Mykan's Death Battle Derangement Syndrome

So... Mykan recently made a blog post about his death battles. Why?

People have been getting really picky with me that I don't know how to write a true Death Battle...

Who?

This was clearly a reply to my blog posts. However, just so we're clear, I'm not the one who brought up the topic of his death battles, he did. And most of my comments weren't directed towards his death battles specifically, it was just Lightning's power in general. And it was hardly the main focus.

First: I just CALL them "Death Battles"

-What rule is there saying I have to make it EXACTLY like THE Death Battles?
-It wouldn't make a difference even if I called it anything else. It would still be the same.

The fact that you're calling them "DEATH BATTLE" is the rule. You made the rule by using that name. If you're going to call it the same thing, you're going to be expected to do things the same way. They don't have to be "exact". But you set the bar, not us.

And if it wouldn't make a difference if you'd call it something else's, then you might as well call it something else. Especially since your death battles aren't even death battles. But we'll get to that later.

Twilight is terrible in the art of hand-to-hand combat, or weapon combat-- she relies so heavily on her magic, she has practically no battle skills.

How does relying on magic equate to no battle skills? Why can't battle magic be a thing?

I just want to give Twilight her scheduled thrashing... because I don't like her. Period.

That's another reason I let her live instead of having her remain dead after KO. So she can live with the disgrace and humiliation, and I can continue to thrash her, again... and again... and again...!

Those are my Death Battles, and that is how they will be.

Here's another reason why Mykan should change the name. His death battles aren't even death battles. The name "Death Battle" strongly implies a battle to the death. If you're gonna let the loser live, then it's not a death battle.

Although, after reading the first "Death Battle", I'm now inspired to start my own Death Battle series. Specifically, I'd made it so that it's a non-canon version of a canon character vs an OC. I already have two ideas in mind. The first would be Lightning Dawn vs God Slayer Twilight Sparkle from The Immortal Game. The second would be a two on two battle. Nihilus Nyx Naught and Wrong from The Immortal Game vs Queen Twilight Sparkle and Queen Rainbow Dash from the Of The Hive series. Maybe I could also do a Nyx vs Sweetie Bot Death Battle.

I know this wasn't a big blog post. But it just wasn't a big deal in the first place and just didn't want to make it any bigger than it should be. But what do you think about my Death Battle series? Should I make it?

Your Changeling Lord King Cocoon has spoken.

Comments

[hubakon1368]

Your Death Battle ideas sound really interesting.

[DakariKingMykan]

How does relying on magic equate to no battle skills? Why can't battle magic be a thing?

Seriously?!

PRACTICALLY means ALMOST. (What is with you misunderstanding definitions?)

If Twilight loses her magic, or her magic just isn't effective enough, she's as good as lost the fight (She has no other battle skills)

Just as an example...

Robin trains the Teen Titans in martial arts, should an occasion come when their powers fail them.

Just look at Raven... she's so skinny and frail. Take away her powers, she's really the most vulnerable of the heroes.

[TheIdiot]

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Robin trains the Teen Titans in martial arts, should an occasion come when their powers fail them.

Except that still means nothing since, in your fics, you have Count Logan be so powerful, Starfire, Cyborg, and Raven having any martial arts training amount to nothing. Also, by your own logic, Robin is useless since he only has martial arts skills and his utility belt and if he was facing a foe stronger than him, he'd have nothing to do.

[DakariKingMykan]

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I'm not talking about my fics...

Twilight is terrible in the art of hand-to-hand combat, or weapon combat-- she relies so heavily on her magic, she has practically no battle skills.

is just an analysis of one of Twilight's weaknesses.

https://teentitans.fandom.com/wiki/Beast_Boy

Beast Boy was also trained in martial arts by Robin, so he could still defend himself should his powers ever somehow stop working.

https://teentitans.fandom.com/wiki/Raven

Finally, even though she is shown perfectly capable in handling herself in close-quarters combat, Raven is still the most physically frail of the Titans. She lacks any of the peak physical-conditioning that someone like Robin possesses, and her durability is roughly on par with that of an average teenage girl. Thus she has to rely on keeping her distance from foes or creating shields to protect herself damage, otherwise she will be quickly and easily be taken out of a fight.

Like I said... take away Raven's powers, and she's practically useless.

And people have agreed before... Twilight solely relies on her magic when in battle. Other than that, she has no martial arts training, no weapon skills, no combat training...

..Well?

[Lord King Cocoon]

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PRACTICALLY means ALMOST. (What is with you misunderstanding definitions?)

What is it with you and misunderstanding that I just shortened what was said for the sake of getting to the point?

Also no, "practically" does not mean "almost".

If Twilight loses her magic, or her magic just isn't effective enough, she's as good as lost the fight (She has no other battle skills)

Just as an example...

Robin trains the Teen Titans in martial arts, should an occasion come when their powers fail them.

I suppose you have a point. But just like in D&D, Twilight usually isn't alone when she goes into a battle.

But for the sake of argument (assuming you know what that phrase actually means), what were to happen if Robin were to be paralyzed or incapacitated in a similar way? You're right that one battle style can't account for all situations.

Just look at Raven... she's so skinny and frail. Take away her powers, she's really the most vulnerable of the heroes.

That's an art style. She's no skinnier than Starfire or Beast Boy, and isn't much skinnier than Robin. Based on your logic, the same can be said about Starfire and Beast Boy (I didn't mention Robin because he doesn't have powers to take away, although if he were to get amnesia, then the martial arts that he has learned are useless since he had forgotten them). Take away their powers, and they're weak. And Fun Fact: take away Cyborg's powers, and he's completely incapacitated.

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I'm not talking about my fics...

