I Had a Run in with Mykan. · 4:22pm Dec 2nd, 2017
Since is my first blog here I might as well give an intro about myself.
Hi. My names Thomas and I'm just a guy who likes reading fanfiction. I don't write often but I come up with stories in my head a lot and I recently created this account mainly not to write but to interact with the MLP fan community
And I just had a run in with the most infamous writer in the fandom....not a great start...
Okay before we get started this is NOT an attack on Mykan this is just me sharing my encounter with the guy.
So let me explain. I intended to stay out of the DakariKingMykan stuff for as long as I could but his newest antics really got me on a personal level and I felt like I had to say something(Apologies for not using the format where you can put stuff in those boxes I haven't figured out yet how to do it)
In Mykans latest story update he killed off Flurry Heart by snapping her neck(Yes really) and In his latest blog post(Seen here https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/783625/advice-is-failure-flurry-hearts-death-scene I'd recomend giving it a quick look to give the full context) he basically was going on about how he was "Scorned" for doing it and defended the action of killing her because it's gore fic, other ponies were dying when equestira was destoryed and that it's "Just a fanfic it's not real".
I tried pointing out to him that maybe just MAYBE the problem wasn't HOW he killed Flurry it's the fact he killed flurry in cold blood at all and that the person who advised him to not post it was probably advising him to not kill Flurry at all therefore he wouldn't get scorned. But of course he didn't listen to me saying she "Had" to die because only the main 6 and the royal princess's could live.
I told him all this DID make him a sicko because he's doing this because he hates cadence. He then said the "How and Why didn't matter" because it's just a fanfic(The how and why DOES matter dude)
I pointed out that Mykan didn't HAVE to Kill Flurry HEart. It was HIS decision he wasn't forced to kill her but of course he said he "Had to" or else he wouldn't be able to sleep at night and that it was fine because Flurry HEart was "Dead weight"
I told him it was a matter of human decency. He said "HUman Decency has no place in war!" I said "This isn't War Mykan. It's fanfiction writing" and what did HE say in response? "No it's not! I'm not writing this stuff for fun, I'm doing it because I'm steamed. These fanfics to me, as well as music are WEAPONS"
There it is people. Clear as crystal. If Mykan doesn't see his fanfics as fanfics why should WE see them as Fanfics?
He then just linked one of his crappy music videos to me(That I didn't watch) and said I was brainwashed by MLP and that no matter what I said sparing Flurry Heart would change nothing. And to be honest...I said he was right...it wouldn't change anything...but he should still do it. Why? because it was the right thing to do.
He asked me if I'd stand by that even if it meant facing his scorn. I said yes. Then he just kinda...ended the talk.
That was pretty much it. I think I might have missed something but I think you got the gist of it. Why'd I share this? I dunno. I guess just after hearing the stories of Mykan I wanted to share my experience and see what others think.
But here's something I didn't get to tell Mykan.
Even after everything he said....I still feel sorry for him....
I think I have a lot more sympathy for the guy than some other people. Maybe I see a bit of myself in the guy. A reflection of how I could have turned out if I let my anger get the better of me when I was younger(Me and him have a lot of similarities main difference being I grew up and matured and have accepted friendship.)
So...that's about it.
See ya...for some reason I'm in the mood to watch the episode a Flurry of emotions....
Actually, there wasn't just neck snapping. Logan then tore her head clean off "like a bottle top".
And honestly? I wish I had any positive things to say about the guy anymore. And for the record, I know villains do horrific things like that all the time, but that's only to show how awful a villain is. Here, not only is Count Logan someone we're supposed to sympathize with later, but Mykan's only purpose for writing these fics is to wage war on fictional universes and their fans. He says it'd kill him inside if he doesn't...
It's hard for me to sympathize with people like that. It really is. And I'm sorry you got sucked up into this nonsense...
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Okay sorry about that. But my point still stands you don't just kill a baby graphically.
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Agreed, man... Even his own fans got pushed away when they argued about the event.
And you needn't apologize.
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Okay this isn't really related to anything but I'm a little disappointed in how this journal turned out. Writing isn't my strong suit and sometimes what's in my head doesn't translate well to page and I feel like I messed up the wording in some areas(Particularly the "If Mykan doesn't see his fanfics as "Just fanfics" why should we treat them as "Just fanfics"" part) and I had this huge rant comparing Flurries Death(A meanspirted Jab at cadence) to the death of superman from the comics(a heroic stand showing everything awesome about Superman) in my head planned but a combination of not knowing how to word it and just plain forgetting made me drop it
Still I must have done something right if you agreed with my blog a little.
