Gee, bigots are still ignorant, arrogant docuebags, who would've thunk? (NSFW language rant) · 3:02am Nov 4th, 2014
Haven't done one of these in a while. (and in case someone ponders; actually got a story planned soon. It's being revised)
But yeah, just ran into to some narrow minded fuck, that couldn't even excuse their own blatant lies. Like, gee, what's that you say? You only like women? But refuse to write about detailed female anatomy? Finding it, along with horsecunts disgusting? And insist on writing about huge, wrinkly, throbbing horse penises? What's that? You don't care about male anatomy, and can just write whatever? Then why not human anatomy to match your supposed love for it? What's that? Can't do that? Need to write horsecock because it's your preference you just said you didn't have along with that you didn't care about, yet refuse to not get to write about the large, veiny dicks? Why gee, that does make perfect sense! Seeing how you only are into females and don't care about male anatomy.
Totally explains the gay fics and the excessive cock worship and haphazard descriptions of pussy!
Oh, I can't know this because I haven't read every single of your fics? Well then, let me just glance through 10 of them and... oh my, it does have an abundance of floppy, wrinkly penises being praised everywhere! While the pussies are kinda this thing that just has to be there in order for you to talk about how big and throbbing the dicks are for filling the cunts to the brim, and shooting their hot, sticky, delicious cum into them, and onto the things that have those, non-penis things... That's totally what you said I was wrong about for not reading! How naughty of me to actually read them then!
Yeah, no, seriously... do those people even know how retarded they seem? Going how thick they are, I doubt it...
But who can forget their flawless argument attempts like "human genitals would look retarded on a horse!" and "I'm not a zoophile. Animal genitalia is disgusting!", while both of said people half-ass and mismatch their anatomy by having human/porn females, and equine males. Yupp, not contradicting the least... only redeeming quality on one of these fuckers was that they at least allowed different opinion than their own. (granted, seemingly only if kept away from them but)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ What can you do?
Yeah, there are a lot of people worshipping penises.
For my part, I kinda hate it, that's the main reason I don't like futa, I find it blasphemy to put a dick on a female...
But I found the horrible truth that in fact people who doesn't like penises are minority, among men and women, it's kinda sad, I excepted women to at least not worship it, but no....
But I still have some problems with the way you describe genitalia (I even tried to translate some of your fics in french, but the vocabulary and some scenes are huge turn off once translated,) but well, I like your works, so it's okay.
Still, good news you find inspiration again.
2575933 There is... I honestly just hate the bigoted douchebags though. Those that do it, yet respect vulva are fine. Their right to a fetish.
And in 90+ % of cases, it's just a guy with tits, they can't rightly be called females. They lack the right to do that. (almost all as said) As for blasphemy, I only think that if they treat it like the only "true way", and praise it like the effing epiphany of how vastly superior it is to anything else in the entire world. Being more endowed and better than any regular male, and not being a female, so they're allowed to get off and shit... I can handle proper herms and actual transgenders, but guys with tits? Nope.
And yeah... the social standards and porn norms are really fucking that up tbh...
Especially with how vulva worship is more or less a heresy. And not liking penises is almost illegal. Depending where you browse at the net.
And that I occasionally overdetail them or go excessive? I honestly almost only do that in spite off, or to show the counterpart of how generic porn fics are doing it. Though, I do like actually paying some attention+respect to the female genitalia... I mean, someone at least ought to... and yeah, can see them not translating too well ^^' Using many unisex, "almost always only used as a male term" words.
And thanks. It quickly drained, but hopefully I can finish em somewhat soon.
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I agrre completely, I had the same discussion with Razzle Dazzle.
I mean, I read futa, even if I don't like this genre. Some people like it, okay, I don't judge them, but there is a difference between giving a penis to a female character and completely obliterating the fact that she has both genitalia. And most of the time, it's not just a dick, it's a huge and magnificent 30cm long dick, and vagina is never used during intercourse.
I read Twilight apology to the reader for a long time.
But when the author clearly said he only wrote a vaginal chapter because some readers insisted on it and it was out of question to do it again, I simply stopped. What is the point to use futa, R63 is more appropriate in that case.
On the contrary, I was a little disappointed in WraithRabbit fic with twilight herd when it turned into futa. But both genitalia are equally rused and there isn't over proportioned or pleasurable penis. And it's also necessary for the plot, so it's ok.
As for the other point, I'd say, yes, the main problem is that you reffer to the female genitalia as a male one and that can be disturbing or even a turn off.
Like I told you by MP I think, I really doubt we can refer to ovaries like family jewels or that people compare the size of their clitoris like some compare the size of their penises (thing I find really dumb, but well, the world is like it is). In fact that the main problem I have with your LittlepipxVeletremedy, and it's a shame because I'd really like to translate it.
