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Feb
16th
2024

Fight for change · 7:35pm February 16th

I set up a petition to allow stories that follow the plot of other series.

https://chng.it/pJkGM5PQYW

Please go there so that we may change the rules of this site and be free to write what we choose to.

Comments ( 112 )

I already signed mine, I’m in

Comment posted by Mkchief34 deleted February 16th

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Did you even count how many stories have used the plot of other series.

If you enforce what we can and can't write that would take all the fun put of Fimfiction.

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Genfic is not gonna happen. That's pretty much the stance the Admins and Knighty have taken. I'm also not trying to censor anyone, but stating that this site was made for MLP fiction. If genfic would ever be allowed, how would the site be any different from Fanfiction.net wth an MLP skin and a different UI?

Plus, people have raised this request before, and been denied every single time as far as I know.

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All I ask is that we be allowed to implement the plot of other series into MLP style, make crossovers based on those events.

Not to stop original stories but being allowed to write MLP stories the way we want them to be.

I'm not asking to put a pure Ninjago story on Fimfiction with no reference or homeage to Mlp just to write an mlp styled story based on the plot of Ninjago.

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Edit - What you want is literally allowed already. People have made stories like that.

So why do you need to petition for something that you already have?

What you want is literally the foundations of a Crossover. You want an example?
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/418151/sapr

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But I don’t understand why. That rule would basically remove the crossover tab and delete many fan favorites stories, including Anon-a-Miss stories.

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According to a chat mod in Discord

People do this all the time. You just can't rewrite the story of Ninjago or whatever where all the characters are ponies and all the settings are in Equestria but there's nothing otherwise original.

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And how is that bad? It's not like anyone is claiming they now automatically own Ninjago or mlp

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It's not. You're advocating for a rule change that doesn't need to happen since it was already implemented.

That's what I am confused about.

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It still uses the plot elements of RWBY. Even if Cinder is different from how she is in the Canon series how.

And the teams are still comprised of four members and characters like Ruby, Pyrrha, and Jaune are still true to their character.

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Because Eldorado is trying to delete every story that isn't original.

And I mean every story. Maybe even that Rwby one you showed me.

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YES, Because that's how the author wrote it, and how they wrote the story is well within the rules.

I'm genuinely confused right now.

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EDIT
I just spoke with Eldorado on Discord.

His exact words state that Copy/paste stories are not allowed.

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I told him there were plenty of stories that used the plots of other series and he demanded I report them so he could delete them.

He already deleted Ninjago Stories because even though they followed the transcript of Ninjago there were still parts of Originality in them

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That's a misinterpretation.

He's telling you that those stories had to be removed because the authors of those stories are breaking the site rules.

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And that’s just it, Blaze didn't copy and paste his ninjago stories he wrote them himself, while using the transcripts of Ninjago to write the lines.

But made room to add his own originality into the stories

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But it isn't a 1:1 thing though.
It has some additions such as 2 extra ninjas in the core part.

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But I’very read those stories and while there are elements from those other series there is some originality in them.

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If he wasn't the original author, he can't post it here. Even if had permission. If he did write those Ninjago transcripts himself, it would be different, but writing a story with material that isn't yours is plagiarism, and that is also against the rules.

It states clearly that if you are not the original author or the co author, you CANNOT POST IT, even if you have permission.

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But he did write the my little Ninjago series.

It's just writing the events of Ninjago in the world of Mlp.

That's no different than the Little Pony Legend Series or Sora's Misadventures in Equestria.

The plot and transcript is still there but there is some originality

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Doesn't matter.

If the material used to create the story isn't his original writing, it's plagiarism, whether he has permission or not.

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That is literally a COPY PASTE STORY you are describing.

As for the two stories you used as examples, they're allowed because they don't use transcripts from a wiki page as the baseline. They created their own dialogues, plot points, and nuances all on their own.

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How does that apply to a fanfic that's not official or Canon to that main series.

Your making it sound like we're only writing stuff that needs to be part of the official mlp timeline.

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This is already allowed, and still goes on.

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That's what I've been trying to tell him!

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DUDE.

Those stories don't have plagiarized content.

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You are literally overthinking this to a degree I cannot describe.

Read the site rules, please, I am begging you.

