An Upcoming Devil May Cry 3 Character and Game Dissection · 1:47pm Feb 13th, 2015
While I continue to type away and re-write multiple chapters of Pony May Cry while still trying to upload a new one, I decided that I should stop bitching about DmC: Devil's Menstruating Cunt and direct my ire towards a game I love instead.
That's right, everyone. I'm going to be tearing Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening a new asshole with my observation skills and obsessive nit-picking, pointing out every single flaw I found with the game, along with personal gripes towards certain mechanics, the plot, and the characters themselves. Looking at you, Vergil!
WHY WOULD YOU FUCKING HOLD A CLAYMORE LIKE FORCE EDGE LIKE A GODDAMNED KATANA!? 
Seriously, Vergil, I love you. Hell, even Fluttershy loves you, but did your brain just stop working the moment you got your hands on daddy's sword? You're a master of Iaido and Battojutsu. You're sword play and mastery of blades literally comes from one of the most disciplined styles known to man, and demons for that matter. HOW DO YOU FUCK UP THAT HARD!? No wonder Dante beat your ass at the Gates of Hell. You were using the sword wrong, you dumbass.
Ranting aside, I honestly think that with the dissection of one of my most beloved games from an unbiased perspective (As unbiased as my brain will physically allow), I will be able to fairly voice both my praises and gripes towards the game. And trust me, there's alot wrong with Devil May Cry 3 that has left me with a rather sticky and foul aftertaste; especially after blowing this game for as long as I have.
Until next time, everyone.
Stay SSStylish
it's gonna be interesting for sure
but don't worry, your wrath about DmC will come back soon to haunt your dreams
But now that you're saying it
It's true he's not holding Force Edge....in a good way
one could say that's because his laptop crashed a few days before the events on Temen-ni-gru, making it impossible for him to download the "How to use a Claymore" guide.
Others could say that's part of his Arrogance, thinking he can actually be the best with any Swords, it gets even better when you're holding Daddy's sword, come on, even your blood is here to show that you're the best with it.
while Dante really is a master with it.
He used Rebellion for his whole life
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That is definitely a considerable option, given Vergil's attitude and all.
The lover pic of Virgil looks cool. The higher one just makes him look stupid. (My ophinion)
DmC: Devil's Menstruating Cunt
jUST HAD TO SAY THIS, now let me finish reading this post to give you a proper answer
I hope the day i get a notification SAYING its you updating PMC, but meh, I'm excited dor the dlc, Vergil's always been my favotire
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Well, duh. He's holding the sword wrong.
2795150 its not just that. I dont know what else. Just got that feeling.
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Vergil just learned that he wasn't holding Force Edge the right way
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2795286 The second pic doesn't work. Also, stop it. It wasn't funny the first time, it's not going to be funny the nth time either.
2795542 thanks for pointing that out.
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it seems the site where i found the picture was lagging so much that it wasn't working, it should be working now
Also, about the "Ride never ends" joke, it's just a running joke we got with Jojo, just for fun nothing more.
sorry if it bother you.
For most of the fight Vergil uses Yamato, Force Edge uses as a boomeran and one combo
PD: sorry for my english
wow, you really don't have a CLUE on how swords are used. The Katana is a good sword but they have a serious flaw, They are INCREDIBLY FRAGILE in comparison to broad swords. Technically his skill with his blade would translate very well to the weapon he's holding. The problem, AND MOST SERIOUS PROBLEM, is that the balance would be completely different and would throw him off. And, even though Dantie uses a Broad Claymore, He TOO would have the same problem.
The ONLY thing you need training for with a sword is constant knowledge of where the edge is. everything else needs to be self taught (such as what type of balance do you want) The pose in your picture is him getting ready for a stab motion, WHICH IS PERFECTLY FINE. However, Vergil using the sword as a boomerang is completely stupid and a waist of a good sword.
also, Sparta's sword is a normal Long sword or Bastard sword, Claymores are FAR longer in length.
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Not necessarily. Dante mastered larger swords and their style, DMC1 is a testament to using Sparda's force edge.
Thematically Vergil failed, because he tried so hard to be like his father that he discarded Yamato as nothing more than a side arm the moment he got force edge. He's using a type of weapon he is HEAVILY inexperienced with, and therefore handicapped himself in that fight by trying to emulate a fighting style he hasn't mastered. Whether the pose is right or not, is certainly the issue. It's the way he used it in the fight. He could never properly use it because Yamato was always used to end Force Edge combos.
If he did this because he knew his limits, or because he just felt a habit, I don't know, but what I do know is the frailty of Katanas doesn't translate into the DMC universe. You're complaining about a sword that was forged in the fires of hell and can cut anything. Your durability knowledge stops right there.
