I totally agree with Twilight's rage rant. Due to Celestia's reckless actions. Shining Armor got injured, a guard from the Apple Family sadly died, and a friend of Rarity is now a prisoner of Hitler and his fascist country.
Now, Nazi Germany will learn of Equestria ( and possibly the other MLP Non-Pony Races in Equis ). And maybe the other Axis Powers ( Fascist Italy, and Imperial Japan ) would be interested.
Speaking of which? Besides, Equestria and the Ponies being involved. Will other MLP Races be involved to aid the Ponies. Because, this is a serious world matter.
Applejack looks at Twilight and clears her throat, "Sorry Twilight, but ah agree with the degree of caution that was taken. As she told us, tensions were high. Ah don't know about any of y'all but ah wouldn't like it if their war came to this world, ah like how beautiful our world is without them humans wrecking it with their war machines."
And how the fuck is she even element of honesty for encouraging that? She can't lie but somehow can encourage others to do something like that ?
Adolf is standing over a table looking at a map detailing the city of Paris when he hears a knock at the door, looking up at it in annoyance, "Eingeben! (Enter)"
Sgt Gunter enters the room carrying a large gunny sack, then stands in attention and salutes his leader, "Sieg Heil Meine Führer! (Hail victory, my leader!)"
The chancellor looks at the SS NCO and returns the salute with a wave, "Was bringt dich hierher, Soldat, warum störst du mich? Ich bin beschäftigt! (What brings you here, soldier, why are you bothering me? I'm busy!)" while slamming a fist onto the table with an angry glare directed towards the NCO.
I don't think that a soldier of this rank would be allowed to meet Adolf,especially without many guards guarding him.
It would be like a USA soldier wanting to talk with the president.
NCO is a Non-Commissioned Officer rank. It also looks like he is a Unteroffizier , a Sergeant by the "Sgt Gunter" part
10819304 While being SS would allow some corners to be cut, this is bringing a live animal through security, there should be one or two officers either with or replacing the sergeant ...
Still, leaving the portal open is FRICKIN stupid! And it won't matter on Applejack's hopeless opinion anyway, since Nazi Germany might come to them later on. And they will see what Germany's War Machines ( Tanks, Planes, Ships, Submarines, Motorcycles, Half-Track Vehicles, etc. )
Speaking about Applejack.
Applejack looks at Twilight and clears her throat, "Sorry Twilight, but ah agree with the degree of caution that was taken. As she told us, tensions were high. Ah don't know about any of y'all but ah wouldn't like it if their war came to this world, ah like how beautiful our world is without them humans wrecking it with their war machines."
I DON'T like how she is saying that, about Humanity as a whole.
10820032 To be honest, if the third Reich will find oil in Equestria it will buy them some time in WW2 but still.... Which means they will still lose WW2 on Earth, not to ponies in Equestria but to allies in Europe
In the end, the main reasons for Third Reich to fail in WW2 were: -Devastated Wehrmacht after failed Britain raids, that wasn't a priority to rebuild, so no good air superiority in time.
-Not simplicated assembly of tanks, planes, etc, and unreliability and overcomplication of other machines.
-Not focusing on production, reliability, and upgrading of the medium tanks, like Panzer III and also its stug variants.
The Stugs out-killed all the German armored vehicles while at the same time providing much needed infantry support. Contrary to popular belief, Allied armies in fact very rarely used captured German equipment since stuff like Tigers and Panthers were too unreliable to use. The sole exception was the Panzer III, which the Soviets were so impressed with that they converted captured Mk IIIs into SU-76i assault guns; making the Mk III the only German tank to be converted by the Allies for their own use.
-Manpower problem, they had to start recruiting from occupied countries and captured soldiers.
-Hitler's extreme hate for Russia, , and him and his general's being inpatient when invading USSR. For example, when they weren't fast enough and really bad winter happened, they decided to push forward and not to bunker down and wait it out. It was a really bad decision because of stretched supply line and because soldiers weren't equipped for winter.They literally had to abandon trucks and tanks because gasoline was being frozen.