Well we are. If you recognize these details, but don't apply them to your own fics, your arguments hold no merit because it's a perfect demonstration of how dishonest you are with your fics.

is just an analysis of one of Twilight's weaknesses.

And people have agreed before... Twilight solely relies on her magic when in battle. Other than that, she has no martial arts training, no weapon skills, no combat training...

Citation please.

https://teentitans.fandom.com/wiki/Beast_Boy

Beast Boy was also trained in martial arts by Robin, so he could still defend himself should his powers ever somehow stop working.

https://teentitans.fandom.com/wiki/Raven

Finally, even though she is shown perfectly capable in handling herself in close-quarters combat, Raven is still the most physically frail of the Titans. She lacks any of the peak physical-conditioning that someone like Robin possesses, and her durability is roughly on par with that of an average teenage girl. Thus she has to rely on keeping her distance from foes or creating shields to protect herself damage, otherwise she will be quickly and easily be taken out of a fight.

Like I said... take away Raven's powers, and she's practically useless.

The thing about fan wikis is that they aren't official content. That's why they're called fan wikis. You yourself have made a blog post pointing out the flaws in fan wikis before. Or did you not realize that TV Tropes is also a fan wiki?

I also found it amusing that you thought they meant "take" every time they said "tank".

[Mx Potential]

If I can throw a suggestion of a non-canon-version opponent into the ring, any of the Lovecraftian interpretations of Twi by the7saviors would be pretty cool to see. Life is Magic, Those Left Behind, The Viruses of Harmony, and so on.

[Lord King Cocoon]

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Thanks for the recommendations.

[DakariKingMykan]

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Also no, "practically" does not mean "almost".

prac·ti·cal·ly

1. virtually; almost.
"the place was practically empty"

2. in a practical manner.
"“He might win,” pointed out Emmeline practically"

How many times a day I gotta prove you wrong? \

Citation please.

I'm afraid I can't really do that one. They are all over the net... but they can be interpenetrated as just opinions.

Still, have you ever SEEN Twilight pick up a real sword? Use a cannon, or throw a punch or kick?

No, even her Wiki has no segment stating any combat skills (I know... Wiki's aren't always accurate, glad you finally realize that too.)

I suppose you have a point. But just like in D&D, Twilight usually isn't alone when she goes into a battle.

The thing about fan wikis is that they aren't official content. That's why they're called fan wikis. You yourself have made a blog post pointing out the flaws in fan wikis before. Or did you not realize that TV Tropes is also a fan wiki?

I also found it amusing that you thought they meant "take" every time they said "tank".

Believe it or not... that's the only reason I brought 'em up. I've been waiting for reactions like that.

Reason: People are still throwing at me to just READ WIKI'S instead of watching the show itself (Like for MLP) But I keep telling the people...

The Wikis only give you SOME information, but they don't effectively you what you need to know.

[Lord King Cocoon]

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I'm afraid I can't really do that one. They are all over the net... but they can be interpenetrated as just opinions.

The point is that you specifically said that that's a weakness. Is there evidence that she's specifically weaker than average?

Still, have you ever SEEN Twilight pick up a real sword? Use a cannon, or throw a punch or kick?

Actually, she did use a physical attack during the Season 2 Changeling attack. It may not specifically be "combat skills", but it proves that she is capable of fighting without magic.

I know... Wiki's aren't always accurate, glad you finally realize that too.

What do you mean by "finally"? It's something I've always known.

Believe it or not... that's the only reason I brought 'em up. I've been waiting for reactions like that.

I'm in the "or not" category. And I know you haven't been waiting all this time, since I've seen on your own blog post people have corrected you about that.

The Wikis only give you SOME information, but they don't effectively you what you need to know.

Technically, that depends on the Wiki

[DakariKingMykan]

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The point is that you specifically said that that's a weakness. Is there evidence that she's specifically weaker than average?

I didn't necessarily say she was WEAK in general...what I mean is, she incapable of fighting or winning.

Actually, she did use a physical attack during the Season 2 Changeling attack. It may not specifically be "combat skills", but it proves that she is capable of fighting without magic.

True... but it also doesn't mean she's very good at it.

Being capable of a throwing a punch doesn't really make you a master fighter, does it? Even if Twilight can punch, what if she comes across someone as strong as a Z Fighter? She can't beat that.

Weak is weak until something is weaker
and Strong is Strong 'till something is stronger
Now keep that in mind, and you will discover
What's Strong for me can be weak to another.

Technically, that depends on the Wiki

I feel it's more DEFINITE than technical, because not only do I see the Wiki's change here and there. Not only do I see several spelling errors, I also catch inaccuracies.

that's besides the point. We both agree, Wiki's are not a good resource.

[Lord King Cocoon]

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I didn't necessarily say she was WEAK in general...what I mean is, she incapable of fighting or winning.

Unless you're specifically referring to the battle against Lightning Dawn, saying she's incapable of fighting or winning is saying she's weak. In fact, the part about "incapable of fighting" doesn't even have to apply to who she fights, meaning that you are calling her weak in general.

True... but it also doesn't mean she's very good at it.

Being capable of a throwing a punch doesn't really make you a master fighter, does it? Even if Twilight can punch, what if she comes across someone as strong as a Z Fighter? She can't beat that.

How good of a fighter she is is irrelevant to the fact that you asked if I've ever seen her throw a punch. So stop moving the goalpost.

Weak is weak until something is weaker
and Strong is Strong 'till something is stronger
Now keep that in mind, and you will discover
What's Strong for me can be weak to another.

Interestingly enough, that last line says it all. Strong and weak are relative. That also debunks your point about "strong is strong" and "weak is weak".

that's besides the point. We both agree, Wiki's are not a good resource.

When did I ever say that? And please copy/paste the exact quote.