There is a problem of fics being listed here that don't actually have anything to do with transformation. This thread is for pointing out such fics and discussing what does and doesn't belong here. I'll start with listing a few general examples: R63 alternate universe stories: Some of these might qualify, but not by simply being this. This group is about transformations not cross-universe travel or alternate dimensions. Please make sure they involve some form of transformation before listing them here. If there are any examples I missed, you need to mention specific examples, or are uncertain what qualifies, that is why I made this thread. Feel free to discuss and hopefully start fixing this problem. Body swaps allowed until further notice.
New to fimfiction, thought I'd make a note about allowing body swap. If that refers to Human into Pony w/o description of the TF, I'd like to advocate it to be allowed here. Here's why. HiE fiction on this site seems to be notoriously anti-TF and I don't know of a better place for "I was a human, now I'm a pony in Equestria" fiction.
640596 Thanks! I looked there, and that's where I got the vibe that HiE + TF into pony was frowned upon. I'll take another look. It's probably just a few outspoken ponies.
640822 I'm on that group, the ones that hate on pony TF tales are the more outspoken and are probably the source of the 3 thumbs down my tale has gotten. On the other hoof, i've gotten way more thumbs up with that as the main group I had been on for months, so there dont seem to be as many Grinches there as I first thought. One group you might check I found a few days ago is Pony-Humans so that might be worth a look..
I'm just going to remind everyone on this thread that this thread is not a general discussion thread. This is about fics posted here that do or don't belong. Should I start a thread for general discussion in this group?
645566 The Conversion Bureau This is a tricky one right here. Technically, this entire series qualifies, but I think it deserves some special consideration lest we absorb the entire thing.
Of course, we may have done it already. It can be hard to keep track of what fics get added, sometimes!
I'm going to say allowable, so long as it involves the transformation of a principle character. Unless someone has reason to disagree, of course.
895022 I agree that TCB stories technically qualify but we shouldn't go out and add each one to the group. Due to the sheer number of them and how prone to starting flame wars they can be, it definitely deserves caution. If it becomes a problem where we're overflowing with them in the future, we may have to give them their own folder so as to keep them from overshadowing the other non-TCB transformation stories. What you said is probably a good way to sum it up for now though.
And for another group of fimfics: Ponyearthverse Each and every one of these qualifies (and many are already listed in this group.). That said, we either need to give it its own folder or just tell people not to go about adding each and every one of them. They aren't as much of a problem as TCB stories but worthy of mention.
895347 Perhaps a folder dedicated to TCB, and a corresponding thread? That way at least, any potential shennanigans could be contained. Also, maybe try a reccomendation thread, and set the TCB folder so that only the admins can let a story in after jointly reviewing it?
1053565 Those are all good ideas and I'll be sure to see what my fellow admins think about it. But my personal take is that so far, there hasn't really been enough TCB related controversy/problems in this group to warrant any drastic measures.
1054405 Not immediately inclined, no. We aren't the TCB group, we don't need to collect every TCB fic. Post a TCB fic here if it deserves special note as being about the experience of a transformee or the experience of transformation as seen from other main characters. Generally, I'm going to accept that the person posting it is genuine in their intentions. If it comes to be a problem, we can look into another solution. If a specific fic is a problem, let an admin know~.
Oh, while I'm here, I'm going to make an unspoken policy decision crystal clear, as I know it can be a problem in transformation-related groups:
No Rape Fics Clarification: This means that the rape occurs either 'on screen' at all or occurs 'off screen' in a manner determined to be unfit, which is a judgement call. Nonconsensual sex being a thing that happens to exist, is part of distant backgrounds, or other distant forms are (dubiously) fine - the short version is that if it's not a significant part of the going's on of the story, it's not significant enough to qualify, but be tasteful people. If it gets drawn to our attention, we'll take a look and make a judgement call. Also, no pedophilia, which is target-specific rape.
Clop fics are fine. While I may personally not like clop, I also don't like brony fics, and yet both are permitted.
If a fic that involves this explicitly banned content already exists or has been added, please PM myself or another admin and let us know. Make sure that it is actually in a folder still before you PM us, I won't be pleased to see PMs of things I took care of days or weeks ago. Give us a short summary saying what the content is and why it is objectionable - don't paste massive walls of text or even the relevant passage, since the last thing I want is a pony porn hotline on my FIMFiction account.
