The sun is shining, the birds are chirping and there isn’t a cloud in the sky as we join Rarity in Ponyville. She’s happily walking down the road greeting ponies as she makes her way to the Castle of Friendship. She comes to the castle door, knocks on it and waits for an answer. She soon hears a familiar voice from inside the castle say, “Coming.” As the door opens, Twilight is standing there with a smile on her face as she says, “Rarity, you made it. This is great. Everypony else is already here. Come on in.”
“Thank you, Twilight, dear. I do hope I’m not too late.” Rarity says with a warm smile as she makes her way inside the castle and the friends begin to walk down the corridor towards the dining room.
Twilight chuckles and says, “Not at all. You’re fashionably late as always, Rarity.” This made Rarity giggle along with her before they come to the dining room door and open it to walk in. As the mares do, a loud bang goes off and confetti comes down over them as Pinkie Pie goes running up to Rarity and pulls her into a bone crushing hug as she says, “Rarity, you’re here! Now we can start the party! YAY!”
As Pinkie releases her from the hug, Rarity gaps for air before smiling at her friend and removing some confetti from her mane as she says, “Yes, I suppose we can. Sorry for making you wait, Pinkie dear. I know how you like a good party.”
Pinkie Pie happily bounces over to her seat and says, “It’s ok. You’re here now. That’s the main thing,” as she lands in her seat with a smile. Twilight and Rarity make their way over to some seats around the table and join the others.
“Hello girls,” Rarity says with a smile. “I’m sorry for keeping you waiting.”
“That’s ok, Rarity,” Fluttershy says as she smiles at her friend.
“Yeah, don’t fret about it, sugar cube. You haven’t missed anything. It’s just nice to be able to take a break from the farm every now and then,” Applejack says as she looks at her friend, with a smile.
“Says you. I’m starving. What kept ya, Rarity?” Rainbow Dash asked as she glared at her friend with folded arms in annoyance at having to wait.
As Rarity clears her throat, she says, “Yes. Well, sorry, Rainbow Dash. I was just finishing off my latest creation and it took a little longer than I would have liked.”
“Called it,” Rainbow Dash said as she sniggered before holding out her hoof to Applejack. Applejack had a disgruntled face as she placed some bits into Rainbow Dashes hoof before saying, “I was so sure it was gonna be something else this time. Guess I should of known better.”
As Rainbow continues to laugh, Rarity looked shocked and said, “You bet on why I was going to be late?”
Rainbow stopped laughing and said, “It wasn’t much of a bet if you ask me.”
“Well, I never,” Rarity said looking a bit annoyed at her friends.
Applejack looked at Rarity and said with a smile, “We don’t mean anything bad. It was just a bit of harmless fun between friends.”
As Rarity takes a breath, she says, “Well I suppose you have a point,” as she smiles back at Applejack. Just then the dining room door opens and Cadance walks in.
“Oh, Rarity, you’re here,” Cadance says happily as she makes her way over to a seat next to Twilight and sits down.
Rarity smiles back and says, “Hello, Princess Cadance, what a pleasant surprise. I had no idea you were coming to our little lunch date today.”
Cadance giggled and said, “Please, Rarity, just call me Cadance. We’re all friends here. As for this little get together, Twilight invited me last night. I didn’t think I was going to be able to make it, but Shining Armor insisted that I come. Although I don’t like the idea of leaving him and little Flurry Heart at the Crystal Empire, he said that I never get any time off, so I should come and enjoy myself for a change. So here I am.”
As Cadance looks around the table and smiles at everyone she says, “Between you and me, it’s been such a long time since I got to just relax and be one of the girls. I’m really looking forward to just being able to let my mane down and not having to worry for a change.”
As everyone smiles back at Cadance, Rarity says, “Yes, I can’t imagine how hard it must be to be a princess with so many responsibilities. You must be worn out with all the work you have to do.”
“Hey! I’m a princess too you know, and I have to run the school of Friendship. It’s no picnic for me either, you know.” Twilight says as she folds her arms and looks at Rarity.
“Oh yes, yes. Of course, Twilight.” Rarity says with a sympathetic smile before saying, “All I meant was that Cadance has to run the whole Crystal Empire and never gets time to just relax like us, so I’m glad she was able to make it.”
Twilight unfolded her arms and laughed as she says, “I know Rarity. I was just playing with you. I think it’s great that Cadance was able to come. We hardly ever get to spend time together anymore... Well unless Equestria is in danger.”
“Well, my Pinkie sense isn’t going off, so nothing dangerous to worry about.” Pinkie Pie happily says with a big smile on her face.
“Oh, that’s good to hear. At least I don’t have to worry about my poor little animal friends getting hurt,” Fluttershy says as she takes a calming breath.