-Overstretching of front lines because of Italy, they had to help them because they were Europe's soft underbelly.
-Getting Japan into officially joining them. Maybe if they weren't officially allies Japan's actions wouldn't have caused the USA to invade them or at least it would make them do it much later.
Damn! We are still in the early parts of the war ( 1940 ), and already, you think that the Third Reich will do really bad? Even against a very primitive and pacifist Equestria and Equis???!!!
Like the Panthers/Tiger Tanks aren't being "good", or their Air Force ( Wehrmacht ) isn't good either??!! Really?!
An hour passes as Celestia's eyes water as she mourns for the citizens of Paris, "I feel sorry for those that live in Paris right now, it was such a lovely and peaceful town before the Germans took it. Now I shall take some time to explain everything to you from the beginning..." She then proceeds to tell them how it all began with Cadence and her necklace, leaving out the more gruesome parts due to Spike being there.
Paris is more than a simple "town". It's the capital of France, and a big city!!!
Comment posted by The Loner deleted May 24th, 2021
10821009 I am just trying to keep pace with the story, not trying to rush through. Do you think that I should alter the MLP side so it makes better sense?
It's your decision and story. It's just I'm rather sad that some important characters won't show up or important events didn't happen yet, before the life threatening WW2 situation comes to Equestria.
It will be long story. I mean, considering that MLP: FIM has over 9 Seasons, and several Movies.
You said it yourself that this is after Season 1, correct? So important events like the first episode with Twilight meeting her future best friends, them discovering the Elements of Harmony, defeating Nightmare Moon and freeing Luna. With some misadventures from the episodes along the way. And end it with the Gala "Disaster".
But then, here is the main problem here ( For me that is ) for this story.
Again, the main problem I have is that because of this story is setting in the early timeline of MLP. Equestria as a whole is in a HUGE disadvantage against Nazi Germany, other Axis Powers, and the destructive weapons technology of WW2.
Why? Because in the later Seasons, several important events DIDN'T happen yet!
This will be long, please bear with me here.
Important Events like this:
*Season 2: The Mane Six meeting and defeating Discord, the Character Developments of the Mane Six in the various episodes. The Infamous Canterlot Wedding ( The Introduction and defeat of Queen Chrysalis and her Changelings. Shining Armor and Cadence getting married.
*Season 3: The introduction and defeat of King Sombra, while also saving the Crystal Empire that becomes a great ALLY to Equestria. More Character Development for the Mane Six. A potential reformed friend from the likes of Trixie ( After the "Magic Duel". ) in the future. The REFORMATION of Discord by Fluttershy's Kindness. And Twilight becoming a Alicorn Princess.
*The first two "Equestria Girls" Movies: The Introduction and defeat/reforming of Sunset Shimmer. And the meeting/befriending the Human Mane Five ( Rainbooms ) is a nice bonus. Facing down and defeat the threat of the Dazzlings. The third and fourth movies aren't very important, because they happen in the "Equestria Girls" Human World.
*Season Four: The Introduction and saving the Tree of Harmony from Discord's Plunder Vines. Some more Character Development of the Mane Six, including the mini arcs of the keys for the Crystal Chest. The Introduction of Lord Tirek, the destruction of Twilight's home. Discord's true redemption arc completed. The unlocking of the Crystal Chest gives the Mane Six the "Rainbow Power". Thus, defeating Tirek, and Twilight got a new Crystal Castle and Title.
*Season Five: The Cutie Map discovered, and the first defeat of Starlight Glimmer. The Town's Ponies getting their Cutie Marks back. More Character Arcs and Development ( Having mini Villains from the likes of Gilda and Diamond Tiara reformed to be friends. AND the CMC finally got their Cutie Marks!!!! First step to have the Griffons be Allies. And the Yaks are also introduced and be befriended as allies. ). Fully defeating and finally reforming Starlight Glimmer, while saving the very important timeline in the process.