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Hey, it's alright. Honestly, if you really have problems with how it turned out, there's always the edit feature.
I don't think I'd "sympathize" with him per-se. But I do feel sorry for him. He has such a sad view of life. And what's worse is that he chooses to view the world like that. I have one thing in common with him. And that's that we both are autistic. But I feel sorry for him because I have grown up, I have moved on from getting hurt in life, I don't let events in fiction that I don't like keep me up at night. And I feel sorry for Mykan for all of those.
I've also had my run in with Mykan, which ended pretty well considering his track record. I've heard some of the stories about Mykan. But rather than listen to rumors, I wanted to hear them from the horse's mouth. I approached Mykan to get his side of the story.
But when it comes to his blog post, it uses fallacious logic. He pointed out how he still got scorned, so nothing has changed. But the other guy never said he wouldn't get scorned...
The part I want to point out is the last two words, "as much". It changes the context of what was said, and therefore has the "quote mine" fallacy. He didn't base his argument on the entire quote, he based it off of an specific section of the quote, that without the rest, takes the quote out of context. Not only that, but he uses a strawman fallacy later on when he says...
I'm pretty sure nobody actually says that.
I think it's better to say "If Mykan doesn't see his fanfics as fanfics, why should he think that we see them as fanfics?"
He also used the logic that if killing his characters makes him sick, it would make all of those movies and other media that kill their characters as sick. The logical fallacy in that is that it's a false equivocation. When those movies and other media kill characters, it's out of the desire to create a story, not out of hatred for the characters. Also, they are killing their own characters, not the intellectual properties of others. Once he chooses to kill off one of his own characters, then I may respect him a little more.
What I find ironic is that I could create scenarios that would be much more effective in torturing than Mykan is. And I don't hate the characters he kills/torture. And the reason I'd be better is because I'd do it for creativity. NOT because I hate the character. And as for creativity, Mykan has none. If you've seen one Mykan villain, you've seen them all. I recognized Count Logan, and I've never heard of him until now.
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SenorCornholio did. That's HIS quote. In fact he was also the one who scorned me even though I didn't make Flurry's head get cut off at the start, he told me "For even THINKING of doing it" he would hound on me. So I STILL DID get scorned as much.
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No deal (Not accepted)
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I've given plenty of reasons, and why you can't see that is beyond me
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Yeah I admit I should have worded the "Just a fanfic" rant better but you get my point right?
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That doesn't give you the right to suddenly pretend that everyone else is being brainwashed by the show just because you hate it. If you hate it so much, I avoid it. Otherwise you pretty much lose any and all rights to complain about the show in general, along with any faults the characters ended might have, because as you said on one of your other blogs, you don't care:
https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/767555/my-getting-or-not-getting-the-point
So by that logic, your logic, why should we care about how you feel about the show? Why should we give a damn about your pride? Answer, we shouldn't so we don't. At this point you're doing nothing but shooting yourself in the foot by constantly treating everybody else who likes to show as if they're intellectually inferior to you.
You need to grow up and act like an adult, own up to your own faults, and stop playing the victim card whenever somebody calls you out on your behavior. Because newsflash: the world doesn't revolve around you, and it's not going to kowtow it what you want it to be just because of your "pride".
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Look at it this way, it makes you all better people than he'll ever be.
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Growing up is different for everyone, your point of view doesn't apply to the entire world. Nor does the entire world have to kowtow to what you want it to be.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but growing up is mandatory. And those of us who do are still capable of enjoying the things we love even as children, sure work and real life matters tend to get put first, but that's just common decency. You think it's impossible to grow up and still enjoy:
There are many adults who can still do all those things and then some. The problem is you have the narrowest tunnel vision and can only see what you want to see, all negative and you refuse to see any positives in it. To you growing up is basically:
I happily recommend that you speak so most of the people on this site who either have jobs or patreon account and see how they react. I guarantee you you'll be thoroughly embarrassed.... mainly because you're talking to one of those people right now.
I work throughout the week and yet I can still find time to either enjoying my favorite games, my favorite shows, write my stories, and even spend time with my friends and family. So already your little proclamation that growing up is the worst thing to happen to anyone is falls flat on it's ass.
So now, growing up isn't 100% optional. Everyone has to do it, If you don't then your bills aren't going to get paid, you won't have a job to support yourself, and eventually you'll be out on your behind completly homeless. That's actual reality.
