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1223869>>1223888

Dude...when you join the military...uh. I am speechless. We happen to get deployed, it's just part of the job man.

Surely this soldier jests...he jests...right?

Silver out!

1223977

I'm huge fan of them, obviously.

Also, what is the point of joining the military if you aren't prepared to fight? That's...kind of the point of having a military, except for maybe...deterrence or something but you get my point.

E-3 USAF

Silver out!

'Oh hey, imma go play soldier!' goes to basic, then comes back 'wow...i could die...' Every one consciously objects to dying brosky, you could die driving a car. Go do what you signed up for.

1223888>>1223869 I'm sorry, but who are you two to pass judgement on this man? I don't agree with him, but then again, I'm not him, so how can I know what reasons he has for not wanting to fight. He didn't give an interview from what I saw. So if this man wants out of my Army, I'll wish him the best. But I will not sit idly back while two others insult him for his choice. As bronies, you two should know better, you made a choice that used to garnish much more ridicule than he has, but now you sit here and call him a pussy? Way to go battle, way to go.

Yeah, from one soldier to another, if you enlist during war-time status, you are going to march to war. It is that simple. C.O. status needs to be signaled at the time of enlistment, not a week before you deploy overseas. In other words, f you, you cowardly sack of s.

He is an embarrassment to the uniform. Don't send him overseas, but slap him with a dishonorable on his way out.

To all of those thinking about enlisting: do not enlist for the benefits, it ain't worth it. The government will f you over daily for your entire enlistment. Enlist only if you have a strong desire to serve your country, and are willing to kill and die defending it.

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The other two have full right to make this call. They both are military. For a decision like this, you either get deployed, while being told to shove your C.O. status request where the sun don't shine, or receive a dishonorable discharge (which does f your life up, and I mean worse than a few violent felonies on your brand new criminal record). As heartless as it sounds, I don't care if his two-year-old needs open heart surgery. You do not call for a C.O. status discharge a week before deploying. That's just straight up cowardice. In the previous example, you request a hardship discharge (which is a legit request, and would allow him to leave with dignity and honor).

1224119
Right with you brother. I fought to finish my training after a back injury (which resulted in me getting medically dismissed anyway) so that I could deploy with friends of mine who were prepping to deploy. Two of those friends didn't make it home after I got my discharge orders. I'd say that my opinion on this matter is also valid.

PS: save being nice for someone who deserves it. The man is a disgrace to the US Army, and deserves worse than just being called a coward on the Internet.

1224119

We have the right because we are both enlisted.

But being active duty, well I'd say that gives me a pretty valid opinion on the matter.

Let me stop you right there son. You are not Gods gift to the Army. So don't go there. And for the love of God himself, stop acting like you're better than this man. Treat him with the respect he deserves for even enlisting, and try to show a little understanding toward his cause. Once we have all the details, go ahead and speak your mind. Hell I encourage you too. But pay him the common courtesy of at least hearing him out.

1224329
Yeah, I was going to power through it, but the injury kept interfering with working out (ex: I could run a mile before the pain would force me to limp) and it would have resulted in me being disallowed to join the branch I wanted (11A all the way, HOOAH ). Tried to suck it up, but my body gave out before my spirit did. To this day, I'm still looking at ways to get back in. Even if it means I've got to...Ugh...join the Marine Corp ()

As for being nice, I'm the same. In person, I'd just shake my head and walk away. Still, I'll call a duck, a duck. One of the many reasons why I couldn't survive as a politician (of which, I'm incredibly proud to be able to make that statement ).

1224297
Welcome to the warrior culture. In these kinds of situations, you are guilty until proven innocent according to the unit. No matter what you say, that's the culture, and those in the culture are not going to change it just because you don't like it. You suck up whatever complaints/doubts/feelings you've got, and focus on getting your brothers and sisters home safe before, during and after a deployment. That's the primary goal of everyone who deploys. Go there, get the job done, and bring everyone home.

I showed this link to my brother. He was upset about the petition people have started in his defense. He said he will be making his own petition called, "Tax payers for making soldiers fight." He said, "My taxes pay his benefits, he better go fight!"

1224462
Eh, I'm the stereotypical warrior. I want to deploy, and I want to go into combat (reasoning from someone who hasn't been there: better me, who can take the pounding, than someone else who can't). Besides, I don't think I could take all of the griping about the A/C being out while inside a building, in the middle of a rainstorm.

Also, what would I do in the Chair Force? Occupy more chairs? Those guys have been doing that since 1948, and I don't think I could compete with them. They've got that down to an art...They really need to find a new hobby.

PS: What's your rating? Father served in the Navy (should have heard him, when I broke the news about joining the Army, kept blaming himself for "going wrong somewhere"), as an armory specialist then became a Mustang and got transferred over to Intel.