1054405 Point of Order: What about the Five Score stuff? These clearly involve the transformation of a main character, but they already have an entire group devoted to it.
Much as I don't like these kind of fics, they are our bailiwick, and they do fit the strict definition, so we probably ought to include them. Thoughts?
1097948 I agree. They should be welcome here. Should we give those, the Ponyearthverse, and TCB fics their own folders and list them exclusively in those folders so as to allow they don't clog up the humans into ponies folder? But regardless, we should probably maintain our current stance on those kinds of stories.
1100796 I looked into the TCB group just to confirm, and they put it in "related to TCB concepts" which sound a lot like "anything" because that folder have several fics that surely doesn't include TCB (one doesn't include humans at all).
at request i will explain his transformation. Volaren is an earth pony and basically the soul of a demigod given flesh and put to sleep. his sword which eats souls and than gives him the energy has eaten both a demon lord and a minor deity. both of those forms are going to come out. and while its vague at the beginning he does start out as a "human" i say this tentatively because he has ascended into a demigod/demon.
thanks in advance i hope everyone helps me find a place for this
I just added my own story Ponyville. I don't know if this is the standard procedure for adding a story, and if I did something wrong, please let me know. The transformation bit is in the first chapter.
Okay, are fics that don't focus on the transformation allowed? Because I have a fic called The Path of Absolution - Punishment. In it The CMC are petrified for a few chapters (They got better) Sweetie Belle's horn and Scootaloo's wings are turned to ice, and Diamond Tiara becomes an alicorn, (also with wings and a horn of ice) Both cases are temporarily and I don't think the fic focuses on the latter transformation as anything but side effects.
1253442 Well if it does involve a transformation, it should be allowed. It'd probably belong in the Ponies into other Ponies catagory. That's my say on the matter.
1253937 The CMC's temporary petrification would peg it in the inanimate folder, and the whole Alicorn!Diamond Tiara (or rather Diamond Dust) would be in the alicorn folder, but I'll put in in the other ponies folder as well, just to be safe, (Alicorn!Diamond Tiara would be referred to as Diamond Dust for most of the story)
Okay, are fics where ponies grow and or shrink allowed? (And yes, i already know about the Ponies Big and Small group) Because I have a fic in the works where Diamond Tiara grows Kaiju size (thought most of that growth is offscreen, There are some scenes that depict her a little bit of her growth.) Considering that the item responsible for this make her more dragonesque (in mind and ability but apart form size, not body) it could go in the Monsters folder.
600384 I have a question. Are fic where ponies grow or shrink allowed? There's a fic i wrote where Diamond Tiara has some liquid Poison Joke and starts growing (and acting like a greedy dragon)
Hello everyone! I would like to submit my fanfic Metamorphosis to this group, but I'm unsure of where to put it or how to properly categorize it. The story is a crossover between MLP:FIM and the anime/manga series Bio-Booster Armor Guyver, and as such primarily involves the involuntary/accidental transformation of the main character into a techno-organic armored warrior who can change back and forth at will (making all latter transformations voluntary ). It also involves changelings (as the primary antagonists), and changelings tranforming into monstrous alternative forms outside the scope of the typical changeling transformation. I also intend to use change and transformation as themes throughout the story (hence the title). If there were "Other" or "Combined/Multiple" categories, I guess those would be appropriate, but since neither of those are options does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks for your help!
In my story 'My Little Icarus: Chaotic Siblings' I have three moments where I have a transformation. The transformations last for about maybe a few paragraphs and one change that actually does last for almost an entire chapter, but we don't really focus on it much.
Would this count as being allowed? If so, where should I put it? It has characters turning into monsters, petrification (if you account Discord's status), elements, and... um... walking human-sized vegetables.
As stated earlier, so long as a transformation occurs, it's allowed unless it violates Posting guideline c) (See the group front page). Since I doubt it does, just be sure to place it in the appropriate catagories.
Hi everybody/everypony. I'm new here and my first fic is about the CMC getting transformed in MLP's universe version of the Doom Patrol but i'm not sure were to add it. Anyway hope you like it, and I'm also looking for suggestions. So if it belongs here and you like the idea please go read and comment. (sorry the bad english, blame google)
1345010 Well, actually is just the concept itself but not entirely the same. Applebloom is transformed into a changeling-pony hybrid. Sweetie Belle is completely transformed into a robot. Scootaloo is changed into energy that shock everything she touches. And the three are aged to 20-21 years old. For more information I wrote the transformation sequences in the second chapter (Secret Origins) and a full explanation in the third chapter (Anatomy lesson)
1345542 Sounds like it could be listed in Changelings (Apple Bloom's transformation), Inanimate (Sweetie Belle's), and age (All 3). Not sure where Scootaloo's would fall.
