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RainbowDoubleDash
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I think the L6 have held on to the Elements since At the Grand Galloping Gala., when they were knighted. Before that they were in Luna’s care. Unfortunately AtGGG is set before Crisis.

Although come to think about it I was never explicit about any of this, it was just sort of implied. So if you wanted you could write that Trixie and company did not hold on to the Elements until after the story you’re writing, with Trixie using the difficulty in getting the Elements in a timely way to convince Luna to let the L6 hold on to them.

Talon and Thorn
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Well obviously they were all sent back to Canterlot for their annual cleaning, it was just bad luck that Shocker divided to invade that week.

Is the Lunaverse and Fimfiction in general in danger of dying now that the show's over with?

Talon and Thorn
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Well going purely by site statistics the number of stories appearing on fimfiction has been fairly stable for the last 3-4 years and infact the number of new users had doubled over the last few month (maybe lockdown related) so I don't think Fimfiction is going anywhere in the short term anyway.

Overall I think things are about the same with the L-verse, it's not changed much in the last few years but it's still here but there's no real sign that's going to change soon. G & C 2 has just talked about putting up a new story (which I might be Betaing soon) so that's something to look forward to.

GrassAndClouds2
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G & C 2 has just talked about putting up a new story (which I might be Betaing soon) so that's something to look forward to.

Your beta-ing is always appreciated. :-) (RDD looked at it and said that he had a concern over a scene with one of your OCs, so I'm grateful that you've agreed to look at it too.)

Rixizu
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If I recall, RainbowDoubleDash said he'd continue the Lunaverse even if the group died. I believe he's working on a prequel story with Trixie and Tempest Shadow?

RK_Striker_JK_5
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Yeah. That's up and finished.

Rixizu
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So Starlight Glimmer shows up in the newest story I've been working on. In the backstory, Trixie and her friends found themselves in 'Our Town' and defeated Starlight as the Mane 6 did. This happened somewhere in season 1. I'm wondering if I should write a story about it to bridge the stories and create some more context. The problem is that I don't want to write the Cutie Map, only with Trixie and her friends with almost nothing changed.

Does anyone have some suggestions on how I might mix it up, and not make it a carbon copy? I was thinking the reason the Luna 6 find themselves in 'Our Town' is that a relative of the Luna 6 went missing and they're searching for them. Part of me wants to just start writing for fun and see how badly Trixie naturally derails things. Like, for example, five minutes into the story, Trixie accidentally breaks the Staff of Sameness.

Fizzy Orange
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You could emphasize the idea that the L6 have abilities that don't line up with their cutie mark so they completely destroy Starlight's creed about Cutie Marks?

Detectivefish
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Pretty sure I've asked this before (if not in this thread, then in one of the prior ones), but...
Is the mirror portal from EG around somewhere? Is Luna keeping it under lock and key in a Canterlot basement someplace?

Detectivefish
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Pretty sure I've asked this before (if not in this thread, then in one of the prior ones), but...
Is the mirror portal from EG around somewhere? Is Luna keeping it under lock and key in a Canterlot basement someplace?

Rixizu
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I'm not so sure. For example, you could argue that Cheerilee's leadership ability comes from her cutie mark. I imagine without, she'd be a lot slower and less capable of making plans. It will be interesting to write the Luna 6 without their cutie marks. I doubt Trixie will take it very well.

Talon and Thorn
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You could move the time line forwards or backwards.

In the original story 'out town' had been founded but Starlight wasn't expanding it much yet.

You could place the story earlier where Starlight's minions aren't as well controlled and she's still trying to control them all and maybe the removal of Cutie Marks has only just started or even start during the story.

Or you could place it later when Starlight is looking to expand the whole place, maybe forming 'Our Town 2' so that she had more supporters and the main villain could even be a subordinate who interprets her cause a bit differently.

GrassAndClouds2
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Speaking of Starlight, have we decided what we're doing with her in the Lunaverse yet? Has she shown up?

Fizzy Orange
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No but all of her rogue-ish abilities, lick lock picking and fighting skills, don't have anything to do with it.

Talon and Thorn
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Not that I'm aware of, but we don't have to bring everypony in yet, we can leave her for later given season 3 is supposed to be the Changelings

RainbowDoubleDash
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It's location hasn't been confirmed anywhere as far as I know. I know I haven't placed it anywhere yet, though I was thinking of putting it in the Castle of the Two Sisters.

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I think we were considering doing something along the lines of tying her into some kind of anarchist or socialist political movement for Season 4. That doesn't mean we can't have rumblings of her in Season 3, though, much as how (retroactively) Corona was set up in Season 1 but really only came to the front in Season 2, and the changelings are being seeded throughout Season 2 but aren't going to be a big thing until Season 3.

