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  • 238 weeks
    History of Fraud Within the MLP Fandom

    (Foul Language)

    While I am aware that a huge chunk of people despise facts, the truth and/or irrefutable evidence in case it hurts their feelings: Here we go again.


    For no particular reason, I just feel like covering the MLP fandom's absolutely abysmal statistics in this regard.

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  • 372 weeks
    Project Horizons Revised Edition Status

    Right, so have gotten the occasional prod about this, and just to be clear: I really have no idea if I'll ever finish it. Yes, I am aware Somber just threw PH in a ditch, went "Close enough!" and ran away. (Not that I can really blame them) Not bothering to fix any of the blatant mistakes and/or errors on it. And yes, you have told me my version was vastly superior to the original. (once I cut

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  • 391 weeks
    MLP 18+ Folio Survey Results

    Well, after a month of polling, I decided that should be decent enough replies. Less than 100, so not hitting a nice sweet spot. But ah well. I’ve rounded up the percentage points to whole 5′s as to not flop all over the place with ,28 or what have you. (This survey only focuses on the "major" folio releases, not the small, indie ones)

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  • 418 weeks
    Proof is Irrelevant


    (Ranty ramble incoming x3 Foul language warning.)



    Just a late ass post before bed xP

    Anyhow, over all my years in this fandom. I've come to realized that proof, most the time, is utterly worthless.

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  • 434 weeks
    Regarding Project Horizon Revision

    Right, so I got some replies on the prior one. And what most people seem to ask for so far, is that I just focus on what I apparently "un-fucked" in the original story. Mainly the 18+ content. (though tbh, I think some people are a bit harsh on it. Yes, most of it was bad, but it wasn't THAT awful. I mean yes, many of them are almost as bad as how K-Kat fucked up Fallout Equestria with the two

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Jan
29th
2015

Fallout Equestria: Project Horizon - Revamped · 12:56am Jan 29th, 2015

And on a brighter note than self-entitled bigots: (prior journal) Are you a fan of PH, but found the original a little "lacking" per se?
If that lacking was in terms of a more "everyone's fucked up" wasteland, where the mares aren't (sexual) moral saints with a code of honor to not rape or whatnot, I might have something for you.

I found out that Project Horizons had some inconsistencies, and apparently unintended one sided content here and there. And after I (or rather, a friend for me) talked about it with Somber they gave me permission to do my own edits since they didn't have time in the official release, along with wanting to have said official release as a memento that "they can do better". I've begun to revise this widely popular fic. Currently lacking proofreading, so I will admit: It's not as crisp in that area as it could be. But so far the response have been positive for breathing more life into prior stale gender roles in the fic. But also some quirked brows on some sloppy out occasionally out of place extra edits. Also, with the habit of being a clop writing innovator, (and then I just mean in clop. And not in any way I'm better at it, I just happen to have a knack for inventing, coming up with or revising stuff :P) this fic doesn't wait around 20-33 chapters to dare getting graphical xD

It's not porn by any means, but it fleshes out on the already adult parts of PH. And to those that wonder: Yes, all the prior (according to the forums) ~eh actual "clop" scenes will be touched up upon.
Another major change is that I'm swapping from movie zombies to fallout ghouls. But yeah, I guess if you like PH, and my style, or just want a little different take, then you could give it a look.
Still, 99 % credit of this is still Sombers, I could not have gotten the chance to do this without their permission, or them overall as they wrote this.
I would honestly have liked to fix the same major flaw in FoE as well, but Kkat turns out be a bit more of a hermit. (and if rumors are to be believed, it'd also cramp their fetish...)

There's more info in the "link" below:
Look for the tumblr "Dewflower", and search it for "Project Horizon" and you should find the link to them.
Chapters marked with "(R)" behind them have been revised.

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2754658 Didn't think it was that unclear... did I formulate it badly, or you just confused on what's going on?
Basically: The original PH had exclusively male rapists. And female prostitutes and rape victims. (with the exclusion of one... "breed" but those gets disposed of quickly)

My revision evens that out. Making sure the wasteland has rapists of both genders.

2754694
... This makes me irrationally angry.

2754694
So... Do you take the Legend of Zelda team not taking out bugs other than what breaks the game and not changing anything between re-releases as express permission to revise as you see fit?
This is a terrible idea and you're not going to be very popular for it.

2754792 How so?
And who so? Talked to Somber about it, and they admit to there being errors in it, mainly as they have no idea how to portray it, so they ended up coping out at every turn possible, just focusing on the male parts. And now it was "too late for them to fix it". Granted, while they gave me open permission to do as I saw fit, but they did say that they wouldn't be interested in reading it. And would keep their original, as it will remind them how they can do better.

If the Legend of zelda team went "hey, we heard you liked our game, but our hands are tied tampering with the game as we need to work on other projects, what would you say about going through and polishing out the minor bugs in the game?" and I actually knew shit about game design, then yes there's a chance I'd agree to help them.