So I suggest you stop pretending like you somehow speak for everyone else just because it's your opinion. The world doesn't revolve around you, stop pretending it should.
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http://us19.chatzy.com/81136363955563
My fan wishes to speak with you (It's a request from him not me)
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Too bad, if he has something to say he can come out to this site and say it for everyone to see. I'm not letting you hide behind someone else just because you can't even defend yourself properly anymore.
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I'm not hiding, I'm in there too...
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Like I said, if your "fan" wants to talk he can talk here. Otherwise I'm not getting roped into that. This is about your attitude towards people who genuinely like the show. This is about how you have the audacity and the nerve to pretend that everyone is either brainwashed by the show or too stupid to know better just because they like something you hate.
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For the record, I told him not to bother with this, but... *Sighs* I don't think this will end well.
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Why? Is making an account here that much of a hassle for him? I'm not budging on this.
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Yeah, I understand what you meant (I think). Basically, if I understand you correctly, if he doesn't consider his fanfics as just fanfics, why should he assume that everyone else should? It's the fact that he doesn't consider them as just fanfics that's the reason they should be taken seriously. He's an anti-brony who actively hates MLP. So what kind of reaction does he expect from the fans when he's in territory where he doesn't belong?
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Exactly my point.
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That is my quote, for the record. Albeit, like you said, out of context.
He's right about one thing. I do see fictional characters as more than just that. They may not be real, but the fact that they were created in the first place and the fact that they exist on some level is enough for me. As silly as I might sound, this applies to any and all fiction I've seen. I sympathize with the heroes of a story and, though I enjoy villains, I normally want the heroes to succeed. Especially if the villain in question is among the worst mankind has to offer. It's this mindset that helps me enjoy a work more, even if it's not necessarily good.
What I've seen in Mykan's worlds are characters punished merely for things that don't suit his worldview, but are otherwise good people. I've seen original characters who perform acts that villains in his favorite shows do, and they're supposed to be the good guys. I've seen worlds where love and friendship are punished, especially if a canon couple is married, and yet at the same time allows his own original characters to wed (the only exception being Spike and Rarity). And worst of all, I've seen heroes like Beast Boy and Davis Motomiya, heroes of their own worlds and major players in saving said worlds, turned into jerks at best for not getting the girl. And at worst, they get turned villainous and die unhappy. Mykan has, at more than one point, said "you have failed me" and self-roleplayed himself shooting Beast Boy in the head. Even though he's supposed to be his favorite.
And it all came to a head with that one, specific scene. A scene where Logan, a character that's supposed to be sympathetic on some level, brutally tears off an infant's head and torches the father alive. And he's told me he plans on having more babies die in Logan's name, just to fuck with me. Hence why I've chosen to not respond to his comment directly. I no longer wish anything to do with someone so vile in attitude, so callous in nature, and so sociopathic in his tendencies.
He's already got me on his list of people he's at "war" with, all because I don't like his actions. And he still thinks it has to do with him spoiling season 7 episodes when they were leaked, instead of an ever-growing list that finally tipped over with one little thing. He's out for me, specifically, with this fic. And I won't goad his ego by reading it any further. He says that's "growing a spine" anyway.
I am, however, of the hope that he'll realize this is wrong. If he has friends, that means he has the potential to be a good person. I honestly pray that he'll realize this and treat everyone else like he treats his friends... With respect. And if he does decide not to be a jerk, I'll even forgive him for all this.
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(I hope you'll forgive me for this wall of text.)
So it's a quote mine. But in my opinion, I still say it's also a strawman, because the way he worded it makes it sound like all of his haters say that. As he worded it...
He's trying to make it look like all his haters think alike, which isn't the case. But to those who would say that, it still doesn't apply because of how he took it out of context. I actually agree that characters are more than just fictional characters. The intent of making characters like that is to get the audience to get emotionally involved in some way. I tend to have a protective nature. And when I say Fluttershy, I was attracted to her. Not in the sense that it was love, but because I had the desire to protect and comfort her. (I can also relate to her the most.) But there are other cases with characters I don't relate to that I still have that desire to protect. Like in The Legend of Spyro series, I had the desire to protect Cynder. In Past Sins, I had the desire to protect Nyx. In Sweetie Bot - A Heart's Warming Tale, Sweetie Belle. In fact, I did a collaboration with someone for a Spyro fanfic, and I allowed one of my characters to be in the story. The audience seemed to love her more than I expected. And I ended up having her killed. Not because of hate or anything like that. But because I knew how people had grow to love her, and how an act like that would elicit such an emotional response. In short, I will kill a character that I love, if I knew it would be beneficial to the plot, and that it would elicit that emotional response with the audience.