2579220 Hum, not sure if I recall, or know them :P
I've read some futa, both most of them have sucked ass. And as said: It's not always they have both. And yeah, it's always this super superior genital in every way. (and any vulva is just glossed over) And in terms of the "magic r63" fics where a char inexplicably gets a dick, they always have a 180 personality swap, going from "all women are obedient cumdumps" to "selfish douchebag". Like, shesh, not only males have needs, or are the only gender that can cum you fucks... and sub/dom isn't gender based...
And sounds like a overall crappy fic imo... and yeah; if you just want to write about dick slobbering: just write gay porn ffs. Don't use "female" chars if you cba to even USE female chars properly. (Either go all the way as said, or don't bother at all) But yeah, r63 would be way more logical. Like said: Most futa are literally just guys, with tits... though in mlp fandom, feral wise, most skip those too... it's just a lame excuse to try and justify it not "being gay".
The other one sounds quite a bit more decent/balanced in that regard though. Overall imo, if they want to fanwank and cock worship, at least show capable of doing the opposite as well...
And I actually never refer to it as a male one... I only use terms that actually anatomically work. Like, when I'm aroused, blood flows to my genitals, filling my erectile tissue, leaving my clitoris fully erect, pulling back the hood as it engorges. So, why would I be unable to say I have an erection? Trust me when I say I only use words that work. Also, I "have to" in most cases... as tbh, a LOT of the terms for females just suck... or when there's literally only "wet" as the only word for arousal description.
By MP? And "family jewel" (not jewels) in my fic refers to a mare's clitoris. And yeah, I do find the "size totes matters!" trope a bit stupid. But I only use it to either: mock it, or use it "casually", like "oh hey, mines bigger than yours" or whatnot. Not in any "HAHA! I AM BETTER THAN YOU BECAUSE MY GENITAL IS BIGGER!" just as a observation. They just appreciate the variety.
And which one? That they compare sizes and/or use "family jewel"? The reasons are: 1: Pip is notably size fixated in the fic, so it rather fit to include. And tried to do so in a neutral manner, it was more in a surprised reaction. (also, that fic could really have been grand if it actually had proper male AND female rapists, not just a porn norm of male exclusive thing) 2: The jewel thing had to do with Rarity, because gems you know? Lame inside joke but :P And well, you can technically replace the words? I could even help if you want.
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AH! that makes more sense if family jewel meant clitoris, but seriously, as I never heard that expression for female characters, I was a little lost. (for male, it refer to testicles.... so....), or you could have said "my pearl/gem", it makes more sense and it's more used, I think...
As for erection, ejaculation, etc... I know perfectly well that they can both be used for both genders, and I know you don't refer to female genitalia as male genitalia, the problem is, the way you do it make it look like it.
(don't know if it makes any sens said like this)
And for the gay reference, I'm 100% behind you (no pun intended). A guy that worship that much penises should question himself. But once again, it seems that futa is equally liked by men and women, so.... (and no, I'm certainly not judging homos)
It's more the fact that futa is wrote like if pleasure was impossible if there wasn't a penis involved I dislike. And most of the time worse, the famous bigger is better....
Yeah, I thought about changing some words/terms/expressions, but I never began to translate, I'd need to put all my time in it to target the parts to change.
For now I'm 98% on my mainfic, so maybe later.
And yes, I'll ask you for the part I misunderstood :D
I'll tell you when I'll begin working on it.
(PS: the mp is old, some weeks/months ago I think)
2579850 Yeah... I kinda stole the "family jewels" term, and cut off the "s", to refer to a single thing. That being the clit. And I use those terms too. Family jewel gives a bit of extra personal "oomph" to it imo. And I think I get what you mean. But as said: Problem is that there is a VERY narrow vocabulary in porn, sex wise. To set certain tones, I need to use "rougher" terms, and the only ones are male ones... like; writing a gloryhole fic atm. It had one of the fetishes I've invented; (aside from the obvious equine glory hole xD) female deepthroating. (equine version to be specific) Now, if I want a mare to roughly try to pound as much of her orgasm out of it? Writing that she slammed her hips back against the wall, forcing her throbbing clit past the uvula as the walls clamped down like a vice while she began unloading down his throat, hissing out as the painted the stallions throat with her thick cum, her winking meat being tighly squeezed by his throat? Or that she lets out a soft moan, pushing her curvy hips back, making her petals slide around his muzzle as her slick, supple pearl manages to slide by the tight passage, causing her to start releasing her sweet nectar... yeah, you get the point, right? xD It's near impossible to write intense sex done by a female using the words were given to work with.
And yeah... some people just have you quirk a brow at... like, "so, your totally straight, but despise everything about females?"... how do they even think that make sense? And for most males, liking futa is just a brain wiring error.