“Please, we’re amazing. Even if anything was to happen, we could deal with it within 10 seconds flat,” Rainbow Dash says with a smug grin on her face.
“Well, if you ask me the most dangerous thing is that ego of yours RD.” Applejack says as she began to laugh, joined shortly by all the others in the room.
Twilight stands up and says, “Let me just go get the food. I’ll be right back,” as she starts making her way out of the room.
“Hey Twily, let me help,” as Cadance starts to stand up before Twilight shakes her head and says, “Don’t be silly. You are all my guests. I’m quite capable of getting some food. Just sit back and relax,” she says as she walks out the room.
“Hmmm, that’s strange,” Rarity says as everyone looks at her, “Doesn’t Spikey-wikey, normally do that sort of thing? Come to think of it, where is he? He would normally be here to greet me by now.”
“Oh right. You weren’t here earlier,” Cadance says as she looks at Rarity. “Spike was here but was summoned to Canterlot Castle by Princess Celestia for some royal duties. He’ll probably be back later tonight.”
“Oh, I see. That’s too bad. I had hoped to see him today, but I guess it can wait till tomorrow,” Rarity says giving off a bit of a sad smile.
Just then, Twilight came back into the room carrying some big plates of food, smaller plates for her friends, drinks, and cupcakes and placed them on the table with her magic. After Twilight takes her seat, everyone starts to help themselves to the food and drink. All except Rarity. She clears her throat to get Twilight’s attention and says, “Twilight, I do hate to be a bother, I really do. It’s just I-“
As Twilight smiles at her friend a flash of purple light goes off in front of Rarity, cutting her off, as she looks down to see all her favourite foods on a plate for her and the daisy sandwiches with the crust cut off, just how she likes them. As Rarity looks back up at Twilight, she smiles as she says, “Oh, thank you Twilight. I do hope it wasn’t too much trouble. I don’t mean to be picky; I just can’t eat the crust.”
Twilight lets out a giggle and says, “It was no trouble for me at all. All this food was made by Spike this morning before he left. He knows how you like the crust cut off.”
As Rarity smiles warmly at the thought, she whispers, “Such a sweet little dragon.”
Just then, Pinkie Pie lets out a massive belly laugh and as everyone looks at her, she says, “That makes sense now. I thought these cupcakes tasted like Spike’s. I mean no offense Twilight, but you’re no baker.”
As everyone joins in on the laughter, Twilight says, “None taken, Pinkie Pie. I know where my talent lies and it’s not baking,” making everyone laugh harder.
As Pinkie pie scarfs down a cupcake, she says, “These are really good. I’m lucky he’s your number one assistant, Twilight, cuz if he ever went into business selling cupcakes, me and the Cake’s would have some real compaction on our hooves. Let me tell ya.”
Applejack joined in the conversation by saying, “I couldn’t agree more, Pinkie,” as she puts down her drink with a smile and then continues to say, “That little guy sure can cook.”
“Yeah, he’s not too bad,” Rainbow says as she finishes off her sandwich before saying, “He’s really come along in his flying as well. I mean, he’ll never be as awesome as me, but with a bit more training I recon he could even try out for the Wonderbolts. Hey, that’s not a bad idea. Just think about it. Spike being the first dragon to be a Wonderbolt. That would be so cool!”
As Twilight places her cup down on the table and grins at Rainbow Dash, she says, “Sorry, Rainbow. Not gonna happen. Spike’s my assistant and you can’t have him.” Rainbow shrugs her shoulders and goes back in for some more food.
As a few of the girls let out a few laughs, Cadance asks, “So what have you all been up to lately?”
Twilight smiles at her sister-in-law and says, “Well, since the students have broken up for the semester, I’ve just been working on plans for the new term.” As Twilight’s smile gets bigger, she says, “In fact, I worked out that if we can take registration more sufficiently. Then we could have 5 seconds off of form room and it will give the students more time to get to the first class.”
As the girls begin to snigger at what Twilight said, Cadance placed her hoof over her mouth and says, “Oh my, that is impressive, Twilight,” as she tried to hold back her laughter, so not to hurt Twilight’s feelings.
As Twilight stared at her friends with a look on her face that says, ‘See, I knew she’d be impressed,’ Rainbow Dash leaned back in her chair and said, “That’s Twilight for ya,” before saying, “As for yours truly, I’ve just been helping the weather team out and working on my routine with the Wonderbolt’s.”
Applejack put her drink down and says, “Well, as you know most of my time gets taken up by work on the farm. Fun thing though, I woke up this morning to go buck some apple tree’s and it was all done. In fact, the whole orchard was done.” Applejack turned and gave Futtershy a knowing smile.
