestria and prepare a new set of bearers for the elements, after nightmare moon defeat she had plenty of time to brainwash the weakened Luna to do as she wished
Wait, Ponies become Superman on Earth, yet they allowed Nature to kill them while trying to establish on pre-human Cities?
4829596 mayby gaia is finally pissedoff, and yes its existing a story about that.
Conversion Bureau: The Harshest Lesson(Teen) by The Harvester
Probably one of the best after-TCB-era stories I've read, I think. Lots of insightful dialogue and a reasoning for how the characters are acting, rather than just hand-waived that everypony is evil and psychopathic. Even Celestia's reasoning as described by Discord can be explained, evil and amoral as it is.