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But Eldorado told me that it wasn’t.

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BECAUSE YOU MISINTERPRETED WHAT ELDORADO SAID IN THE FIRST PLACE!

Using the plots of other stories as a basis for another is PLAGIARISM. THAT'S WHAT IS AGAINST THE RULES HERE.

Petitions only work if others have a good reason to listen to your demands. This petition has no reason to exist , and is begging for people to send in low effort fics completely plagiarizing other existing intellectual property.

There has to be originality in a story for it to be worth reading. Who wants to read the plot of Ninjago retold with no meaningful changes several times in a row?

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How do you know that.

Did you read the transcripts.

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Then explain it to me?

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But it did.

There were adopted Serpentine Children.

New villainous commanders not in the original Ninjago story line.

Extra chapters and content that is not in the official series.

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But he wasn't using another story's plot.

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1. I ASKED ELDORADO OVER DISCORD LITERALLY AS I WROTE THAT COMMENT.

2. I DON'T HAVE TO. To use the transcripts as a story basis IS PLAGARISM. WHO CARES IF I'VE READ THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE?

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HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO EXPLAIN IT?

YOU CANNOT WRITE THE STORY OF NINJAGO AS YOUR OWN JUST BECAUSE YOU MADE, LIKE, 3 CHANGES AND ADDED PONIES AS THE MAIN CAST.

JUST LIKE HOW I CAN'T POST THE ENTIRETY OF GAME OF THRONES WITH MLP CHARACTERS BECAUSE I DIDN'T CREATE GAME OF THRONES.

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Didn't you just say it does? Especially since you said it uses the actual transcript lines

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HE LITERALLY COPY PASTED THE TRANSCRIPTS OF THE NINJAGO SERIES. THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF USING SOMEONE ELSES PLOT, AND THUS, PLAGIARISM. YOU ALSO SAID IT USED THE ACTUAL TRANSCRIPTS. AGAIN, PLAGIARISM!
You can't just take 95% of someone else's story, add 5% of your own, and say that you wrote it. IT HAS TO BE 100% ORIGINAL. NO MORE NO LESS!

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Again, this is true.

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If what I'm after is already allowed then show me the rule.

Hi, not-chat-mod here. I won't presume to speak on behalf of site staff or really anyone else who has the power to write the rules, but I do think of myself as a reader of the rules, so hopefully I can help.

This rule seems to be at issue here:

Don’t Post (Content)

  • ...
  • Stories you did not write. If you are not the original author or a co-author, you cannot post it, even with permission. This includes “novelizing” a comic, movie, game, etc. that you did not create. For example: a Halo crossover with the same plot, scenes, dialogue, etc. but with the characters replaced by ponies.

Now, I'm gonna be honest, I thought this was pretty clear. You're not allowed to post stories you did not write, either in their entirety or adapted, novelized, and ponified to fit an MLP tag. And yet crossovers are allowed, sometimes even with a lot of parallels to the original works. Evidently some amount of originality is required to separate the allowed stories from the disallowed ones, and it is the unenviable job of the site mods to judge on that amount.

I don't know anything about Ninjago, but I'd say using transcripts as the basis of your story with "some originality" doesn't cut it. Maybe come up with your own stuff, like everybody else? Maybe? Oh well.

The petition is a great bit.

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You have argued with a fool, and now you are getting beaten with experience. Time to bail!

1. Stories that plagiarize other stories. This means intentionally copying another author’s words and presenting them as your own.

2. Stories you did not write. If you are not the original author or a co-author, you cannot post it, even with permission. This includes “novelizing” a comic, movie, game, etc. that you did not create. For example: a Halo crossover with the same plot, scenes, dialogue, etc. but with the characters replaced by ponies.
[...]
5. Stories that are not related to My Little Pony. Your story must be related to the MLP universe at the time of submission, or else it will be rejected.

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Your petition isn't specific enough anyways on what you're asking for. All it asks is to post stories from other series, which is completely different from all these examples you're providing.

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I'm just scared Eldorado will come after me and my favorite authorrs to delete our stories just because their not original enough for him

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He can and he likely will. He has the discretion to do so if those stories violate the rules.

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No I Just want it to be allowed to write stories that follow the plot of other series.

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