Fluttershy let out a quiet little giggle as she looked back at Applejack and says, “Yeah, Discord was telling me that he wanted to talk to Big Mac about O&O. So, I may have mentioned that because of your work schedule, you and Big Mac don’t get a lot of time off. I may have also said that because of this, you may not be able to make it to our little lunch today. I guess Discord really wanted to talk to Big Mac about O&O,” as Fluttershy finished giggling, she says, “I do hope he didn’t cause you any problems?”
Applejack laughed and says, “Not at all. Gave us all a bit of a fright waking up to see all the apples in there baskets, but we were grateful for his help. Granny even made sure to make him an apple pie as thanks.”
Fluttershy smiled and says, “I’m so glad,” before looking over to Rarity and asking, “You just came back from your trip from Manehattan, right? How is Rarity For You doing?”
Rarity places her drink down and smiles as she says, “Yes, the shop is doing fine. Thank you for asking, dear. I just had to go over there and check up on things while dropping off some new designs. Although, I did meet a nice unicorn stallion while there by the name of Emerald Cloud and he mentioned that he was coming to Ponyville tomorrow, so I offered to meet up with him.”
“Oh, really?” Cadance asked with a hint of curiosity in her voice.
Rarity smiles happily and says, “Yes, apparently he likes to travel to places he hasn’t been to before and said Ponyville sounded like a nice place to come see. So, I of course told him that Ponyville is like no other place, and after talking about how much I loved it here he said he just had to come see it himself.”
Twilight looks over to Rarity and says, “That’s great Rarity, sounds like you made a new friend.”
As Rarity picks up her drink, she smiles at Twilight and says, “It appears so.”
As time goes on, the girls happily chat away, enjoying themselves. Twilight decides to go get some more drinks and leaves the room, Rarity finishes the last bit of her sandwich and wipes her mouth before saying, “That was truly delicious. I must remember to thank Spike for putting on such a lovely spread.” Just then an idea came to her as she says with a bright smile, “I know. I have some gems from our last gem hunt together that I saw him eyeing up. I’ll give them to him as a thank you for going to such an effort.”
Cadance stifles a giggle and says, “I’m sure he’ll like that, Rarity. You know how he likes a good gem to snack on.”
Rarity lets out a giggle of her own and says, “It’s the least I could do for him. He’s such a hard working baby dragon. Why, it wouldn’t be right not to at least thank him in some way.”
Cadance lets out a small sigh, as she says, “Huh, right, of course.” Getting a confused look from Rarity, Cadance takes a deep breath before saying, “Why do you keep calling him a baby dragon?”
This gets the attention of the other girls as they all now look at Cadance, before Rainbow Dash says, “Err hello, cuz he is. I mean, he’s a baby dragon after all.” All the girls had the same look on their faces at Rainbow Dash’s answer, a look that said that’s right.
Cadance lets out another sigh as she shakes her head before looking at all the girls and saying, “Yes, technically, Spike is a baby dragon, however, do you even know how old he is?”
As the girls all look around at each other, not one of them could give an answer to Cadance’s question. Cadance gave them a saddened look as she said, “Spike has been in Ponyville for years and has even had birthdays here and you’re telling me not one of you even knows his age?”
As Cadance watched the girls looking around at each other feeling dejected, Pinkie Pie, looking sorrowful with her mane a bit deflated, says, “We have celebrated Spike’s birthday, but every time I try to find out how old he is, I was shot down by him. Even Twilight wouldn’t tell me.”
After hearing Pinkie’s answer, Cadance closed her eyes before saying, “It’s not hard to figure out if you put some thought into it. In fact, given how well you plan things, Pinkie, I thought you of all ponies would of figured it out.” As Cadance opened her eyes to look at them all, she continued to say, “Twilight hatched Spike when she got her Cutie Mark, as you all know since that is when you got your marks too.”
As a look of realisation washes over them all, they all sit there for a moment in shock before Pinkie asked, “What, are you saying Spike is only 4 years younger than Twilight, Applejack, Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy? This means he’s only 3 years younger than me and Rarity.”
As they all watch Cadance nod her head, Rarity shouts, “What!?! How can that be? I thought dragon’s age differently to ponies?”
Cadance looks around the room and says, “They don’t. They age at the same rate ponies do, only they live longer so their bodies normally take longer to grow like with the molt effect. However, a dragon can also grow in other ways, rather than growing naturally, they ca-
Just then, Fluttershy cuts in and asks, “You mean, like when Spike grew from his greed?”
Cadance smiles gently at her and says, “Yes, greed is one way they can grow, but from my understanding it isn’t greed that makes them grow, rather it’s the need to protect what is theirs that makes them grow. Most dragons grow when there is an overwhelming need to do so, be it to protect their treasure or for other reasons.” As Cadance sighs, she continues to say, “Which is why, because of his age, Spike is still seen as a baby dragon by dragon culture, but here in Equestria, where he was raised and lives, for all intense and purposes, Spike is an adult.”