As said: So far aside from my grammar fuck ups, people have enjoyed most of the minor fixes and more rounded out "NPC's"

2754812
This is just not an okay thing.

This is insanity!

I've got a gun and I am not afraid to use it!!

2754824 In what way exactly?
Didn't get any protests from the official PH crew or the editorial staff. (only one complaint that due to PH being the only fic on that site allowed to contain graphic smut, I had to link to it elsewhere. And I did, on my tumblr some months back)


2754886 To cope above: In what way?

2754908 Wouldn't that be if I claimed it as my own work?
Somber has a dozen proofreaders, are their edits and suggestions plagiarism too?
I was thrown a "whatever, have fun" bone.

I know you can't even collab on this site without it being marked for plagiarism, but still.
After a mention however, I did re-do this journal post, as someone pointed out a few things I did sloppily, and I agreed to that.

2754926
Look. We've had issues with this in the past where an artist decided he'd draw an image of Deus raping Littlepip.
By which I'm saying, I know this is a crass fame-grab using the coattails of a more popular author.
Somber being someone I consider a friend, I won't sit by and let this stand.

Eldorado
Moderator

2754926 You're not planning on posting this story here, are you? An edited version of someone else's story is definitely not okay.

And keep the NSFW stuff out of anything you decide to link to from here. I don't know if there's any sex in what you've got done already, but if so you need to get rid of it or take down the link.

2755073
He linked the fic he's plagiarizing in its entirety, which features sex in its first chapter.

2754946 Sounds like pretty standard generic cookie cutter shovelware,

Crass fame grab? Seriously, we're not even in the same genre of fiction...
And you won't sit by and let Somber decide what he does, and gives permission for others to do with his work?
While I can see your worry, you don't seem to be listening at all to what I saying. I am not doing a massive "Muhaha! I did this fic *monocle twirl*" or what have you. I got written, explicit permission by Somber themselves to do it. That you're coming in and demanding that Somber isn't allowed to do what they want with their work because you say so, is imo almost more insulting than possible "plagiarism"


2755073 Of course not. Like said above: I know collabs are forbidden to be posted on this site on more than one account.

And well, yes and no. It's blatantly stated it's sex, but it's not on clop level. And it's allowed to be featured on Equestria Daily. But that said, it did wait until it had been accepted to include more graphic scenes. But if implied sex is still to nsfw, I can change that. Did you allow links to a sfw site with links to the "nsfw"?

Eldorado
Moderator

2755721 uh, no. Collabs are 110% fine. I don't recall one instance where we rejected a clear collab for plagiarism. I have no idea what you're referring to with that point.

The problem is you're not writing a collab. Like, at all. A fan-edited version of an existing story, even with permission, isn't okay to post here. You didn't write or have any creative say in the construction of the original. You are not, by any stretch of the imagination, writing a collab.

The sex in the first chapter is really borderline. If you're going to go even a millimeter further with sex scenes in later chapters, it's probably going to be too much to link to from here.

2755721
See, the amount of permission you've been given has varied throughout this post. In either case, the folks at #falloutequestria have been notified. They also think this is bullshit, and they're going to do what they can do on their end.
It's a blatant fame grab. If it wasn't, you wouldn't try to do the same thing web forgers use to seem more legit and change the header. You took the original header and added a sketchy "Revamped" to the name and your own shitty paragraph to it.

So end result is, you're not going to be able to redirect people to Googledocs from here, you can't post it here, it's not getting added to the postings for fallout-equestria.net/com, and apparently this is discussion is trending. You're not going to get the exposure from this that you wanted.
2755764
In case you're unfamiliar, it's an extremely graphic fic that would be rated mature on this site. Which I seem to remember there being something about.

Eldorado
Moderator

2755927 If it'd be rated Mature here, then it's probably going to present a problem. There's mentions of clop scenes in this pitch, there's everything short of a clop scene in the first chapter, and the whole point seems to be to further sexualize an already sexual story (at least it seems heavily sexual in nature, going off a brief glance at its Wiki page and TVtropes). I'm not sure how this can expect to continue without breaking our rule against linking to offsite NSFW.

2755970
It features graphic drug use, gore / violence, and depictions of rape and general sex.
One of the first chapters depicts a small child being torn in half.
It would definitely be rated "mature" here.

2755764 Could rummaged through PM's, can't recall the admin, but I basically meant that only one author is allowed to post the story. Not both. As only one copy of the story is allowed on the site at any given time. I've done a collab, and those were the instructions given to me. Only one version of any fic at any time. Had to take down a genderbent version of a fic due to that. Or rather, it was declined in moderation, as the "same" fic already existed.

And I have no intention of posting it here. Or did you just refer to blog posts as well?

