Sephiroth · 1:53pm Dec 13th, 2020
So, I have a problem with the sequel to A Sweetie Dreamland, and this problem is named Sephiroth.
I haven't played FF7, but I know enough to know that I won't really be able to use Sephiroth during the events of the game.
Spoiler!
Sephiroth, the real Sephiroth, passes the majority of the game inside a cocoon in the North Cave from which he controls his clones to lead Cloud and co to give him the Black Materia. Then, once he gets it, he invokes Meteor and moves to the core of Gaia (the planet) where he mutates into his Bizzaro Sephiroth form for the final battle. He then turns into Safer Sephiroth before being killed.
Then come the events of Advent Children. Sephiroth manages to come back to life only to be almost immediately killed by Cloud again after a fight. The problem is that I can't use this Sephiroth because he must die for Aerith to heal the plague he has caused and stop people from dying.
So this leaves me with only one solution: Sweetie Belle will come some time after the events of Advent Children, and Sephiroth will somehow come back to life again. The problem is that I have no idea how. I don't think that the method he used in Advent Children will work again. 
So, any FF7 fans out there that could give me an idea?
Spoiler alert:
Sephiroth died 5 years prior to FF7's starting point. Cloud and co were fighting JENOVA the entire time. If you don't know who JENOVA is, then you have a lot of homework to do.
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It's actually both Sephiroth and JENOVA. From what I read, Sephiroth managed to overpower JENOVA's mind during their time in the Lifestream after his defeat to Zack, using her to create the clones and control Cloud with her cells to give him the Black Materia. Speaking of, do the cells in Cloud work again? Could Sephiroth still control him if he wanted?
Looks like you'll have to spend enough time in FF7 land to genuinely derail the plot. The remake also seems to have chosen this route, so...
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Zach did not defeat Sephiroth: Cloud did.
Cloud's 'memories' at the start of the story are actually Zach's.
5414663
Easy, they miss some jenrova cells, and sepheroth regenerated
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This doesn't change the problem of the real Sephiroth being stuck in a cocoon, forced to let clones do the work for him. Like I said, if I want to use Sephiroth more than just him being a final fight, I will have to bring him back to life some time after the events of Advent Children.
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I had totally forgotten that it was Cloud who had sent Sephiroth falling into the mako with the head of JENOVA. I played Crisis Core a very long time ago, and I remember perfectly well how the fight against him was hell, but not what happened after.
5414678
You could use the excuse that it is the Sephiroth from the Arena in KH2, that Sora defeated, and say that because of the battle between Void and Sweetie, the Sephiroth from the Arena escaped, therefore he is now a threat. That is just a suggestion, but I' sure you could expand upon it.
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Sephiroth will still need a body to control, like the guy he used in Advent Children. That won't be easy to find one.
Or I could try to find a way to get the spirit of Sephiroth out of the lifestream and get him a real body, but there too, I don't know how it could be done.
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I would rather avoid entering Kingdom Hearts territory if I can. That universe is a mindf***.
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Unless you derail things even earlier, all the way back in Crisis Core. Might actually be a smart move if you don't know much about FF7.
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Not what I meant, Jenrova(sepheroth) is jenrova, who does not die until all of the cells are gone, his body can be regenerated from jenrova cells that they missed.
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This could work, but then, it wouldn't be the same Sephiroth anymore, and Cloud wouldn't gain the Buster Sword because Zack would certainly still be alive. Sephiroth gained the ability to use magic without materia after falling into the lifestream, and it's also there that he merged with JENOVA, becoming pretty much immortal as long as he had enough will to not have his consciousness diluted in the lifestream.
FF7's timeline is really problematic...
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But after, the cells need to be placed in a new body, I think.
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Said who, also the cells they missed where probably already in a body
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Nono. In Advent Children, Kadaj recovers cells from JENOVA and absorbs them, resulting in him being taken over by Sephiroth who then uses his body like he used the clones in FF7 to fight Cloud and attempt to reach his goal. The cells by themselves aren't enough for Sephiroth to return.
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But enough in one place?
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I don't think so. Shinra recovered the head of JENOVA, and yet, Sephiroth hadn't been able to use it by itself to come back. He needed one of these... incarnations of his will to absorb the cells for him.
5414774
If he is dead already and many many cells in one place and one person or SOLDIER?
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Maybe. It isn't precised if a normal person absorbing cells of JENOVA would count. Rest to find someone crazy enough to absorb the cells with the knowledge of what they do.
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Do they have to be from in universe?
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I don't know. That whole lifestream thing creates many questions.
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I mean Put the person who cost it be from equestria or something
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Yes, but because of the lifestream, I don't know if someone out of the FF7-verse could use the JENOVA cells to be controlled by Sephiroth, with him being stuck in it and beings out of the universe not being linked to it.
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I’m pretty sure quite a few characters could literally hack the lifestream Ghosts for an example maybe a bunch of Magikoopa or even an old villain
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Maybe.
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Did these ideas help?
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A little. I have an idea of how I will proceed.
I may not have able to give ideas how Sephiroth will be resurrected, but I could at least provide dialogue on how they will play out.
(Sephiroth appears through a portal in the sky slowly descending towards the ground landing on the soft dirt)
Sephitoth: Finally..... Now that I have been reborn, This world will soon end by my own hands.
Sweetie Belle: No you won't. (She appears) You've been giving Cloud a very rough time stopping you at every attempt.
Sephitoth: Oh? You are quite a unique specimen. Who are you? (He takes his sword towards Sweeties face)
Sweetie Belle: I'm Sweetie Belle. And I would appreciate it if you don't destroy the world if you please? (She smiles innocently) Otherwise, I'll have to punish you.
Sephiroth: I see, such power is hidden deep inside within you. I wonder if you'll unleash it, once I defeat you. (battle starts)
It might not be much but what do you think?
Hey, Lucar what is sweetie’s counter for raw speed
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I don't think it's how it will happen, but it's nice!
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She can boost her own speed, or slow time (or even stop it). She can also determine the trajectory of the quick guy and put an obstacle on their path to stop them (or simply punch them). She has many possibility.
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Good point
some combat data for Sephiroth just in case you need it
He promised comeback somehow at the end!
considering that somehow he makes apparitions in other games like Kingdom Hearts only enhance that.
Also, the fact that in the remake he is trying to change the future implies that he somehow came back in time in some time after his own defeat.
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Thanks.