Okay, Which One of You Guys is This?

We all know at least one of the three is on this site

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[Iredwolf]

how do you describe that?

[Deep]

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Bronies meet target demographic of MLP

[Iredwolf]

5524833

does it count as a cursed image?

[Wydril]

There's four adults there though, there's a guy bending over behind the one in the middle.
5524831
Progressiveness. Progressivism, for clarity.

[Deep]

5524836

Lol I somehow didn't even notice him at first. But since he's not a furry, low chance he's on this site.

Regarding the term "progressive," I'd describe myself as that, and don't consider this progressive at all. Saying anything new and bizzare is progressive is the same as saying anything outdated and bizzare is conservative. By that logic, this is as progressive as wanting to bring back Aztec human sacrifice is conservative and "trad." Both are just idiotic.

[Deep]

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Yep lol. I'm just waiting for FlawlessDeer to make a meme of it lol.

[Iredwolf]

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like he always do, I swear the dude likes to give everyone a good old laugh

[Luminous Grace]

Was gonna say these seem like people who got confusedly stuck somewhere between a BDSM event and a furry convention, but that does describe more than a few people in this glorious fandom.

[Deep]

5524910

It's about 50% of this site openly and 80% of it when you factor in their secrets

Edit: Which one of the three would you pet? Sorry, you have to pick one

[Arthor2017]

What the- It is real? I mean, for real?! What's wrong with those people?

[Deep]

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I just wanna know what's going on in the little girl's head.

When she's older, will she be traumatized? Or will she laugh her ass off at the memory?

[Arthor2017]

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Let's wait ten years from now and see what happens next. If I have to guess, it's her parents fault.

[Wydril]

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That's not "new and bizarre" though, more's the pity, it's been happening for years. It's ironic you mentioned Aztec human sacrifice as a hypothetical example on conservativism:

California’s proposed ethnic studies curriculum urges students to chant to the Aztec deity of human sacrifice.

Next week, the California Department of Education will vote on a new statewide ethnic studies curriculum that advocates for the “decolonization” of American society and elevates Aztec religious symbolism

The article is from March 10th of this year, and it passed a week later, for the curious.

[Deep]

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It's ironic you mentioned Aztec human sacrifice as a hypothetical example on conservativism:

I actually heard about that recently lol. Didn't know it passed.

That's not "new and bizarre" though, more's the pity, it's been happening for years

I just used Aztec sacrifice as an exaggerated example of "trad" (though perhaps I should've picked a more "white" tradition). And yeah, this trend of exposing kids to alternative sexual practices has been increasing for the past couple of years. And by "alternative," I mean the example in the pic, not two men kissing.

My issue is that I see no reason to support a change just because it's a change. Just like my conservative friends always make a good point that righties don't need to defend a tradition just because it's a tradition. We pick and choose based on results and sensible logic. So even though some lefties want to push shit like this as progressive, I see no reason not to treat them like freaks.

[Deep]

5524910

I find it funny how you always get dislikes on my blogs. Either someone follows you on a daily basis, or some of my readers don't like you. Maybe both haha.

[Luminous Grace]

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The latter, almost certainly.

Not sure if it applies to my more tame comments too...

[Deep]

5525126

There's usually still a red thumbs down. Let's see if this one gets a red lol.

[Wydril]

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Perhaps it would help if I clarified my initial post somewhat. Rather than "progressiveness", what I really meant was "Progressivism", the idpol social movement aspect that seems to try to constantly outdo itself. Didn't feel like it had the same zing for a one-word response, so I sacrificed some meaning for impact. Progressiveness as a principle can be fine in moderation just like everything, and like everything taking it to the extreme is when it's a problem.
5525126
Is it me? It's probably me. I definitely seem like the type right?

[Deep]

5525137

Rather than "progressiveness", what I really meant was "Progressivism", the idpol social movement aspect that seems to try to constantly outdo itself.

Oh, I know haha. I just personally don't consider that group to be serious people. The pic below is basically how I feel about identity politics (whether they be from the left or right):

pbs.twimg.com/media/EgAM9xfUEAAnQ5x.jpg

Is it me? It's probably me. I definitely seem like the type right?

Plot twist: I kidnap you both and force you to become friends. Friendship shall win... or else!

[Wydril]

5525535
A pretty good reaction.

[Huk]

... these people are a perfect example of why in Poland all sorts of 'Pride Parades' are frowned upon by the majority of the population .

[Deep]

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A part of me actually finds the ability of these people not to give a fuck about social norms extremely admirable. I'm serious lol.