And yeah, no hating on the gays for my part, but... yeah, like said: some people are just "wat?"... like, it's okay to be gay, just stop flaunting your bi-curiosity or whatever while yelling how not gay you are, trying to not choke on the bucket of dicks...
And yeah, hate that bs... ties in with the whole "only males can cum" stereotype. And as said: almost always tied in with the size trope too.
And ah, okies.
And okies.
(And what does mp mean? xD)
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Yeah, I remember the deepthroat, and frankly, I have a really hard time to understand how it is possible.
First, the clit must be huge, very huge. Ok, they are ponies, but still, they have muzzles, and muzzles are already deep.
That means they should have part of their muzzle (the lower I suppose) completely sink in the vagina.
Now, I know some fic have muzzle penetration (yeah, it's on my list of turn on), but here it's only the lower maw, there are teeth....
Don't know if the pleasure can outclass this sensation, and it should be very uncomfortable for the giver.
As for the comparison... yeah, I prefer eroticism to porn, so I prefer the second version, sorry
Sorry, I wanted to say PM, not MP (it's the same but in french)
2580219 It's this really weird zone of "it should be possible", yet hard to get right xP As, but all calculations, it IS possible, just getting there is the hard part heh.
And it's not really the clit that is the main part in it. Basically, the three main things it can work in (without turning to violence), is first: size difference. If you got ex: Princess sized pony on regular pony, or foal. The clit should be able to "slink in". 2: And yes, "muzzle penetration" is a large part of it. It's having one jaw inside, and the other going along the abdomen. Going around the pelvis in order to get the clit to the throat. It helps a bit they can unfold it though. But yeah, the core thing, is them muzzling deep inside. Also: humasn also have teeth, doesn't stop us. 3: Using magic/potions, or etc. Can make ex: the cheeks phase through, or stretch around the folds as the giver tries to go deeper. Allowing them to have the clit reach, and pass the uvula, while muzzle fucking them. My ideal version of it has minimal discomfort to giver, for both versions.
And I dunno either, but TONS of human males seem confident it is totally worth it/justifiable. Many of which utterly disregard the comfort of the giver. (mainly seems to be females) While I've seen, and heard of a lot of females that are encouraged to be into it, because they should. Or that the male pleasure goes above their comfort. Granted, some are masochists and do actually get going on it. But that said, it can be done "properly" with aim to cause as little discomfort as possible. Though, many still use it as solely a douchebag thing. Both human and equine DT are kinda "softer models". (equine male can be discussed due to softer penis but... proportions seems very misused.) At least human, as it only use the labia, which are far from as stiff.
Oh, don't worry. I prefer it too :3 I just meant that you can't really write "gentle" sex with male terms, and you can't really write "intense" sex with female terms. It was a overall complaint to it as a whole. Even if I wouldn't want to write it, it'd still like to BE able to. Just have the option.
And ah, okay, now it makes sense :P
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So it really is like I thought.
The problem is that in the Coco Pomel fic, it's not explained, only told that she receive a deepthraoting (don't know if the word exist), and that's confusing. I even think someone told you they thought it was futa.
The other problem in this fic is that Pomel is standing up when she is receiving, that mean it's the upper muzzle that's would be inserted. Now, I understand that it would be already hard to breath with most of the vagina in the mouth and the throat invaded, but isn't there a risk that fluids would come in the nose ? If I remember correctly, the stallion stay in this position for quite a long time...
2583556 Oh? It is like what exactly?
And hum... maybe it was glossed over in that fic... and the word deepthroating exists... did I misspell it as deepthraoting in that, or was that just tou just now? And people do that to quite a few of my fics, because they are unable to imagine certain words as anything but referring to a male. Thus, why they thought it was a guy with tits.
And like said: Males have already, and are practicing the male version of this constantly. Using mainly females as gunniepigs. So, with work, they'd be able to go at it for quite a while. It is as said a quite straining act for whatever gender does it, or who's involved in giving it. But yes, it could have a slight chance to go into the nose.
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No problem with the word, I was not sure if I used a correct word, that's all.
As for what I thought, it's what you explained, it is like I thought how it worked.
2584148 Ah, okay. And you did. To what I know. As said: I only ever use words that "work" as well :P
And okies. Glad to hear it could be imagined at least heh.
The reason they aren't detailed is because they've never seen one. It's hard to describe something that you have no experience with, lol. If you read some of those clopfics, you can usually tell the difference between a virgin and somebody experienced just by how they describe the experience.
2609804 Not the same thing. If said person is willing to spend dozens of hours, researching ex: horse penises to make sure they describe with photo realism exactly how much they flare up and ejaculate, the average length and etc... while the best they could do for vulva was "it was wet", and not a single word on how it looks, despite taking up 3 out of 15 pages with describing how the dicks look in exact detail, they are failing at something. There's a difference on being inexperienced and... doing whatever the fuck to call that kind of half-assing. Like said: especially if all the scenes they make sloppy involve females, and the only detailed ones are how it feels to be fucked in the ass or whatever, and they make a huge claim about "how straight they are", it does make me derp for more than one reason.
