Dis is official:http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/index.html
Forbidden:
BURNER, DRAGON RULER OF SPARKS
ELEMENTAL HERO STRATOS
LIGHTNING, DRAGON RULER OF DRAFTS
REACTAN, DRAGON RULER OF PEBBLES
STREAM, DRAGON RULER OF DROPLETS
NUMBER 16: SHOCK MASTER
CARD DESTRUCTION
GATEWAY OF THE SIX
HEAVY STORM
MONSTER REBORN
POT OF AVARICE
SUPER REJUVENATION
SPELLBOOK OF JUDGMENT
SOLEMN JUDGMENT
ULTIMATE OFFERING
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Limited:
ATLANTEAN DRAGOONS
BROTHERHOOD OF THE FIRE FIST - SPIRIT
DEEP SEA DIVA
GENEX ALLY BIRDMAN
RESCUE RABBIT
THUNDER KING RAI-OH
EVIGISHKI MIND AUGUS
DEWLOREN, TIGER KING OF THE ICE BARRIER
CONSTELLAR PTOLEMY M7
DIMENSIONAL FISSURE
GOLD SARCOPHAGUS
ROYAL TRIBUTE
BOTTOMLESS TRAP HOLE
COMPULSORY EVACUATION DEVICE
ERADICATOR EPIDEMIC VIRUS
MACRO COSMOS
SOUL DRAIN
TORRENTIAL TRIBUTE
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Semi Limited:
MEZUKI
PLAGUESPREADER ZOMBIE
T.G. STRIKER
FIRE FORMATION - TENKI
DIMENSIONAL PRISON
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Unrestricted:
DESTINY HERO - MALICIOUS
THE AGENT OF MYSTERY -EARTH
TSUKUYOMI
A HERO LIVES
BLACK WHIRLWIND
E - EMERGENCY CALL
HIERATIC SEAL OF CONVOCATION
POT OF DUALITY
SCAPEGOAT

This isn't the list we wanted but this is the list we needed.

Ooh, T.G. Striker's semi-limited now? Bitchin'! I might bring back my Tech Genus deck for shits and giggles!

I'm playing traditional for a while, it seems. To hell with that crap....

The list doesn't mess up my herald or drag unity decks so I'm fine. But I can understand everyone's feelings about it. On the other hoof the list is only till the end of the year so it's not so long.

1571869 Traditional has all the banned cards at one meaning every single otk is up for grabs do you really want to deal with that?

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1571930 I hate it because I am a trap whore, but I love it because it balances the game.

1571837

So our first Number is banned (I had no idea Shock Ruler had it in him), and Malicious is unlimited once more. Nice.

1571960
I don't mind, actually. It's not like OTK's can happen every single turn.

Well it will change in December I guess. But either way it means the only deck I will even try to play is my Heroic challenger deck.

I need to play test for Clasp Sword to come in but outside that it seems like a good list. It just got rid of a lot of stable cards.

I do wish Giant Trunade was put at limited since they got rid of Gateway but what are ya gonna do.

1572272 Well Trunade would allow too much abuse with CoH and Fiendish Chain, due to them staying after you or your opponent uses them for a Synchro or XYZ summon.

1572047 That extra Malicious will help my D-Hero Psychics nicely.

1572362 I still never got that. Can't they issue reprints with the power to remove Call at least (since it was around before synchros) when a card leaves?

Hell I'd be interested to see how it would change if they banned Call and replaced it with premature but in semi-limited form. I felt the payment always made up for the fact it was a spell and for guys who run 3 curse of Darkness in their decks I just wanna see them have dead hands expectantly.

1573318 They don't and can't outright change effects, otherwise there is no point to having a forbidden limited list in the first place, it would just ruin any sense of structure in the game if they could change any effect they wanted when they wanted.

Premature is worse than Call, because you don't even have to wait for the monster to die before you can bounce it back to your hand and being a spell you could just activate it again in the same turn, that card at two would give Constellors a far too large of an abuse factor.

1573385

I know, but when you have stuff like Vanguard making rules like "You can still use this card, just not in this certain way" and "You can only use this card until March" the latter actually printed on the card, I'm sort of used to a cardgame being able to change the rules even if it isn't printed on the card at all, so wanting a say "newer version" to me would work.

Like outright Banning Call to me would be better and just having it replaced with a card that only works for one turn or is removed when the monster is removed seem like better options since that's why Lightning Vortex and Brain/mind control even exist in the first place.

1573589 Brain control is banned.
The thing is no one even uses call as it is now, which is why it is at three, as well as mst is at three. One mst and there goes the monster before you can use it.

So it doesn't even need to be banned, because the only card that would make it abusable is banned.

And another reason Trunade is banned is because there are only a FEW useable cards that can actually stop it, where as Heavy had to contend with Starlight Road.

One thing I 'would' have liked banned would be 'Evilswarm Ophion'. Oh well, I'll just abuse Metaion for a while longer then.

1572047 I would have thought Big Eye would have had the first axe, but I hope the banning of the Dragon Rulers changes that a bit.

1575571

If not axed, at least limited. Oh well. I really wanted Evilswarm Ophion gone though... I can only stop it with either Breakthrough skill, Forbidden Chalice or Metaion the Timelord. Even those are temporary fixes.

If you run a deck that needs Special Summoning, then Ophion just forbids it. :(

1578206 Unless you have an Ojama deck like mine.

1578223

True, Ojama's are fun to play with. Another deck that is pretty fun to play with are the Toons. Very old and hard to keep up, though Nostalgia makes it worthwhile. Not only that, but I can't help but hum the theme for 'Toon World' when I play them...

1571867 Make sure you run 3x TG1-EM1. That Trap is nothing short of funny. You can even use it in combination with Blade Blaster! Activate Blaster's effect, Chain to it with TG1-EM1. You get a monster and your opponent gets Blaster... and Blaster decides he doesn't like his new digs and skips town.

Just don't do it the other way around. If you don't control your target when TG1-EM1 resolves, you don't get your opponent's monster.

1578206 Orphion isn't really that hard to kill.just run Gem-Knight Pearl or Number 30 to easily kill it, just be careful with 30.

1587558

Problem is, I run Hieratic Dragons. They specialise in special summoning level 5 and 6. Usually I get around Ophion by using Metaion, then at least summoning one of them so I can have a tribute next round for a normal summon.

1590322 Ah I see, yeah that deck will shut down any deck like that, but otherwise they are actually fairly harmless as long as one can dodge their mini Big Eye.

1590489

For a while, I thought of running 'Cost Down' to lower their levels if that turned out to be the case. Then I just got the idea for Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror. XD

1590605 Cost down, mmm.
You could actually try that with switching out one set of your normal dragons for a level 4 set of normal dragons in your side. Maybe it would actually work.

1590764

It might. I used to just use Forbidden Chalice though. I also came to the conclusion that Forbidden Chalice must be filled with 100% alcohol considering it negates abilities but gives them a slight attack boost. XD

1590855 That won't do anything to it because of Infestation Pandemic.

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Oh yeah, forgot to mention. My deck is also filled with Counter Traps that negate spells and traps. Dark Bribe, Solemn Warning ect. Getting rid of those are rather easy.

1591107 You'd be better off just ruining things that will just straight up kill it before it gets it's effect off or fiendish chain as well as maining three Lance and three Mystical Space, you're going to have to in next format.

1591174

Fiendish Chain sounds like a good idea. :3