In Mykan's case, he sees characters as more than just fictional too. But in a bad way. He wants to either hate on them, or simply whittle them down to their worst trait (sometimes a trait that doesn't even exist), and dial that up to eleven. Or he'll create his own OCs that are stupidly overpowered, the canon characters being stupidly underpowered, and all of his OCs (and his portrayal of canon characters) stupidly generic. As I said in a previous comment...
I recognize him because Count Logan is Titan from his Starfleet Magic series. A destroyer of worlds, super evil, ruthless, and probably just as easily destroyed via Deus Ex Self Insert Character. I don't know enough about the Friendship is Failure series to know how they work. But like his villains, if you've seen one of his fics, you've seen them all.
It's one thing if Titan...I mean Count Logan killed babies as part of the collateral damage. But there's no need for Mykan to specifically target babies. If he had kept the "gas explosion" version as is, at least that would've just been collateral damage and not Mykan Villain #47 specifically targeting a baby.
Like you, I just choose not to read his fanfics. The little I do know probably covers everything he's made anyway. Although in my case, it's because his stories are so boring that it hurts. Seriously, reading his stories are like trying to swim through molasses. I'm surprised I'm not on his hitlist. But maybe it's because I can talk to him without letting bias get in the way. And I'm also able to understand how his mind works to some degree (seeing as we're both on the spectrum). And ironically, one of the things that the autistic mind does is places a lot of value in the bond of friendship. And when that bond is broken, it really does hurt for autistics. That coupled with the fact that it's harder for autistics to make new friends makes it hurt that much worse when we lose friends. It's also hard for the autistic mind to let things like that go. Which is why I feel sorry for him. I understand him in a way that allot of other people probably don't. And it almost scares me to think that if things like that had happened to me, I may have been another Mykan. Perhaps my logical mind wouldn't allow that to happen. But I can't know for sure.
I believe he does have the "potential" to be a good person. I just think he doesn't know how to. There's so many bad things that have happened to him that it has corrupted his worldview to reject good things. And for this reason, he's incapable of learning the friendship lessons that the show provides, because of his rejection of good "working". How I see it, I hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. And unfortunately, the worst feels like the more plausible scenario (the worst being that he's corrupted to a point where he's a lost cause). I just hope I'm wrong about that being the more plausible scenario.
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I'm actually autistic too. And I've been afraid of falling straight into that boat for a long time, now... I guess that's why I'm so sensitive to him. He's essentially a bad future version of me (being 8 years older, and all). I pity him, but our conflicting morals make it difficult for us to really have a comfortable conversation.
That being said, I did end up getting along just fine with his friend. You know, once I actually struck a good conversation. ^~^
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I assure you both, the worst you are thinking of is never going to happen. (So stop worry)
But the best is not going to happen either (I don't want it... not your way anyway. I don't like your ideas)
Senor, my friend is here if you wish to talk with him...
http://us19.chatzy.com/81136363955563
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I will not explain, (Not here anyway)
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I didn't dodge it, I told you to think reality (How would a REAL person take it)
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Just tell me, then. How have you held onto your friends? You had to have been nice enough to them for them to want to help you. So maybe there's something there and you don't even realize.
Also, I'm currently in class.
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That point where you said " I've seen heroes like Beast Boy and Davis Motomiya, heroes of their own worlds and major players in saving said worlds, turned into jerks at best for not getting the girl. And at worst, they get turned villainous and die unhappy." really hit home for me. I didn't mention this before but Mykan messaged me again trying to defend himself(AKA he was bored and wanted to get into a fight) and at one point we got into an argument about Beast Boy. Mykan basically saying that Beast Boy has been through so much crap in his life and that so many people don't accept him for who he is except Terra who "coldly dumped him" that it was natural he'd turn evil. I pointed out that is not who Beast Boy is. Yes Garfield did go through a lot of crap in his life but he NEVER gave up even when it would have been easy to. He just kept on joking and smiling and being a hero and the Titan's DID accept him for who he is. And there are millions of people in the real world who have gone through MUCH worse crap than Beast Boy and also never gave. But of course he didn't listen and said that "Some isn't everyone" my response? "Some is enough...and why can't Beast Boy be one of those some?". Of course he dodged the question.
