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I'm looking for well thought out opinions here, as I'm legitimately interested. What rights do you think humans deserve if any?

EDIT: In response to the random downvote, I can assure you that this is not a troll post. I just want to know what people think about the subject.

4275678 All right, I'll bite...

In a nutshell:
The right to be as equal and free as possible. (Before you reply, no, as communists we believe modern society only has those in peper, not in reality. In addition, yes, we know about violations of those rights in self-proclaimed "socialist countries" and we're also against that)

4276226 See? I'm fascinated by your opinion. I had no intention of trolling people with "Herpder Stalin killed people!".

Though from the lack of response and the noted downvotes, I imagine that's what people automatically assumed I was going to do.

Personally, I'm of the same opinion, though I have a feeling I'd practice it in a different way. I'd eleborate, but I have little to reply to and I'm quite frankly somewhat disappointed that I was misread.

4275678 Home, food, purpose.
Just that the problem is that some are selling out their rights by numerous badd deeds and ill adviced actions.

Giving people that one fair chance.

So long as the leagal age is 18, there should be a home ready for you at this date. It is up to you to choose if you accept it.
This would be a minimal home with a bed and other nesessities, but nothing more.

If someone isn't capable of caring for him/her self, then someone should be there to guard them against themselves and their inabilities.

Education and healthcare should be provided. you should be free to choose if you accept the later at any given point.

It is the state that should protect your rights as defined beforehand as well.

4276414 Just a guess on my part, but what if it is the Troill that voted you down here?

Considering the group, it could be rightwingers too. If they are permitted to vote?
4276226 I am for these.
Only when all are treated equaly, can we flourish.
Favouritism and discrimination can never build up, only tear down. They come at far too high a price, for no good reason.

The basics of life
The inability to be discriminated against in law and business
And the ability to speak freely
Maybe to own a gun if we are post revolution

4277477 I'm actually a very big supporter of the Second Ammendment in my country (I'm not sure how many of you in the group are from the US). I feel like there's a way that we can make owning weapons work, without excessive manslaughter.

4277752 I am a Canadian, so I don't quite understand the american myth behind the gun but I do know that in a revolutionary fantasy We've all had at least one, c'mon nowthat turning around and saying

That was great guys good work, now can you all just give us your guns please? is not going to hold any water and may see things becoming worse.

4278630 Well, I guess it's legit anyway.

4277477
If you add the right to private property in general, you have the classical liberal Bourgeois human rights canon. :derpytongue2:

I mean, I'm not saying that I disagree per se. It's just not exactly enough.
(For example, let's take "the basics of life". Why should that be the bottom line if more would be possible?)

4278630
Article 23: "Everyone has the right to work."

Muhaha, that's yet another good one! Everyone has the right to be exploited... :rainbowlaugh:

4554253

I am classing the basics according to western standards, So heat electricity shelter food and water as well as some basic internet connection in more rural areas to easily communicate. all this comes from my ideas for an ideal government where a communist system exists to provide the basics of life while small scale entrepreneurial capitalist system covers ones wants and luxuries, so private property was kinda assumed.

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all this comes from my ideas for an ideal government where a communist system exists to provide the basics of life while small scale entrepreneurial capitalist system covers ones wants and luxuries, so private property was kinda assumed.

I'm beginning to think you have fuck-all of an idea of what capitalism and communism even are.

Communism is a society without money, without a state, and without privately owned means of production.

Capitalism is where commodity production sold for profit using tools (means of production) owned privately.

These two are inherently contradictory. Communism and Socialism is not a euphemism for "government programs". Capitalism with the government programs you describe (Social Democracy) is still Capitalism.

How?
The two are merely differing means of the distribution of goods and services and if done right could be complimentary, no matter how much we might try Marxist philosophy failed when the state failed to properly transition to the second stage on multiple occasions, and was dragged down by internal corruption until reform (china) or collapse (USSR) and while the socialist command economy was good for rapid industrialization and modernization, it fails in innovation and technological progression outside of government sponsored fields. while capitalism has issues with corporate greed and corruption, the distortion of the world views of upper management until the only thing that matters is the production of profit with the quote en quote little guy turned into nothing more than a series of numbers. but where the market does succeed is by providing a sandbox for the darwinian evolution of goods and technologies, the constant pressure to thrive allows technologies too crop up and support niches no one ever thought of and the constant evolution of those ideas to rake in the most money constantly pushes our knowledge forward.

so my ideal nation would have a synthesis of the two with the governments omnipresent support of the agricultural and industrial sectors while leaving open the service trade and proffesional sectors and through the unionization of every single one of those sectors the means of production will be acquired by the people
with the democratic governments of the west freed from their plutocratic masters providing the most critical goods and services to western life through government programs and eventually institutional inertia we will see the dissolution of big business by discouragement and suppression of corporations with high taxes and aggressive anti monopoly laws. by providing active medium level (state/province) support of small businesses preferably cooperatives as well as pushes for the localisation of the production of goods the means of production will be placed close to the people

if one is given according to their needs, without worry one will work according to their true ability
for their wants if you disregard everything else I have said this is the core of my philosophy and ideals

4556349 That is an extremely narrow definition of communism.

I like the duck image though.

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