WAR! · 7:49pm Aug 26th, 2012
Right. So I've tried being diplomatic. I tried to play nice... but men (and beloved pegasisters), I march to war against the mouse menace...
So I got the traps yesterday after work. I had no desire to kill this thing, so after being shown line after line of traps that would have ended in a very painful, and unnecessary death for our rodent friend. I mean, yeah, he's annoying and I don't want a mouse in the house, but seriously, he's never done anything to me, so why would I kill him? Any who, got a couple of traps designed to just trap the bugger instead of kill him, but designed in such a way that the bait was far back in the trap. Hence, mouse would have to be in the trap for it to trigger, so no chance of it having a false go.
So late last night, I removed the barricades (ducttape) I had sealing the gate (bathroom door) and lay my devious traps. Within their bowels lay only the finest peanut butter covered peanuts, something no mouse could possibly resist. I also placed a carefully typed and legally binding peace treaty on the floor near the traps. In it, I kindly welcomed the mouse into my home, but informed him that he was unable to stay due to health reasons. I apologized for the inconvenience, but informed him that I intended him no harm, the same way he intended me no harm. If he would be but civil enough to climb into one of the transportation units (the traps which even had a WATERING dish for Celestia's sake), I would ensure that he would be taken to the nearest open field or woodland area and released without incident or harm, and we can go our separate ways in peace. The the food inside (peanuts) was a consolation for his relocation, and I looked forward to seeing him i nthe morning.
Because if Redwall, NIMH, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe, and Tom and Jerry have taught me anything, its that all mice are intelligent, sentient creatures who know how to reason.
Fluttershy approved of this.
I then closed the door behind me, and climbed into bed and proceeded to be bothered by rather... strange noises coming from the bathroom. All I could think was "Omigod, omigod, the hermaphroditic mouse is f**king itself now and there's gonna be mutant mice babies everywhere when I open the door tomorrow."
But upon my word, when I opened the door that morn, there were no army of mice. None of the traps were active. Thinking perhaps maybe it was a one time thing and maybe he hadn't taken the bait, I checked the traps. I peeked inside to find...
...nothing. Literally, somehow this mouse had climbed INSIDE the trap, completely stolen the peanut-butter-penut, and scurried off without setting the traps. ALL of the traps. Now, I had checked each one, and they were working fine both before and after. Infact, the traps HAD been triggered, and the fucker reset the doors! HOW he did, I haven't the slightest idea. My mind is srsly freaking boggled right now, you have no idea. But ALL of the food was gone. ALL of the bait.
To add insult to injury, he left me four nice little mouse turds right on my peace treaty!
Fine... if this is how the mouse wishes to play, then I will now longer show such mercy. He has overstayed, added insult to injury, and scorned my good intentions. This mouse is dead.
We're gonna first start with basic mouse traps, followed by the Axe suggestion in the previous comments, a gallon of gasoline and matches, and if necessary, the a surface to surface missle from the weapons grade plutonium in my underwear drawer. I hope that by tommorow, my bathroom will be rodent free.
Like... you know... unless he brings an army of his friends...
Stay frosty.
It's no longer your house, it's the mouse's.
Damn, sing me up! How can I support the war effort! AimBot, reporting for duty sir!
(P.S. - Good luck. Don't get your ass shot up out there, we need you back here!)
Mr (Ms.?) Dawn Scroll
I rather enjoy the a slice of life story, so much so that I've got it set-up so when it updates, I'll be notified via my actual e-mail. It's marvelously written and probably one of the funniest stories on the site, true story. My only question to you is why do you update your blog through your story if it has nothing to do with your story? Blogs are for your watchers, and in the situation where it has to actually do with your story then that would be the appropriate time to tag your story. Otherwise it's just an obnoxious little *beep* I could have gone without hearing while trying to watch various George Carlin stand-up routines, since I like to keep a fimfiction.net page open. So I ask you again: why do you tag the story? If I wanted to read your blogs, I'd watch you. Logic dictates that since I haven't watched you, I do not want to read your blogs I could write you the logical equation if you'd like to see how that works. I know that sounds mean, prickish, and somewhat unappreciative, but that's real talk. Just curious.
Loathe,
Your Antagonist
Better get your war face ready because: IT. IS. ON!
also, how i pictured your reaction:
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lock a cat in there with teh mouse
Get some body spray.
A lighter.
You now have yourself a flame-thrower.
See what I'm implying here.
