The caribou are landing at the town of Lindisbarne. Everypony's throwing them a welcoming celebration and the Canterlot unicorn Sunrise Splendor hopes it'll be exciting in this boring town. She may be getting more than she wishes for.
Man that was a long chapter. I was thinking about the previous chapter and how the Caribou salute. You said they have a fist over their chest? Is that a reference to the nazi salute, in which they place a curled fist over their heart?
On another note, this entire chapter I just wanted to fucking kill those Caribou in many ways, both those painful and those quick. Why aren't there more stories of someone from another dimension getting tossed in here to fix shit? I love those stories. Then again, that's just me.
This story is interesting nonetheless, and definitely provides a more unique point of view than any other. If it can make me as angry as this one did (in a good way), then it's got potential.
5363120 I read a book a while back about a living in Nazi Germany. He was executed at the age of about 15 because he was posting flyers of the Nazi's lies, which he heard of on a radio his brother, in the German army, had gotten off of the black market. I could swear I remember that being the way he saluted while in school.
Reading though the first half of this is really wanting me to see a comic adaption of this story, Because I like surreal nudity that's the main thing that attracted me to FoE, So I love those scene where Sunny is bathing and prepping her self plus when she's running thought the woods and just having normal interactions that nonsexual. It's also because this story is all OCs most of witch never been depicted visually its hard to keep track of characters and what they look like. Last the visual scope.
Now about the butt plug loosening Sunny's asshole, Isn't there a reason why the anus is so tight? Like to stop people from some shitting them selves? Also with how raw her butthole got rubbed definitely sounds like she should get hemorrhoids. I mean I know people that hemorrhoids from being kicked up the butt and using leaves to wipe themselves, what worst they tell me once you get them they keep flaring up so the anal sex shell keep getting won't help matters. Then you have bladder infection from the vaginal abuse. Although I doubt that the Twipet will go into Sunny suffering from incontinence and hemorrhoid flareups and swollen bladder caused by the abuse that the caribous giving her. But the sadist to me wants to see that!
Near the end I was hoping that they would show Sunny eating mare food out of a pet bowl. I also can hope that Vestri was going to give her some meat. In real life caribou are omnivores which means they eat both plants and meat. It would be likely adorable to see Vestri give Sunny sausage, it's like I think people do with horses well they give them hot dogs eat.
5363120 Each one of you is half right. The Nazi salute was actually displayed by putting one's right fist to the chest first, then stretching it out in the air and holding the hand flat.
will be there a happy end and can you make it romantic,i mean to make vestri to fall in love with sunny and to make her like his girlfriend not like his slave,to make them a little bit more loving each other and thanks for reading my advice,i hope you will make sunny's life filled with a little bit more love
5890600 Don't worry! This OP always delivers! It's just a very long wait because of writer's block, busy stuffs, and working on several other things at once. You should expect (Hopefully) one of my next stories by the end of the month, and (hopefully) the next chapter of Sun's Setting next month. It's been a looooong wait and drive.
5685545 I would almost have laughed at the idea of a stag genuinely falling in love in an official FoE story. But then I remembered that a stag in love is actually not entirely without precedent. So maybe we will see it here as well.
5895137 That may be. However what's really odd is that caribou law and culture seem to do everything possible to prevent genuine relationships between a male and a female. Many elements of their culture simply don't make any sense except as a means to make sure genuine emotional connection doesn't happen - like seeing twins of different genders as a bad omen and ostracizing them, for example. The caribou seem to be afraid of love.
5897528 Not quite. The twins thing I can see from their side. A strong male with a weak female in the same birth? The male's cursed with feminine weakness. Either way, love still blooms everywhere. But mostly we get to see rampaging fuck stallions rather than personal relationships.
The twins thing I can see from their side. A strong male with a weak female in the same birth? The male's cursed with feminine weakness.
Eh, that's exactly what I meant, just in other words. In this context, the fear of "feminine weakness" is the fear of genuine emotions and their free expression.
5898504 Not quite again. I'll post a comment I made in a thread:
"Caribou have a massive sexual dichotomy between their genders. While caribou males are massive, powerful, and smart, caribou females are small and literally lacking in the upstairs compartment. If you were to Switch a caribou female, you'd just have a small, dumb male."