And it doesn't really go beyond that graphically, but it does ramp up in "severity"... so I guess that is too much for a blog then... hm; as said: Is it still chill to link to somewhere that has the link? Recall "second hand linking" was okay before at least. Tbh, I actually forgot a bit what the reformed nsfw rules included... will give them another glance. While doing that, I'll leave this post with: I'm guessing I should either link to a place that itself links to it? Or should I just leave instructions of how to search for it?


2755927 Okay, seriously. Calm your tits. For the first: stop lying, running around in circle screaming while hurling shit/slander around. You don't even seem to be reading much of what I say. If you actually did give two fucks, you'd already have this solved by asking Somber "Hey, does Kattlarv/Satch have permission to make a revised PH as long as they keep it separate from the regular PH?"
The only one after a blatant fame grab here is you, trying to make yourself important and brag about being Somber's... pet or something. White knigthing. Call it what you may. Atop that, they never even asked for you to interfere. But no, you just took shit into your own hands, assumed everything, made up stuff to suit you, then just ran with it, and you're still adding on more bs, This seems like nothing more than you wanting to make yourself seem important, and how you know all these people and whatnot. Otherwise you wouldn't be namedropping everything along with claiming everyone agree's with you.

As said, if you actually WERE Sombers friend, this would already be solved. You if anyone should know Somber is not a fan of drama, hissy fits or excessive white knighting. This just seems to be about you, not Somber. As for the header, what pray tell should I have done with it? Deleted Sombers, and everyone else's name? Painted it over? Made it more obvious that I totally was going to claim to having written the entire thing all by myself? Which is already so apparent by how I removed the original author and slapped my own name atop EVERYTHING else in size 72. As for posting it on this blog, I had forgot how much the nsfw posting rules has changed since I last did a blog, as they removed the tag for it. Simply posted it here as I've done a couple ",5" chapters for PH, that has been overall positively viewed for fleshing out chars and roles. If it can't be linked from here, then fine, I'll just change it to where they can search to find it, if interested. And I've already gotten the exposure from this. It's been viewed, green-lit and approved over on Cloudsville, met with mixed responses. And as said: Over on CV, it needs a link to a link thread, (separate from original as requested) as PH is the only fic there that gets an exception of linking to graphic porn and violence.

2756585
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I haven't made up anything. You're the one whose story keeps changing, and is now screaming like a child because you're being reprimanded for wrongdoing. People who know him far better than you or I have stated this doesn't sound like something Somber would do, and he is being asked about this whole thing. But you yourself said earlier that he didn't give express permission. Just that you said that you wanted to do it, he said he wasn't going to do it.

Eldorado
Moderator

2756585

Could rummaged through PM's, can't recall the admin, but I basically meant that only one author is allowed to post the story. Not both.

Correct. However, referring to this rule as "collabs aren't allowed" is an oversimplification about as severe as being told you can't plagiarize My Little Dashie and then quoting the rule later as not being allowed to write stories about Rainbow Dash.

Also, you're not even writing a collab anyway, so the whole point is moot.

should I just leave instructions of how to search for it?

Probably this. With the plagiarism and now the NSFW stuff, this is really something that shouldn't be directly linked through this site at all. If the original authors are truly as supportive of your efforts as you claim, then surely they can get enough word out that you don't need to advertise here anyway.

2756705 If you scroll up, you can see that I specified that collabs weren't allowed to be posted on more than one account so... :P
And that's a bit of a stretch tbh...

And no, but I have written them, thrice in fact, so I am well familiar with what goes and what doesn't for collabs xP

Allright. Will do that then.
And well, this IS the site I am mainly known for being an author, and I've written well received spin-offs/",5"'s of PH.
I just thought said people might want to know I was planning on incorporating that type of fleshing out into PH? Only other site this is known on is Cloudsville. Not that far fetched to think of advertising here going with the number of PH related work, and followers I got? Considering they are here, not at Cloudsville?

2756611 Yes, that surely makes a solid proof to all the claims and facts you're spewing out. Now, if you can stop trying to accuse me of everything you keep doing. And gj, you've fucked Somber over by slapping them in the face with unnecessary drama. For someone that knows them so well, you must know how much they love stress and being interrogated. Again: why are you being such a dick to Somber? You refuse to solve it calmly and throw up a shitstorm just because you're butthurt over that I actually clarified my initial post you are whining about being unclear. Atop apparently not even reading it, just picking out the pieces you needed to start a drama over... okay, seriously, are you a Somber hater? As this is exactly the bs someone like that would pull in order to torment them.

Either case, cut this bs out before I report you for trolling/whatever. Won't let another threat get derailed because someone refuses to read or stop to think for ten seconds. The text is much more clear now about the actual permission. Sides, the old, meh version did even include that they gave explicit permission. Albeit in a very "eh, if that'll make you happy" manner. I never claimed they were all "OH BOY! GOLLY GEE! I AM SO HONORED YOU PICKED TO HELP LITTLE OL' ME!". They gave permission, but don't care much for it. They won't read it, and as long as I make sure to separate it from the original, no fucks are given.