313392
*grins sheepishly and rummages around the papers on his desk* No, you do make a few honestly valid points to which I can both appreciate and respect. Also, before I begin throwing up weak excuses, thank you for the compliments regarding SOL. Evenmoreso for liking it so much, you hooked your email up to be notified,
Honestly, the puppy is a headache and a half but... when I do hear stuff like this and others from fans, it kinda makes it worth it in the end. A warm, fuzzy feeling.
Now, to the crux at hand. For the longest time, whenever I had made a blog, it had always been in reference to SOL, my current lack of writing, or the general chaos that was preventing an update. Generally speaking, I'm not a blogger and Im very hands off with this function of Fimfiction. However, I do occasionally need to let people (readers of SOL) know Im alive and that the story is being worked on. Generally, its the stuff that's PREVENTING me from working on SOL, but also a sorry excuse for why I wasnt writing it. Life, my friend, is a bitch. But I do owe people at least a reason why I didn't deliver, and knowledge its being worked on is better than saying "Oh, its no longer being written". Good news for any reader, yes? So that tag function was kinda useful, because my blogs had always been relevant to SOL.
These past two times... not so much. I do have a serious mouse problem, and while its not relevant, I DO need various opinions in this matter. While jokes and such are funny, internet only gives so much information, and it could be one person's advice thats the ultimate solution. I admit to giving it a whirl.
Again, my previous blogging history has shown that 1) I don't frequently blog like some people, and 2) I don't make idle posts when I do.
Furthermore, a single "beep" once every few weeks in your email account doesn't seem so bad. Truly, might be tiresome for the faint spark that SOL has updated (I know the feeling, and I AM sorry for that emotion) to lead to slight disappointment that its just another blog post. But everyone has the choice to read, and not to read, yourself included. Time is only wasted if we do nothing with it. How we choose to spend it is our own.
Gandalf taught me that.... somewhere in LOTR. Maybe.
When/If I tag it, you do receive a note that I updated the blog. It IS something that other authors do, aside from myself. Some blogs I read, others I don't. Honestly, it doesn't bother me that much when I receive the notice. Advice and opinions are what I'm truly looking for when I do these. Maybe just ever so slightly to bring a small smiles to people's faces, or just to maybe give and receive a much needed laugh. You meet some cool people this way.
But yeah, this blogging thing isnt a usual thing for me.
Sorry for the inconvenience,
Dawnscroll
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*Sigh* Confound you. When you bring up reasons like that, I can understand completely. I apologize for my outburst in that case. No one knows what it's like to have neglected readers moreso than myself. Carry on Dawnscroll. Carry on like the champion you are. It won't hurt to ignore the occasional blog post amongst the stream of obnoxious favorites.
Loathe,
Your Antagonist.
hate to tell you "i told you so", but; i told you so...if mice were really intelligent (which is entirely possible) and could be reasoned with (they can't, cause they're either small monsters who only exists to bring pain upon mankind, or incredibly evil); then they would make the worlds greatest surgeons in the world look like apes with butter-knifes (
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take basic cheese, and cut a piece into a pyramid shape, make sure that the cheese can't be moved 1 millimeter without springing the trap, then you have yourself a dead mouse, and for the record, there isn't a thing that a mouse won't eat, they go for ANYTHING that's digestible.
give him two weeks; and you're there...
Oh god, my axe suggestion might actually see use. My old standing as as the patron saint of questionable battleplans is slowly retuning to life, like blood unknowingly sprayed onto a dormant vampire.
If you do walk down the dark path of improvised chemical weaponry, it might be useful to clearly stake out just where this little monster is making its lair. It's no good to start dropping agent orange on the border of north Vietnam if the ho chi min trail if just going to go around through Cambodia. Even carpet bombing needs a clearly defined target area (even if the area is something like "the whole bathroom" or "indochina"). Glassing the bathroom will prove ineffective if the Vietcong are just going to to retreat into the wall.
After doing some research (a five minute google search), I've come across plans for improvised mousetraps using a balanced ramp and a steep-walled plastic bucket. The mouse ascends the ramp to reach bait (again, peanut butter) at the end, only to fall into the bucket when its weight destabilizes the ramp. If you're feeling vindictive, you can even fill the bucket with something like water, viniger, MD 20/20, or a live snake.