1390422 You mean like Sonic going Super Saiyan Sonic? I personally think that's more of a temporary super power thing than a transformation. Maybe you should ask Ether Echoes what he thinks but my verdict would be no.
I got a fic that curtains a small group of Kaiju being hurled into the pony universe and transformed. I have no plans of (and outright hate) pedophilia and rape fics so mine will never be one of those. It DOES revolve around such transformation, but I wanted to be sure that
1. It was allowed if the transformation wasn't a pony originally or a Human-to-pony shift 2. Was allowed for outside fictional characters
as I didn't want to be rude and possibly break a rule. If it is allowed, what category would I put it in?
1419484 We have no rules excluding crossovers to speak of so long as they don't break any of the rules of fics allowed in the group and has a transformation. You should be good.
There is a problem of fics being listed here that don't actually have anything to do with transformation. This thread is for pointing out such fics and discussing what does and doesn't belong here. I'll start with listing a few general examples:
R63 alternate universe stories: Some of these might qualify, but not by simply being this. This group is about transformations not cross-universe travel or alternate dimensions. Please make sure they involve some form of transformation before listing them here.
If there are any examples I missed, you need to mention specific examples, or are uncertain what qualifies, that is why I made this thread. Feel free to discuss and hopefully start fixing this problem.
Body swaps allowed until further notice.
I'm going to permit bodyswaps, tentatively.
If anyone thinks they deserve their own category, let me know.
New to fimfiction, thought I'd make a note about allowing body swap. If that refers to Human into Pony w/o description of the TF, I'd like to advocate it to be allowed here. Here's why. HiE fiction on this site seems to be notoriously anti-TF and I don't know of a better place for "I was a human, now I'm a pony in Equestria" fiction.
Thanks!
634797 Don't worry, bodyswaps will be allowed for now. Also, there is an entire group (one of the larger groups around in fact.) devoted to human in equestria fics and they tend to fall into your description.
640596 Thanks! I looked there, and that's where I got the vibe that HiE + TF into pony was frowned upon. I'll take another look. It's probably just a few outspoken ponies.
640822
I'm on that group, the ones that hate on pony TF tales are the more outspoken and are probably the source of the 3 thumbs down my tale has gotten. On the other hoof, i've gotten way more thumbs up with that as the main group I had been on for months, so there dont seem to be as many Grinches there as I first thought.
One group you might check I found a few days ago is Pony-Humans so that might be worth a look..
640948
Good to keep an eye out for transformations.
I'm just going to remind everyone on this thread that this thread is not a general discussion thread. This is about fics posted here that do or don't belong. Should I start a thread for general discussion in this group?
645566
Go for it.
645566
The Conversion Bureau
This is a tricky one right here. Technically, this entire series qualifies, but I think it deserves some special consideration lest we absorb the entire thing.
Of course, we may have done it already. It can be hard to keep track of what fics get added, sometimes!
I'm going to say allowable, so long as it involves the transformation of a principle character. Unless someone has reason to disagree, of course.
895022 I agree that TCB stories technically qualify but we shouldn't go out and add each one to the group. Due to the sheer number of them and how prone to starting flame wars they can be, it definitely deserves caution. If it becomes a problem where we're overflowing with them in the future, we may have to give them their own folder so as to keep them from overshadowing the other non-TCB transformation stories. What you said is probably a good way to sum it up for now though.
And for another group of fimfics:
Ponyearthverse
Each and every one of these qualifies (and many are already listed in this group.). That said, we either need to give it its own folder or just tell people not to go about adding each and every one of them. They aren't as much of a problem as TCB stories but worthy of mention.
895347
Perhaps a folder dedicated to TCB, and a corresponding thread? That way at least, any potential shennanigans could be contained. Also, maybe try a reccomendation thread, and set the TCB folder so that only the admins can let a story in after jointly reviewing it?
1053565 Those are all good ideas and I'll be sure to see what my fellow admins think about it. But my personal take is that so far, there hasn't really been enough TCB related controversy/problems in this group to warrant any drastic measures.