5898510 I know what the cows are like. If you think it is impossible to have and express genuine feelings for someone just because he or she is weak and dumb, you're simply wrong. And once again, there is even an example for this in canon.
5898608 You're right. Sorry, I misinterpreted your statement. My bad.
However, I still don't see how what you said is supposed to explain the caribou's stance toward twins of different genders. And yes, I have given this some thought. Quite a lot, actually.
5898636 The thing about female caribou is they are weak in mind and body. Being born as a twin to one I could see as others going "He has feminine weakness" as in 'his mind and body are weak'. Not about emotions.
5898654 Let me make the case a little bit clearer. In case of Gunne and Ginna, if what you said was really the only reason, why did Gunne's father act out his frustration on Ginna, if it was Gunne who was supposed to be the one negatively affected? Of course, you could shrug this off by saying that Ginna was an easier target, but I think that's just handwaving. But then again, there might be another reason. If the caribou believe that in case of twins of different genders, the stag has gotten some part of the cow's "feminine weakness", it stands to reason that they also believe that the cow might have gotten some part of the stag's "masculine strength" (physical, mental, etc.) - which then subsequently has to be beaten out of her. But why?
5898703 I think there's a more general issue hidden here. We all know of the cows' weaknesses. But if the caribou see "female weakness" as a bad thing, why do they enforce it? To be frank, I think the caribou ideology of "male superiority" is still one big case of a naturalistic fallacy, even despite the cows' weaknesses. But this leads to the question: Why do they commit this fallacy? Either most of the stags have just as much pudding in their heads as the cows, or caribou ideology is rooted in emotion and not in reason - and I still believe this emotion is fear.
5895137 When you say that Vestri eventually comes to love Sunrise, what exactly does that entail? Will he eventually gracefully allow her to speak freely? Will he allow her to sit at the table and eat with him instead of having her eat out of a pet bowl? Does he stop trying to scare her straight by threatening to give her to his brother? Does he stop passing her around like some kind of toy? Does he stop beating her up for every little deviation? Does he at the very least start to treat her reasonably instead of constantly using her as a punching bag? And does he ever make up or at least apologize for all the horrible things he has done to her? After he cuts off her horn, he doesn't apologize for having to do that, he beats her again for not keeping her composure while being mutilated and gang-raped (!). Will we eventually see him apologize for cutting off her horn?
Just as a short reminder, we are not talking about a consensual D/s relationship here. Not even remotely. There are also a few people who love their pet dogs (and they usually treat them better than Vestri treats Sunrise, at least so far), but I'm not sure that's what you meant when you said Sunrise and Vestri eventually love each other. Is what Sunrise comes to feel for Vestri really the same thing as what he comes to feel for her?
5900598 Yes, though to what, you'll have to find out. Keep in mind this isn't "Everyone's equal" anymore, and even on the battlefield love can bloom. If you think that love can't happen anymore because of what Fall of Equestria is and what goes on in it, you're sorely wrong.
If you think that love can't happen anymore because of what Fall of Equestria is and what goes on in it, you're sorely wrong.
That may be. My question simply is: What exactly do you mean by "love"? Personally, I actually believe that love between a mare and a stag is possible, if very unlikely. I just don't think that Sunrise and Vestri are an example of this. I've already told you what it would take to convince me. Also, nothing I wrote has anything to do with gender equality - only with a minimum of decency. Even just calling it chivalry would already be an exaggeration, but yes, I believe that this is a necessary condition for love under those circumstances. At this point, it is impossible that Vestri comes to love Sunrise without coming to feel at least some kind of regret for what he did to her. It's simply a necessary requirement. As long as he doesn't feel and show any regret, he also doesn't love her. It's as simple as that. (As for Sunrise herself, Stagholm syndrome simply isn't love.)
5901638 You're looking at this from the views of a human. I'm looking at this from both the views of the caribou and Sunrise. Sunrise would certainly be suffering from Stockholm, but Vestri would not.