1. Get a peace of cardboard as big as your bathroom floor.
2. Put the cardboard on the floor of your bathroom.
3. Put some peanut-butter-penut, cheese, lettuce and meat in the middle of the cardboard.
4. Put super glue and glue for rodents around the peanut-butter-penut, cheese, lettuce and meat but not on it.
5. Wait
6. Remove cardboard with mouse/hermaphroditic mouse or the army that is now glued to the cardboard (dead or alive).
7. Re-do steps 1-6 but with cardboard no bigger then your outstretched palm with only the previously by mouse/hermaphroditic mouse targeted bait, to be sure you have them all.
For what it's worth, I found this blog post hysterical.
Because I've been there.
Many times.
Today.
Stupid mice... Almost as bad as the centipedes.
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Oh perish the thought. No need to apologize at all.
Again, completely valid points and concerns. As my good friend Perry know, I'm not exactly the most punctual of writers to begin with. Consider me guilty as charged. Just eh... no pitchforks please?
313532
I will say this once. And only once. Never before have I said this to ANYONE, and for the love of Celestia, I'm really taking a hit to the groin by writing this online where everyone can see it.
You told me so. You were right. I should have heeded your warning. I will listen in the future.
There. Now everyone else erase it from their minds.
*raises hand* How do I test the bait on the spring trap WITHOUT losing my fingers? Also, he dies tonight.
313374 Its my house, and I'll be damned if a rodent 1/1000 of my size thinks he owns it.
313378 Psh. Anything you can to help. Are you, by any chance, decent with a flamethrower?
313553 We currently have that same one set up in the bathroom (amidst others), using cardboard tubing and a 5-gallon bucket. No water. This one trap is the mouse's chance at redemption. IF it somehow survives everything I set up, Im entering it in the gymnastic portion of the Olympics.
313394 Yup. That is exactly what happened. Im not even kidding it.
313560 See, I'm cool with the Centipedes. They dont bother me. They eat other insects and keeps ants out of my house. Spiders and centipedes are welcome so long as they lurk where they're not noticed. Even if I see a centipede, I give it five seconds to run for cover before I go to crush it. Spiders I leave alone, and just brush away the webs. No point in hurting them.
313563 Not mousetraps persay... but theres alot of traps in the bathroom. Kinda like that.
313624 Well, I don't like to brag, but...
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I've got a bit of experience. I guess I can polish up my suit one last time.
We have mice. They live in our attic, and our storage room, and our walls. We used poison at one point. Dead mice stink to high heaven. (We have tons of stuff in all of those places, so we couldn't get to the carcasses.) Especially if they have friends. Good luck with your situation.
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i usually use a knife or something, just make sure that the bait sticks to the trigger really really good, cause as you've noticed, they're incredibly crafty
anythings that's not your finger
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Dude, just seal away all food sources and leave some in the middle of a large glue trap.
Testing your trap without losing fingers? test it with a stick or something. Also I like moss flowers idea. Make sure the bait sticks well. Perhaps glue it to the trigger?
Good luck with whatever you try
You should get some of those traps the exterminators use, the kind that are built like a "humane" trap with a door and interior and everything, but have those glue traps on the bottom so that as soon as the mouse crawls into it, he's stuck. A store I worked at had some field mice get in and those glue traps worked pretty darn well against 'em. 'course, they usually starve to death and such, but trust me man, they're vermin; spare them no pity, for they have none for you.
Easiest way to catch a mouse is simply to place a cardboard tube hanging over the edge of a bucket with a little food in the end. The mouse runs through the tube to get the food in the end and subsequently overbalances it and falls in the bucket, trapped. Put water in the bottom it you want to kill the little bastard. Use you're imagination, I'm sure you can work it out.
Worked like a charm in the restaurant I used to work in, it was next to a big field so in the winter we had a real problem with the little bastards.
At first it was just amusing to read, but when the mouse shit on your peace treaty, I lost it.
313468 I, personally, enjoy your blog updates, and appreciate that you take the time of day to keep us informed. Like you said, it lets us know what's happening and when to expect the next chapter. Also, now I'm curious about what's going happen to the hermaphroditic hobo that has so rudely occupied your bathroom.
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You're not supposed to leave them on the trap to die, you're supposed to put them out of their misery. Humanely. Starvation is a very painful way to die, not to mention that they rip parts of their body off in attempts to escape (they can even gnaw a leg off if it means escape). It can take hours to days for a trapped animal to finally die on a glue trap.