*Season Six: Flurry Heart being born. Starlight making peace with Sunburst. Spike befriending Ember, thus having the Dragons be allies. Starlight befriend Trixie. Spike befriend Thorax, the first friendly Changeling. Spike, Discord, and Big Mac becoming Bro Friends. CMC befriending Gabby. The return of Chrysalis and her bad Changelings. Having the " Reformed Villain Team": Starlight, Trixie, Thorax and Discord save the day. With having Thorax becoming King by reforming the Changeling Population to be good. ( Although Chrysalis escape, she lost her subjects/army. )
*Season 7: More Character Developments and Arcs, Big Mac x Sugar Belle, Starlight helping Celestia/Luna with their problems ( Along with the short return of Nightmare Moon, and introduce Celestia's Evil Counterpart: Day Breaker. ). Pinkie Pie strengthening the friendship of the Yaks. The Origins of Applejack's, Apple Bllom's, and Big Mac's Parents. With the Apple Family finally end the feud of the Pear Family in the process.
Spike helping Dragon lord Ember and King Thorax be friends too. Also having Thorax's Brother: Pharynx, be reformed by Starlight and Trixie. Having Mini Arc of learning the Origins of Starswirl the Bearded and the Pillars. Freeing them in the finale season finale, and also defeated the Shadow Pony, and freed/reformed Stygian.
*MLP: The Movie ( 2017 ): The introduction of Tempest Shadow, Grubber, the Storm King, and the Yeti Army. Befriending the likes of Capper the Cat, Captain Celaeno and her Pirates, and the Hippogliffs/Sea Ponies ( Queen Novo, Princes Skystar, etc. ). And the reformation of Tempest Shadow/Fizzlepop Berrytwist, and the defeat/"death" of the Storm King.
*Season 8: Twilight opens her School of Friendship, the Young Six being introduced ( They are also one of my MLP favorite characters. ). More Character Development, again! Spike finally got Wings, Chrysalis trying to get revenge failed. Kirin being introduced and befriended. A "secret Villain; Cozy Glow reveals her true colors. Chancellor Neighsay has a "change of heart". And Cozy Glow is finally defeated and is imprisoned with Tirek.
As for Season 9? I don't think this should be included. Because, this is already gone far in the Timeline. Plus, I didn't like what happens in the season sometimes.
Their, I'm finally done!
I hope that you understand the problem here?
So basically, the Mane Six will have NO fighting experience from the future Villains, NO Character Development for the Mane Six from the many episodes, NO gaining allies from the various MLP Races or reformed villains in those particular episodes, and NO increasing the firepower for Equestria to facing the likes of WW2's antics.
Considering the direction this is going... I wouldn't put it past the unicorn in the rescue party to get captured by the SS and accidentally teach Einstein the theory of relativity, thus setting in motion the production of the Fatman and his little brother, and dropping them on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, detonating with the power of Daybreaker.
10822496 Ok, you have my attention now OP. How would you like to help me out with the rewrite on the story, with the proper setting for things to happen. Send me a message if you are interested, I will definitely need help fixing it.
As for what year to set the First Episode of Season 1?
I don't know? I'm not a full on historian that knows what's happening in every month, from every year in the past. All I know is that WW1 is a Four-Year World War ( 1914-1918 ). While WW2 has two additional years ( 1939-1945 ).
P.S. I'm very much busy myself. My house is being heavily decorated. So, I will be too busy, or tired to comment all day. Sorry.
Although, it will be nice to know the deadline for the next chapter or "Rewrite", or when you want my help.
Comment posted by The Loner deleted May 24th, 2021
Okay all, this story is going to get rewritten. So I will be placing it on Hiatus to make changes, so if you can, could you take down the comments listing parts of the old story? Thank you!
sorry, major discrepancy with the portal location! Fixing it now...and its done and back up, sorry about that mistake readers!
I totally agree with Twilight's rage rant. Due to Celestia's reckless actions. Shining Armor got injured, a guard from the Apple Family sadly died, and a friend of Rarity is now a prisoner of Hitler and his fascist country.