2756760
>well-recieved
So that's how "1.5:1" like:dislike ratio stories are interpreted now?
2756782
No, because we at #falloutequestria know how to comport ourselves like adults.
I consider Somber a friend. The only "drama" he'll get "thrown in his face" is asking if he EXPLICITLY told you to do the thing. Which you said he did not. And then as far as he's concerned, drama's over, and we'll take care of the rest.
I'm not going to rest until I see this travesty of a project shut down.

Eldorado
Moderator

2756782

Either case, cut this bs out before I report you for trolling/whatever.

I'd really appreciate it if you didn't make patently empty threats on my behalf, while I'm actively responding in the same thread. Literally all of these comments have been on-topic and directly related to the subject matter at hand. Disagreeing with someone is not grounds for a spam report.

2756817 41/7, 34/8, yeah, that's about what I'd call generally well received. Especially considered quite a few of the popular "guy with tits" fics tend to have scores akin to ~200/90. Either case, neither of those is a 1.5:1 ratio, learn to count.
Granted, the big ass one has 13/11, but it's a lot to process, and it doesn't play by the rules, so it's a bit to unique for it's own safety xP
As for the latest, that did get 7/15 for... whatever reason. No-one really left a response, so fuck if I know.

And is that why you're throwing a butthurt "I don't like this! Help me yell at it until it goes away!" thread over on that site, instead of oh, I don't know? Just solving the nonexistent issue?
As for Somber, I can't put myself closer than an "adviser" to them. As we don't actively hang out or talk. And I asked them, they explicitly told me I could do it. So where the fuck is the issue?
All I can see here is you tossing a jealous fit for attention. Along with basically telling Somber to fuck off, as your judgement and opinion is apparently above his when it comes to HIS creation and decisions.


2756853 And you have told me to to report if someone actively tries to agitate me.
Like said: They have this entire time, been able to take 2 minutes, to solve this. But no, they instead insist on throwing a fit and rant about it. They refuse to check up on my claim, and instead just actively brew a shitstorm, supposedly actively starting a thread on another site just to slander me. It's not as much "disagreeing" as actively trying to piss off. It's like if I didn't look up or ask you what content was allowed to be posted, instead just kept jammering about it and dodging the question. They have ALL the means to get an answer about this, but they rather stir up drama instead.

2758946
>jealous fit for attention
When my fics are better received, and my followers aren't a bunch of shitlord perverts.
Yes, I'm soooooooooo jealous of you.
You said yourself that you did not have EXPLICIT permission, as in he told you "Yes, do the thing. I want you to do the thing." You said someone brought up the topic, and his "permission" amounted to him saying he wasn't going to do it himself. Get real.

2758973 Yes, that 6/4, impressive. All 3 of em. You got me beat there. How can I ever beat your 46/9? Woe my insufficient 61/9 or 73/18.
And considering you're following me, that's saying something of what type of people follow me eh?
Also, fyi: do know admins are not keen on the "mine's bigger than yours" smug attitude.
I never said I didn't have explicit permission. It's like you'd get pissed if I asked like... bad at examples but: if I asked them if I could take out the thrash, and get a "yeah, whatever. I don't care." and you'd throw a fit over how I took out the trash, despite the uninterested response.

You get real, and start fucking reading. A friend of mine talked some with them, brought forth the topic that I wanted to help with the fic, Somber said it was far too late in to fix anything in the story. They brought up the possibility of me doing a revision of it, got a "Sure, if they really want to. I'm not going to do it at least. So if they want one, they're gonna have to do it themselves. I won't care. I'm going to stick with this version. Mostly as it will remind me that I can do better." more or less. Do you demand they give a huge, approving party in my honor or some shit? Or link from their main story?
It's a side project I tinker with at times. And it's meant to stay separate from the original. There's a reason it got it's own thread in the official forum. If Somber doesn't give a single fuck it exists, why should you? And what right would you have to judge their decisions? Heck, if they'd feel like gender bending every single character in PH, they could do that! ... granted, that would garner a response, but still.



2759983 As said, the lack of proofreaders chunks the quality a tad bit. But the minor, main edits I do seems to have gone flawless. The random edits however... they're a bit off at times going with other readers. But otherwise the fleshing out and diversity has been majorly popular.

2761333
>still on this shit
Lel.
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'm also following you because now you've identified yourself as someone I need to keep tabs on.

Are you a fan of PH, but found the original a little "lacking" per se?

Well, I've read most of it, and while there was room for improvement I thought—

If that lacking was in terms of a more "everyone's fucked up" wasteland, where the mares aren't (sexual) moral saints with a code of honor to not rape or whatnot, I might have something for you.