As for your pity comment, seriously?! They're mice. What do you expect? They pity you as much as a dog pities you stubbing your toe on something - that is, they don't understand that you're being inconvenienced. But you're a human being (I assume so), you should know better. But yeah, letting them starve is disgusting and shame on you for such unnecessary cruelty. No excuses. You can use a snap trap, or euthanise the animal! No sense leaving it suffering - that is essentially what you're condoning here. Call them "vermin" all you want, but at the end of the day they're animals that can still feel pain and don't deserve to die such a painful death.
If you have to end it, end it quickly and with little pain. Gosh, what the hell is wrong with you?
How did you manage to solve your problem?
Mice can be pesky little bastards, but it's disheartening seeing people recommend doing things like sticking them onto sheets of glue and forcing the animal to maim itself or die from starvation. Some people just have zero respect for other living things *sigh*. I hope whatever the method, it was done quick with little suffering. I hate seeing anything suffer.
975872
Snap traps don't always kill immediately; sometimes they merely cripple or paralyze the creature, incidentally causing great pain. They also often go off without actually killing their target, allowing the animal to take the bait and be fed while accomplishing zero towards removal of the pest.
As for the rest of your emotion-laden whine-fest, what's "wrong" with me is that I value human life over insignificant and outright hostile animals. Now, mice aren't intentionally hostile or destructive—they're just doing what is natural and our stuff happens to be in the way and they lack any sort of intelligence to recognize that. I bear them no special malice as they're little more than fleshy robots, doing what they've been essentially programmed to do. But because of this I also have no sympathy for such creatures, the same way I would have no sympathy for any other machine. Mice and other creatures typically named "vermin" are not thinking beings, they are not higher creatures with some form of emotion like dogs, cats, horses, wolves, bears, etc., et al. What "pain" they feel is nothing but sensory data to a brain too insignificant to recognize it.
And let us not forget that mice are more than just nasty little mindless machines that eat our food: they are disease vectors. Often they carry blood-sucking parasites like fleas that easily cross over to humans whenever they feel like it (Bubonic Plague, remember that? Or did you not study history?), and since they are so exceptionally unintelligent, they crap everywhere, causing sanitation problems of that sort as well. And then there's the fact that if one of them dies in a wall you've got the problems assorted with that whole kettle of fish as well.
So what is "wrong" with me is that I have a value system where neither humans nor large and rather more intelligent (relatively speaking) animals are placed on the same level as biological machines with no true intelligence. Especially creatures like mice which are unintentionally, but undeniably hostile towards human life whenever they intrude upon our domiciles. As they feel no pity nor remorse towards us, so I waste none on them. I will save my sympathies for creatures that aren't responsible for millions of human deaths and billions in property damage.
So you can of course go whine at someone else, bleeding heart. I remember that this world is unfathomably hostile and indifferent towards the suffering of sapient beings, and no amount of your finger-wagging will ever erase that reality, nor change the fact that your sympathy is misdirected away from your fellow humans and towards an unthinking animal. I should be the one asking "what is wrong with you, regarding human life so lowly that mere mice arouse sympathy?"
Go. ████. Yourself. And darken my inbox no more.
975872>>975996
What the hay is wrong with you two? This blogpost is nearly half a year old. And you guys are arguing about MICE on it, for pete's sake.
Honestly, the mouse has been dead for over half a year. Lets move on...
976234
No, fuck you, you heartless wanker. I was civil in my first post, but nah... you want to be a jerk? Fine. I'll be a jerk back to you. Gloves are off then, douchebag. Not surprising considering your moronic justifications to torture an animal to death.
Snap traps work well most of the time. Do you think a glue trap is infallible? The animal can escape it too. The whole friggin' point is a quick and merciful death, that's what snap traps are designed for. It's not designed to torture it.
How's that even relevant? You are valuing human life higher simply by killing the animal, but that's not the issue here. The issue here is being a dick by starving a mouse to death, or letting it linger on a glue trap for an indefinite period of time without killing it. Saying that's wrong isn't putting any value over any human being, you're just being a callous wanker.
Your absolute ignorance and uneducated thoughts on the matter explain everything here. You couldn't be dumber on the subject if you tried.
Placing a "vermin" tag doesn't suddenly render such animals an inability to suffer/feel pain, and it doesn't somehow make them "non-thinking". After all, foxes, feral cats, raccoons - to name a few - are considered vermin in some places. Even bears when wandering close to human habitats, the same animal you mentioned with a form of "emotion", can also be considered vermin. Hell, even some human beings can be considered vermin! Thus, the title 'vermin' means absolutely nothing in terms of cognitive power or what one can feel. You're just using it to justify being a dick.