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(Claps) Great speech about autistic people and why Mykan might have ended up the way he did. And just like you I might have been in danger of turning out like him. I can even point to a specific instance. A web show I really liked called "Total Pokemon Neighborhood" got deleted for copyright and the owner has shown no signs of coming back and I was really attached to it. It took me 5 YEARS to finally get over it and accept it was just a stupid web series and the characters lived on through me. And like Mykan when I make stories I tend to copy from other works(Main difference being I actually change the plot to fit the new context and have everyone act like themselves unlike Mykan)
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Well, his morals conflict with mine too, at least from what I understand. But I don't think he likes that I'm conversing with you, considering what he said about you. When I talk with him, I don't judge him based on what other people say about him. Just like when I talk to you, I don't base you off of what Mykan says about you. If I did that, I'd assume you were a total jerk.
In a recent PM, he said that I can't be on both sides, so I have to pick one. The side I choose is the third side, which is neutral.
He also seems to think that the worst we think he'll do would be to become a criminal. I had to point out that the worst case scenario that I mentioned would was based in the context of the conversation. I never considered him becoming a criminal in the context of that discussion.
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Thanks. If his past involves losing a friend, I have that experience. It took awhile to get over it, especially considering how I lost that friend. It would've been 14 years ago (summer of 2003) I got in a fight with my friend. I know I should've walked away. But my own pride got in the way. Then it got to the point where I had a rock thrown at my head, and something just snapped. I attacked them. Not really in a way that would cause too much harm. But I just wasn't myself. I ended up getting taken in my the police. To this day, I still can't understand why I tried to put up a fight against the police...why I would even consider that. Even when I was being held in custody, the guard could see that the person they were guarding was not the same person that they took into custody. Even in the police car, when I looked in my reflection in the window, I saw a complete stranger. It's strange when you have a memory that doesn't even feel like your own.
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What did he say about me?
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He didn't mention you. At least not to my knowledge.
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Oh I misread your response to SenorCornholio and thought it was meant for me. My apologies
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Yes in in reality not everyone is gonna become a mass murdering psychopath just because they had a bad life. SOME people do but not everyone and you have given NO reason as to why Beast Boy can't be one of those who DOESN'T go evil other than "I say so"
Could someone please explain to me why this monster has not been banned yet?
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I wish I knew....
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Okay I know it's been a while(And I don't fully expect you to respond to this) but you mentioned "If his past involves losing a friend" in a comment and I was talking to Mykan again and guess what? It does.
I was talking to Mykan again and he mentioned an incident in his past where a girl he had been friends with since Pre School in mykans words "Found new friends and acted like she didn't know me" during Grade 7 and because of that "Friendship failed him"
Suddenly Mykan's dislike of things change makes SO much more sense
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It makes sense when taking that into consideration. But even though it explains his attitude, it still doesn't justify his attitude.
I personally have no problem with character deaths, but "Count Logan" is a character we're suppose to harbor sympathy. I'm having none of it. At the end of Star Wars, the galaxy didn't forgive Vader just because he killed the emperor. In fact, saying anything good about Vader 20-30 years after is death is political suicide. Beast Boy was forgiven easily despite doing nothing to earn it. The blame is shifted to the Titans. Sure, they made him destroy planets left and right. Give me a break.
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(Someone read Star Wars Bloodlines) Yeah that's something that really bothered me. Mykan said point blank to my face he was trying to make it look like the Titans fault that beast boy went evil. A) The Titans would NEVER drive him to that point It's another case of Mykan only seeing what HE wants to see. BEast Boys friends abusing him and treating him like crap even though in reality what Mykan is seeing is harmless teasing(Mykan seems to have this idea that Friendship has to have 100% positive interactions which just proves Mykan doesn't understand friendship at all) and B) He's basically trying to tell a story where Beast Boy turns evil but also wanting Beast Boy to look as innocent as possible which is the stupidest thing I ever heard. I think the term is "Having your cake and eating it too"
Friendship is Failure 10 End of Ends in many ways is everything that is wrong with Mykans work. Turning heroes into jerkasses for not getting the girl, Bashing MLP, Treating Women as if they are a prize to be won and putting all the blame on them when a relationship doesn't work out, Refusing to believe in friendship, making a character suffer for petty reasons, propping up his characters over character he hates. I could list more but I think you get the point.
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Speaking of Star Wars, let's see what our friend Darth Revan said about Darth Malak
That's why I never buy the whole overly angsty "you made me do this" mentality.
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KOTOR reference...Nice.
because killing a f*cking baby in a story because dead weight is totally justified and not sick and disgusting at all