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Currently lacking proofreading, so I will admit: It's not as crisp in that area as it could be.

Well, I'm sold!

But so far the response have been positive

So like... What? Three people said "eh, it's okay. Mostly still Somber's work, though"?

for breathing more life into prior stale gender roles in the fic.

Yes, of course. If there's one thing we need to fix in society, it's the fact that women don't have a gender role as rapists. And the best way to do that is by editing the chapters of a Fallout Equestria spin-off to add more rape.

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Now, personally I thought it was interesting to explore the reversed gender roles of Stable 99. What with a matriarchal society that could put any form of patriarchal group short of Caesar's Legion to shame. But no, the gender roles are 'stale' because not enough rape!

Also, with the habit of being a clop writing innovator

Oh, my goodness. I'm so sorry, madam. I had no idea I was in the presence of such an esteemed contributor to society. Please, ignore my inane ramblings; I'm sure they are of no consequence to an innovator such as yourself.

/sarcasm

Still, 99 % credit of this is still Sombers

That's being generous. It's probably more like 99.9%. And declining, because everything you're doing to his story is horrible.

I would honestly have liked to fix the same major flaw in FoE as well, but Kkat turns out be a bit more of a hermit. (and if rumors are to be believed, it'd also cramp their fetish...)

Translation: kkat couldn't be bothered to speak to me because I am dangerously insane and my proposals were both creepy and irrelevant to the story. In response, I will now make passive aggressive remarks about her to the dozen or so people willing to put up with hearing them.

2754694

Didn't think it was that unclear... did I formulate it badly, or you just confused on what's going on?

To be fair, I had no idea what you were talking about either until I got my best scientists working on figuring it out. One of them committed suicide because of the stress. I hope you're happy. Good scientists are hard to come by, you know.

Basically: The original PH had exclusively male rapists.

No it didn't. Stable 99 is basically a sex dungeon where mares rape stallions all the time. There was so much female-on-male rape that it caused my testicles to temporarily withdraw into my body because the act of reading about it resulted in a physical fear reaction.

My revision evens that out. Making sure the wasteland has rapists of both genders.

Perfect! Gender equality achieved! Now we never to worry about rape, sexism, or double standards ever again.

That was a joke. That's what I would be saying if those things were true. Which they aren't.

2754812

Talked to Somber about it, and they admit to there being errors in it

That's funny. I could've sworn you said—

(or rather, a friend for me)

That's strange. You seem to be slightly inconsistent about the permission you obtained. But, surely you—

I was thrown a "whatever, have fun" bone.

Wait, hold on...

I got written, explicit permission by Somber themselves to do it.

That sounds very important. Surely you have proof of this?

She doesn't have any proof.

2756585

But no, you just took shit into your own hands, assumed everything, made up stuff to suit you, then just ran with it, and you're still adding on more bs,

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The irony is so thick you could walk on it. Metaphorically. You obviously can't actually walk on irony.

I'm sorry if these things sound obvious. But I feel as if I have to explain everything I say as literally as possible because you seem to struggle with understanding other people.

As said, if you actually WERE Sombers friend, this would already be solved. You if anyone should know Somber is not a fan of drama, hissy fits or excessive white knighting.

Translation: Please don't bring this up to Somber. I'm afraid he'll tell me 'no' and then I can't tell everyone I have permission anymore.

that has been overall positively viewed for fleshing out chars and roles

"Amazing!" - Dewflower

"Perfect depiction of gender roles!" - Anonymous

"I love all the extra rape you've added!" - Hctas

It's been viewed, green-lit and approved over on Cloudsville, met with mixed responses.

"What the fuck is this shit?"

"Oh god, why?"

"Are you fucking serious?"

These quotes are not guaranteed to be genuine*

And well, this IS the site I am mainly known for being an author

No you aren't. You're mainly known for wandering around harassing people about how they depict horse vaginas and gender roles, then getting blocked when they get tired of your inane, passive aggressive rants and making angry blogs about it where you call them bigots. You could trademark that shit if you wanted.

I just thought said people might want to know I was planning on incorporating that type of fleshing out into PH?

No you didn't. You were hoping to get views and credit by making pointless and creepy changes to a story someone else wrote. Well, I guess it worked! You're getting attention now! Probably not the kind you wanted, though. What a pity (for you, anyway.)

And "fleshing out" is a very generous way to describe it. What you're doing is more like taking Atlas Shrugged and adding ham-fisted left-wing propaganda to balance out all the ham-fisted right-wing propaganda.

And gj, you've fucked Somber over by slapping them in the face with unnecessary drama. For someone that knows them so well, you must know how much they love stress and being interrogated. Again: why are you being such a dick to Somber?

I just want to say, I'm very impressed by your ability to stand firm in your convictions despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. For instance, by accusing 2754658 of not having Somber's best interests in mind by attempting to stop someone from mutilating his story.