As all the girls still sit there in shock of this new information about Spike, Rarity starts to stutter as she says, “B...bu...but Twilight still calls him her baby dragon!”
Cadance looks at Rarity and says, “Of course, she does. He is her baby brother after all. Not to mention Twilight and Spike have been together since she was young. She did hatch him after all. I mean, seriously, did none of you think it was strange how Spike was working as Twilight’s number one assistant if you thought he was only a baby? Or how about all the help he gives each of you when you need it? Not to mention the work he does for the other Princesses. What exactly do you think Spike does when he is summoned to Canterlot Castle for royal duties? Play games?”
As Cadance continues to look around at everyone looking shocked, she says, “Spike isn’t just Twilight’s number one assistant. He is without doubt one of the most trusted creatures in all of Equestria. It isn’t an exaggeration when I say that the Princesses, me included, have come to depend on him greatly. The help and support he has given us over the years is not something just any creature could do.” As Cadance smiles warmly at them all, she says, “The title of number one assistant truly is a title only he could hold. That is how amazing Spike truly is.”
After taking a quick drink and still seeing the girls sitting there in silence, Cadance says, “Admittedly, we have only come to understand this much about dragon culture because of how things are with the dragons now. Since the school of Friendship opened, Spike and Twilight have learnt all they can from Smolder about dragons, for instance, when a dragon reaches adulthood they gain the ability to control their size and can choose to be whatever size they wish.” As Cadance takes a breath, she asks, “Did none of you think to even inquire into dragon culture when there was a dragon at your school?”
Seeing the downtrodden looks on all their faces, Cadance snorts as she laughs and says, “I mean come on, I know Aunty Luna can be a bit scary at times, but not even she would put a baby to work,” getting a few half smiles from some of the girls at her attempted little joke.
A million thoughts begin to run through Rarity’s head as she says, “But, why didn’t he ever tell us? Tell me!?”
Cadance sighs before saying, “Can you imagine how hard it must be for him? A dragon living amongst ponies and looking like a baby, always being looked down upon? I guess he just figured it would be easier to play the part rather than having to try telling the ponies around him that he was actually around the same age as them each any every time. He did try to once or twice back in the day, but the ponies didn’t believe him and even worse, teased him about it. So I guess that’s why he never told any of you and knowing Spike, he probably asked Twilight not to say anything either.”
“But we’re his friends. We would have believed him!” Rarity said getting a bit angry at the idea of Spike keeping such a secret from her.
“Yeah, it doesn’t make a difference what age Spike is. He’s still our friend, no matter what!” Fluttershy said as a smile returned to her face.
Cadance couldn’t help smile at them all hearing Fluttershy say that and seeing them all nod in agreement. All except Rarity, who just sat there quietly, as Cadance looked over at Rarity with a sympathetic smile, she said, “I’m sure this isn’t easy for you all. But, Spike must have his reasons for not wanting to tell you- to tell all of you. In truth, I shouldn’t have told any of you this, but it wasn’t hidden from any of you. You just didn’t look into it. Maybe because it was easier not to do so.”
Rarity gives Cadance a small but yet sad smile before Cadance looks around at them all and says, “I would greatly appreciate it if you could all keep this to yourselves and not tell anyone, and not even discuss it with Twilight. Best to wait for Spike to come out and tell you himself,” as Cadance takes one last glance at Rarity and smiles, she says, “Maybe then you will find out the reason why he chose to keep this from you.”
As Cadance watched the girls give her a Pinkie promise, she smiles at them and says, “Thank you girls. I know it must of been shocking to find this out, but I wanted you to know, so you would have time to get used to the idea before Spike told you himself.”
As the girls all give Cadance a nod of understanding, she smiles and picks up her drink, saying, “So tell me, what’s it like being teachers?”
As the girls told Cadance about their experiences at teaching, they were happy for the change in conversation, none more than Rarity. Even though she joined in on the conversation, however, she was more quite now than before.
Just then, Twilight came back in with a smile on her face as she placed drinks down on the table and said, "Sorry for the wait, girls. How about some fresh drinks?” Before anyone had chance to answer, a scroll appeared in front of Twilight. As she used her magic to open it, she says, “It must be from Spike. I’m glad Celestia taught me the spell to be able to send and receive letters from Spike like her now.”
As she quickly scanned over the letter, she said, “It’s from Celestia. She says that she’s sorry to ask this, but she needs your assistance with a matter at Canterlot, Cadance.”
Cadance stands up and smiles as she says, “A princess' work is never done. Sorry to eat and run everypony, but it’s been nice speaking to you all. Twilight, could you tell her I’m on my way?” As Cadance watches Twilight send a response she smiles at her sister-in-law and gives her a quick hug before saying, “Thanks for the invite, Twily. Sorry about this and thanks again, girls. This was fun. Let’s do it again sometime,” before saying her final goodbyes to everyone and leaving for Canterlot Castle.