Detectivefish
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Hold on... Luna has a magic portal to another dimension, and she'd put it in an abandoned, isolated location most ponies wouldn't dare go near, which is filled with (potentially) dangerous traps?
Not somewhere any random student / budding crazed megalomaniac could just wander in to on a lark?

Rixizu
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I didn't realize you had all that planned. I feel kind of bad that I wanted to retroactively add Starlight as a villain all the way back in season 1. The idea was that Trixie and her friends happen to find themselves in "Our Town" and defeat Starlight and free the citizens she'd been controlling. Starlight, of course, swore revenge. She then stole a powerful magical artifact that allowed her to travel through time. Because of time shenanigans, she accidentally creates the Ranger verse and another one where an evil organization named Shocker has taken over the world. Shocker is the villain of the Galaxy Ranger movie that I'm working on.

RainbowDoubleDash
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You don't have to feel bad about it; you didn't know.

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Luna has generally been shown to be a bit more competent about holding on to powerful magical artifacts and keeping them in places where folk can't get to them easily. That's not meant to be a dig at the TV show so much as just recognition that since we're writing for an older audience we don't need our plots to be quite so contrived.

Discord's statue is sealed in concrete, buried underground, and kept behind eight layers of magical wards. Although these are defenses against those who would release Discord rather than defenses against Discord. There is no defense against Discord, other than the Elements.

Rixizu
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Honest question, is it okay if I enter Starlight into Season 1, or should it be part of some weird almost identical AU on the original Lunaverse? Or is it some weird timey winey thing that make both options canon? There aren't any concrete plans for Starlight, so I wondering if I can use her? If not, that's fine.

Edit: Thinking about it, it would be interesting if Starlight's existence was in flux. She doesn't belong and nopony knows why.

GrassAndClouds2
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Isn't your Galaxy Rangers thing already an AU, or at least not canon to the original Lunaverse? If so, I don't see why you couldn't just do whatever you wanted.

Rixizu
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The thing is, it's actually an alternate timeline accidentally created by Starlight. I thought it would be interesting if it had a stronger tie to the main Lunaverse than it first appeared. Also, the main Lunaverse actually appears in the crossover I'm working on. Lunaverse Trixie and Ranger Trixie fight together to save the world.

GrassAndClouds2
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What I mean is, the canonical line of Lunaverse stories (filed in 'Season 1 episodes', 'Season 2 episodes', etc.) don't reference your stories at all. So I don't see why you couldn't just do what you wanted.

Canon is only an issue if the canonical stories have to take into account the things you write. I don't think any of the canon Lunaverse stories are taking the Rangers ones into account, so I don't see the issue.

RainbowDoubleDash
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What Grass said. You can do whatever you like with your atories, but as a full heads-up we probably won’t ever “canonize” the Rangers universe by having the canon stories reference them. Not meant to be disparagingC it’s just that the Rangers verse is a fair bit off from what the Lunaverse is (same reason why I pushed back against a user a few years back trying to force anti-elements as major villains into the Lunaverse).

Rixizu
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I understand. I'm getting too focused on connecting things when I don't need to. Besides, worrying about canon is stupid. You'd think years of Doctor Who would have taught me this.

Rixizu
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Forgetting my nonsense for a moment, what kind of relationship will Starlight have with the Luna 6? Will she have views that put her at odds with them? Will she try to manipulate them into joining her side? I'm curious about what role you want her to have for the greater story.

Talon and Thorn
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I don't think any of them is going to want to join up once they discover the entirety of Starlight's plan. However Carrot Top might be the most likely to go along with the working together as equal thing and her door mat nature probably makes her most likely to go along with Starlight. Cheerilee has a rebellious streak so she might at least in theory support Starlight making a stand against the current order although once she finds out about the whole 'stealing Cutie Marks' thing she would be against and she's paranoid enough to investigate.

GrassAndClouds2
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In addition to what 7214661 said, I could also see Ditzy being interested at first if Starlight plays up the 'no competition, everyone is nice to each other' angle.

And there's also Noi, Carrot Top's little sister who hates the idea of cutie marks. She might be very onboard with this idea.

GrassAndClouds2
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Idea for a slice of life story: Carrot Top is going on an out-of-town date with Written Script (maybe hanging out with him at a 2-day writer's convention in Canterlot) and leaves Trixie and Lyra to carrot-sit for her. That would be easy, except that one of the carrots is a special and very finnicky breed which Carrot Top wants to enter in a competition; if its temperature, hydration, soil content, or anything else changes by even a tiny amount the carrot will die (or be 'spoiled' so that, while it's still alive, it's less delicious and no longer tournament-worthy). The unicorns must endure a series of wacky hijinks as they struggle to keep Equestria's most fragile carrot alive and happy until Carrot Top returns.