At this point you seem like you're just desperately trying to assure everyone that you didn't fuck up horribly by assuming you could quietly make these changes without anyone being pissed off about it. And you especially want to make sure Somber himself doesn't deny you permission because then you'd have to go out of your way to make another blog post about how much of a bigot he is. And no one wants that.

okay, seriously, are you a Somber hater?

Yes, he just hates Somber so goddamn much because of his heinous efforts to preserve the man's story and ensure that no one fucks it over in an anvilicious attempt to promote some insane interpretation of egalitarianism.

Either case, cut this bs out before I report you for trolling/whatever.

Oh shit! We're getting real, now. Maybe SPPP should back off before—

I'd really appreciate it if you didn't make patently empty threats on my behalf, while I'm actively responding in the same thread. Literally all of these comments have been on-topic and directly related to the subject matter at hand. Disagreeing with someone is not grounds for a spam report.

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And is that why you're throwing a butthurt "I don't like this! Help me yell at it until it goes away!" thread over on that site, instead of oh, I don't know? Just solving the nonexistent issue?

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Wow. Your inability to be aware of your own blind spots could put any run-of-the-mill hypocrite to shame. You couldn't see the parallels in an equal sign, let alone in your retorts.

As for Somber, I can't put myself closer than an "adviser" to them.

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Watch out guys, we're dealing with "Somber's adviser" now. :rainbowlaugh:

As we don't actively hang out or talk.

But I'm totes his adviser you guis srsly pls stop bothering me!!11!

So where the fuck is the issue?

Oh, I think I see the problem. You aren't so much ignorant of the issue as you are completely aware of it and sticking your fingers in your ear going "LALALALALA".

Along with basically telling Somber to fuck off, as your judgement and opinion is apparently above his when it comes to HIS creation and decisions.

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Holy batman, these readings are off the chart!

And considering you're following me, that's saying something of what type of people follow me eh?

It's more because you're an interesting Specimen, really. Following you is kind of like tagging an animal released into the wild for study. Fascinating, trying to decipher your thought processes. Futile, most likely. But fascinating.

As said, the lack of proofreaders chunks the quality a tad bit.

As we all know, a good author blames the lack of proofreaders for a shitty story, thus removing all responsibility for terrible writing from the author's shoulders.

I do seems to have gone flawless.

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But otherwise the fleshing out and diversity has been majorly popular.

I love all the variation between "mixed", "well-received" and "majorly popular." It's like you can't make up your mind about your own reality, let alone understand actual reality.

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Okay. When I'm REALLY amused I make this really weird choked inward squeak sound. And I've been known to gigglesnort.
You just got both.

2756705 Can't plagiarise My little Dashie well their goes my 18+ story then.

2761525 You don't have to keep bawling to me how butthurt you are. You made that clear from the get-go. And I'm not going to kiss your boo-boo either. You brought that on yourself when being too thick to understand things you hurled yourself into repeatedly.
I can get if you're jealous you're not allowed to make your own versions, but shesh, just ask Somber, I'm sure they'll let you have a crack at it too if you're now that desperate.

And quite sure you did it prior to this.
And to use the thing most use as a shield, because honestly, you're not even worth trying to explain it too: I'd like to see you do better then.


2761659 Well, at least today's trolls put a little more effort into their work... well, most of them. MTAR does even less than pretend to try, so eh...

4: Actually, a few of the original proofeaders, and a couple on the official PH discussion thread has said the (primary) edits have been really great. Patches up the plot holes and flesh out the story further. As said, only real "eh" I've gotten has been some experimental adjustments elsewhere. Like, making BJ more like Somber wish her to come off as has proven really difficult. Mostly as she early chapter directly contradicts Sombers spoken wishes of how they see her. (like that she's a complete, utter sub sexually, mainly caring about their partners pleasure) So been trying to clear stuff like that up. Continuity issues and what have you. Things that go against themselves, or conflict later in the story when a character makes a 180 personality swap or acts ooc because plot convenience.

5: The original FoE had two fatal derps in it's story: No female rapists. And the bs "Oh yeah, I forgot the stronger levitation unicorn in the wasteland could levitate stuff!" cop out. If I cba, I would fix those points. But they're too asocial, derpy (on account that, they instead of helping one of the 5 rpg's being made for FoE, they just stole the base of one of them, then made their own out of that.) and might dislike their fetish fuel being removed for me to bother contacting them.

6: Still beats the half assed "I only know how to do one thing, but people have too low standards to notice I'm just replacing the names of the characters of the fic I keep rewriting!" I'm at least trying to contribute with something. And having invented/revamped 6+ fetishes. I've at least done a shitton more than those haphzard "slap tits on a guy, profit" people.

7: If going in on decimals, then yes, that'd be about right. And oh, stop bitching. Bet you were one of those that threw a hissy fit that bioware dared to release another ending for Mass Effect 3.