After she was gone, the girls stuck around for a few more hours to enjoy themselves before all deciding to call it a day and go their separate ways. Later, at night, as Rarity was getting ready for bed, she sat in front of her mirror and opened a drawer. She pulled out a box and took out the fire ruby Spike had so generously given her on his first birthday in Ponyville. As she touched it with her hoof, her thoughts went back to that day they were falling to their doom and of him going to tell her how he felt. A tear starts to form in her eye as she whispers, “Oh, Spike, why didn’t you tell me about all this?” before slamming the box closed, placing it back into the draw and climbing into bed.
Apple Bloom is older than Spike is; note the absence of her parents in "Cutie Mark Chronicles." If Spike is an adult, then the Crusaders should be fully grown. Really, those three should have gotten new bodies a couple of years into the show. Of course, that would have messed with the toy line.
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Huh, that is a bit strange but that was before Faust left the show, I’m not sure if Bright Mac and Pear Butter were supposed to exist yet, also Applebloom wasn’t even in the flashback so she was probably 1. Yeah the CMC did need new bodies though you were right about that. Keep in mind there was another flashback in “Where The Apple Lies” where Granny Smith looked younger than she did in “The Cutie Mark Chronicles” and Big Mac and Applejack were older, so I’m not sure if you can count anything against Spike here dude, and besides I don’t think size isn’t too crucial to someone’s age. Spike could at the very least is 13-15. Also the MLP Wiki confirms he is 20 years old by the time MLP: IDW 20/20 is released. Yeah canon has a lot of plot holes doesn’t it.
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Yeah, it's crazy how different the world got as soon as she left, like when Granny Smith became one of the town's founders despite Twilight having claimed in "Winter Wrap-up" that it was hundreds of years old. If I remember correctly, Applejack's parents were always supposed to be implied dead, but then Applejack was also supposed to be Granny Smith's GREAT-granddaughter. I would love to read a story set in Faust's Equestria, or maybe I need to get off my lazy ass and write it.
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Wow ya know what, I didn't even think about the CMC when it came to this story, I'm sorry about that. But at the same time I'm really glad that ya both have a nice little conversation going, makes me happy Thank you for taking the time to read this & hoping chapter 2 will come out at some point So please look forward to it
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To be fair size doesn’t exactly define your age, I’m 16 and I’m taller than my mom(not by much but still).
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That's very true & it is hard to work out just how old the ponies really are as they all could be said to be teens(if u go by EG) or young adults(FiM) since they have there own businesses and such. Ya don't really know how fast they grow
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The CMC could be in their teen years, Spike is 20 which was actually confirmed on the MLP Wiki and the Mane 6 are in their young 20s in my opinion. If you ask me Applejack’s parents could’ve just been on some trip in “Cutie Mark Chronicles” and by the time “Where The Apple Lies take place they were let’s say in the spirit realm.
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That's cool, I need to check my wiki more lol I do have a story about the apple family(just a quick one-shot) check it out if ya have time & let me know what ya think if ya do
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The plot of the show after Faust left is Swiss cheese, although, to be fair Princess (not Queen) Celestia was the most enduring and gaping plot hole of the series. It's incredible just how much of the subsequent nonsense could have been justified in the narrative without the immortal winged unicorn princess mythology that had been inadvertantly created by calling Celestia a "princess." Then, when you bring the IDW comics into it, all bets are off. At least the comic version of Nightmare Moon was fairly true to Faust's intentions, but by then it was already at odds with show canon. So, if the comics say that Spike is twenty, I cannot imagine how that would work in either the show's or Faust's lore, but we are so far beyond any coherent logic that there is no point in trying to make sense of it all. It's like MST3K: "it's just a show; I should really just relax."
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And if you go by Faust's show bible the Six are between ten and fifteen human years old (I would say between two and four in horse years). Even Rarity was only an apprentice at Carousel Couture in her vision, and Applejack was second banana to her brother. You go where you want to with them all, and we will enjoy the read.
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Fair enough, but like you said since she left her plot points are no longer valid. But agree to disagree, it's a show so I shouldn't question it too much.
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Nothing is valid anymore since the series finale. We must pick and choose our lore. Right here only jw278's lore matters, and he likes IDW's Spike. I mean, sure Show Spike is younger than Apple Bloom, sucks his thumb, and is clearly significantly smaller than the teenaged dragons, but IDW Spike is arguably a more entertaining leading character than his animated counterpart. This story would not work with Show Spike, anyway.
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Exactly, and I choose to think he's likely older than the CMC. I respect your opinion.