More on topic, though... Electric Grace had a great point in a convo with me that weird overreach like is inevitable but not the norm with Pride, and that Pride events really need to promote a more normal atmosphere that anyone can enjoy. As someone who wants LGBT rights accepted worldwide, having the community be seen as "normal" is better than it being seen as a bunch of perverts. The optics of pics like these only hurts LGBT rights.

[Huk]

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No argument there, I agree completely.

But frankly, I never understood why LGBT people allow such morons to be part of the parade and don't see anything wrong in it. I mean, I get it, there is nothing wrong in, for example, BDSM per se, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea to go out there in a catsuit holding a whip

Some things should be kept private.

[Deep]

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but that doesn't mean it's a good idea to go out there in a catsuit holding a whip

Lol. You have to remember, the point of these Pride events is that they are a direct counter to being forced to remain in the closet for centuries. It's all about showing off your sexuality with zero fucks given, almost to rub it in the faces of homophobes who want LGBT people to hide their true selves. So you can see how quickly this would snowball into people showing off their kinks and fetishes haha. It's just another part of their sexuality that society says should be hidden, so why not express it in an event made for the expression of sexual taboos?

The asshole side of me LOVES this actually. My main issue is that pragmatically, it's not a good look for promoting acceptance. However, I do understand the argument that not long ago, a pic of two guys kissing would result in a moral backlash, no differently than how this pic is resulting in one now. It's a delicate balance when you're trying to win societal support but at the same time realize that being yourself is significantly more important than social norms made by stick in the muds.

[Huk]

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I don't know, man... I see a HUGE difference between showing two people kissing and showing some kink or fetish you have. Instead of a delicate balance, I see here two completely separate things mixed together.

'Being yourself' should not be used as some universal excuse for anything that goes. Unless you're living on some deserted island, there will always be limits to what you can and cannot do - even in more progressive societies.

And you know, just because some rule says some things should be hidden doesn't make them automatically wrong. That's one of the things the present generation gets wrong IMHO - that all social rules and regulations that are in any way limiting are somehow inherently bad and should be abolished...

[Deep]

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I see a HUGE difference between showing two people kissing and showing some kink or fetish you have. Instead of a delicate balance, I see here two completely separate things mixed together.

Oh, I agree. I was just saying that I understand how this slippery slope happens in regards to Pride, since the very public expression of taboo sexuality is kinda the point. That doesn't mean I agree with this pic.

Being yourself' should not be used as some universal excuse for anything that goes. Unless you're living on some deserted island, there will always be limits to what you can and cannot do - even in more progressive societies.

You do know who you're talking to, right?

And you know, just because some rule says some things should be hidden doesn't make them automatically wrong. That's one of the things the present generation gets wrong IMHO - that all social rules and regulations that are in any way limiting are somehow inherently bad and should be abolished...

I overall agree with this, just like how the conservative who wants to preserve all rules is equally idiotic. You have to pick and choose based on some sort of sensible logic. However, that does lead to inevitable subjectivity. For example, I personally am cool with whatever two consenting adults do, even if it's in public because public affection personally doesn't emotionally affect me. However, others are definitely affected by it emotionally. So who gets to determine the rule? Whoever is in the majority? Why should I care about their emotional vulnerability?

As a side note, I actually do agree with the idea that *most* social rules are limiting. Case in point, common social rules like never ask a woman her weight/age or a guy his salary exist to preserve people's fragile egos. What man who is actually happy with his salary wouldn't like answering that question, for example. I see no reason to respect social norms like these, and ironically my social life has gotten significantly better when I stopped caring about them.

[Huk]

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However, that does lead to inevitable subjectivity. For example, I personally am cool with whatever two consenting adults do, even if it's in public because public affection personally doesn't emotionally affect me. However, others are definitely affected by it emotionally. So who gets to determine the rule? Whoever is in the majority? Why should I care about their emotional vulnerability?

Well, that's a good question, isn't it? And there is no easy answer. I definitely wouldn't want something to be denied just because some adult is disgusted by it. People should never be forced to not be themselves just to save someone from getting butt-hurt. If you're not intentionally hurting anyone, society should just f*ck off and let you be - that's the basic idea.

However... aside from adults, there are also little monsters named children living in this world, and AFAIK they CAN get hurt by seeing certain... naughty stuff. That complicates things...

And that's all just about sexual stuff, what about other things? If someone starts demanding to 'respect' his junkie habits and allow him to publicly inject himself with heroin, should we allow it? He's not doing any harm to anyone (but himself), after all, and it should be fairly easy to explain to a kid why doing drugs is bad (easy, compared to explaining the... other thing ).

