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Thought Prism


Founder of Thought Prism Games. Check out my work at thoughtprismgames.com!

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    Another Rising Flames Progress Update

    It'll probably be another two weeks before chapter four is ready, give or take. It's needed far more editing than any chapter so far, and also more than any chapter to follow, most likely. Actually, this single chapter has probably undergone more revisions than any other piece of fiction I've ever worked on. I went overboard on the original version due to my desire for drama, which led to drama

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  • 12 weeks
    Rising Flames Progress Update

    Just letting everybody know, it's going to be a bit longer before Chapter Three drops. In addition to refining our editing process to be more collaborative (I was letting my mindset from my game development work bleed into here, when my priorities with Rising Flames are very different), Spell Check and applezombi pointed out a bunch of issues with my outline that I've been diligently

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  • 15 weeks
    My new company: Thought Prism Games!

    I’ve got an exciting announcement today! Some of you might have been wondering what I’ve been up to outside the fanfic front, and now I’m ready to share at last. I am proud to announce and launch my new card game company: Though Prism Games! I have two fresh releases: Carddrop, a nifty little dexterity game to enjoy with regular playing cards, and Veebar, a fun two-player experience for all ages.

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  • 22 weeks
    Rising Flames Release Date!

    1/1/2024

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  • 28 weeks
    Free Giveaway of my book!

    Since it’s been over a year since release, and I don’t think anybody else is going to buy it at this point, I’ve decided to release my original fantasy novel from last year for free! You can read it right in dropbox here, or download the file. It’s an EPUB, so it’ll

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May
18th
2020

Dislikes: Why they're necessary, but should be renamed. · 2:27am May 18th, 2020

So, obviously, the pace at which people are putting new content onto the site has stagnated lately, for obvious reasons. Experimentally, I tried checking out Wattpad, to find more stories to read. And yet, most of what was rated highly and showcased on the site seemed mediocre at best. It was mainly stories from years ago that had many years to accumulate votes. I've encountered similar problems trying to find good reading material on Ao3 and the eponymous fanfiction dot net. That's one of the reasons why I'm still here. And, after comparing the websites themselves, one key difference (aside from the amazing fimfic featurebox system) stuck out to me. This possibly key factor to maintaining quality visible content is the dislike count.

Now, many people complain about dislikes on their stories. It can be demoralizing, even extremely aggravating. And yet, I think it's important we keep them around. For one, it helps avoid the above Wattpad situation, in that if a story isn't totally superb, it will pick up some small level of negative response once everybody is reading it. Moreover, more information is always better to have as a prospective reader. On Ao3, for instance, two stories might have the same number of kudos, but here, one might have just as many likes as dislikes. Then, you'd be less likely to pick it up only to be disappointed.

Which carries over into my next point. See, the biggest problem with having dislikes is that people will just click on a fic with a concept they don't like, drop a downvote, and immediately leave. This is common with certain unpopular ships, genres, or types of fetish erotica, I've noticed. People get it into their heads that if they dislike anything about the premise of a story, it's their duty to contribute to the red line. They way I've used the dislike feature for years now is more to express disappointment. IE: I thought I would like the story, but after a few chapters, it took a poor turn, or stagnated, or what have you. (If I realize I'm not going to like the story briefly after starting, mainly due to an abundance of typos or the author's writing style, I'll just leave without voting either way.) This is what I think we should start calling it: the disappointment count. That way, we retain all the good the feature can lead to while mitigating the feelbads. I'm curious to see what you guys think of all this.

~ Thought Prism

Comments ( 9 )

I think I've mostly just heard it called "Downvote" rather than "Dislike", actually. But I also almost never use it, and it sounds like already in a way similar to yours (with the only specific example I'm currently remembering indeed being an expression of disappointment and/or similar emotions at a story having an ending I felt really didn't fit with the rest of it, in a way I didn't like; the author and I then had a nice conversation about it, though, since I also left an explanatory comment, and said author is now one of my favorites (and not just on FIMFiction or in fanfiction but in general, I think)).

I also don't know that the renaming you propose would actually help, as I'm not sure how many people leaving drive-by downvotes would actually care what is was called; my impression is that your hypothesis of misunderstanding is not the most frequent motivation they have. Of course, that impression could be wrong, and I haven't actually encountered or thought of your hypothesis before to consider (though I also don't know how widespread referring to them as "dislikes" is).

Still, thank you for your efforts to improve things. :)

(And yeah, I read fanfiction primarily on FIMFiction, Ao3, Fanfiction.net-of-the-strange-linking-prohibitions, and Sufficient Velocity (albeit as a lurker), and I've indeed found FIMFiction to be very likely the best of the four in that experience.)
(Well, for ponyfic, obviously.)

No matter what you call them, some people are going to use them for an unintended purpose. I do like this philosophy towards downvotes; it'd just be tricky to redefine them on a sitewide scale and have everyone actually adhere to it.

That said, I'm glad you're still here. The more people who understand my Magic jokes, the better. :derpytongue2:

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Well, I'm glad you guys are still appreciative of my random output. :twilightsmile: I get the urge to write the darndest things sometimes.

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No problem. :)

I rarely ever hit the dislike button, ever. If I find I don't like a story I'll just stop reading.
I actually don't know if I've ever disliked a story.

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I think it's the best overall. It's got a much better interface than either ao3 or fanfic.net, and it's much easier to find quality stories thanks to stuff like the featured page.

I sort of feel like dislike and disappoint are too similar to warrant separation, And honestly, likes and dislikes are trivial compared to comments. For the creator, definitely, and even for readers, they can just read a little and see if they like it or not. I think the system is fine as is to be honest.

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Aye, I hedge a little in the comparison to Ao3 and particularly Sufficient Velocity, since I do so much less there... but I'm pretty sure it is, indeed, better than Ao3 at least, and of course Sufficient Velocity as a general forum is kind of a different thing, making comparison harder.
(With Fanfiction.net, on the other hoof... yeah, basically no contest there, I think. Fanfiction.net also has non-pony stories... and that's pretty much the only thing it has over or even really close to FIMFiction, I think.)

Yeah, I’ve rarely used the Downvote Disappointment, and even then my usage was similar to your own, I think. But I’m also aware that different folks will use the tools presented to them for different purposes, and so I take them with a small salt quarry.

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