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Wow, I must admit you & Starlight Fan are both making very good comments & I'm really enjoying the conversation ya both having. Tbh I'd join in more but ya both clearly know ya stuff(more than me any ways) lol
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Ok well if I'm being honest I don't know much about IDW's Spike I've mainly gone off the show & this is a story that I came up with lol I just think Spike is older than everyone else thinks & I had honestly forgot about the CMC in this story so didn't think about how the age thing would affect them(guess that was poor writting on my part lol) but I'm really liking the descussion ya having its a great read
I just like Sparity & LOVE Spike(think he is very underused, just my opinion) & so those are the stories I come up with lol if ya like lore and such, please check out Spike's True Secret, after reading all these comments. I'd love to see what ya think of that story & its lore (Although it may not be the greatest story, it was my first & I really liked what I came up with in that lol )
Thank you both for making the comments fun to read for making it so fun I will tell ya that this story is complete, I'm just waiting for it to get edited, so I'm hoping the releases shouldn't take a very long time. So please look forward to it, as I look forward to seeing what you think
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"Ok well if I'm being honest I don't know much about IDW's Spike"
Really? In a few of the comics that he appears in, like the Nightmarity arc, he comes across as a more mature and complex character. It is worth the time to crack some of them open, because they can be fun, especially if you are a Spike fan.
"I guess that was poor writing on my part."
Nah, dude, you can hardly be blamed for not catching a nuance that appeared briefly in the show ten years ago and was then glossed over like it wasn't a thing.
"Thank you both for making the comments fun to read"
Thanks for giving us a free story.
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Well I have indeed read the comics, but like ya say hes not in a lot of them. Ive always thought Spike was more mature that what we see, yes he can be childish but at the same time he has shown himself to be more mature than the girls also. I like to think that the reason he acts so much like a kid at time with the girls is cuz he spent his childhood working by Twis side & nver really had time to be just a kid cuz he was always working. So when he acts like a kid with the girls that's his way of showing how comfortable he is around them, sort of like he trust them all enough to be able to let himself act like a kid & not be judged for it lol
"Thanks for giving us a free story." I'm glad you like it so far, I did try something different for this story so not sure how well it will play out, guess time will tell
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I did it I just found some evidence that proves Spike is older than the CMC, you see my friend Sweetie Belle is shown to be 5 years old in one flashback on the show, and Rarity is a full grown mare, and the CMC are roughly the same age are they not, the proof is in the pudding, he's older I was right and this was after Spike was born. No offense to zx29b.
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I know the episode that you are talking about: "For Whom the Belle Tolls" (often misspelled as "Toils"). Of course, if the Crusaders are all the same age, then--taking "Cutie Mark Chronicles" into account--Apple Bloom's parents must have died about five years before she was born. But how could the Crusaders all be the same age when in "A Perfect Pear" Applejack had a much younger body type than Rarity did just a few years before as depicted in Sweetie Belle's flashback? And we know that Rarity is not significantly older than Applejack, again, because of "Cutie Mark Chrinicles." Add to that the fact that the Crusaders have had the same body types for nine years. The lore is total and complete swiss cheese.
On another tack, any contention that Show Spike is an adult runs into direct contradictions by Meghan McCarthy and M.A. Larson who bluntly said (at 2014 Bronycon if I remember correctly) that Rarity would never return Spike's affections, because she is an adult (Faust may have disagreed on that point) and he is a child. Meghan spoke slowly and with her hands while explaining this in a none-too-sympathetic manner. In fact, the panel had a bit of a laugh about it. ...That's right! It was shortly after McCarthy had announced that there would be more "RarityXSpike" in Season Four without knowing what exactly that "X" meant. She had thought that it was just two characters interacting with one another. It was priceless when she was told what it meant in the fanfic world.
To complicate matters, McCarthy, Larson, etc. were no longer writing for the show when "A Perfect Pear" was made. Lewis and Songco had taken over the narrative, and their Spike quickly sprouted wings and briefly became the Dragon Lord. They would seem to have envisioned an older Spike than their predecessors had. Could their Spike have been closer in age to Rarity? Perhaps, but then they also put a grey streak in Rarity's hair in the finale which would seem to indicate, against all previously established canon, that she was significantly older still. God, the show needed Rob Renzetti.
Edit: And what even is a "year" in magical horse land? Now there's a whole can of worms. Check out how often the seasons changed in the first few seasons of the series and in what patterns.
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Eh, I guess it's up to us to determine it at the end of the day. It is a cartoon I shall age the characters as I please(within reason).
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Yes, and why not? That's what the actual show writers appear to have done. You could even say that, over the course of decades, Spike was hatched numerous times by Celestia's prospective pupils and then put back into the egg again and again, because they only had the one dragon egg. That would actually be a fun backstory, come to think of it. It would explain how he has a "Mommy" that is not Twilight.