No, I'm looking at this from the semantics of the term "love". You seem to be either unable or unwilling to even explain what you mean when you say that they love each other - while I can explain what I'm talking about. I can even give you a caribou example. Gunne actually does feel regret for being unable to protect his sister from his father all those years. And Vestri (at least arguably) has even more to regret when it comes to Sunrise.
As prosaic and unromantic as it may sound, love is not a matter of perspective. I would even be willing to concede that Vestri may come to believe that he loves Sunrise - but believing doesn't make it so. Incidentally, "you're only looking at this from a human point of view" is also a very classical religious argument. It has never been convincing, and for good reason. It's also not convincing in this case. In order to be convincing, you would have to be able to show me the caribou point of view, and explain it to me in a way I understand. Otherwise, there is no reason for me to assume that I'm wrong, but still plenty of reason to assume that I'm right. Maybe the caribou see it differently - but this wouldn't be the first time where they see something the wrong way. Now don't get me wrong: Of course I'd like to understand the way they see it, even if it turns out to be wrong - but right now you're not even giving me the chance. And that makes your point moot at best.
Sunrise would certainly be suffering from Stockholm, but Vestri would not.
Fair enough, but that doesn't prove that he loves her.
5901710 Plain and simple? Whatever twisted way the caribou show love. They don't believe they're wrong, and they don't see wrong in what they do, so their emotions follow those lines. Which means that what love they show also goes along those lines.
Man that was a long chapter. I was thinking about the previous chapter and how the Caribou salute. You said they have a fist over their chest? Is that a reference to the nazi salute, in which they place a curled fist over their heart?
On another note, this entire chapter I just wanted to fucking kill those Caribou in many ways, both those painful and those quick. Why aren't there more stories of someone from another dimension getting tossed in here to fix shit? I love those stories. Then again, that's just me.
This story is interesting nonetheless, and definitely provides a more unique point of view than any other. If it can make me as angry as this one did (in a good way), then it's got potential.
5357919 No, not like that salute. It's actually a common salute amongst various people. I like it, myself.
5357919 Besides, my friend, that's not a Nazi Salute.
A Nazi Salute is if the person stretches is right arm in the air and holds his hand flat.
The one you are talking about is a Roman Salute. Centurions saluted this way.
And Twipet, great chapter. If these things will make your blood boil, then you are doing good.
5363120 I read a book a while back about a living in Nazi Germany. He was executed at the age of about 15 because he was posting flyers of the Nazi's lies, which he heard of on a radio his brother, in the German army, had gotten off of the black market. I could swear I remember that being the way he saluted while in school.
*Slow clap*
Reading though the first half of this is really wanting me to see a comic adaption of this story, Because I like surreal nudity that's the main thing that attracted me to FoE, So I love those scene where Sunny is bathing and prepping her self plus when she's running thought the woods and just having normal interactions that nonsexual. It's also because this story is all OCs most of witch never been depicted visually its hard to keep track of characters and what they look like. Last the visual scope.
Now about the butt plug loosening Sunny's asshole, Isn't there a reason why the anus is so tight? Like to stop people from some shitting them selves? Also with how raw her butthole got rubbed definitely sounds like she should get hemorrhoids. I mean I know people that hemorrhoids from being kicked up the butt and using leaves to wipe themselves, what worst they tell me once you get them they keep flaring up so the anal sex shell keep getting won't help matters. Then you have bladder infection from the vaginal abuse. Although I doubt that the Twipet will go into Sunny suffering from incontinence and hemorrhoid flareups and swollen bladder caused by the abuse that the caribous giving her. But the sadist to me wants to see that!
Near the end I was hoping that they would show Sunny eating mare food out of a pet bowl. I also can hope that Vestri was going to give her some meat. In real life caribou are omnivores which means they eat both plants and meat. It would be likely adorable to see Vestri give Sunny sausage, it's like I think people do with horses well they give them hot dogs eat.
5382828 The only thing that will be happening is that Sunrise will have to eat out of a pet dish.
I can only hope that this ends happily, but I just have a feeling that won't be so.
5417845 When has FOE ever ended happily for the readers? For the characters, perhaps.
5418736 Well, seeing as this is in the main FoE group, it'll possibly end in slavery for e'rry nation.
when is a other chapter coming out??