Now, Nazi Germany will learn of Equestria ( and possibly the other MLP Non-Pony Races in Equis ). And maybe the other Axis Powers ( Fascist Italy, and Imperial Japan ) would be interested.
Speaking of which? Besides, Equestria and the Ponies being involved. Will other MLP Races be involved to aid the Ponies. Because, this is a serious world matter.
And how the fuck is she even element of honesty for encouraging that?
She can't lie but somehow can encourage others to do something like that ?
I don't think that a soldier of this rank would be allowed to meet Adolf,especially without many guards guarding him.
It would be like a USA soldier wanting to talk with the president.
NCO is a Non-Commissioned Officer rank.
It also looks like he is a Unteroffizier , a Sergeant by the "Sgt Gunter" part
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranks_and_insignia_of_the_Waffen-SS
10819189
OK, but ... what about the 'window' time
vs the three in the previous chapter
10819304
While being SS would allow some corners to be cut, this is bringing a live animal through security, there should be one or two officers either with or replacing the sergeant ...
10819578
oops, will fix that one too, I forgot it was there. There, that issue is fixed. Now to add a couple of escorts with the NCO...and done.
10819304
she is just voicing her honest opinion on the matter.
10819281
You shall find out how the story goes when I publish the next chapter and continue it.
10819720
Alright. But, I do like to see the Young Six helping out.
10819715
Still, leaving the portal open is FRICKIN stupid! And it won't matter on Applejack's hopeless opinion anyway, since Nazi Germany might come to them later on. And they will see what Germany's War Machines ( Tanks, Planes, Ships, Submarines, Motorcycles, Half-Track Vehicles, etc. )
Speaking about Applejack.
I DON'T like how she is saying that, about Humanity as a whole.
10820032
To be honest, if the third Reich will find oil in Equestria it will buy them some time in WW2 but still....
Which means they will still lose WW2 on Earth, not to ponies in Equestria but to allies in Europe
In the end, the main reasons for Third Reich to fail in WW2 were:
-Devastated Wehrmacht after failed Britain raids, that wasn't a priority to rebuild, so no good air superiority in time.
-Not simplicated assembly of tanks, planes, etc, and unreliability and overcomplication of other machines.
-Not focusing on production, reliability, and upgrading of the medium tanks, like Panzer III and also its stug variants.
The Stugs out-killed all the German armored vehicles while at the same time providing much needed infantry support. Contrary to popular belief, Allied armies in fact very rarely used captured German equipment since stuff like Tigers and Panthers were too unreliable to use. The sole exception was the Panzer III, which the Soviets were so impressed with that they converted captured Mk IIIs into SU-76i assault guns; making the Mk III the only German tank to be converted by the Allies for their own use.
-Manpower problem, they had to start recruiting from occupied countries and captured soldiers.
-Hitler's extreme hate for Russia, , and him and his general's being inpatient when invading USSR.
For example, when they weren't fast enough and really bad winter happened, they decided to push forward and not to bunker down and wait it out. It was a really bad decision because of stretched supply line and because soldiers weren't equipped for winter.They literally had to abandon trucks and tanks because gasoline was being frozen.
-Overstretching of front lines because of Italy, they had to help them because they were Europe's soft underbelly.
-Getting Japan into officially joining them. Maybe if they weren't officially allies Japan's actions wouldn't have caused the USA to invade them or at least it would make them do it much later.
10820064
Damn! We are still in the early parts of the war ( 1940 ), and already, you think that the Third Reich will do really bad? Even against a very primitive and pacifist Equestria and Equis???!!!
Like the Panthers/Tiger Tanks aren't being "good", or their Air Force ( Wehrmacht ) isn't good either??!! Really?!
And you put z in USSR.
10820076
fixed,but I also update the comment, add more
10820076
I'm not saying that ponies will win,of course, they will lose
What I wrote this whole time was about the earth.
Read comments properly but I will add clarification anyway.
