I just can't hold it anymore: you keep calling rifle just Nagant which is ignorant at least and insulting at most. "Mosin-Nagant" rifle is actually just "Mosin" in Russia (country that ordered, produced and used that rifle) and, as long as I know, that "-Nagant" part, that is used in west, came just from surname bearer's attempts of gathering attention because actual rifle have minimal amount of parts influenced by his design. There were, however, weapon called just "Nagant", but that was revolver.
2808068 Of course it wasn't its official title, but I digress titles are used and changed much like with the AK47 it is called the Kalashnikov or Kalash by many soldiers it is is by no means its full name or real name, they're nick names given to them by the troops, like the blooper, the burp gun, Spandau, plumber's Nightmare, gimpy. Ect
2809022 ...Actually there never was weapon called "AK47" either, and this itself is a nickname.
But I was talking about the fact that Nagant's input into rifle was miserable and I never saw his surename only as this rifle name. And even more, this story is written from POV of Soviet soldier, who was issued "Mosin's 3-line rifle", without any "Nagant" at all. It was "Mosinka" or 3-liner.
2810322 AK-47 was the Avtomat Kalashnikov's designated and aconymized name, much like the Ar-15, Su-27, Su-25, Mi-24, Mi-28, UH-1, Me-109, the STG-44 and so on. And your urge to be completely and utterly politically correct doesn't give any more justice to the fact that people indefinitely understand what the rifle is, so giving them their full name is redundant and serves little purpose other than complaining just to complain.
2815170 Nope. First AK was officially named just AK, numberless, not AK-47.
It's not about political correctness, it's about calling things by names they never wore. AK being called AK-47 is easily explainable, but Mosin's 3-liner being called just "Nagant" - not. Here was first place I saw to do so.
2816796 Using 'Nagant' is extremely easy to explain as a part of the rifles name and the designer's name is included Captain Sergei Mosin, Léon Nagant. Just like calling the AK-47 a Kalashnikov it's no different.
2821589 No, because even you understood what it meant and using excessive and prolonged names where a shortened one can be use and is quicker, using anything long that is redundant when you have shorter substitutes as long as everyone can understand. You understand what he was talking about the exact rifle and the other text coheres to how he describes it, other than you I haven't see any other people confused with the name it was given. Don't complain just because you personally think the technicality used for the rifle is not proper its pointless and borderline irrelevant.
2825736 Now that was strange. Where I said that it should be called only by full name? What I said, is that while shortening re removed wrong part, and I complain about it.
And, "Mosin" is shorter that "Nagant", so it's you, if anyone, suggest a longer name.
I'll take frequent, short hits.
I NEED MY FIX.
Also, loving how this isn't a romanticized or 'woe is me' portrayal of a soldier.
Can't wait for more , just dont mess up the interactions with ponies, most story's go downhill from there. Good luck.
I just can't hold it anymore: you keep calling rifle just Nagant which is ignorant at least and insulting at most. "Mosin-Nagant" rifle is actually just "Mosin" in Russia (country that ordered, produced and used that rifle) and, as long as I know, that "-Nagant" part, that is used in west, came just from surname bearer's attempts of gathering attention because actual rifle have minimal amount of parts influenced by his design. There were, however, weapon called just "Nagant", but that was revolver.
2781287 It would be okay as long as he would follow up Nagant with rifle, or 'Nagant's Rifle' but that sorta sounds queer.
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It was more about the fact that there is no "Nagant Rifle" in first place.
2808068 Of course it wasn't its official title, but I digress titles are used and changed much like with the AK47 it is called the Kalashnikov or Kalash by many soldiers it is is by no means its full name or real name, they're nick names given to them by the troops, like the blooper, the burp gun, Spandau, plumber's Nightmare, gimpy. Ect
2809022
...Actually there never was weapon called "AK47" either, and this itself is a nickname.
But I was talking about the fact that Nagant's input into rifle was miserable and I never saw his surename only as this rifle name. And even more, this story is written from POV of Soviet soldier, who was issued "Mosin's 3-line rifle", without any "Nagant" at all. It was "Mosinka" or 3-liner.
2810322 AK-47 was the Avtomat Kalashnikov's designated and aconymized name, much like the Ar-15, Su-27, Su-25, Mi-24, Mi-28, UH-1, Me-109, the STG-44 and so on. And your urge to be completely and utterly politically correct doesn't give any more justice to the fact that people indefinitely understand what the rifle is, so giving them their full name is redundant and serves little purpose other than complaining just to complain.
2815170
Nope. First AK was officially named just AK, numberless, not AK-47.
It's not about political correctness, it's about calling things by names they never wore. AK being called AK-47 is easily explainable, but Mosin's 3-liner being called just "Nagant" - not. Here was first place I saw to do so.
2816796 Using 'Nagant' is extremely easy to explain as a part of the rifles name and the designer's name is included Captain Sergei Mosin, Léon Nagant. Just like calling the AK-47 a Kalashnikov it's no different.
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Yeah, 1 small part compared to whole other rifle, ignoring even original name. So, in your example, it would be like calling AK "Bulkin".
2821589 No, because even you understood what it meant and using excessive and prolonged names where a shortened one can be use and is quicker, using anything long that is redundant when you have shorter substitutes as long as everyone can understand. You understand what he was talking about the exact rifle and the other text coheres to how he describes it, other than you I haven't see any other people confused with the name it was given. Don't complain just because you personally think the technicality used for the rifle is not proper its pointless and borderline irrelevant.
2825736
Now that was strange. Where I said that it should be called only by full name? What I said, is that while shortening re removed wrong part, and I complain about it.
And, "Mosin" is shorter that "Nagant", so it's you, if anyone, suggest a longer name.