"Sensory data", "not thinking beings" - who are you fucking kidding? They're mammals, not robots. All of them posses similar nervous systems and processes by which pain is interpreted. Why the fuck do you think these animals will attempt to chew their leg off if stuck in a trap? Or squeal if injured? How does a mouse evade a damn trap by not thinking? Actually, how can you even train a mouse to do simple tricks (and yes, it is possible) if it couldn't think? The mouse is a model for many different kinds of psychological experiments, if they were unthinking then they would be useless - clearly not. On top of that, mice have similar facial expressions to humans when in pain, are possibly capable of empathy and can get depressed. Mice have been shown to use their own memories to solve problems. As for being to insignificant to recognise pain, mice can suffer from post-traumatic stress. And even if they didn't recognise pain, animals don't need to understand pain to feel it. Does a dog understand when it has an abusive owner beating it up? Does a baby, who isn't intelligent enough yet to fully comprehend what's happening to it? Two examples right there to illustrate that you don't necessary need to understand pain to feel it.
So you're wrong on all counts, moron, they are certainly not the "unthinking robots" you'd like to believe they are. Mice feel no less pain than a dog or cat does, intelligence isn't a prerequisite for feeling pain. Last time I checked, fear is an emotion - and mice have that. But I suppose pretending they're inanimate objects makes it easier to justify this stupid cruel shit hey? I don't give a flying fuck if people kill them, we're not even discussing the merits of that, but don't pretend they're some kind of machine to justify excessive and pointless cruelty. I don't care that you value one animal less than the other, it's still animal cruelty, plain and simple. Pain is pain - whether it's done to a mouse, a cat, or to a bear. It's the same fucking thing in principle. The only difference with humans and some of the higher-end animals is the ability to comprehend it. Saying that as a matter-of-fact isn't trumping the value of the animal over another, it's you placing a deliberate strawman because you can't argue the fucking point.
Mice aren't inanimate objects, to liken them to a machine is ridiculously stupid in the extreme. Have already explained why they're not.
Point? Oh, so because their cousins from generations ago helped spread a disease, it means it's OK to be cruel to them? Torture them? What the fuck? What the hell do you think humans have been doing to each other since the beginning? A lot more worse things, the list is almost endless! Aren't humans vectors for disease too, you anthropocentric fuck? Do you think it's OK for humans to torture other humans as well? How is this historical tidbit relevant, when we're talking about what is abject, unnecessary cruelty to animals? You give a case of why such animals need to be controlled/culled, but that isn't even the fucking issue. Instead you try to use the negative aspects of a species as an excuse for pointless, excessive cruelty.
I hardly see the plague being of any relevance here to the morality of leaving something to die on a trap in great amounts of pain. The plague was a combination of incredibly poor sanitation, the lack of knowledge about how diseases spread, religiously stupid people killing off rodents' natural predators because they were the "devil" and human-to-human transmission via the respiratory type of Plague. Using it as an argument to be a barbaric douchebag has no logical basis, especially considering that killing an animal in such a way you describe doesn't amount to anything in this context (ie. it's IRRELEVANT).
Exceptionally unintelligent because it shits everywhere? That doesn't even make any fucking sense. Even a dog will crap everywhere if not trained properly. A significant portion of wild animals crap everywhere. That doesn't necessarily make them unintelligent. The reason mice shit everywhere is because they have incredibly fast metabolisms, they can't help it! Has nothing to do with intelligence. Speaking of which, people will often comment that mice show intelligence by evading traps and following simple commands (people have trained pet mice before, shocking I know, perhaps your feeble mind will take some time to absorb that). I even gave you a damn link that exhibits mouse intelligence (and I can provide more just to show what an ignorant ass you are).
Your value system? What a crock. Your 'value system' dictates that it's OK to make something suffer/torture it simply because you deem it more insignificant than either yourself, or of your species (hmmm reminds me of someone vaaaguely familiar in history...). A thought that's based on something entirely inaccurate. In other words, it's an anthropocentric fallacy. Pain and suffering is universal with mammals because they feel the same fucking thing when getting hurt, and by that I mean "OW SHIT THAT HURTS STOP IT". Some mammals might not have the same reflective and self-assessed rational thinking of human beings, but they don't need to - the pain is still felt. If you wouldn't torture a 'large animal' like a dog to death by sticking it in a vat of glue and starving it to death as it wails in pain and dies slowly, why the fuck would you do that to a mouse that feels the same damn thing? It's the principle of the matter you tossbag.