2920357 one more thing to add to that. you clearly don't know your swords as well as you think you do, considering long/bastard swords are thinner in the blade, translating to be lighter. Force Edge is a Claymore, with a broader, heavier blade with a much longer point.
IE, it's a greatsword type, not a straight sword
It's not just edges and how you hold it. It's knowing how much strength you need to put behind it and knowing how dexterous you need to be to handle it. Vergil fucked up cause he's used to a combat style that utilizes single edge, lightweight, precise cut blades, not double edged, heavy set, power required blades.
2920502 Yah, well, most mystical swords are durable as HELL, but, as many people point out, Vergil's main weapon was the Yamato and Sparta's blade was the side arm. Go back to that fight and you'll see that Vergil will use his sword FAR more often. The reason Vergil lost was mainly because Dante GREW as a warrior while Vergil stayed stagnant in his ways. Dante has the ability to master not one, not TWO, but 4 main weapons. Let's not forget the 4 different styles he has either. In terms of Versatility and raw determination, Dante had his bro beat. The sword isn't really a problem as it seems that while Vergil prefers the light blade it doesn't mean he was using a blade he had no training in. I'm pretty sure in his quest for power he had to master many different blades Including Broad swords especially if he was after the ultimate sword. I mean, He knows how to fight hand to hand after all with Beowulf of all things, is it that far out there that he knows how to use a straight sword after all?
2920516 The fact that he can use hand to hand is part of his disciplined style, Iaijiusu, an offshoot of Battojutsu, which is about controlled and precise strikes.
While you are right that Dante grew as a warrior during the incident, he wasn't a master of his weapons. He has been a Jack of all trades, master of none (save for handling greatswords) type of fighter, throwing in on the fly techniques and improvised moves based on what he's using, what his foes are, and what his environment is like. He was more of a master of turning situations in his favor.
Also, he was after his fathers sword out of trying to gain his father's POWER that resided in it, not to weild it as an actual weapon. Recall that Arkham gained that power, but NEVER used the blade?
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No. No he didn't. He used Yamato far less other than simply reverting to his spammy dimension slash. Force Edge took priority. I've played DMC3 countless times to know this. He uses Yamato in CONJUNCTION with Force Edge. It's a compliment to his Force Edge combos. Meaning he'll use Yamato still, but only as finishers while Force Edge takes up the bulk. The same way Beowulf took priority in the second fight. Or didn't you pay attention? Yes, Dante grew as a warrior, but that shounen hero bullshit doesn't take you far when you're fighting someone far more experienced in one particular style than you. Vergil simply opted for a sword type and style that he had very little mastery of. I know it's hard for you to process, but Vergil fucked up royally. Because he tried so hard to be like his father, he failed. Dante grew as both a demon and as a human while Vergil only sought power through his father's weapon that he didn't know how to use properly. End of discussion. The fucker was so deluded that he even thought he could take on the Demon Emperor Mundus after his fall to Hell.
No he didn't. Read the prequel manga to DMC3. Your assumption is once again unfounded. All the way from his youth, he focused on mastering Yamato. It wasn't until DMC3 happened that he obtained Beowulf. Also Beowulf was from a weaker demon he slaughtered instantly, it wouldn't surprise me he had mastery over it. Sparda is an S Ranked Demon whose sword requires more than just discipline to utilize properly.
2920511 Two things, one, a Great Sword is something like the Zweihander which is a MUCH larger and heaver blade. not only is it much shorter it's decently would be lighter. hell, Dante's sword is closer to Great Sword statis and it's bigger to Sparta's blade (not to mention thicker) so don't try to feed me that rubish. Also, after closer inspection, It's a long Broad sword which is thick but not anywhere close to the size of a Zweihander. they can be used with one hand quit well.
Secondly, the cutscene Right Before the fight Dante and Vergil switch swords for a short while and it's obvious, They Both know how to use each other's weapon efficiently so it's not that far out that Vergil Would Know how to wield Sparta's Sword! The fact Vergil lost had NOTHING to do with the weapon, It came to the fact Vergil TOOK THE LOST TO SAVE HIS BROTHER! Seriously, Look at what Vergil does AND SAYS Right before the final blow. Seriously, there's more to the fight there then what weapons they use.
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No. Wrong. Beyond wrong. Vergil only submitted to his fate AFTER he lost. He didn't take the fall for shit. Those two were out to kill each other at the very end. It simply came down to who was better. Dante bested Vergil in a sword style he clearly had more mastery over. Vergil failed and because so, submitted to his end and allowed Dante to escape AFTER BEING DEFEATED. Before that? He was going to fucking kill Dante. There was a no holds bar there.