Talon and Thorn
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Trixie accidentally casts a spell on it which makes it mobile... and gives it a taste for pony flesh!

"Night of the Living Carrot!"

Emeral Bookwise
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Of all her friends, Trixie seems like the last one Carrot Top would ever trust to watch the farm for her. As for Lyra, the only reason I see her getting asked to do so is because everypony else is busy with their actual jobs, and as a lazy busker... err... freelance musician, Lyra has the most flexible schedule. Otherwise I imagine Cheerilee, Raindrops, and Ditzy (in that order) all getting asked to do it first... and even that's only assuming not a single other farmer in the union is available.

I suppose in the scenario where Lyra gets asked because the other three are unavailable, I could then maybe see Trixie getting involved of her own volition, after having maybe taken some small offense at never being asked, and self-imposing herself on Lyra. The one thing I might worry about is the comedy being tricky to balance and inadvertently taking the joke too far and making either or both of them come across as grossly irresponsible. If the goal is comedy, maybe there shouldn't be any prize winning crop on the line, and instead just have everything revolve around a clash of egos as each mare tries to prove she's the more "responsible" one.

Alternatively, a hijinks story like this might be even better suited for some literal FOALISH antics, and kids certainly have free time to spare if it's a weekend. I could easily see Dinky overhearing her mom getting asked to watch the farm and then stepping in to volunteer herself for such a job to prove how responsible she is, then maybe Snails gets added into the mix. Especially if maybe instead of some prize winning carrot that's ridiculously hard to take care of, maybe the crisis could be the arrival of some kind of bug infestation... rude disagreeable bugs that won't leave just because Snails asks nicely.


On a tangential note, however, I've sorta been tossing around my own idea for a Carrot Top/Snails story revolving around such an infestation, with a gimmick of interspersing imagine spots of Carrot Top's "superhero" alter-ego, Captain Carotene from our old aborted dreams collab, fighting off an "alien" invasion with Snails now acting the part of her requisite junior sidekick. Sort of like Rarity Investigates, but for comicbook tropes instead of mystery noir.

RainbowDoubleDash
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That actually sounds really fun. Any ideas for the bugs? Also this might be a chance to also include Snips some more in a minor role; I think I recall you mentioning that Snips and Snails don't seem quite as attached to each other in our universe as they are in the mane one. Not that they have to be, but then again they are established as being friends so they should probably hang out more.

Emeral Bookwise
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Less attached? I don't think it was me who said that. Certainly when I wrote the two of them for that one scene in Sergeant at Hooves I pretty much assumed they hang out together frequently enough for Raindrops to be all the more annoyed by her brother's best bud.

Talon and Thorn
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I think it might have been me, it might be less than they're less attached, although obviously the Snails / Raindrops and even Snails / Occelus gets more of a spotlight that Snails / Snips, and more than Snip's doesn't get that much to do.

Emeral Bookwise
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So I was thinking, because Snails' sister and parents are all pegasi, and because we've established they moved to Ponyville specifically because of how hard it would be to raise a unicorn in Cloudsdale, we mostly tend to focus on Snails being the odd pony out in his family. While that's certainly true of his immediate family, presumably there must be some other unicorns in his extended family, even if only distantly related.

Looking over a list of underrepresented ponies, there might even be one perfect representative candidate we could take advantage of... Dewdrop Dazzle. As a toy she's peen depicted mostly as a recolor of Twilight and occasionally Rarity, but various fan artists have illustrated her with more unique designs (link-1, link-2, link-3), although a mythology gag involving one or the other might be fun to play with. More importantly, while the toy doesn't offer much insight into her as a character, the one thing does say about her is that she, "loves to splash and play in puddles," which certainly gives her something in common with Raindrops that could make them plausibly related. It also mentions that she's got a duck friend, which could simply be a pet, but could mean she has a bit of targeted animal empathy that might connect her to Snails as well.

Anyway, I didn't have any ideas for including her in a specific story, but I felt it might be worth floating the idea around to see if we wanted to flesh her out for anyone else that might possible want to include in a future story, or even just as an offhand background detail to be mentioned in passing. How is she related? Based on name, coloration, talent. probably on their father's side of the family, but should that be as close as being an aunt or cousin to Snails and Raindrops or something more distant? If more distant, have they ever met before? Should she come from an entire branch of the family that is mostly unicorns, or like snails should she be another odd pony out and giving the two something to bond over?

RainbowDoubleDash
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Personally I would lean towards "another odd pony out", although it would depend on the reason as to why we'd be bringing her in in the first place.