No, what's wrong with you is that you're a cruel jerk. You don't need to place something like a damn mouse on the same or higher level of those animals you mentioned to show some damn decency/respect when killing it. There you go again with "no true intelligence", do you even know what intelligence is? How do you define "true intelligence"? Your statement that mice are unthinking, biological machines is false.
Compassion isn't a finite currency, idiot. For creatures? Like humans? Sounds like a creature responsible for the above things too! Great logic there! Most deaths caused by animals are the result of human negligence and stupidity. A mouse doesn't kill you directly. But it's easier to blame the animal rather than the species that caused it all to happen in the first place, hmm? Such lazy, stupid thinking.
Would rather be a bleeding heart than a heartless sack of shit.
Yeah, so we should just all be assholes like you right? It takes hardly any effort to give the animal a quick thwack to the head to end its suffering. That the world is a cruel place to other humans isn't an excuse to be a dick, even if the animal is "insignificant" to you. Misdirected? Haha, what a laugh... how am I misdirecting anything? Feeling remorse and compassion for another animal and having the same feelings for humans isn't mutually exclusive you idiot. How am I regarding human life lowly just because I have sympathy for another animal suffering, and just because I disagree laying a fucking trap only to starve the thing to death while it rips pieces of itself off trying to escape? Explain me that, genius.
As I said: If you have to end it, end it quickly and with little pain. It's fucking cruel and inhumane leaving them on the trap to starve to death. What part of this don't you understand? Are you completely devoid of a conscience? Or are you just stupid?
TL;DR: The point I'm getting at is - starving little creatures to death on super glue isn't nice, there are better ways, more humane ways to kill a problem animal. You're advocating unnecessary cruelty on the back of incredibly stupid and ignorant comments, like mice are "unthinking" and the pain they feel is just "sensory data" that should be shrugged off. They're mammals not fucking robots and disliking them suffer isn't indicative of regarding "human life lowly" or "valuing them the same/above human beings". Cut the stupid strawman bullshit and address the crux of the issue - that it's wrong to deliberately prolong extreme agony like that. To any animal. The animal can't help what it is and doesn't mean you ill intent, so why fucking torture it like that you absolute douche?
Ball's in your court, fuckface. Either have something reasonably intelligent to say or don't bother, ripping your arguments to shreds is all too easy especially since your position is ignorant, uneducated and shallow minded.
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My apologies then. I don't want to sound to snappy or crude but... it's hard with someone like that... especially with a controversial topic. It's something I'm passionate about. I can't stand animal cruelty, will not tolerate it and his excuses one iota.
It's just that this person justifies such a level of barbarity simply because he thinks the animal is some kind of inanimate object, despite the fact it's a mammal and all mammals have similar mechanisms to feel pain. He's a disgusting individual and he's wrong.
976234
It's hilarious how you can rationalise what is pretty much animal cruelty with something like "humans are superior", or some other stupid shit that wasn't even suggested (like accusing the person of holding human life low).
Your rationalisations are stupid, and so are you. What purpose is there to starve the animal to death? Because you think it's less intelligent than a dog, so that means it's ok to do something like that? Since when was intelligence a prerequisite to feeling pain? Torturing animals is not alright whether is a mouse or a dog, matters not if it's a pest or not. You absolute dipshit.
To cause extreme pain and suffering to something so defenceless and helpless... then nonchalantly defend this... yeah, it takes a special person to do something so abhorrent. You're a sicko alright.
PS. Before you attempt to misinterpret me with your shithouse arguments: Nobody wants wild rats/mice in there home, so wanting to kill them as unwanted visitors is perfectly reasonable. What is unacceptable and inhumane is tormenting and torturing the animal. Maybe if you weren't such a piece of shit, you'd realise that.
976234
Blocking me now?
Typical act of a coward. If you can't take criticism, then don't post shit. Just imagine what Fluttershy would feel about you, she'd probably try and kick you out of the fandom. =)
Funniest bit of your stupidity:
Putting pain in quotemarks, as if to pretend that it doesn't exist for these animals, wow. What is your veterinary or animal behaviour background that makes you qualified enough to make such definite statements? Even 'higher' creatures are classified as vermin in some areas. Live in Alaska and you'll see bears going through people's rubbish, or being a general nuisance. But it's much easier to abuse animals you consider having 'no emotion', 'unthinking' and an 'insignificant brain so pain is not recognised' (even though the statements are totally bullshit, especially the last one). You have no clue at all.