So... should society deny our junkie his freedom ? Why? Why not?

[Deep]

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However... aside from adults, there are also little monsters named children living in this world, and AFAIK they CAN get hurt by seeing certain... naughty stuff. That complicates things...

Yep. Children are the only reason I don't want the stuff in this pic being in public.

So... should society deny our junkie his freedom ? Why? Why not?

Funny enough, I'm actually for the legalization and regulation of all drugs, heroin included lol. I don't want people doing it in public, but I see no reason to stop them from doing it in private since they're only harming themselves. Obviously things like driving while under the influence would remain illegal though (pro-legalization doesn't mean anti-regulation). All adults should 100% have the right to destroy their *own* lives, whether it's drugs, alcohol, fast food, etc.

As a side note, the legalization of all drugs would probably be better than the current evil that is the US healthcare and pharma industry. And I say that as someone who's inside it

[Huk]

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Yep. Children are the only reason I don't want the stuff in this pic being in public.

My dominatrix says that's only an excuse, and you're just secretly an intolerant BDSMphobe and should be... disciplined

Funny enough, I'm actually for the legalization and regulation of all drugs, heroin included lol.

It makes two of us (as long as you're doing it in private). What happened to 'my body, my choice' damn it ?

I don't want people doing it in public, but I see no reason to stop them from doing it in private since they're only harming themselves.

Why not in public, though ? After all, they're still just destroying their own lives only, so...?

Don't get me wrong, I have similar views, I just believe it perfectly shows that even an open-minded person like you have some limits based on his own believes and experiences. That's why I think 'being yourself' in public will always have limits too, and that people pushing for total freedom of everything and telling others to 'always be yourself!' are in the wrong.

Personally, I believe balance is key, and we shouldn't jump from one extreme (stay hidden in the closet) to another (display your sexual preferences/fetishes/something everywhere you go). But that's just me...

As a side note, the legalization of all drugs would probably be better than the current evil that is the US healthcare and pharma industry. And I say that as someone who's inside it

Man, right now, I'm more concerned with the food industry . Ever since I started keto, I am educating myself on insulin resistance, fasting, how it affects your body, why 'eat less, move more' doesn't work, etc.

When you dig into that and realize that:

• for the last 50 years we've been told total BS based on cherry-picked data
• that 99% of people following mainstream diet plans regain weight within a year or two (or don't lose weight after the initial few kg)
• that all those 'great' mainstream advice like 'eat 6 small meals a day!' or 'less fats, more fruits and whole grains' are actually the exact opposite of what we should be doing...

It makes you wanna grab some weed yourself (apparently, weed is very keto-friendly ). The next time you want to see some evil, don't look at big pharma but at your sugar-ridden plate of corn flakes.

If anyone from 'food pharma' is reading this... FUCK YOU! You can all kiss my ass! ... especially now that it starts fitting my pants again (10 kilos down, 30-40 to go and feeling better than ever !)

[Deep]

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My dominatrix says that's only an excuse, and you're just secretly an intolerant BDSMphobe and should be... disciplined

Well, I don't have any fetishes, so perhaps I do need to be disciplined

Why not in public, though ? After all, they're still just destroying their own lives only, so...?

Because when they're lying around on the ground half-dead, they're in people's way and thus destroying the other person's life. Speaking from experience here, since US cities now are full of junkies and crime since the shutdowns.

Man, right now, I'm more concerned with the food industry

The food industry is unfortunately linked at the hip with big healthcare and pharma. The bullshit paraded around as science and "health" seeps its way from the food and drug industries, into the pockets of admins and doctors, then into the guidelines, and then into the education curriculum itself. I was talking to my girl last night actually about how I feel like a criminal piece of shit just being in the modern healthcare industry

Ever since I started keto, I am educating myself on insulin resistance, fasting, how it affects your body, why 'eat less, move more' doesn't work, etc. When you dig into that and realize that:

I mean, it still works; it's just not the complete picture. I had to self-educate myself on all of this when I was 14, obese and pre-diabetic, since the alternative was mainstream bullshit "advice" and meds.

The next time you want to see some evil, don't look at big pharma but at your sugar-ridden plate of corn flakes

It's evil genius, isn't it I'd still say big pharma is worse since it preys on people who need drugs to live. The food industry just preys on people with a lack of discipline.

especially now that it starts fitting my pants again (10 kilos down, 30-40 to go and feeling better than ever !)

That's awesome, dude! That's a big win already. Keep up updated

[Artist]

This is so wrong