Asking for some help over A Lost Sunset · 3:18am May 9th, 2017
Hi everypony,
I was looking back at my chapters for this story and remembered why I'm still stuck. You see, with the story right now, I'm trying to figure out how I want Sunset and Celestia to make up. You know, after the whole lying to her and trying to hide who she is after the Siren incident.
But...I can't figure it out! I wanted to do a birthday chapter for Celestia or...some kind of intervention/talk with her, I don't know. I can't figure out what I should do.
So...I'm asking for ideas. This isn't like my other long story, The Rainboom Thieves where I know where I want to go, I just can't write the characters right. Here, I need an idea so I can end this chapter, this little arc so Sunset and Celestia are on good terms and move on!
So...any ideas my readers? Please give me something, I need help!
Also, sorry for how long this is taking. I'm not good with asking for help with my stories.
some times the best solution is keep it simple just an apology and the 2 talking over tea or something
Maybe have Sunset say she got attacked in the street and was afraid to admit it out of fear
4525720 I don't want it to be a lie. I want Celestia to acknowledge she can't dig into Sunset's secret. I probably should have stated that, sorry.
4525712 Hmmm...I've been trying to figure out that conversation if it came to that. Problem is, Sunset is written in this story in a way where she's not really clever. She's smart academically, but not in speaking. After all, the amnesia has limited her thought process at times. That and I'm just not sure how I would lead up to them talking. Any ideas on how Sunset would get Celestia alone to talk and make it unique?
4525728 If you don't want it to be a lie then really the best thing for Sunset is to say what actually happened and tell Celestia about her journal in the process.
4525769 Hmm...I'm not sure. Darn, that's why this is so hard. I'm someone who doesn't mind status quo as long as it works...but its half and half with this story. Shoot...I'm not sure. Your suggestion does make sense...hmm...this is why I'm having writer's block problems.
4525779 Ine thing that's been on my mind is when the sirens ordered others to capture Sunset, it probably would've been caught by the security cameras at the hotel. If that is the case I'd think Celestia might end up finding that out.
4525787 Not exactly. The Sirens are currently going to be...out of the story. At least for now. They will return, just when things are in the right position and time.
Try to make it realistic. This might give you an idea of how to go along with it. This is from one of my stories on here.
Applejack and Peanut Butter walk to a dark hallway on the other side of the school. Peanut Butter places his bag on the floor and stands in front of a very angry Applejack with her arms crossed. He stays silent as looks away from her too ashamed to even look at her. She sighs before speaking.
"This is how it's gonna go, I talk and you listen. Once I say ah'm done then you talk. Am I crystal clear?" Applejack says.
He nods not saying a word expecting her worst.
"Outta all the stupid things you did back then you thought running away was the best option? Did ya ever think how your little stunt could have hurt me and Rarity back then? You mightah not been in the right mindset at the time. But my god that was fucking stupid! I was destroyed after ya ran off ta god knows where. Then five years later ya suddenly pop outta nowhere back here. Haven't ya done enough ta me five years ago? Now ya have to come back here thinkin' that we were just gonna get along again like then? Sorry ta break it to ya P.B. that's not how life works. I am mad at ya and I will be for a very long time! Cause right now we ain't friends you left that five years ago. So you have a choice here P.B. You can either stay here and actually fix what you broke and show me ya wanna repair that bridge you burned or you can pick up your bag and leave again and do more damage though I bet you have done plenty of that in those five years ya left us. So what is it gonna be?"
Peanut Butter stays silent and falls to his knees speechless. Applejack glares at him.
"So ya really want to make things better after all."
Peanut Butter gets up and is met with a hard pain in his gut and sees Applejack's fist against his chest.
"That's fer runnin' away!"
He stands straight again and is met with a slap to his face by Applejack.
"That's fer hurtin' me and Rarity."
He braces for another hit when he is met with an embrace of a hug.
"That's fer coming back and stayin' fer good."
He feels tears rolling down his face as he returns the hug.
"I'm so sorry A.J.." Peanut Butter says softly as he cries.
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Notice how Applejack went from anger to forgiveness? In your case it should be subtle. But hopefully it helps.
4525812 Well...I'm sorry but I can't use this method. Celestia wouldn't hit Sunset. If she did, that would technically be abuse and this is rated 'Everyone'. I can't do that.