5456630 It's going to be a big chapter, plus I haven't been writing over the holidays. You'll know when it's released.
I realy liked your story and i want more of it
I realy want to know, when will you post the other parts ,and how much will be there
5491904 Soon. I'm writing a few stories at the same time. You can expect plenty of others stories to come from me soon.
5363120
Each one of you is half right. The Nazi salute was actually displayed by putting one's right fist to the chest first, then stretching it out in the air and holding the hand flat.
Sunny. You may not have magic. But I get you full control of the void. Learn to use it.
How long are you writting the 4th chapter
5636364 I'm taking a short break to get my creative juices flowing again. The fourth chapter will be pretty long.
will be there a happy end
and can you make it romantic,i mean to make vestri to fall in love with sunny and to
make her like his girlfriend not like his slave,to make them a little bit more loving each other
and thanks for reading my advice,i hope you will make sunny's life filled with a little bit more love
5637020 Any hint on the release date? Maybe an eta?
5731950 Next month most likely.
is the new chapter coming soon?
5880929 I hope so! It's slow going. Don't worry, the story's not abandoned.
will it be the last chapter
5885667 Not even close to the last chapter.
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5890600 Don't worry! This OP always delivers! It's just a very long wait because of writer's block, busy stuffs, and working on several other things at once. You should expect (Hopefully) one of my next stories by the end of the month, and (hopefully) the next chapter of Sun's Setting next month. It's been a looooong wait and drive.
5685545
I would almost have laughed at the idea of a stag genuinely falling in love in an official FoE story. But then I remembered that a stag in love is actually not entirely without precedent. So maybe we will see it here as well.
5893350 It happens quite often. Vestri and Sunrise do eventually love each other.
5895137
That may be. However what's really odd is that caribou law and culture seem to do everything possible to prevent genuine relationships between a male and a female. Many elements of their culture simply don't make any sense except as a means to make sure genuine emotional connection doesn't happen - like seeing twins of different genders as a bad omen and ostracizing them, for example. The caribou seem to be afraid of love.
5897528 Not quite. The twins thing I can see from their side. A strong male with a weak female in the same birth? The male's cursed with feminine weakness. Either way, love still blooms everywhere. But mostly we get to see rampaging fuck stallions rather than personal relationships.
5897889
Eh, that's exactly what I meant, just in other words. In this context, the fear of "feminine weakness" is the fear of genuine emotions and their free expression.
5898504 Not quite again. I'll post a comment I made in a thread:
"Caribou have a massive sexual dichotomy between their genders. While caribou males are massive, powerful, and smart, caribou females are small and literally lacking in the upstairs compartment. If you were to Switch a caribou female, you'd just have a small, dumb male."
5898510
I know what the cows are like. If you think it is impossible to have and express genuine feelings for someone just because he or she is weak and dumb, you're simply wrong. And once again, there is even an example for this in canon.
5898523 Tarvoc, you're the one saying that. I've been saying that feelings and love happen all the time.
5898608
You're right. Sorry, I misinterpreted your statement. My bad.
However, I still don't see how what you said is supposed to explain the caribou's stance toward twins of different genders. And yes, I have given this some thought. Quite a lot, actually.
5898636 The thing about female caribou is they are weak in mind and body. Being born as a twin to one I could see as others going "He has feminine weakness" as in 'his mind and body are weak'. Not about emotions.
5898642
I see. I guess I can see some reason to this.
I still think that's not all that's going on here though. And yes, I still think it's also about emotions.
5898650 Oh, that's my take on it. I don't know the full story behind his 'curse' yet and the reasoning.
5898654
Let me make the case a little bit clearer. In case of Gunne and Ginna, if what you said was really the only reason, why did Gunne's father act out his frustration on Ginna, if it was Gunne who was supposed to be the one negatively affected? Of course, you could shrug this off by saying that Ginna was an easier target, but I think that's just handwaving. But then again, there might be another reason. If the caribou believe that in case of twins of different genders, the stag has gotten some part of the cow's "feminine weakness", it stands to reason that they also believe that the cow might have gotten some part of the stag's "masculine strength" (physical, mental, etc.) - which then subsequently has to be beaten out of her. But why?