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"That's right! It was shortly after McCarthy had announced that there would be more "RarityXSpike" in Season Four without knowing what exactly that "X" meant. She had thought that it was just two characters interacting with one another. It was priceless when she was told what it meant in the fanfic world." I would of loved to of been there to see her face
I also have my own thoughts on "Spike was hatched numerous times by Celestia's prospective pupils and then put back into the egg again and again, because they only had the one dragon egg. That would actually be a fun backstory, come to think of it. It would explain how he has a "Mommy" that is not Twilight."
Though again, I guess for that you would have to read my other story lol I will say I'm really enjoying reading these comments, I find it very interesting & as ya both say. the age canon is a bit messed up lol I mean what about that episode in season 9 (Sparkle's Seven) We see little aj & baby bloom, but no parents. So did they die right after Apple Bloom was bord? if so man that sucks. I did actually do a one-shot of sorts about the Apple family that I think works out quiet well(just my opinion, of course lol) I would be interested in what ya both think about that. To be fair with how much ya both talk about the canon and such I think I would like to hear about what ya think of all my stories, I'm really liking how ya both go into it lol
Any ways, thanks for the fun read guys, I enjoy reading ya comments
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Also I never said I ship Sparity(it’s decent though), I have a different Spike ship I like.
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She made that story up, you can tell from her shifty eyes but still good point.
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Yeah I guess, but it was funny when RD was like, "Wait did that really happen " As for the Sparity, I ship it myself but each to there own. But like ya self I also like other ships, my mian will always be Sparity tho lol
As for MLP ships, Tara Strong and Greg Cipes do a show called the shipitshow & this week will be talking about MLP ships, just in case ya wanna check it out. I know I will, but I won't hold my breath for any talk on Sparity tho
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I'll give some more of your stuff a read. I have been looking for new stories.
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I don't know how they could discuss the topic without at least brushing upon easily the most common ship out there. And, hey, maybe they will bring up the mountain of tongue-in-cheek (and everywhere else) erotic Flurry Heart shipping that appeared upon her arrival! That would be a laugh riot. McFlurryXChrysalis FTW!
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By all means please do, but only if you want to on the plus side I've only got 4 stories
McFlurryXChrysalis Can't say I've seen any of that myself. I know a few stories where they say chrysalis is actually married to shining armor & such but never seen any of that ship lol & yeah it would be nice if they talked about it, though if they did(& most people) just say its a boyhood crush & he'll grow out of it, I always feel bad for Spike when they do that. I mean if he's such a kid why does he have to do so much work lol
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Pretty much all McFlurry shipping is, at least on the sly, done for humorous effect, shipping a baby being inherently silly. I just realized something: how long have Pound Cake and Pumpkin Cake been babies? If they were still babies when they met McFlurry, then no more than one year could have passed between the twins' birth and The Abomination's. Gah! Swiss cheese!
Show Spike really does have it rough. He spent his childhood being raised by a crazy wizard who is also a little girl. He sleeps in a dog bed at her feet and performs menial tasks and acts as a spell test pilot instead of being in school with the Crusaders, etc., and when he is not doing that he is performing menial tasks for his crush who thinks that has "just the cutest chubby widdle cheeks."
Faust had originally had a plan for him that was a bit kinder. Spike was supposed to have spent his early childhood in Queen Celestia's court learning practical magic like his scroll-burping ability, and he was only assigned to help Twilight ("Twinkle," not "Sparkle" back then) when she was sent to Fillydelphia/Ponyville to make friends away from court. He was to be a proper assistent and not so much of a little brother. Some stuff got condensed and other stuff had to be cut when the Nightmare Moon arc was shortened from season-length to just two episodes. Interestingly, the plan had been for him to occasionally stumble upon one of his dragon abilities but not quite understand how they work, since the ponies would have no idea either. Remember that line in "Dragon Quest" about ponies not knowing anything about dragons? That would have been an awesome mechanic to have been in the show, if you ask me. Also, he walked on all fours, and the townsponies were sometimes wary of him due both to his being a dragon and to ponies being skittish creatures in general.