4525814 I'm not saying you have to. What I mean is she would be angry with Sunset. Show that emotion. Show that she is not happy. Then, lead into whatever other emotion you feel fit.
4525828 Oh...yeah, that was part of the plan. Hmmm...if I use anger, I have to switch the order of events I'm doing since I wanted Sunset to start the confrontation. Umm...okay. I'll figure this out. Eventually.
4525733 just have celestia catch sunset up late at night feeling guilty over it all and sunset opens up
look all your readers know you wrote your self into a bit of a corner we will all except a resolution that is not up to your standard par we just want the story to resume and hope you have learned from this experince
4525864 Hmmm...that is true. I could do that. Though I will admit, I am a slow learner.
4525868 just dont try to do drama in your story that is ment to be more about heart warming how about that
4525924 Eh, true. Though drama is more fun when your characters go overboard with it. I'll try to get things going...hopefully.
Heya buddy! Might I recommend an idea? Perhaps you can have Sunset make a slip during breakfast or something, which causes Celestial to get suspicious. She gets even more so when she hears Sunset having a nightmare and feeling guilty. So, she takes the two out to lunch and eventually the two make up! Whaddaya think?
4526033 That's actually really good...but what would she slip? Her origin or what happened with the Sirens?
4526039 More likely the Sirens, but maybe part of her origins too.
4526043 Hmm...that could work. Thanks.
4526048 No problem buddy!
What I get from Celestia is that she does not know how to care for a teenager full-time. She works with them, yes, but having to deal with the emotions of one can be hard. I would love to see her get advice on how to deal with the situation (maybe from Candance who has taken care of Twilight a lot or a teacher at the school). Especially since the point that most parents learn to understand is that some things are meant to stay a secret and learning to trust your child is the most important thing. I was also thinking that because in a way, Celestia had been her mom for a long time. Even in the pony world, Celestia took care of her (even though neither fully know that). I don't know though, do what you think is right.
4526211 That's actually a really really good point. Thank you. Can't believe I didn't think of that. That will help.
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Oh, I was just thinking about it... Yay!
4526241 Yeah. Thank you.
4525982 yes drama can be good but it was out of place in this story
4526503 I'll figure it out. I'm currently stuck with a huge test at the end of this week, so I'm doing that first before getting this going.
Her the following chapter prune to do that celestia it proves to be disappointed what I spend in the trip
I have some ideas for some chapters and of which it is that sunset he asks the princess him on his parents (thing that it might have spoken already) and that him reveals that it is orphan (already is for abandon in the street or position in an orphanage) depending to what you choose I you can strips some ideas, and then that sunset has nightmare making worry the human celestia.
Another idea is that as it happens the time celestia begins to (maternal love) will endear with sunset and it does not know if confersarse to sunset
4551874 ? I'm having a hard time reading your comment. Could you explain it in a simpler way, I don't know what you're saying.
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I have 3 ideas. 1) in a next chapter celestia still this annoyed with sunset for escaparce of the hotel
2)Sunset he asks the princess him on his parents, she tells him that she was living in them be quiet without parents, sunset evil takes it and gets depressed and starts having nightmare in the nights on his past, director celestia realizes and tries that sunset it tells him that it happens to him
3)directora celestia empieza a considerar a sunset como a una hija e intenta pasar mas tiempo con ella ya sea yendo de compra o visitando algún lugar
4552013 Okay. I get the first one but...the second one involves her becoming a him and becoming evil? I'm not having Sunset become evil in this story. I also can't read Spanish.
4552021 It is not precisely in order that it becomes wicked, is a doubt that him arises due to an event of the school, for example meeting of the parents where the teachers and the parents of the pupils meet and sunset one agrees that I never ask for his parents to twilight or to the princess celestia
4552036 I'm going to decline. I don't think I can follow your thought process and one of my rules for this story is that Sunset never becomes truly evil/wicked. She does have hints of her bad self, but never fully going there.
4552041 Oks there is no problem
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And the third idea that seemed to you?
4552060 I can't read it. I don't know Spanish.
4552075 I sit it I did not realize;-P
Director celestia starts considering to sunset as to a daughter and tries to happen mas time with her already be going of purchase or visiting some place
4552104 Er...I'm doing something like that, but nothing completely there. Celestia won't fully have her become a daughter, but it kinda goes there. Right now, that's up for debate.