PPS: Feel free to make as many Military Intel jokes as you need to get it out of your system. I've probably used them all in the twenty+ years of living with my parents

1224416 And I'm not arguing that. I'm saying I find it wrong for anyone to publicly disrespect a fellow service member, regardless of the reason. When I was in, I strived to always hold myself to the highest standards of discipline, and still do to this day. So I find it hard to sit here and let this man go undefended. I don't agree with him, but it's not my place to say so and bash him and insult him. I was raised to come to the aid of those who need it, even if I disagree with them, because that's what being a soldier is about. Not guns and macho, but doing what is right when no one else will even look at the situation.

On a different note, good job being Navy, if you ever find yourself on Oahu, look up Killer Tacos on the north shore. Damned good food.

1224441 I'm sorry about your friends amigo, and your injuries. Thank you for your service.

I don't think anyone has any sort of grounds to judge this man... if what his wife stated is true... and he changed dramatically in basic training... than the only thing that happened is that basic missed one unfit soldier. No process is perfect... and I don't blame civilians for not supporting war.

IMO: If you are completely opposed to war AFTER basic training (to the point where you will not serve)... you aren't a soldier, and you were probably confused in the first place.

On a personal note, I don't approve of war... but I have things that I would gladly put myself in harm's way if it would ensure the protection of those small beautiful things that I have found in our nation... That's how I can cope with the fact that I might have to go into combat. (Although my job doesn't really deploy..)

1224040 Hold on a second. Who am I? I'm a reservist who would love to go active duty and has been avidly pushing the paper work to do so. While others might not share my enthusiasm, there are tons of prior service I know who are pushing to do the same. Prior service members would kill for an active duty slot, and gladly go on a deployment. For little Mosquito-wing-McFuckface totry and bitch out right after getting his deployment orders, it's disgraceful. And don't pull that "you're a brony" shit on me. I'm a soldier first... when I can put it first... two days a month, one month a year.

1224676 Thanks, battle. I just finished pushing in my final round of paper work so it should be going through pretty soon though. Since my unit decided to axe my entire section, they have to relocate me and putting me active is a lot less of a PITA than getting me another position in the terribly over-strength Army Reserve.

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Navy ground pounder......Like military intelligence, an oxymoron Except for the JSOC and SOCOM outfits, but they are always the exception (plus they always get all of the fun toys ).

I've got a family member in every branch of service (except for the canoe club), so I get a nice "preview" of what life would be like. That an a friend that got in the USAF as enlisted SECFOR. Job does sound interesting.

Submariner? So you're the squidy that is stealing all of the good food?!

1224554
I may be down, but like a good soldier, I'm not out yet. Poking around ways to fix my back, with a Gunnery Sergeant drooling over putting me into Marine OCS in 2014/2015.

While I do believer we are being a little harsh (generally), he's not exactly giving himself a defensible position. If he wants out, fine just be sure to accept the punishment that comes with violating a sworn oath as well. Find a way to do it legally, and make sure you do everything you can to save face, without making yourself look like a cowardly fface (not easy, had an Army Cadet that just went UA after the first semester of training, he even transferred out of the University he was attending [he lived in my building, a floor down], and while the Cadre wasn't happy, the Cadets were even more so). Using the C.O. clause to do it, however, isn't the best way from a PR standpoint. In fact, it's one of the worst ways to do it. If anything, he seems to be actively trying to bring the anger down on himself.

1224712
Yeah, I was Army ROTC for 2.5 years before discharge. At the time, they were looking for any reason to axe Cadets. We were somewhere around 103% strength (all Army Reserve), and I think Cadet strength was somewhere around 175% (for my Regiment, I think). I was partly glad to get discharged, if only to free up an Active-Duty scholarship that I couldn't use for another Cadet.

1224763
Yeah they are. I give 'em a hard time, only because an Army ex-Cadet (now a 2LT, from what I've heard, and that's a year or so old) friend of mine is an Army Combat Engineer, and my grandfather served as one during WWII.

1224656 Best of luck on your slot then brother. All I'm saying is act a bit more professional in how you go about talking about this issue. He may be in the wrong, but we should not do our Corps dishonor by looking and sounding like a bunch of jackasses.
1224752 Hooah! Best of luck soldier. Wish I could go back in myself, but I'll leave that to guys will all their innards.

1224873 I see your point and I'll cool off the issue, but this isn't really a matter of berating a fellow serviceman who made a mistake so much as it is a brotherhood expressing disgust. I'd equate to the attitudes shared by members of a line on a Phalanx who were abandoned by a single soldier, and must now face the consequences of that soldier's actions. In closing: No enlisted man or tax payer should keep quiet about this, but you're right, that was a bit out of line. I still feel this needs to be brought to people's attention.

1223869
Well he could always quit, but if he wont serve then WTFF HOLY SHIEET!!!!!

Who joins the army, goes through basic and expects not to go to war? If he didn't want to fight he could have gotten a desk job.

1224119

Hooyah.

I personally, am against the War in Afghanistan, but still...

In Canada, we have a regulation that says we aren't allowed to be a conscientious objector... If our supiriors tell us to jump into that trench, and stab that guy in the head, That is a lawful order, that must be carried out.