5898671 That's why I said it's some of my reasoning. I don't know the full reasons, yet.
5898703
I think there's a more general issue hidden here. We all know of the cows' weaknesses. But if the caribou see "female weakness" as a bad thing, why do they enforce it? To be frank, I think the caribou ideology of "male superiority" is still one big case of a naturalistic fallacy, even despite the cows' weaknesses. But this leads to the question: Why do they commit this fallacy? Either most of the stags have just as much pudding in their heads as the cows, or caribou ideology is rooted in emotion and not in reason - and I still believe this emotion is fear.
5895137
When you say that Vestri eventually comes to love Sunrise, what exactly does that entail? Will he eventually gracefully allow her to speak freely? Will he allow her to sit at the table and eat with him instead of having her eat out of a pet bowl? Does he stop trying to scare her straight by threatening to give her to his brother? Does he stop passing her around like some kind of toy? Does he stop beating her up for every little deviation? Does he at the very least start to treat her reasonably instead of constantly using her as a punching bag? And does he ever make up or at least apologize for all the horrible things he has done to her? After he cuts off her horn, he doesn't apologize for having to do that, he beats her again for not keeping her composure while being mutilated and gang-raped (!). Will we eventually see him apologize for cutting off her horn?
Just as a short reminder, we are not talking about a consensual D/s relationship here. Not even remotely. There are also a few people who love their pet dogs (and they usually treat them better than Vestri treats Sunrise, at least so far), but I'm not sure that's what you meant when you said Sunrise and Vestri eventually love each other. Is what Sunrise comes to feel for Vestri really the same thing as what he comes to feel for her?
5900598 Yes, though to what, you'll have to find out. Keep in mind this isn't "Everyone's equal" anymore, and even on the battlefield love can bloom. If you think that love can't happen anymore because of what Fall of Equestria is and what goes on in it, you're sorely wrong.
5901525
That may be. My question simply is: What exactly do you mean by "love"? Personally, I actually believe that love between a mare and a stag is possible, if very unlikely. I just don't think that Sunrise and Vestri are an example of this. I've already told you what it would take to convince me. Also, nothing I wrote has anything to do with gender equality - only with a minimum of decency. Even just calling it chivalry would already be an exaggeration, but yes, I believe that this is a necessary condition for love under those circumstances. At this point, it is impossible that Vestri comes to love Sunrise without coming to feel at least some kind of regret for what he did to her. It's simply a necessary requirement. As long as he doesn't feel and show any regret, he also doesn't love her. It's as simple as that. (As for Sunrise herself, Stagholm syndrome simply isn't love.)
5901638 You're looking at this from the views of a human. I'm looking at this from both the views of the caribou and Sunrise. Sunrise would certainly be suffering from Stockholm, but Vestri would not.
5901708
No, I'm looking at this from the semantics of the term "love". You seem to be either unable or unwilling to even explain what you mean when you say that they love each other - while I can explain what I'm talking about. I can even give you a caribou example. Gunne actually does feel regret for being unable to protect his sister from his father all those years. And Vestri (at least arguably) has even more to regret when it comes to Sunrise.
As prosaic and unromantic as it may sound, love is not a matter of perspective. I would even be willing to concede that Vestri may come to believe that he loves Sunrise - but believing doesn't make it so. Incidentally, "you're only looking at this from a human point of view" is also a very classical religious argument. It has never been convincing, and for good reason. It's also not convincing in this case. In order to be convincing, you would have to be able to show me the caribou point of view, and explain it to me in a way I understand. Otherwise, there is no reason for me to assume that I'm wrong, but still plenty of reason to assume that I'm right. Maybe the caribou see it differently - but this wouldn't be the first time where they see something the wrong way. Now don't get me wrong: Of course I'd like to understand the way they see it, even if it turns out to be wrong - but right now you're not even giving me the chance. And that makes your point moot at best.
Fair enough, but that doesn't prove that he loves her.
5901710 Plain and simple? Whatever twisted way the caribou show love. They don't believe they're wrong, and they don't see wrong in what they do, so their emotions follow those lines. Which means that what love they show also goes along those lines.