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Jordan179


I'm a long time science fiction and animation fan who stumbled into My Little Pony fandom and got caught -- I guess I'm a Brony Forever now.

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Jan
9th
2015

Some of the Ancestry and Kin of the Sweet Apple Acres Siblings · 9:09am Jan 9th, 2015

Introduction

This is a very partial list of the ancestry and kin of the Sweet Apple Acres Siblings

I. Distant Ancestry

The Apples of Sweet Apple Acres are remotely descended from St. Sweetheart and Teddy of the Age of Wonders,

(from the Paradise Estate Picture Collection, Canterlot Palace Archive, ill. Chiuuchiuu)

whose children were Brave Heart, Wild Heart, Pure Heart and Lion Heart (as described by Alex Warlorn). These four children are ancestral to the lineages of the Hearts, Apples and Pies, among many others, since they survived the Cataclysm and thus had a major genetic impact on the population of Ponies who passed this bottleneck; most present-day Earth Ponies are partially descended from them. These lineages cross and recross many times over the ensuing four millennia.

II. Morgan Apples

The 14th-century ancestors of the Apples of Sweet Apple Acres dwelt in Morgan (NE Equestria). Apple Bloom the Elder (1331-1388) was the elder sister of Pine Apple (1342-viveat), and they were in turn the first cousins of Apple Tart (1336-1398) who is ancestral to the Berries of Ponyville (including Blackcherry Lee "Cheerilee" Punch).

Apple Bloom the Elder left Morgan with her friends in quest of new lands. She wed her childhood friend and companion Golden ("Goldheart") Heart (1332-1372) whose elder brother was Pure Gold (1322-1405) who since Pinkie Pie's possible edit of history (in 1504) now had wed Fluffy Pie (1365-1405) making Pinkie Pie a cousin of the Apple Siblings, as she Wished to be. (Around Pinkie, normal causality sometimes takes vacations). This also makes the Apples recent kin to the Hearts and the Golds.

III. Founders of Ponyville

The two daughters of Apple Bloom the Elder were Dawnflower ("Sew n'Sow") Apple (1361-1463) and Duskflower ("Applesauce") Apple (1369-viveat). Dawnflower married Acorn ("Pokey") Oaks (1351-1421) who was a Morgan Pony, and Duskflower married Happy Trails (1369-1456) who was an Itinerant Pony (kin to the Trail Dancer who is Pie Chart's True Love).

Dawnflower's eldest daughter is Green ("Greenie," later aka "Granny Smith") Apple (1392-viveat),; there were numerous other siblings and from them 2nd cousins of the Sweet Apple Acre Siblings). Some of these siblings live around Nickerlite, about 50 miles west of Ponyville and a few miles north of South-Dunnich.

Duskflower's daughters included Rose ("Apple Rose") Apple (1392-viveat) the favorite cousin and best friend of Greenie Apple; and Goldie Delicious Apple (1396-viveat) who later became the family historian. Rose Apple married the Griffonian-Imperial Earth Pony immigrant Apfel Strudel ("Apple Strudel") (1393-viveat) and from them are descended many 3rd cusins, including Apple Fritter and Lavender Fritter. These Apples mostly live near Bittsburg, northwest of Fillydelphia and far east of Ponyville.

(from left to right, viewer's perspective, these are Apple Rose, her mother Duskflower; Green Apple, and her mother Dawnflower, around 1407).

Greenie Apple wed Black ("Blackie") Smith (1390-1489) and both changed their last names to "Smith Apple" both by way of expressing their extreme, passionate love, and being daringly modern. They had among their numerous offspring four daughters.

IV. Ponyville Apples

These daughters were Melanie Rose ("Melrose") Apple (1439-1491), Elizabeth Brown ("Apple Brown Betty") Apple (1444-), Dumpling ("Apple Dumpling") Apple (1453-) and Apple Leaves (1458-). Melanie Rose married Tangelo Orange (1441-1491) the elder brother of Mosely Orange (1448-). Elizabeth Brown first had an irregular union with Wandering ("Wanderlust") Baker (1446-?) and then wed her cousin Apple Split. Apple Dumpling and Apple Leaves married two brothers, their cousins Red Delicious Apple (1455-) and Golden Delicious Apple (1453-) respectively.

(Sisters Apple Brown Betty, Apple Dumpling and Apple Leaves, photos taken at 1502 Apple Family Reunion)




Melanie Rose and Tangelo Orange had three children: Macintosh ("Big Mac") Apple (1474-), Abigail Jacqueline ("Applejack") Apple (1478-) and Bloom ("Apple Bloom the Younger") Apple (1490-). These are the Sweet Apple Acre Siblings, who figure so prominently in the history of the Shadow Wars.

V. Some More Apples

Apple Brown Betty had by her lover Wanderlust two children, Baked ("Half-Baked") Apple (1467-) and Apple Cider (1469-). By her husband Apple Split she had at least five children: Candace ("Candy") Apples (1474-), Caramella (aka "Apple Bumpkin," "Apple Dazzle") Apple (1482-), Red ("Crimson") Gala Apple (1484-), Magdalena ("Maggie") Apple (1486-) and Sweetie ("Sweet Tooth") Apple (1494-). Apple Brown Betty holds the Brown Apple Farm northeast of Ponyville.

Apple Dumpling had by her husband Red Delicious at least three children: Florina, Brown Sugar and Red June. Apple Leaves had by her husband Golden Delicious at least eight children: oldest Apple Squash, youngest Apple Tart, and six more in between). The "Apple Dumpling Gang" holds a farm hundreds of miles northwest of Ponyville.

Conclusion

The Apple tree bears many fruit!

