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“If the youth are not initiated into the tribe, they will burn down the village, just to feel its warmth.” — African proverb

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May
6th
2012

A World that Hates the Sun · 6:07am May 6th, 2012

“Once upon a time, in the magical land of Equestria, there were two regal sisters who ruled together and created harmony for all the land. To do this, the eldest sister used her unicorn powers to raise the sun at dawn. The younger brought out the moon to begin the night. Thus, the two sisters maintained balance for their kingdom and their subjects: all the different types of ponies.

“But as time went on, the elder sister grew greedy. Though the ponies relished and played in the day and honored her above her younger sister, she wanted to become queen of both night and day. One fateful day, she turned upon her younger sister. The younger sister tried to reason with her, but the avarice in the elder one’s heart had transformed her into a wicked mare of fire and hate: Corona. She vowed that she would reign forever over day, night, and everything in between.

“Reluctantly, the younger sister harnessed the most powerful magic known to ponydom: the Elements of Harmony! Using the magic of the Elements of Harmony, she defeated her elder sister and banished her permanently into the heart of the sun. The younger sister took on responsibility for both sun and moon, and harmony has been maintained in Equestria for generations since.”

Oh, look, I can re-write the opening monologue. I bet that makes me a fantastic writer! No, not really. Still, it was something that needed to be done, so there it is.

The thing is, there's a fundamental difference in a world where Celestia goes evil and a world where Luna goes evil. The night is something that is seen as just, in and of itself, creepy, mysterious, and maybe a little evil - and so it follows that princess, the alicorn, the goddess of the night, Luna, must herself be creepy, mysterious, and maybe a little evil. Thus it probably wasn't a big surprise when Luna turned to evil in the main My Little Pony universe. Certainly it was easy to accept.

But if Celestia turns evil, that's a different animal altogether. Celestia is the day, the sunlight. She is what allows ponies to grow food, to stay warm, even so basic a thing as see: all thanks to the sun. So a world where the goddess of the Sun turned to greed and evil, but was then defeated by the creepy and mysterious sister who since then has been keeping the day-night thing going on schedule, is going to be a different Equestria from the one we've known on a very, very fundamental level.

This blog post is just a sort of stream-of-consciousness write-up of some of my thoughts on the subject. Feel free to add anything you like in the comments section!

Betrayal
This, I think, is going to be the most fundamental feeling that the ponies feel towards Corona. Princess Luna turning into Nightmare Moon? Eh, knew it was going to happen. Could see that coming from a mile away. But Princess Celestia becoming Corona? Celestia had everything she could ever want. She was more loved, more respected, the elder sister, the bringer of the beloved dawn. So when she turned to evil and tried to become goddess-queen of Equstria, is cut deep into the racial psyche of the pony tribes. If even the Princess of the Sun can turn to wickedness, then anything can. Ponies might not be more pessimistic, but they're certainly more open to the idea of someone lying to them or trying to scam them. It would take more than a song and dance routine, basically, for Flim and Flam to pull what they did in this universe.

Corona is not Forgotten
Now here, we enter into a fundamental difference between Luna and Celestia. I don't think Luna would stand to have her sister's fall into fire and hate be morphed into a holiday where you hand out candy to children. Aside from it being very difficult to imagine a daylight-themed Halloween, it just doesn't seem in-character for her. Now, mind, there *will* be a day set aside for the memory of Celestia, probably the summer solstice, but it's a day of mourning, not a day of tricks and treats. Similarly, Luna would not allow Celestia to simply fade into memory - and even if she was of a mind to let that happen, the deep, race-wide sense of betrayal that the ponies feel towards Corona wouldn't let that happen, either. Everypony knows the story of Corona, everypony would recognize her on sight if she were to return.

The Sun is Bad
Corona isn't just the corrupted goddess of the sun. She *is* the sun, sealed away inside of it. What does that mean? Well, most ponies don't really know. Does it mean that, in some ways, she *is* the sun? Does this mean that the very light that is warming you and letting you grow your crops and see what's in front of your own face, is in fact being provided by Corona? That is a less-than-fun thought. Like the human equivalent of learning that all dreams stem from Great Cthulhu. Of course, the ponies can't just dodge sunlight, or become nocturnal creatures: everything they need to live needs to be tended to in the daylight. Still, I think this will translate into a few superstitions and habits. Hats are going to be more common, in order to shield your eyes from the sun. And I imagine that a tradition of noontime siesta has formed, or something like that. At noon, when the sun is highest in the sky, ponies generally head indoors. They don't necessarily nap, as the term "siesta" suggests, but they basically spend an hour or so waiting for the sun to leave its high position.

Princess Luna is in Charge
So Celestia goes evil, is thrown down, and then sealed in the sun. Princess Luna is now in charge. Princess Luna. The creepy, mysterious, and maybe a little evil goddess of the night. How do you feel about that, Equestrians? Probably not so good. Probably a significant number of Equstrians believed that Luna may have had a hoof in the creation of Corona. Luna denies it, of course, but do you really believe her? She's the goddess of the night, ergo, darkness, ergo, evil. Of course, she is a goddess, so there's not much you can do about it. As the years go by and Luna doesn't really undertake any action to bring about eternal night or something, so gradually you settle into a kind of complacency. Luna is creepy and mysterious...but maybe you were wrong about the evil part. But never forget: she is the goddess of the night, not the day. The goddess of everything you fear, not the comforting warmth and light of the sun. She may seem benevolent, she may genuinely be benevolent, but ponies are always going to have this sense of distance from her.