8: I have talked to them several times. Both in and out of forums, And they got a bit of a stick up there. Granted, quite deserved stick. But they kinda arrogantly brushed any critique out the window. Regardless whom said it. Then as said: Their RPG flop. Where they just went "yoinks!" and "Hey look! I did a thing!". Plus, it's not like their fetish boner is that much of a secret.

10: Apart from the later "oh no, we like it here. We're males! males love sex!" reveal. Where the only ones that seemed to suffer were the gay males.
Plus, 99 doesn't count as "the wasteland". As it is stated as being this twisted abomination exception that somehow managed to corrupt mares enough to think like stallions.

And allright, to shup up your self righteous wailing:
The proof you're attempting to mock me over not having. (I am blocking out the non-relevant text, just because you're lazy, I won't let you read all the content of a PM)
And: http://cloudsville.forumotion.com/ just search through the log of "[Official!] Project Horizons Comment Crew Chat thread." the discussion in question should be from somewhere past autumn last year.

If I really wasn't sure, I wouldn't be asking them to ask their "best bud" Somber, like they claim they are. They're the ones spewing lies out their ass, as they're the one that CAN'T as Somber, because they don't KNOW him. Just acting high and mightily and like they do.
Where's all your proof then hm? And like said: I never claimed every single person in the world loves it. Most forum and tumblr wise find the small retouches neat. But like said: think I can do with polish on the sub-changes. Atop that; Like I said: I have permission, but apparently not the "FUCK YEAH! THIS IS AMAZING!" recommendation from Somber himself, and link from the original PH index to my revision of PH, that guy apparently demands I have a "whatever, have fun, I don't care" permission. Somber ain't hyped over it, they'll never read it. So why the fuck should I try and have Somber promote my work for? I'm keeping it separate as they wish. I aim to keep as much intact aside from the stale wasteland gender roles, the ooc, inconsistencies or plot holes.
So please, before next time acting like you know or are worth shit: Suck a bag of horsecunts, then come back to me. Thank you.

And woo... I've exposed some half-assed or hack authors. Like what? Four or so have exploded in rants trying to protect their shitty, self-contradictory, hypocritical excuses? All failing horribly to understand that something goes both ways. And that one author that actually had a reason, and was competent enough to do both ways.
And I made a troll run away crying when I did play by their rules. As apparently, they only wanted to play with fire, but couldn't handle getting burned.
Either case, of the sites I am on. This is the one I am an established author on.
So, to use an excuse on par with your level: I don't see you doing better in either. Thus, by "internet law", you aren't allowed to question me or my work any further until you have outdone me in both fields, because it's my preference. (seriously, if you guys can use these retarded reasoning's, so can I)

And again: this lazy ass excuse of "I are totally after all dem views, muhahaha!" because yeah, those'll TOTALLY do shit for me.
Seriously, you worthless accusation is so slapdash it's even insulting to your own thickness in how you could even think it made sense.
Almost as stupid as the "you're writing about porn, that means you are copying my favorite author, they also write porn. About male buttsex. Which is totally the same as lesbian oral. Because they're both porn! You're just copying them and writing about ponies to get views!" reasoning I recently got feebly tossed at me. Like yeah... writing about any type of porn for views... that's only one person on this entire site that does that...

And like said prior: If they actually knew Somber, they'd know they wouldn't want it to blow into a full scale drama and/or flame wars. What the first they do? Attempt to to rile up a riot and have dozens of people run yelling at Somber of "what's going on". Instead of just either 1: Settling this in private. 2: Contacting Somber, asking about it. But nope, full scale, self-proclaimed white knight drama it is.

And seriously, how narrow minded are you if you believe that nothing can be more than ONE thing? Like you're only capable of either giving someone 10/10 or 0/10. You are aware that not everything has to be either fucking amazing or utter shit, right? I am stating it as it is. Most all have liked the diversity changes. Quite many are rather "eh" about the sub changes. And many are mixed about personality tweaks. Are you really so dense you can't see someone enjoy some parts of a thing but not all of it?
And yes, ofc it's going to be a bit clunky without proofreaders. Heck, a lot of the "famous" authors on this site are quite shit without them.

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Uh. What? In what fucked up world does that make logical sense?
Unlike the vast majority that went "lemme copy the original / PH / famous side stories" with their FoE sidefics, I went with an entirely different timeline. The very early portions involved ideas me and Somber fleshed out.
Also reading that he actually says in the beginning "Don't do the thing" but says that he doesn't care. That is not explicitly telling you to do the thing.
Also "invented/revamped 6+ fetishes" kek,

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I say! Your post is so terribly long that I felt my eyes cross just trying to read it! You know what? I'm not even going to have my surviving scientists translate this one. That would simply be cruel. Those fine chaps have earned themselves a vacation.