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All that sounds great, I always like the idea of Spike being a hard worker & because of that he never really had a childhood. Which is why he can act childish at times, but only does so once he has got to know the ponies around him, sort of being able to trust them enough to be able to let his gaurd down(if that makes any sense lol) As for "ponies not knowing anything about dragons" I like to use that myself. Its great cuz everytime something comes up about dragons, its like, well we didn't know that lol
"how long have Pound Cake and Pumpkin Cake been babies" Very good point, as far as I can tell, they are babes right up till the very last episode so lol
"being in school with the Crusaders" I like to think that Spike already finished school. I like the idea of him only being a few years younger than Twi & becuz of him being a dragon(different species) he advanced quickly, That's why his her assistant cuz he finished school at the same time as Twi, I also like the ide of him being trained in all sorts, from swordfighting,hoof to hoof combat, the arts & etiquette ect. That's why he holds the title of number one assistant cuz he can do it all. I also like to think that is the reason why Twilight(who was Tia's number one student, then a princess herself) never had any body gaurds growing up & why she has no royal gaurds herself as a princess, cuz Spike's a one drake army(well if ya think about it, her being the element of magic tied together with Spike, she wouldnt need any lol)
I also like the idea of him being Tia's secret adopted son, making him a prince but much like Twi, he doesn't like ponies to know cuz he hates the idea of being treated so differently from others(especially cuz his a dragon & already felt different from others growing up) & likes to do all the work himself, claws on kind of guy lol
Of course these are just my thoughts on Spike, I like to think the reason ya don't see him doing mad fighting in the show is cuz Twi & the girls can handdle it, but at the same time Spike is in the background, ready to make his move if they ever need him to kick some ass lol(I like to think that the reason he never really fights is cuz its like Twi's training & leaves it to her lol) In short Spike is a secret bad ass but hides it well lol afterall, no one knows what he did growing up before going to Ponyville. Yes he was with Twi but what else was he doing? being trained, that's what. He is a one drake swiss army knife. hence the title number one assistant, cuz there's no one better lol It also explains why no one bats an eye at Twilight making Spike her Royal Advisor at the end of the show "You've been at my side for every step of this journey. Knowing I had you to count on gave me the strength I needed to grow and succeed. I wouldn't be here without you." The night needs the day, like the sun needs the moon. there has always been 2 rulers of a equestrai at the same time. Now its Twilight's & Spike's turn lol
Its one of the reasons I like Spike, cuz there are just so many things you can do with him as his past is unknown, sorry guess I went on a bit hope all of that made sense, I tend to get lost in my own txt after a bit
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Straight dawg talk, that version of Spike did a flying canonball into the deep end of the Mary Sue Pool. He can keep up with Twilight academically and is as tough as the established main characters--it would be really difficult for a reader to like a character like that. Come to think of it, that is pretty much exactly what turned so many people off to Sunset Shimmer and Starlight Glimmer despite the fact that the narrative desperately needed someone to fill the old Twilight role after Twilight herself got princessified.
Speaking personally, one of the things that I enjoy about Spike is his status as a much put-upon second banana. His struggle for respect is an uphill climb, and he stumbles along the way. He does not always make the right choices, but he always tries. That's a guy that I can root for and occasionally laugh at. Like with Rocky Balboa, I want Spike to succeed at things precisely because he is always at a disadvantage. The world loves an underdog.
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All fair points, I like an underdog myself. Though the way I explained it, you could say his OP but at the same time, that doesn't mean he hasn't stuggled & had to clim his way up. I wouldn't say he could keep up Twilight academically, just that he isn't stupid & can hold his own. to steal a post I read-
"There's this thing... where you consider yourself inferior to others, you know? It just sort of happens, for whatever reason it happens to happen.
But the thing is... when you're at level X, you surround yourself with others around level X. If you're a hero, your social circle typically consists of other heroes... So it's not like you can look at your fellow being and realise "... actually yeah, they probably wouldn't have been able to pull it off, not by a long shot" -- much more likely, you're the weakest of the group (despite being leaps and bounds beyond the average being).
What you then have to realise is exactly how much beyond the average being your social circle is. I mean, I may be the weakest member of the Strongest Men Alive group, but just being in this group and sorta keeping up with other members proves how insanely strong I probably am otherwise, right?"
There are just so many things you can do with Spike, that's one of the reasons I like to write about him. Cuz the show didn't really touch on his past or where he came from, it leaves it open to play with. One of the upsides to the show underusing him, I think
As always thanks for the comments
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True 'nuff. The Six went from "apprentice pastry chef in a small town sweets shop" to "Super Saiyan who fights gods" in just four seasons, so keeping up with that would require a few power-ups. Come to think of it, I wonder why pretty much nobody--show creators or fans--did anything with Rainbow Power after it appeared... you know, apart from it being utterly ludicrous. It's like everyone just silently and universally agreed to never speak of it again. I could see late-series Rainbow Dash using Rainbow Power to cook a burrito, because her microwave is just way too slow or Rarity using it to instantly grow her hair out after getting a regrettable manecut.
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Yeah seeing Twilight go Super Saiyan was funny as hell "wonder why pretty much nobody--show creators or fans--did anything with Rainbow Power after it appeared... you know, apart from it being utterly ludicrous. It's like everyone just silently and universally agreed to never speak of it again" Its cuz everyone knew hasbro messed up with that one & I could see Rarity doing that
I like where this is going.
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Glad to hear, the story its self is finished. I am just waiting for it to be edited, so I hope you like where it goes lol
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I'm sure i will.