10820165
Thanks to clarify that. And please don't tell me to read the comments "properly". It's sounds like you say that I can't read it correctly.
But, other then that. Those are some good logical facts on how/why Nazi Germany's embarrassed loss against the Allies in WW2. 😎
10820045
My guess is that she did lose her memory briefly from the mental trauma, but it came back. Thanks for the additional ideas!
10820076
PZ V (Panther) won't roll out 'til '43 but early Tigers (PZ VI) in '42
10820704
Okay. They would be created soon, because the Germans won't be beaten for some time now.
10820454
Your welcome, I guess. Another question, are we still in Season One of MLP?
Paris is more than a simple "town". It's the capital of France, and a big city!!!
10820985
Surprised that it's happening this early in the MLP's side?
10821009
I am just trying to keep pace with the story, not trying to rush through. Do you think that I should alter the MLP side so it makes better sense?
10821790
It's your decision and story. It's just I'm rather sad that some important characters won't show up or important events didn't happen yet, before the life threatening WW2 situation comes to Equestria.
10821991
What do you mean, explain it to me a bit.
10822028
It will be long story. I mean, considering that MLP: FIM has over 9 Seasons, and several Movies.
You said it yourself that this is after Season 1, correct? So important events like the first episode with Twilight meeting her future best friends, them discovering the Elements of Harmony, defeating Nightmare Moon and freeing Luna. With some misadventures from the episodes along the way. And end it with the Gala "Disaster".
But then, here is the main problem here ( For me that is ) for this story.
Again, the main problem I have is that because of this story is setting in the early timeline of MLP. Equestria as a whole is in a HUGE disadvantage against Nazi Germany, other Axis Powers, and the destructive weapons technology of WW2.
Why? Because in the later Seasons, several important events DIDN'T happen yet!
This will be long, please bear with me here.
Important Events like this:
*Season 2: The Mane Six meeting and defeating Discord, the Character Developments of the Mane Six in the various episodes. The Infamous Canterlot Wedding ( The Introduction and defeat of Queen Chrysalis and her Changelings. Shining Armor and Cadence getting married.
*Season 3: The introduction and defeat of King Sombra, while also saving the Crystal Empire that becomes a great ALLY to Equestria. More Character Development for the Mane Six. A potential reformed friend from the likes of Trixie ( After the "Magic Duel". ) in the future. The REFORMATION of Discord by Fluttershy's Kindness. And Twilight becoming a Alicorn Princess.
*The first two "Equestria Girls" Movies: The Introduction and defeat/reforming of Sunset Shimmer. And the meeting/befriending the Human Mane Five ( Rainbooms ) is a nice bonus. Facing down and defeat the threat of the Dazzlings. The third and fourth movies aren't very important, because they happen in the "Equestria Girls" Human World.
*Season Four: The Introduction and saving the Tree of Harmony from Discord's Plunder Vines. Some more Character Development of the Mane Six, including the mini arcs of the keys for the Crystal Chest. The Introduction of Lord Tirek, the destruction of Twilight's home. Discord's true redemption arc completed. The unlocking of the Crystal Chest gives the Mane Six the "Rainbow Power". Thus, defeating Tirek, and Twilight got a new Crystal Castle and Title.
*Season Five: The Cutie Map discovered, and the first defeat of Starlight Glimmer. The Town's Ponies getting their Cutie Marks back. More Character Arcs and Development ( Having mini Villains from the likes of Gilda and Diamond Tiara reformed to be friends. AND the CMC finally got their Cutie Marks!!!! First step to have the Griffons be Allies. And the Yaks are also introduced and be befriended as allies. ). Fully defeating and finally reforming Starlight Glimmer, while saving the very important timeline in the process.