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Comments ( 23 )

Remember 7 Dreams/Nightmares was the effort of several authors, only Bright Eyes' chapter was written directly by me.

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Ah, now I'm going to have to go back to it to see who to credit. I also need to credit Sketcha-holic for the Nickerlite Apples.

"fourth cousin twice removed by a fifth cousin"

The 'by the fifth cousin' doesn't really make much sense. Fourth cousin is logical, but since Pinkie Pie is the same generation as AJ, the 'twice removed' doesn't make as much sense.

And I wonder if Apple Byte has any relation to the Apple Family, or if her name is just random chance. http://ask-apple-bytes.tumblr.com/

Also, what do you think the Princesses had to tell Twilight when she stuck to the LETTER of the law of princesses not abusing their power, but ignoring the SPIRIT of the law (letting a band of criminals go on a rampage and physical harm innocent ponies).

You sure love your family trees. And THANK YOU for keeping it out of the main story and keeping it in the supplement material!!!!!!

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I honestly have no idea what Pinkie Pie meant by that. Since she was taking geneaology into realms of causality usually illustrated by complex Finemare ... I mean, Feynman :raritywink: diagrams and discussed by particle physicists with reference to Copenhagen vs. Many-Worlds Interpretations of quantum mechanics, I defy anyone to explain what she meant. I fear that if I consider the genetics involved too closely, coupled with the fact that she was performing a Reverse Grandfather Paradox as a closed time-loop with regard to HER OWN great grandfather -- well, I'll either have an anvil fall on my head or feel as if one did.

And ponies wonder why Surprise the Nth Pie, the direct product of the union of Fluffy Pie and Pure Gold, was a little bit insane? They should have wondered, instead, why she was sane at all.

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Also, what do you think the Princesses had to tell Twilight when she stuck to the LETTER of the law of princesses not abusing their power, but ignoring the SPIRIT of the law (letting a band of criminals go on a rampage and physical harm innocent ponies).

I think that it simultaneously pleased and disappointed them, for different reasons.

Celestia was probably glad that Twilight didn't blow them up, and disappointed that it took Twilight so long to figure out how to outwit them. Celestia herself would probably have overawed them into submisssion. It perhaps hasn't occurred yet to Twilight that she can do things like that -- a very minor display of power would have terrified the outlaws. Twilight is still thinking of herself as a librarian who sometimes goes on adventures, instead of a Princess of Equestria.

Note that Rarity and Applejack in a previous episode defeated the gang themselves. It's obvious that Twilight was holding her friends back: they were waiting to act on her lead. While it's good that they look to her for leadership, she led them poorly in that two-parter.

Luna would have just kicked their asses and dealt with complaints later. Seriously.

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I think Apple Bytes has to be an Apple. The blog's only one page long and doesn't go much into the character, thugh, so I know very little abut him.

Flim and Flam are almost certainly Apples too. I'm guessing illegitimately, by a non-Apple mare so they didn't inherit the name (according to my matrilineage system). And possibly with a grudge against the other Apples.

(If so, Granny Smith's recent kindness to them may have made a difference).

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Apple Byte actually appeared in the same one scene as Burton Mash, so ironic they know him, but not her.

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I think Cadence, if the writers had thought about it, also in that situation could have pointed out that there's a difference between not abusing your power, and subdue obviously dangerous criminals who survived being set on fire with no meaningful injury, blasting them before they can continues to cause destruction, when NOT doing so would IMMEDIATELY lead to more ponies being hurt . . . She might even point out that Sombra was ALSO a pony, and nopony sheds tears (well, except for those who knew him BEFORE he became Sombra) over him very much being dead. I KNOW they need to show the kids violence isn't the answer. But if you need to use force to defend someone else.

Also, talking about Cadence, have you see the latest Friends Forever issue? With Babs and Rarity? Notice anything about one of those roller ponies?

I'm honestly surprised that the original Applejack doesn't factor into the family tree. At least, not that you've indicated. Given the Dream Valley bottleneck, her descendants probably married into the line at some point.

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She must not have meant it in a genealogical sense. Some fifth cousin tried to undo her changes to the timeline, but gave up after two attempts.

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Oh, Applejack the First is probably an ancestor of Sweetheart. Thanks to the bottleneck of the Time of Extermination, almost two thousand years before Sweetheart's birth, she's probably an ancestor of all Ponykind by now.

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Ah. Right. Missed the timestamp there. My bad. :derpytongue2:

These never fail to be amusing and fascinating. Many thanks:twilightsmile:

so... how do hayseed Turniptruck and the orange family connected?

So they're pretty much related to almost all the Earth Ponies?

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Well, all Ponykind is ultimately related. But the Apples have been a large and prolific and successful clan. At the thinnest point of the bottleneck, when there were only 40 million Ponies alive anywhere on the Earth, at least a millionth of that population would have been Apples. Or Hearts, to be precise.

The 14th-century ancestors of the Apples of Sweet Apple Acres dwelt in Morgan (NE Equestria). Apple Bloom the Elder (1331-1388) was the elder sister of Pine Apple (1342-viveat), and they were in turn the first cousins of Apple Tart (1336-1398) who is ancestral to the Berries of Ponyville (including Blackcherry Lee "Cheerilee" Punch).

What does “viveat” mean? It looks like a form of vīvō, but I don’t see it on the conjugation table.

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It's my bad Latin. A dear friend of mine who ,knows better Latin told me this already, but I didn't fix my older essays yet. :twilightsheepish:

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Ah. What’s it supposed to mean?

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"Living" or "alive."

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Maybe “vīvēns” (present active participle, glossed as “living”? (My Latin, especially when it comes to fine points of conjugation, is basically confined to looking things up online, so take it cum grano salis. :twistnerd:)

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