Rawr! · 3:48am Oct 8th, 2012
Well, so far the next chapter of TMV is coming along, slowly but surely. At the moment it's just under 2k words, but there's still a lot more do add to it (including a lot more clop).
But I wanted to take this chance to mention something I find a bit odd, and more than a little suspicious.
I'm pretty sure most of you at least know about Equestria After Dark. For those of you that don't, it's basically Equestria Daily's creepier, odd-smelling brother that he never talks about. The one thing they have in common is the fact that, more than likely, none of my stories will ever be featured on either.
Now, you may be wondering why not? Sure, EQD is a clean site, but EQAD shouldn't have any problem with clop stories, right? Well, for a while now, they have had a 'no foals allowed' policy. Now, while I can't say that every story I write will involve foals getting 'teh sexed' done on them, I can say that I have always had a problem with sites that run with those kinds of policies. Now, I'm not trying to advocate anything illegal here, let me make that clear from the start. But what I do have a problem with is sites treating fictional things as if they were real.
Anyone that knows me will know that I am a firm believer in keeping fictional things fictional, and not treating them as if they had any connection to reality. That includes a lot of things more 'moral' people may find objectionable. But that's not quite the issue I wanted to bring up.
See, it seems that EQAD has open up a small debate over if their 'no foals allowed' policy should include Spike or not, since he's constantly being referred to as a 'baby dragon'. The debate was also opened up to the whole 'no foals' issue as well. Earlier today, I took a look at comments, and threw in my own 2 cents to the debate. All in all, the overwhelming majority of comments were in favor of lifting the ban on foal content on the site. In my opinion, things seemed to be looking up. Later on, I decided to take another look to see how the debate was going. Well, it seems that the entire post, comments and all, have been removed. Now, I don't know for sure just what happened, but the whole things seems rather fishy to me. I can't help but suspect that the mod of EQAD didn't get the reactions they were expecting on the issue, and yanked down the post before the community ended up making them change their policy.
But it got me thinking. Just what are your thoughts on the whole issue? If EQAD removes their 'no foals' policy, should I try submitting TMV to the site? And what would you do if FiMFic suddenly adopted a similar policy against foal-clop?
I just find it frustrating that so many sites think that rape, murder, and things far worse are perfectly acceptable, yet anything involving under-aged characters having sex is totally abhorrent.
well, if they do lift the ban i would suggest uploading your story to the site. allowing more people who dont come here to read your work. and my thoughts on foalcon or foalophile are open minded. but if this site did ban said subject. then i would try and help the side of the debate on lifting the ban, since the genre is fictional and there for alright to view.
I normally avoid foal-con myself. If it's done well - or there's a fetish in the fic I like - I'll read it.
All in all, I'm indifferent on the issue, mostly because I don't haunt EQAD.
For me, it depends on if the "foal" in question is old enough to understand the consequences of their actions as well as the action itself. For example. I see nothing wrong with high school juniors and seniors getting together. Maybe some of the more mature sophomores. But "Lolita" type relationships rub me the wrong way. And rape or pedophilia will always strike me as the most morally reprehensible action any sentient thing can do to another.
That said, we are talking about fiction, which is why you can find books like Lolita in libraries for anyone to read. Not only fiction, but fiction involving another species entirely, including one that has a reputation for longevity and wisdom beyond their years. This I take little issue with, as you seem to be treating the relationship Twilight has with her "lovers" as one that is fundamentally wrong, but under circumstances that, while unusual, are at least understandable. And who knows when dragons reach maturity, if they ever do? The ones I've seen have no higher function, no complex thought, except for Spike. he may well be the epitome of maturity among dragons at this point, we don't know.
In summary, my feelings run thusly:
It's fan fiction about cartoon ponies doing the nasty. This be the internet. Welcome to it. Sit down, grab a snack, and pull up some pictures of dragons humping cars and F-15 fighter planes getting reamed by tentacles. This is hardly the worst thing you'll find here, and you certainly aren't forced to read it. If you don't like it, then turn the other cheek and let us enjoy our "enhanced" unicorn fun.
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This right here is probably the most logical argument I've heard on this topic in a long time.
As a professional /d/eviant and long time delver of the blackened depths of the internet, I've seen some shit man. Some serious SERIOUS shit. I've even run into one or two things that made me turn off my computer and get up to take a shower because I felt unclean after looking at them. This is not one of those things. Truthfully this barely even registers on my fucked-up-shit-o-meter.
I mean, the US government has a ban on just about everything, except alcohol and tobacco, and even theydon't ban fictional pr0n that contains minors. If a government that will ban weed, gay people, and profanity on the radio doesn't take issue with it then I don't see why they should either.
The truth of the matter is that that is life. All of the things we write about happen, if in different respects. Struggles for life, sex, murder, and even some level of utopia can be found everywhere in every age group. Plain and simple. So my opinion is no, no there shouldn't be a ban on this kind of thing, because to be straight with you, it all happens in the real world, (granted, not in the same capacity as we have in literature) so we shouldn't condemn it in literature and try to block it out if we can't block it in real life. Wasn't that rule 19 of the Internet? Seriously, we need to drop the issue and let people get on wit their own creative pursuits. Those who like it will look for and find it or make it themselves one way or another, so we shouldn't think that it's possible to stop it.