1054405
Not immediately inclined, no. We aren't the TCB group, we don't need to collect every TCB fic.
Post a TCB fic here if it deserves special note as being about the experience of a transformee or the experience of transformation as seen from other main characters.
Generally, I'm going to accept that the person posting it is genuine in their intentions. If it comes to be a problem, we can look into another solution. If a specific fic is a problem, let an admin know~.
Oh, while I'm here, I'm going to make an unspoken policy decision crystal clear, as I know it can be a problem in transformation-related groups:
No Rape Fics
Clarification: This means that the rape occurs either 'on screen' at all or occurs 'off screen' in a manner determined to be unfit, which is a judgement call. Nonconsensual sex being a thing that happens to exist, is part of distant backgrounds, or other distant forms are (dubiously) fine - the short version is that if it's not a significant part of the going's on of the story, it's not significant enough to qualify, but be tasteful people. If it gets drawn to our attention, we'll take a look and make a judgement call. Also, no pedophilia, which is target-specific rape.
Clop fics are fine. While I may personally not like clop, I also don't like brony fics, and yet both are permitted.
If a fic that involves this explicitly banned content already exists or has been added, please PM myself or another admin and let us know. Make sure that it is actually in a folder still before you PM us, I won't be pleased to see PMs of things I took care of days or weeks ago. Give us a short summary saying what the content is and why it is objectionable - don't paste massive walls of text or even the relevant passage, since the last thing I want is a pony porn hotline on my FIMFiction account.
1054405
Point of Order:
What about the Five Score stuff? These clearly involve the transformation of a main character, but they already have an entire group devoted to it.
Much as I don't like these kind of fics, they are our bailiwick, and they do fit the strict definition, so we probably ought to include them.
Thoughts?
1097948 I agree. They should be welcome here. Should we give those, the Ponyearthverse, and TCB fics their own folders and list them exclusively in those folders so as to allow they don't clog up the humans into ponies folder? But regardless, we should probably maintain our current stance on those kinds of stories.
1098094
Very well.
Go ahead and delete those fics out of the Humans into Ponies folder (others are fine) after you move them into the new folders.
1098094 1098292 Not much of a deal, but P-Theory isn't a TCB fic. It actually fits in the Human -> Ponies folder.
1100479 Well, it's listed in The Conversion Bureau group (The newer one.) so I put in our TCB folder. But I can move it back if that's true.
1100796 I looked into the TCB group just to confirm, and they put it in "related to TCB concepts" which sound a lot like "anything" because that folder have several fics that surely doesn't include TCB (one doesn't include humans at all).
1100821 Fair enough. I fixed the problem. It's back in the folder it belongs in.
600358
at request i will explain his transformation. Volaren is an earth pony and basically the soul of a demigod given flesh and put to sleep. his sword which eats souls and than gives him the energy has eaten both a demon lord and a minor deity. both of those forms are going to come out. and while its vague at the beginning he does start out as a "human" i say this tentatively because he has ascended into a demigod/demon.
thanks in advance i hope everyone helps me find a place for this
1181091 Fair enough. In the submission guidelines, it says the following:
So yeah, you can list it in this group. And as for the premise, it sounds like it might belong in humans into monsters and/or humans into ponies.
Hope this helps.
I just added my own story Ponyville. I don't know if this is the standard procedure for adding a story, and if I did something wrong, please let me know. The transformation bit is in the first chapter.
1191139 You didn't do anything wrong. There's no rule stating you can't add your own stories.
1181561 thank you very much. I will see to it that my fic does not disappoint
Okay, are fics that don't focus on the transformation allowed? Because I have a fic called The Path of Absolution - Punishment. In it The CMC are petrified for a few chapters (They got better) Sweetie Belle's horn and Scootaloo's wings are turned to ice, and Diamond Tiara becomes an alicorn, (also with wings and a horn of ice) Both cases are temporarily and I don't think the fic focuses on the latter transformation as anything but side effects.
1253442 Well if it does involve a transformation, it should be allowed. It'd probably belong in the Ponies into other Ponies catagory. That's my say on the matter.