Rixizu
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I am interested in writing a story about Somnambula in the Lunaverse. It's set in the distant past. I know the canon states that she lived in the Southern Equestria, but it doesn't look like it ever got a proper name. Any ideas what it might be in the Lunaverse?

If you're curious, I'll give you a brief breakdown of my general idea for it. The pharaoh has gotten deathly sick any nopony can treat his disease. Worst, demons are popping up around country attacking ponies and causing problems. Also, a mysterious wise pony has appeared and taken a great interest in tutoring the pharaoh's son to be king after he dies. It's up to Somnambula to find a cure for her king's illness and put a stop to these demon attacks.

RainbowDoubleDash
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Unfortunately, there isn't really room for Somnambula's village in the Lunaverse's version of Equestria. Equestria is basically similar to western and central Europe in climate and terrain - there's no desert. Further south in the nation of Caballeria and leading into the Mild West and then the Sea of Sand you have deserts, but it's more like the American West than Egypt. I've imagined Egypt as being across the sea to the south in the continent of Farasi, but the inhabitants there are zebras and camels, not ponies. There

Rixizu
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Somewhere further abroad then? A place ancient ponies migrated to? Unless you want to say back then ponies did live in Farasi, but they migrated out?

RainbowDoubleDash
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Well mostly I'm thinking that this story is going to be set so far in the past, why even make it a Lunaverse story?

Rixizu
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You're probably right. I was just interested in doing an early history Lunaverse story, and ancient Egypt has always been an interest of mine. Do you have any other suggestions? Any early periods of the Lunaverse you might find it interesting to explore?

RainbowDoubleDash
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I don’t personally usually think back much further than the falling out between Celestia and Luna, except when a specific story needs it (RE: Tambelon).

Rixizu
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Give the idea some thought. It might be fun to explore other non-Equestrian Lunaverse cultures or adventures Luna and Celestia had during their youth. I'm always open to weird ideas.

Rixizu
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Could I get some clarification on something? What exactly is Spike's backstory in the Lunaverse and how did he become friends with Zecora?

RainbowDoubleDash
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It's never exactly been explained, other than Spike met Zecora a few years back. Spike seems to have partially raised himself at first, hatching by himself in the wild and managing to take care of himself before Zecora met him. I imagine he was something of a feral kid, though he learned the pony language from osmosis and listening to them the same way that dragon whelps learn Draconic.

Zecora probably helped to round out his vocabulary and taught him to read and write.

Hi there, I'm completely new as a user, but I've been following Lunaverse anonymously for years and finally decided I wanted to try and contribute something.
Would an episode set in Winter, based on the L6 going through Longest Night again for the first time since Corona returned, be an acceptable idea, or is someone already planning a Longest Night fic?

RainbowDoubleDash
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It'd be great! Also sorry for taking this long to get back to you, I've sort of overloaded myself with projects right now. But I don't see an issue with it. The closest story taking place at that time is The Rime of the Ancient Pegasus, but it takes place afterwards and the only thing that establishes is that the L6 were worried about Corona attacking and so wore their Elements all day long, but Corona didn't do anything.

thatguyvex
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Okay, so I'm getting ever closer to finally finishing Contest of Champions, and once it's done I plan to do my next story set in Season 3, which I know isn't actually here yet, but I'm still trying to figure out a story idea for it, so wanted to ask about what the general situation is going to be in Season 3 and what kind of themes I ought to consider exploring to fit it in best? I'll probably try to do a story that just focuses on one or two of the L6, since that's a lot easier for me to figure out a plot than trying to involve all six of them.

RainbowDoubleDash
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  • Celestia is back in Canterlot...and almost no one is on-board with it. Luna is a major exception, but she comes across as trying to pretend that the past 1,000 years didn't happen and there's no problem with Celestia just resuming her duties as normal, something that even Celestia recognizes is a bad way to be going about things. Celestia will have done a fair bit in Final Fall of the Tyrant Sun to earn at least some good will but at least at the start it's fair to say that at least 70% of the country wants her locked back in the Sun.
  • In Ponyville, the L6 after having spent a lot of Seasn 2 traipsing about the world are kind of eager to just stay in place or at least not go any further afield than Canterlot. At least two major plot threads were going to be Trixie doing a sort of "provincial tour" of the North Everfree in the same vein as what Talon & Thorn had Max do for Nulpar in Climbing the Mountain 2, with an eye towards building her up as ready to become the noble of the North Everfree. And of course, Lyra and Bon Bon proposing to each other and getting formally engaged, and then possibly married by the end of the season.
  • There is no such thing as changelings. :pinkiecrazy:
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