Yes, you're right that there's more to the fight than the weapons they use. It's their ideals. Vergil was an arrogant ass to the end, and because so, his performance suffered. HEAVILY.
2920539 You're making assumptions that there AREN'T smaller scale great swords. Zweihanders, or those like Dante's Rebellion, are on the larger and heavier scale, but those aren't the only types. Once again, CLAYMORES (like Force Edge). Also, if you honestly think that you'd be able to pick up and use Force Edge with one hand, I have some bad news for you. The size of the weapon and the suggested weight, comparing it to Dante and Vergil's size would probably put it near impossible (or at least incredibly difficult) to actually pick up and use with one hand unless you're willing to lift a good 30 or 40 lbs with one hand. Granted, it IS on the smaller side, but it's still much larger than any straight sword/ broad sword out there.
Also, do you not know how DMC3 works? Vergil used Force edge IN CONJUNCTION with Yamato, with FE being the bulk of combos (normal combos, stinger, Round Trip, helm breaker), where Yamato was more of an assist (finishers and Judgement Cut). Hell, it's pretty much spelled out, black and white, in the Special edition when you get to play as Vergil.
And all Vergil said to Dante at the end of the fight is that the amulet and the sword belongs to a Son of Sparda, that he has no place in the human world, Dante should piss off, and that he was going to hell where he believes he belongs. Dante was the only one that tried to save HIM, and Vergil cut his hand. Don't try to feed me tripe in saying Vergil was saving Dante, cause he wasn't.
2858383 perhaps, look a little closer to to battle. Vergil is using Force Edge for the bulk of any combos, with Yamato acting as a finisher move or a Judgement Cut strike.
2920556 You really need to take a step back and look at that scene again because there's SO much more being telegraphed there. I mean, Vergil HESITATES before the final blow is struck and there's the fact that The weapon he was so dead set on getting and he DROPS it and leaves it to Dante. That REALLY doesn't make sense there if we follow your logic.
I SERIOUSLY doubt it's because of the weapon Vergil lost. I mean, Dante can use Yomato just as easily as Vergil can use it and vice versa with Rebellion, which shows that they MUST have similar training. Those weapons where made with both in mind so there's more to it then just "FORCE EDGE IS A DIFFERENT SWORD THAT'S WHY VERGIL LOST" argument here.
2920573 You're right. It doesn't make sense. You wanna know why? HE DOESN'T HESITATE! They were both going in for the killing blow. You wanna know why Vergil lost? He handled his CLAYMORE like a KATANA, Dante had more reach, and Dante knew how to handle Rebellion well. He stuck with what he knew from the start, while Vergil tried in vain to emulate Sparda in the most superficial way. Hell, notice the arcs of the blades and where they are being aimed.
Also, DMC4 demonstrates that while he CAN use Yamato well, it's most certainly not with the same level of skill or discipline Vergil can. Dante's slower, a lot more reactionary, and his cuts are a lot less clean. Hell, Dimension Slash is a much lesser version of Vergil's Judgement Cut, opting for multiple strikes in the single attack rather than a single clean cut. That, and Vergil can whip out 3 Judgement cuts in a row via gameplay, and dozens more in boss battles.
Dante and Vergil are VERY different fighters. You're right it isn't just about the swords, but you are very wrong that it still doesn't connect back to them.
There most certainly is a lot more being telegraphed here, but I don't think you're seeing any of it.
Also, Force Edge wasn't made for EITHER of them. Sparda sealed it away, so no one could get to it without getting into a lot of bullshit. It was Sparda's blade, not Vergil or Dante's. Vergil just attempted to claim it as a birthright.
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Didn't I just tell you to read the prequel? Those two had entirely different upbringings after their mother's death. Both were rather harsh conditions, but Vergil focused solely on becoming a stronger demon and mastering Yamato, as it was his only means to obtaining his father's power.
2920573 Now, it's time to put an end to this discussion. BEHOLD!
Go to 5:27.
Vergil went for a dual hand diagonal slash from the shoulder down on Dante. IE, a type of strike typical for Katanas. Dante went for a straight horizontal slash, because he had the reach and power, and knew it would hit with the size and weight difference. Vergil lost because the blade was heavier, bulkier, and harder to handle than Yamato. IF he knew how to use a Claymore like Force Edge, he would have at least went for a similar strike that Dante went for. One last thing, if Vergil would have used Yamato, and did the same type of strike (diagonal from the shoulder), he would have moved faster, and would have killed Dante. Vergil's own arrogence and his lack of experience (AND HIS FAILED EMULATION OF HIS FATHER) with the blade fucked him over.