As I'm only human, therefore not perfect (just really close), I will instead merely skim your post and guess at what the bloody hell you might be saying.

First of all, I'm really impressed at how well you know Blackjack as a character. I mean, you know her better than the author that wrote her and planned her personality. You must really resonate with Somber and Blackjack to be able to accurately predict exactly how she was supposed to have been written. Well done. You're a credit to your species. Thank goodness I can now read the story knowing that Blackjack is more accurately portrayed as sexually submissive now. As we all know, that was the primary purpose of the story.

And you know, I see your point about the original FoE. When I was reading that story, you know what my main thought was? It was "Huh, I really wish there was more rape. I feel like there isn't enough rape." Some might think that constant mentionings of sexual assault are irrelevant to the overall story and could quite possibly be unappealing or outright disgusting to the reader, but you... You're a visionary, aren't you? A true innovator with a dream. A utopia where both stallions and mares both rape freely and equally with no bigoted authors to say otherwise.

I'm tearing up just thinking about it... *sniffle* Truly inspiring.

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And, you know, it's good that you're trying to help. It reminds me of my glory days back in the Royal Army during the Great War. You see, my lads and I had just gone over the top of our trench to go show those Jerries the what-for! Now, of course, this being the Great War, we almost all died within seconds in a hail of German machine gun fire. Nasty business, you understand. Not gentlemanly warfare at all. But that's how we did things back in 1916!

After I bravely hid behind a pile of corpses to absorb the incoming bullets, I noticed that one of my mates had taken a bullet through the stomach. Now, this is a good time to mention that we were under fire from machine guns and being shelled by artillery, and that I had no medical training whatsoever, but by the Queen's saggy bosoms, that didn't stop Captain von Monocle!

Naturally, I fetched my bayonet and started doing some surgery. Unfortunately, there were mixed results. After my mate finally stopped screaming and there was nothing left of his torso but a bleeding, pulpy mass of meat, I realized that perhaps I should have allowed a medical officer to do it instead. Ah, but the intent is all that matters, is it not? Besides, at the end of that charge, I did manage to limp back to my trench with all my limbs intact!

I do forget where I was going with this metaphor. I think I was trying to say that your edits are terrible or something. Yeah, something like that.

And I must say, I am quite impressed by you managing to get into contact with Madam kkat. Fine author, she is. Not enough rape, in my humble British opinion, but most certainly talented. I do find it curious how you insist that she brushed off critique. I, for one, cannot imagine why she didn't want to go out of her way to write more rape into a story that is clearly all about rape and gender roles, and certainly not about a fire-forged band of friends overcoming horrendous conditions and terrifying enemies in order to save the post-apocalyptic hellhole that is Equestria. I don't quite see why people don't think rape is the central theme of Fallout Equestria, but by golly, it needed more of it!

Now, I feel that I must object in one area. For one thing, I do not want to suck a bag of horsecunts. I have noticed what some might regard as a rather unhealthy obsession with those on your end, but I feel that if nothing else I must point out that one cannot 'suck' a vagina. Vaginas simply do not work that way. I'm uncertain as to why you have confused them with penises, but they are not the same organ, you know.

But if you insist that you have Somber's half-assed uncaring permission, then I won't stop you from using it. Even though it makes you look rather desperate, grasping at the tiniest bone that anyone will throw at you.

And my word! How dare you be so presumptuous as to cite Internet Law to me! I, Sir Captain von Monocle of the 29th Royal Artillery Navy Seals Green Berets Division of the Queen's Royal Hussars, am also a highly famous expert on Internet Common Law! I was educated at the London Academy of British Internet and I'll have you know that I am the world's most renowned expert!

And my professional opinion, my good lady, is that I am most certainly entitled to question the shit out of you to my heart's content! And nothing you do can stop me or my monocle. Well, I suppose you could block me, but that wouldn't be a very sporting move now would it? Doesn't reflect well on an author who has to suppress any criticism, if you ask me.

Now, I must confess that I am at a loss as to how any of this relates, even in the slightest, to the differences between homosexual sex between men and oral sex performed on females... I suspect you have problems with internalized reverse bigotry channeled inward due to being such an awfully suppressed minority. As a foremost expert on psychology trained at the Edinburgh University of Quackery, I must advise you to seek mental assistance or very strong animal tranquilizers. Please, do it for all our sakes.

And I'll have you know that I am not narrow minded at all! I perfectly understand how one thing can be more than one thing. That is common sense! I once made myself a meal of tea and crumpets for breakfast, but you know what I did? I ate it for lunch, later! How's that for narrow-minded, huh? Honestly, you colonial rubes fail to understand proper Britishness anymore. Flinging accusations left and right, the lot of you. No respect for the old ways anymore!

Bah, I don't need this. I'm going back to disapprovingly reading news articles about foreign events.

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