2616303 I'll give you that, it is a fair point. I don't mind reading a story where somebody goes into depth describing somebody's cock, but they shouldn't expect people to buy their claims that they're completely straight and not at all interesting in said penis.
2616309 Imo, if they bother to put so much work and effort into studying penis, they should at least bother to put close to as much, or even just ½ of that time into following up on vulva as well. (unless they can give some actually valid reason why not to.) But in either case, like said: they shouldn't expect to be let off scot-free of any feedback whatsoever. Nor like you said: expect people to just go "okay!" on their claim to be "totally straight with only interest in women", when none is shown in their work at all. Sides, it's not even really gay to be into penis. Heck, seemingly more straight guys almost seem to love them more than straight girls... granted, common brain miss-wiring, but still. People blow that out of proportion. Heck, often people seem to see it as more gay to know how a vulva looks like somehow...
2609804 True but being honest mate parody clop is far more fun to write! I have been meaning to write a proper clop but never got round to it. And as you said describing sex in good detail is really shit master baiting material because people want a vision of the bodies doing the nasty rather than what the people are thinking and feeling.
2618168 Clop is word porn, pure and simple. The issue I find is that most of the people trying to write clop are a bit lacking of any real experience in the matter and are therefor ignorant of what's really going on. Fortunately for them, most of the viewerbase for erotica is composed of inexperienced virgins anyways.
2618174 Exactly this is why writing over the top clop stuff works because these people have it in there heads that sex is like a porno or an erotic game which is exactly what i used for my clop, why? Because it is what the people want. Sad really but hey no point writing a detailed sex story that shows what real sex is if most of the audience is not going to understand it.
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I must be a freak then, because I consider writing to be the ideal medium for romance specifically because you can include thoughts and emotions during sex scenes
And I don't care much for penises either. And especially hate them on females, although that's more just because so many otherwise enjoyable lesbian fics have been spoiled by them, when only the foreplay is done as females, and then switch to boring straight sex as soon as things really get going. Honestly, it puzzles me that so many people like them, when the female anatomy seems so far superior to me... but everyone is entitled to their own preferences.
As for the "I'm straight but vulvas are gross" types... they might actually be telling the truth. All that's necessary for reproduction is to stick your penis in there for a minute, which doesn't require actually getting a closeup look at what lies beyond that fluffy patch of hair (oh, pubic hair is gross too?
). Just disregard them as a separate line of evolution, and write about what you yourself would like to read. You get a smaller audience, but a happier one.
2636771 boring straight sex as soon as things really get going. Honestly, it puzzles me that so many people like them, when the female anatomy seems so far superior to me... but everyone is entitled to their own preferences.
"Boring straight sex" dude I am bi-sexual and there is nothing boring about sex in general. Trust me sex can be interesting and fun regardless. Also "female anatomy seems so far superior to me" Superior seems like a bit of a dickish thing to say.
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There is such a thing as interesting straight sex... and boring lesbian sex. And I guess a lot of those stories would have probably been that if not for the sprouting of penises anyway, so I probably shouldn't complain so much.
"Superior seems like a bit of a dickish thing to say."
...is that supposed to be an insult or a joke?
If insult, then sorry, but I did say everyone is entitled to their preferences, which includes me, and I really do have a strong preference for females.
If joke, then I am amused by your clever word play
(Really not 100 why FiMFiction even tells me people are having a chat on my journal, doesn't inform when it's on stories. Or, least it didn't used to do that)
2636859 Yeah, like discussed prior. It gets really bland/boring when they decide to shove in the generic straight sex in a supposed lesbian comic/fic or whatnot. People can say what they want, but having ex: straight porn in a lesbian fic, is still bs. Especially if it has no lesbian porn. It's kinda like... Michael Bay-ing it, doing a work about a thing, then barely include that thing, or make the work entirely about another thing. Things have their places. Putting them out of line tends to just end up sloppily. Part of why I go so heavily on my content table. People will know what they get into with my work. And those that bitch about it, have no right to do so, (at least on the base content level) as I do mention all of what a work will contain. (ie: if they hate ex: females, don't read a freaking story ABOUT females. Shesh, still recall that guy... they were expected both chars to just grow a dick and have male gaysex "like a normal lesbo fic", people these days...)
As for DS, don't bother apologizing to them. They're a renowned troll and generally just try and bait you. So, just stick to plain talk, unless you enjoy pissing contests and/or flame war.
2656567 A bit amusing, but their skits tend to be :P
But yeah, kinda hard to take someone seriously when they insist they're "totes straight", they just happen to be disgusted by women, and love to gobble cock x3