*Season Six: Flurry Heart being born. Starlight making peace with Sunburst. Spike befriending Ember, thus having the Dragons be allies. Starlight befriend Trixie. Spike befriend Thorax, the first friendly Changeling. Spike, Discord, and Big Mac becoming Bro Friends. CMC befriending Gabby. The return of Chrysalis and her bad Changelings. Having the " Reformed Villain Team": Starlight, Trixie, Thorax and Discord save the day. With having Thorax becoming King by reforming the Changeling Population to be good. ( Although Chrysalis escape, she lost her subjects/army. )
*Season 7: More Character Developments and Arcs, Big Mac x Sugar Belle, Starlight helping Celestia/Luna with their problems ( Along with the short return of Nightmare Moon, and introduce Celestia's Evil Counterpart: Day Breaker. ). Pinkie Pie strengthening the friendship of the Yaks. The Origins of Applejack's, Apple Bllom's, and Big Mac's Parents. With the Apple Family finally end the feud of the Pear Family in the process.
Spike helping Dragon lord Ember and King Thorax be friends too. Also having Thorax's Brother: Pharynx, be reformed by Starlight and Trixie. Having Mini Arc of learning the Origins of Starswirl the Bearded and the Pillars. Freeing them in the finale season finale, and also defeated the Shadow Pony, and freed/reformed Stygian.
*MLP: The Movie ( 2017 ): The introduction of Tempest Shadow, Grubber, the Storm King, and the Yeti Army. Befriending the likes of Capper the Cat, Captain Celaeno and her Pirates, and the Hippogliffs/Sea Ponies ( Queen Novo, Princes Skystar, etc. ). And the reformation of Tempest Shadow/Fizzlepop Berrytwist, and the defeat/"death" of the Storm King.
*Season 8: Twilight opens her School of Friendship, the Young Six being introduced ( They are also one of my MLP favorite characters. ). More Character Development, again! Spike finally got Wings, Chrysalis trying to get revenge failed. Kirin being introduced and befriended. A "secret Villain; Cozy Glow reveals her true colors. Chancellor Neighsay has a "change of heart". And Cozy Glow is finally defeated and is imprisoned with Tirek.
As for Season 9? I don't think this should be included. Because, this is already gone far in the Timeline. Plus, I didn't like what happens in the season sometimes.
Their, I'm finally done!
I hope that you understand the problem here?
So basically, the Mane Six will have NO fighting experience from the future Villains, NO Character Development for the Mane Six from the many episodes, NO gaining allies from the various MLP Races or reformed villains in those particular episodes, and NO increasing the firepower for Equestria to facing the likes of WW2's antics.
Considering the direction this is going... I wouldn't put it past the unicorn in the rescue party to get captured by the SS and accidentally teach Einstein the theory of relativity, thus setting in motion the production of the Fatman and his little brother, and dropping them on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, detonating with the power of Daybreaker.
10822496
Ok, you have my attention now OP. How would you like to help me out with the rewrite on the story, with the proper setting for things to happen. Send me a message if you are interested, I will definitely need help fixing it.
10822589
Besides making that huge recap, and lore dump for you.
First question? Did you actually watch most of, if not, the entirety of the MLP: FIM Series yourself?
10822542
You mean that Ponies ( In this story ) are the main cause of the invention of NUKES/ATOMIC BOMBS of all things????!!!!!
Very Luscious and even Sus within itself!
10823126
I usually use the Wiki itself of MLP: FIM to show the full story in the episodes themselves.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_My_Little_Pony:_Friendship_Is_Magic_episodes
As for what year to set the First Episode of Season 1?
I don't know? I'm not a full on historian that knows what's happening in every month, from every year in the past. All I know is that WW1 is a Four-Year World War ( 1914-1918 ). While WW2 has two additional years ( 1939-1945 ).
P.S. I'm very much busy myself. My house is being heavily decorated. So, I will be too busy, or tired to comment all day. Sorry.
Although, it will be nice to know the deadline for the next chapter or "Rewrite", or when you want my help.
Okay all, this story is going to get rewritten. So I will be placing it on Hiatus to make changes, so if you can, could you take down the comments listing parts of the old story? Thank you!
And there is Chapter 3, now to take the story off Hiatus and resume with writing.