Luna's Reign
Luna is not her sister. She is a blunt, hoofs-on kind of pony. She is also somewhat feared by the populace for being a deity of the night despite not being a bad pony, but over a thousand years she's come to accept this - and being in charge for a thousand years has allowed Luna to build up a large stable (no pun intended) of friends and associates, not to mention that despite the general mistrust, there *is* a sizeable portion of the pony population that is grateful to Luna for saving their behinds from Corona. Luna also has direct representatives of her Court in every major city and town in Equestira, including Ponyville. These representatives form a part of the local government and report directly to her. Theoretically they wield a tremendous amount of influence; in practice, Luna looks poorly on ponies who attempt to misuse their power. Mostly they serve as glorified messengers between their appointments and the Court, and relay her royal edicts directly to the populace.

Anyway, that's about all I can think up at the moment for this blog post. Like I said, I welcome any questions, comments, concerns, or criticisms.

Thanks for reading!

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You've basically wrote your opening chapter here. the real question tho, is will you begin from the beginning? you started with episode six, but now you need to show us how all these different ponies got together. Show us how it all began, in canterlot, with trixie being sent off to ponyville, was it even during the summer sun festival? inquiring minds want to know. tell us what your brain says. :derpyderp1:

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Well, "Boast Busted" states that it was actually during the opposite of the summer sun celebration - the Longest Night, the winter solstice, which matches up with the timeframe of the Eventime festival being during the vernal equinox, months later.

That's cerainly an interesting concept. Celestia turning evil. Princess Luna is alright. But I just like Nightmare Moon way better. I wish she kept that form. I don't know why, that's me. But this will be an interesting blog.:moustache:

If you can truly write this into your stories, I will follow you for a long time and distance.

If there's one aspect of this that I'd like to see you go deeper into, it's the fundamental differences of personality between Celestia and Luna. They're as different as night and day (so to speak), and their approaches to governing should reflect that. I guess everybody has their own take on the princesses (and I wouldn't presume to tell you how to write your story), but for whatever it's worth here is mine...

Celestia is all about knowledge, reason and power -- a perfect Enlightenment Age leader. She wants her country to work like a machine, with every part in its proper place and turning smoothly, and the trains running on time. Her natural approach to any problem involves tackling it head-on, and she prefers openness over concealment or deception. She keeps a tight reign on the nobles and bureaucrats, not tolerating much nonsense from them. Her natural impulse is to follow the rules, and she expects others to do the same. Her game is chess.

Luna is all about myths, instincts and dreams. Her truth is relative and fluid, and she'd rather inspire than explain. Her natural approach to any problem involves concealment, deception, and manipulating friends and enemies alike into doing what she wants. Although no friend of Discord, Luna isn't obsessed with order; dreams are chaotic, you can't summon them from a mathematical formula. Luna loves her secrets and enjoys the byzantine rivalries, spying and scheming of the royal court, and is pulling the strings behind most of them. She thinks rules can be bent, renegotiated and subverted. Her game is poker.

I also think that both our Celestia and your Luna have chosen and shaped their students in their own image (which you did an outstanding job of portraying, in the case of Trixie). Twilight and Celestia are cut from the same cloth, with Celestia being more calm and stable, and less naive, only because she's been around for so very much longer. Trixie, then, is a perfect expression of Luna's approach, where perception beats reality and deception beats brute force.

If our normal Twilight and Luna's Trixie ever locked horns, I'm sure Twilight would have every advantage in spell-casting power and skill, but Trixie could win by tricking her into doing something completely ridiculous. Likewise... I doubt that Luna defeated Corona simply by blasting her with a magical super-weapon. That's way too obvious.

Oh, and if you haven't read Night's Favored Child, be sure to check it out! I think the characterization of Empress Nightmare Moon is pretty good. She's not Luna exactly, but she's a NMM who has mellowed a lot with age and experience and become much more Luna-like.

Like Eristotle said, this is a VERY interesting concept. Almost as interesting as a Soviet Superman scenario.

I shall try to read them, but not today. I'm a little sick and I can't concentrate on reading a full story.

Sorry to ask this here, but I asked on the boards and the it kinda got swamped. Anyway are there airships/blimps in the L!verse? :scootangel:

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There's hot-air balloons, but no airships or blimps. Yet...

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i see... yet you say? :trixieshiftright:
The reason I ask was because of that Elk fic, I was thinking of having the mane cast ride an airship/dirigible as opposed to a train. :scootangel:
Also do Thief Takers exist in l!verse?

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A Thief-taker was a private citizen who could be hired to capture criminals or seek out and steal back or negotiate the of stolen property, the hiring was also primarily done by private citizens, but law enforcement coudl work with them or hire them as well, Thief Takers are different form bounty hunters, the most notorious Thief Taker was Jonathan Wild. :scootangel:

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I don't think they would...thief-takers seemed to have primarily existed to shore up the shoddy police at the time, but the Lunaverse's police are anything but shoddy.

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ah well, guess I'll have to save them for Cadenceverse, TY for the response though :twilightsmile:

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... yet? wait does that mean they maybe take something back form M!verse? :pinkiegasp:
or are they just under development?

so wait, because of the change in events, Twilight is a fugitive, AJ is egotistical, and RD is cold and heartless to evrypony but Flutters?

dark...

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RD isn't cold and heartless to everypony but Fluttershy...and I wouldn't call AJ egotistical.

1226520 whatever, and i'm still with twilight though, the odds of having that drastic a change but having the same ponies are low... but hey, that's the multiverse for ya. but LTwi comes off as only wanting an actual friend though... kind of a woobie if you want to get into TvTropes and all.

What? No increased appriciation for the nights beauty amongst the populous? That seems sorta cynical.

Then again, the Lunaverse is sorta cynical.

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