1253937 The CMC's temporary petrification would peg it in the inanimate folder, and the whole Alicorn!Diamond Tiara (or rather Diamond Dust) would be in the alicorn folder, but I'll put in in the other ponies folder as well, just to be safe, (Alicorn!Diamond Tiara would be referred to as Diamond Dust for most of the story)
1254133 Now that I think of it, yeah, it shouldn't be in the ponies into other ponies folder. I'll take it out of that. Otherwise, you're fine.
Okay, are fics where ponies grow and or shrink allowed? (And yes, i already know about the Ponies Big and Small group) Because I have a fic in the works where Diamond Tiara grows Kaiju size (thought most of that growth is offscreen, There are some scenes that depict her a little bit of her growth.) Considering that the item responsible for this make her more dragonesque (in mind and ability but apart form size, not body) it could go in the Monsters folder.
1287945 To be honest, that's something I'll have to let Ether give judgement on.
600384 I have a question. Are fic where ponies grow or shrink allowed? There's a fic i wrote where Diamond Tiara has some liquid Poison Joke and starts growing (and acting like a greedy dragon)
Hello everyone! I would like to submit my fanfic Metamorphosis to this group, but I'm unsure of where to put it or how to properly categorize it. The story is a crossover between MLP:FIM and the anime/manga series Bio-Booster Armor Guyver, and as such primarily involves the involuntary/accidental transformation of the main character into a techno-organic armored warrior who can change back and forth at will (making all latter transformations voluntary ). It also involves changelings (as the primary antagonists), and changelings tranforming into monstrous alternative forms outside the scope of the typical changeling transformation. I also intend to use change and transformation as themes throughout the story (hence the title). If there were "Other" or "Combined/Multiple" categories, I guess those would be appropriate, but since neither of those are options does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks for your help!
1319778
Yes, I'm not sure a 'Size' category is warranted though, just put it in Forced/Willing etc.
Monsters! might also apply.
1321512
Put it in all applicable categories.
1322433 Okay thanks.
1322433
Will do, thanks!
1253937
If it involves a transformation?
*thinks for a moment*
In my story 'My Little Icarus: Chaotic Siblings' I have three moments where I have a transformation. The transformations last for about maybe a few paragraphs and one change that actually does last for almost an entire chapter, but we don't really focus on it much.
Would this count as being allowed? If so, where should I put it? It has characters turning into monsters, petrification (if you account Discord's status), elements, and... um... walking human-sized vegetables.
As stated earlier, so long as a transformation occurs, it's allowed unless it violates Posting guideline c) (See the group front page). Since I doubt it does, just be sure to place it in the appropriate catagories.
Hi everybody/everypony.
I'm new here and my first fic is about the CMC getting transformed in MLP's universe version of the Doom Patrol but i'm not sure were to add it. Anyway hope you like it, and I'm also looking for suggestions.
So if it belongs here and you like the idea please go read and comment.
(sorry the bad english, blame google)
1343844 Describe what they are transformed into better. I'm not particularly familiar with the Doom Patrol myself.
1345010
Well, actually is just the concept itself but not entirely the same.
Applebloom is transformed into a changeling-pony hybrid.
Sweetie Belle is completely transformed into a robot.
Scootaloo is changed into energy that shock everything she touches.
And the three are aged to 20-21 years old.
For more information I wrote the transformation sequences in the second chapter (Secret Origins) and a full explanation in the third chapter (Anatomy lesson)
1345542 Sounds like it could be listed in Changelings (Apple Bloom's transformation), Inanimate (Sweetie Belle's), and age (All 3). Not sure where Scootaloo's would fall.
1346652
Then I should post it in three different folders?
1348003 I don't see why not. So long as it fits.
Does Super Rainbow Dash count for this group?
1390422 You mean like Sonic going Super
SaiyanSonic? I personally think that's more of a temporary super power thing than a transformation. Maybe you should ask Ether Echoes what he thinks but my verdict would be no.1390477
I see. Thanks for the reply, then.
I got a fic that curtains a small group of Kaiju being hurled into the pony universe and transformed. I have no plans of (and outright hate) pedophilia and rape fics so mine will never be one of those. It DOES revolve around such transformation, but I wanted to be sure that
1. It was allowed if the transformation wasn't a pony originally or a Human-to-pony shift
2. Was allowed for outside fictional characters
as I didn't want to be rude and possibly break a rule. If it is allowed, what category would I put it in?
1419484 We have no rules excluding crossovers to speak of so long as they don't break any of the rules of fics allowed in the group and has a transformation. You should be good.